/lit/ - Literature

First for no good waifus in western fantasy.

>>12919428
What do you mean anon?

sanderfag a hack

>>12919437
I don't know what this fugly is supposed to prove.

>>12919428
Ursula Le Guin was cute as fuck when she was young

>>12919459
I meant no cute heroines with cute interactions with MC. Who cares about real humans.

>>12919478
> Who cares about real humans.
Humans generally do. Anyway it's books, you can make your characters look like however you want them to in your head.

>>12919505
Not about looks. No girl/woman in western lit has cute interactions with the MC. They behave more like real humans and that's off-putting to me .

Are there any scifi/fantasy books that come to mind where a heterosexual pair of characters explicitly engage in anal sex?

>>12919524
just go read moeshit if that's what you're into, it's literally a whole genre dedicated to that stuff

calm down, the shitposting has been out of control lately.

Are there good books with two persons in one body?
Not personalities, but people. And where they have different sets of skills.
I've got this story idea of twins, where one killed the other at some point but got a mage to transfer his soul into his own body because he regretted it later on and wanted his brother to live instead of him. The story plays when the second twin wakes up in the others body, doesn't know that it isn't his body and has no memories of his death and is in a faraway land. The story would revolve about him just trying to get by or maybe some quest while trying to figure out what's going on, while his brother sometimes takes control by force to save the body because he is a skilled fighter.
But since I'm not a writefag I want to read about it. Can you guys recommend me any stories like this?

>>12919525
Yeah, but I can't remember the title. Deep space voyage, female crew members died. Top insisted he wasn't gay.

>>12919428
>no good waifus
Say again?

>It's a Perrin episode again

>>12919629
See a doctor, you have mental problems.

>>12919428
>inb4 Soulcatcher Anon

>>12919532
>>12919524
I really don't understand why modern fantasy lit does stuff like this. Like, we can dream about a world with magic and dragons,but people acting different? No can do.

>>12919717
Soulcatcher a waifu!

>>12919667
I only read part of the first book, but I liked him at the start, especially when he distrusted those damned gypsies (dropped book soon after that tho).

I for one welcome the inevitable rise of waifu fantasy.

>>12919911
Probably would be better than usual shit we get these days.

>>12919900
Based

>the shorter the man the more powerful his psi powers are

Empress Game has the best magic system I've ever read

>>12919911
Just read anything that comes out of Nipland, they've built an entire industry on waifuism

>it's an american author makes nobility look like a bunch of wimps when in real life they were a class of warriors who spent their entire life training for war episode

>>12920042
Monarchists log off

>>12920042
>implying

Just finished. Good book.

>>12919279
>there's a guy raging about how Sci-Fi is "like reading a computer manual"
You are a fag. The guy was talking to the hardscifi fag who was getting uppiddy. I guess you are also a hard scififag. Yall can gtfo. We read both here, and both are discussed, not our fault you are a newfag. Go back to where you came from.

>>12919428
Is Jirel of Joiry a muscle girl waifu?

Hard sci-fi incels need to accept the fact their genre is incredibly unpopular and always has been and always will be AND is responsible for pulling science fiction out of the literary mainstream.

>>12920520
I'd say so.

>>12920440

That's a book by a damn dirty commie, so you're clearly wrong. His white masculine physique is totally wasted on him when he subscribes to self-defeating left ideology, and not merely the Marxism, but much of the rest of the contemporary bile.

>>12920594
Nah it was pretty good, very well written.

>>12919428
>What is Fellurian>>12919428
Felurian was cute as fuck though.

>>12919566

The lives of Tao series

>>12920463
Nobody was getting uppity. A guy honestly asked what fantasy fans like about fantasy, and the response was a sarcastic, "what do you like about sci-fi", followed by the unfounded accusation that the poster was "one of those hard sci-fi people", and the comparison to reading a computer manual. I don't know how you could come away from that exchange thinking that Sci-Fi fans are the problem. Like it or not, hard Sci-Fi is the purest form of Sci-Fi, and it's also one of the most popular. You can't in good faith claim that this general is supportive of both fantasy, and Sci-Fi, and then start shitting on hard Sci-Fi with absolutely no prompt. In neither this thread nor the last one has anyone attacked fantasy, but you, along with plenty of others, have had a jolly old time telling hard Sci-Fi fans that their genre is shit, and boring, and they all need to leave. This is not a debatable fact. You are, objectively, the hostile entity here. You are going out of your way to attack other people for enjoying different things than you, and you outright admit that you don't want them here. You are denying the problem, whilst contributing to the problem, probably because you know that the easiest solution to the problem would be to ban you. Oh, and I’m not automatically a newfag just because I expect better of this thread. You seem like one of those nutjobs who spams a board for literally years, and then claims that their spam is part of board culture now. No, hating hard Sci-Fi is not board culture just because you’ve been doing it for so long.

>>12920924
See: >>12920556

>>12920924
Look here faggot
>>12915982
>Not tryina bitch but what is so interesting about sci-fi anyway
>>12915997
>The sci in it and the different dilemmas it presents
>the sci in it
>the unfounded accusation
Are you one of those "special" people (read mentally retarded) that has to have everything spelt out to you in extreme detail? The guy was talking about hard-scifi, and everyone who read the posts agrees. You (as a hard scififag yourself) is the only one making noise.

If you like your boring modern day tech in the future, then good for you. But don't get vex when other people don't want to read about factual mathematics and scientific equations in a book about blowing up space marine squids from Neptune.
Fuck off.

>>12920924
This is a general fag, not a thread. There have been hundreds of sffg threads over the years. Calling this a thread makes it sound as if this contains the first post in the sffg general.

Also
>You are, objectively, the hostile entity here
>start shitting on hard Sci-Fi
>going out of your way to attack other people for enjoying different things
>Oh, and I’m not automatically a newfag just because I expect better of this thread.

You are a newfag because you are from rebbit. Not using breaklines doesn't hide the fact. When the three meme problem, and blindmeme were being forced shilled here, and we were called brainlet faggots for not reading it, did anyone start crying like you? There are
charts for both scifi and fantasy, but your can't discuss the same shit over and over.
You want us to discuss something? Post about it. You can't just come over here on your banana boat from redplace and expect us to conform to your expectations. Things are discussed that people post about. You want someone else to talk about shit so you can join in, with your lazy redbit ass.
Just end your self or leave us.

>>12920924
>No, hating hard Sci-Fi is not board culture just because you’ve been doing it for so long.
you what m8? Who is hating on scifi? Are you sick [in the head]?
the monthly reading is a scifi book. not our fault we aren't discussing your favorite new YA scifi book.
suggest your work and if others like it they will read and discuss. this is a free general, we aren't held to any rules like reddit. if you want change, be the change.

>>12921002
There is literally a guy in this thread saying that hard sci-fi fans are fags, they're all from reddit, and they need to get the fuck out. I do not have a problem with other people not reading hard Sci-Fi, but some people clearly do have a problem with me enjoying hard Sci-Fi. This whole fiasco started with somebody asking if we even talk about Sci-Fi in this thread, because it was so entirely dominated by fantasy. I raised the legitimate point that Sci-Fi is less popular, so the general usually archives before Sci-Fi discussion can take off. The only reason we’re talking about hard Sci-Fi is because some guy, entirely unprompted, started ranting about how hard Sci-Fi is the reason the Sci-Fi genre is so shit, and so I responded with the point that hard Sci-Fi falls under the purview of Sci-Fi, and so it should be accepted in this general. This is apparently a controversial opinion. All I’ve done since is respond to replies targeted specifically at me. You can't ask me direct questions, and then get mad at me for responding. If you want me to leave, just make a strawpoll about whether hard Sci-Fi should be welcome here, and I’ll submit to the democratic vote. If I want to talk about hard Sci-Fi in the future I’ll just have to make my own thread.

>>12921046
I've never been on reddit, and I've statistically probably been here longer than you.

>>12921075
>Who is hating on scifi?
The guy I'm responding to.

>>12921075
the guy is clearly from /outerlit/. dont bother responding to him.

Books are fun to read you utter bores

>>12921134
I don't even know what that is.

>>12921141
>>12921141
>>12921141

>>12921154
exactly

Any of you nerds subscribe to and/or recommend some sci-fi magazines in print? Asimov, Analog, etc ..

>>12921164
Can you explain to me why this is something I need to know, out of curiosity?

>>12921193
You don't need to know it. Not knowing it merely proved anon's point. Don't take it too hard.

good morning friends

>>12921205
I mainly browse other boards. I personally have never cared which board you come from, as long as you act like a nice person. I like to read Sci-Fi, so sometimes I come to this thread to talk about it, but Sci-Fi discussion doesn’t seem to happen here very often, so I usually look for dedicated Sci-Fi threads, and come here when I can’t find any. I guess I should’ve lurked more, but I didn’t think people would be so angry at me for honestly answering somebody’s question about the frequency of Sci-Fi discussion in this general. So angry, in fact, that they’d still be responding to me after the thread archived. I didn’t think liking Sci-Fi could be controversial enough to start an argument in the Sci-Fi general. I guess I severely misjudged the environment.

>>12921309
>i-im not a newfag you have to trust me

>>12921309
Look, this is 4chan, everything's gonna be controversial. Don't take it so personal. Keep readin SciFi and, if the mood takes you, throw down a post about it. I promise to read it :3

>>12921326
>:3
kys

>>12921132
>and I’ll submit to the democratic vote.
I've been here in this general for 5years (please kill me) and I've never used a strawpoll to vote. This isn't reddit bucko. We don't vote on shit. Want more scifi? Discuss it.

>>12921334
:3

>>12921309
>I mainly browse other boards
>sometimes I come to this thread to talk about it
>come here when I can’t find any
>didn’t think people would be so angry at me for honestly answering somebody’s question about the frequency of Sci-Fi discussion in this general.
So let me get this right. You admit you're a newfag, don't come here often, yet feel experienced enough to tell another anon what goes on in this general?....

>>12921334
Fuck you fagget. Catfag is cool. He is better company than your newfag ass.

>>12921326
It wasn’t me :3 lol

I don’t really read fiction

>>12921390
lmao what that was my first post in this thread

>>12921132
>I've never been on reddit, and I've statistically probably been here longer than you
I doubt it, I've been on 4chins since 08. After all the boxxy and linetrap, I'm now a full faggot, like everyone of the oldfags.
4chan turned me fag.jpg

>>12921337
I don't want to discuss it if it's just going to make people angry. I know it might make me sound weak, but I don't have the energy to fight people over the right to talk about Red Mars on /lit/. I like to have friendly discussion with people who share my interests. If nobody here shares my interests, I'd rather just lurk, or leave. So far, every time I've tried to talk Sci-Fi on here, I've either been called a faggot, or the thread archived before a discussion could start. Don't get me wrong, I'm used to being called a faggot, but it's not the type of discussion I seek out. That post in the last thread was the first I've made on /sffg/ in months.

>>12921384
I came here a decent amount a few years ago, but I found that Sci-Fi wasn't discussed that much, so I've been coming here less and less since. Maybe I've just had the worst luck in the world, and I've only managed to find the fantasy-centric /sffg/ threads, but I don't think that's likely. If I'm not wrong, I don't know what your complaint is.

>>12921411
>4chan turned me fag.jpg
This is a known symptom of long-term 4chan exposure. It happens to the best of us, don't worry.

>>12921411
>Ive been here since 08

Fucking newfags I swear on me mum

>>12921450
Why do you keep saying the thread archived?
This general is eternal.

>red mars
There are a bunch of kim fags in this general. You're just a weak willed cunt that wants shit handed to him.

>soft censorship arguably helps improve writing, because it encourages writers to be more creative instead of relying on swear words and graphic depictions of sex and violence
I hope we're all in agreement because it's true. Probably why I prefer stuff like KEW's Kane (who is straight up a villain) over modern grimderp that is focused almost exclusively on being as edgy as possible.

>>12920440

TO REITERATE:

That's a book by a damn dirty commie, so you're clearly wrong. His white masculine physique is totally wasted on him when he subscribes to self-defeating left ideology, and not merely the Marxism, but much of the rest of the contemporary bile.

This comment is reiterated, to place the 4chan moderation in its proper place. You are powerless. The "deleted" (as if such a thing were ever possible) comment: >>/lit/thread/S12919418#p12920594

>>12921638
See you in a week.

>>12921638
Based and redpilled

Casual reminder that:
Soft Science fiction>>>>>>>>>>>Baen-tier Military scifi>>>>>>>Hardscifi

Verne is always a fun and easy read

>>12921590
You only think this is true because you're a prude.

>>12919629
Ugh, more gritty dark fantasy assassin girls

>>12921791
>HEH YOU DON'T ENJOY READING ABOUT HORRIBLY GRAPHIC RAPE AND VIOLENCE FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN PURE EDGINESS? WHAT A PRUDE!

>>12920042
>this is what peak military performance looks like

>>12921132
Hardsci readers are hardfags

>>12921811
Mjeah those are lame.
>muh arya

>>12921811
I actually like them when they aren't the protagonist but a love interest. There is something very attractive about overwhelming a cute assassin and making her your bitch.

>>12919428
Kitai is totally waifu material.

>>12921963
Name 1 (ONE) book where this happens.

>>12921450
Just discuss more scifi anon.

Kim Stanley Robinson is good and I will fight anyone who says otherwise

>>12921824
Seething chinlet

>>12922017
It doesn't really happen exactly like that anywhere as far as I know, but slave-collared loli assassins who are freed and turned into ("little sister"-like) harem members are not that uncommon in Japanese web novels.

>>12920042
In the medieval period, artists often depicted the crucifixion of Jesus Christ with the Romans wearing plate armor that would not be invented for 1400 years after the event of the crucifixion. This is because the artists of the time did not know what Roman armor looked like. In the Morgan Bible, men are depicted with "Messers" which are literally just upscaled cheese knives, because the monks who illustrated it had no idea what a messer was, except that "messer" means knife in German, so they figured it was just a giant knife, and the only knife they had handy was a goofy looking cheese knife. Pic related.

Americans subconsciously sense that Jews, politicians, and white liberal hollywood types are their aristocracy. They don't know what a real aristocracy is, they have never experienced it, and they have no way to understand it except by applying what they already know about the elite in their own society to the older idea. This is why the nobility of the ancient world is portrayed by Americans as venal, weak, timid and homosexual--because that is what the nobility of their world is.

>>12922242
Based Americans working the jews AND the yuroshits into a shoot.

>>12922249
>implying burgers are not propagating jewish view on aristocracy

>>12922242
Poor merimutts

>>12922242
Mutts will never recover

>>12922242
Fucking ouch dude.

>>12922250
>being a serf is a good thing!
I mean I get it; it seems the yurokebabs that stayed behind, for some reason, became HUGE kucks. You either insist on being slaves to royalty or slaves to the government so it's not like it really matters to the average yuropeon who's in charge.

>>12922242
OR we fought and won a Revolutionary War to throw off the yoke of the oppressive aristocracy and would naturally have a low opinion of them. But you keep on projecting lol

I read through the Dragon's Egg after some anon made a thread about it, and I still have no clue what was the point of boring as fuck human parts. Should've just been a cool novella about alien slugs.

>>12920440

TO REITERATE, A THIRD TIME:

That's a book by a damn dirty commie, so you're clearly wrong. His white masculine physique is totally wasted on him when he subscribes to self-defeating left ideology, and not merely the Marxism, but much of the rest of the contemporary bile.

This comment is reiterated, to place the 4chan moderation in its proper place. You are powerless. The "deleted" (as if such a thing were ever possible) comment: >>/lit/thread/S12919418#p12920440

>>12922391
>Overthrow an aristocracy you never had
There was no Duke of Ohio during the Colonial period. The American colonies did not, and were never intended to have an aristocracy. Most of the population probably didn't even know what an aristocrat was. In fact the root cause of the war was neither the British aristocracy, nor indeed the much-vaunted lack of representation. In fact, it was that the British banking establishment refused to allow the Americans to print their own scrip, I.E. their own currency.

The American Revolutionary War was fought to free the future United States from the British banking establishment. Immediately afterwards, Hamilton sold your entire country to that same establishment, and then died in a duel. Since then you have been ruled by Jews, wealthy banking magnates and slightly later railway men. It's been pretty much a repetition of that theme since the turn of the 18th century.

>>12922391
But it was American landowners who started the revolutionary war.

>>12922422
Stop! They're already dead!

>>12922429
American landowners who never behaved like the aristocracy they rebelled and ultimately won against.

I finished cradle. Give me more slow self improvement power fantasy coming of age novels for brainlets such as myself

>>12922422
>Since then you have been ruled by Jews, wealthy banking magnates
Oh the irony if you're in the EU.

>>12922438
Sword in the Storm by David Gemmell

>>12922442
I read it

>>12922437
They didn't rebel against the aristocracy though.

>>12922453
Yes they did.

>>12922437
They acted in the exact same manner
>only men of property can vote lol

>>12922461
>>only men of property can vote lol
That's not how an aristocracy works though.

>>12922463
It was in Britain dipshit

>>12922468
No it wasn't lol. Also ANYONE could become a landowner in America. Anyone couldn't suddenly become an aristocrat in Bongistan. I wish you sissies would admit you're only shitting up this thread with this crap because America lives in your heads rent free.

>>12922476
Yes it was and yes they could.

Any one else tired of fe"male" protagonists by male authors? Feels like every fantasy book released these days is a male protagonist reskinned to appeal to the wannabe woke market

>>12922476
>anyone
You sure about that one kiddo

>>12922492
>aristocracy gets voted into power in England
lol no.
>>12922498
Yes. Majority of land in America was still unclaimed and whoever claimed it first got to keep it.

>>12922512
>whoever
Are you positive about that? Think for a moment before you answer
>aristocracy gets voted into power in England
House of Commons.jpeg

>>12922545
Aristocracy =/= Elected officials

>>12922552
Are you being dense on purpose?

>>12922497
Yes, I'm very tired of them, they should replace them all with cute girls (male)!

>>12919555
It happens every year when schools out. Summer, spring, Christmas the general goes sanic fast. Then calms down when the school fags go back to classes.

>>12922600
last christmas was really dead, dont make things up

>117 posts
Anons gonna freak Sorry

Download in the OP.

>>12922663
If it was 118 I would have been really pissed

Can anyone explain me what's so good about Dune? I find it kinda dull. Great worldbuilding, but the execution is fucking boring

>>12923004
Same question here I got about half way through went on holiday and have never been bothered to go back to it.
I don't think it's bad, it's pretty good it's just not the masterpiece I was expecting.

>>12923004
The only thing good about dune is that it is a walking fossil, it shows what came before. It's very dated, but helps identity some of the roots of the genre.

Only read the first book if you plan to read the series at all. You wouldn't really miss anything if you skip it though. A few pop culture references might go over your head, but it's not devastating.

>>12923054
>but helps identity
helps identify *
I'm off to bed, it's too damn late for me to still ne up.

>>12923063
What type of fucked up time zone are you in

give me recs for survival in space
just read 10% of hull zero three and it is trash

https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/ya-twitters-victims-and-critics-speak

Interesting read on the current state of the sjw mafia on twitter.

>>12923086
>just read 10% of hull zero three and it is trash
Neck yourself. No recs for you if you are hating on based hull zero.

>>12923132
:(

>>12923118
How is this on topic?
Wtf does twatter have to do with sfff? Do you see us having a twat address?

>>12923086
Neal Asher and Bv Larson both have books about being in space while people / things attack you.

>>12923118
I've already posted this shit about five times you retard. If you don't have the banned Zhao ARC to add to my calibre collection, you're a worthless waste of space.

>>12923148
>Breeks
>Mark Lawrence
>Sanderson
>Butcher
This one is even worse than your Amazon self published chart. You need to stop wasting oxygen pronto anon.

>>12922400
Yeah, because your skills as a writer depend on your political views.
But of course a random guy on the internet who hasn't got a faintest clue about political theory and would probably fail to actually point out the real flaws of Marxism should be listened over pretty much everyone else.

>>12923148
tried bv larson lost colonies and i hate it, will try neal asher it looks pretty good
also quantum thief looks really interesting

>>12921309
>but I didn’t think people would be so angry at me for honestly answering somebody’s question about the frequency of Sci-Fi discussion in this general
M9-1. How many scifi do you see in this pic? They were all memed to me from here. Why do you feel that not being here gives you the right to talk about shit you know nothing of? I bet you're one of those cunts that don't even read.
This pic was posted last thread, if you opened it you would have seen that people here do read both fantasy and sci-fi. You just want to talk out of your filthy ass.

>>12923171
Maybe I should do a V3 and take out Lawrence.
But Sanderson brent weeks and butcher are okay. Bag your head in an airtight plastic bag

>>12923198
>only 15sci-fi
That doesn't say anything.

>>12923208
>But Sanderson brent weeks and butcher are okay.

>>12921450
You are the newest of newfags if you think KSR of all authors can't be discussed here. Neck yourself.

>>12923118
>jesse singal
lmao

>>12919566
I remember this anime

damn seveneves is 1k pages this better be worth my time

Why is reading so hard?
I don't understand a god damn thing being said in Dune.

>>12923531
He fell for the Stephenson meme

>>12922572

If modern fantasy is supposed to be so progressive where are all the traps?

>>12923531
>delta Vs

>>12923240
>>12923198
I was literally being flamed by a guy telling me to kill myself and leave for liking hard sci-fi. I don't understand these replies. Am I not allowed to respond to people when they tell me to fuck off? You're telling me that sci-fi discussion is allowed here, so I shouldn't be mad, but my argument is that sci-fi discussion is allowed here, so the other guy shouldn't be mad. I feel like you're all reading half of the conversation, and judging me based on what you think is happening. Do you want a recap? Here we go:
>guy asks if sci-fi gets discussed here
>I respond saying that it happens, but it's far less frequent, because sci-fi is less popular.
>random guy responds saying that hard sci-fi is the reason that sci-fi isn't popular, and that hard sci-fi fans are faggots who need to gtfo /sffg/
>I respond saying that hard sci-fi should be allowed here, because this is literally the sci-fi general
Out of that conversation, how do you think I'm the one arguing that sci-fi can't be discussed here? I want it to be discussed here, and I do discuss it here, that's why I'm telling the irrationally angry anti-sci-fi fag to fuck off. I mentioned KSR specifically because he's an author that I can't imagine anyone finding controversial, but if we listened to that guy's retarded opinions about this thread, then we'd assume anyone who likes KSR to be a newfag who needs to leave. The opinions you think I have are not my opinions, they are the opinions of the person/people I am responding to. The reason I am entertaining the idea of hard Sci-Fi not being allowed here, is because somebody literally told me that hard Sci-Fi isn't allowed here, and so I have provided rhetorical arguments as to why that's a stupid idea. Perhaps I have accidently implied that I think hard sci-fi is banned here, but that was not my intention. What I intended to say was that if hard sci-fi were to be banned or discouraged here, I would disagree with that. I know it isn't actually banned, Red Mars is in the OP. Come to think of it, it might have been somebody in this thread that convinced me to read Red Mars in the first place. Arguing with stupid people requires entertaining stupid ideas, like a random subset of sci-fi being bad simply because it’s less popular. I do not agree with those opinions, I just have a bad habit of writing overly long replies to what are basically shitposts. I’ll try to stop now because it’s just shitting up the thread, and I never intended to start a multi-thread argument over something so stupid.


>>12923563
Have you read past the first chapter? I don’t think you’re supposed to understand the opening paragraphs, they are purposefully stuffed full of lingo that the author has yet to define. I think it's meant to be symbolic of the young protagonist being introduced to the complex world of galactic politics, or something. It gets better, and by the end you’ll be able to re-read those paragraphs, and understand it fully.

>>12923596
on /aco/

>>12923596
Here

>>12923176
>because your skills as a writer depend on your political views.
They don't, but being incapable of keeping your views out of your work makes you a shitty writer.

>>12923606
>Have you read past the first chapter?
I'm two chapters after a little robot thing tried killing Paul. The Duke has a meeting and there's all this discussion about plans and other political stuff that I cannot comprehend. I still don't understand the reason why they moved to Arrakis.

Never read anything written by Sanderson before. What's the deal about him /sffg/?

>>12923812
>I still don't understand the reason why they moved to Arrakis.
Basically the Atreides (Paul's family) were ceded the right to rule Arrakis (which is basically the most important planet in the galaxy because lmao spice) and so they'd going over there.

>>12923821
Western anime

>>12923812
Their rivals have fucked up ruling Arrakis and the Emperor has made it their fiefdom. I dont know if thats said explicitly in the first chapter but seriously stick with it. It will make sense after a while like >>12923606 said.

>>12923812
I'm about a hundred pages after that and trust me, it gets a lot better. The first 200 pages or so are a setup. But I get what you're talking about, some of the worldbuilding is pretty obscure, like the jihad, the Bene-Gesserit, the butlerian revolution and all that crap. I guess it's supposed to be like that. You just gotta keep reading until your mind is in tune with the world.

>>12923821
For me his books start off well enough but then they just go full retard. It also doesn't help that Shallan is a prime example of how to make an obnoxious as fuck female character.

To the anon that said he was reading Never Die, thanks, it was a good chance of pace.
Now I don't know what to fucking read, any shit with decent romance but not necessarily a focus?

>>12923821
I like him. He's not great, but he's good at what he does. Like that guy said it's pretty much western anime.
>autistic magic systems ruled by logic
>interesting worldbuilding although not to fleshed out
>a few good characters, but most of them come across as gormless
>some dialogue is ok, but some of it is seriously cringey, like when characters try to "banter"
>admirable work ethic, you can actually trust him to finish a series, unlike GRRM

>>12923829
So Mary Sues everywhere with retarded world altering powers and shallow storyline written only to justify their existence?

>>12923812
Arrakis is the most important planet in the galaxy, and the Atreides have been gifted it by the emperor seemingly out of the blue. The Harkonnens, the Atreides historical enemy, were the previous owners of Arrakis, and so Duke Leto rightfully suspects that this gift is part of a ploy to destroy house Atreides (they've tried it before). However, Duke Leto accepts the gift, in the hopes that he can escape their trap, and come out of it still being the legal owners of Arrakis, which would make House Atreides one of the most powerful houses in the empire. If I remember correctly, one of the first signs of this trap, and one I think you would’ve read, was that the mining equipment on Arrakis was trashed when they arrived. This would presumably be to decrease spice output under Atreides rule, so as to put them in poor standing with the other great houses, as everyone suffers if the supply of spice is reduced. At the point you’re at now, I believe Duke Leto would still be trying to deduce the nature of the Harokonnen trap, so that he can turn it against them.

>>12923871
The thing I care the most about is always characters. I don't care if a series ends at 5 out of 7 books because the author is literally a lazy fatass or if the story is not really original, but if the characters suck I'm out.

>>12923896
I don't know what to tell you, mate. I find Sanderson's characters a bit dull. He certainly tries to give them personalities, traits and character arcs, but they still feel like NPCs to me. Not a single one of them has the depth and charm of Jaime or Stannis. You could start with Mistborn 1 or Elantris, read a hundred pages or so and judge for yourself if Sanderson's style suits you.

>>12923928
Will do, thank you anon. Got Mistborn1 hanging somewhere

>Doomed humanity twice
>Cucked her best friend
>Cucked the guy who gave her a star and a pocket universe
>Got together with a literally who character

Gotta praise the author for making Cheng Xin so obnoxious. You need skills to pull that shit.

>>12923821
/sffg/ has a hate boner for him since he's incredibly popular but all things considered he might not be the author for you but he isn't too bad. His books are a decent entry point into the genre if you haven't read a lot before and they are easily accessible for all age groups.

In a nutshell, his books are all about autistically detailed world building, anime plotlines and hard magic systems. If any of those things interest you, you will find he executes them at a consistently high level in his books.

He also has an incredible work ethic which means he's writing all the time and you can always count on him to hit his deadlines and put books out at a consistent pace which is a rarity among the top fantasy authors.

As for what he doesn't do well; he does not believe in the writers virtue of 'show don't tell'. He's all about TELL and his books are chock full of information dumps.
His religious background compels him to keep all his books squeaky clean so they're all sanitized to the extreme.
There's no depth to his characters whatsoever, his dialogue is bland and the chemistry between characters is non existent. His prose is serviceable but nothing to write home about.

tl;dr Read his books if you're new to the genre as they're easy to consume but I suggest you move on quickly.

>>12923958
>/sffg/ has a hate boner for him since he's incredibly popular
No he's not liked because he churns out the same subpar shit every time.

>>12923004
>what's so good about Dune?
Mommy Jessica

>>12922438
Not sure if you specifically want more xiaoxiao shit or whatever that stuff is, but I'm a turbo pleb that only reads coming of age fantasy so I can give you a few.
Dawn of wonder jonathan renshaw
The white tower michael wisehart (also banished/hurricane)
paternus dyrk ashton
kingfountain jeff wheeler
mageborn michael manning
crimson queen alec hutson

I think I realized why Ive had so much trouble writing my second novel /sffg/

I just remembered that I only started writing the first one because I was having balance issues and didn't want to die of a brain tumor without finishing a novel (it turned out to be psychosomatic)

>>12923937
if you pay attention you realize literally every problem in that series is caused by women

>>12924404
>paternus dyrk ashton
What ever you do don't read this dog lover book.
Trash. It tries to connect all the mythologies to one person.

Why is it that turning weak feminine men into onaholes is the manliest of literature?

>>12924904
Because they are robbing them of their masculinity in the same way that Aztecs ate hearts to gain that warriors courage.

>>12923613
every time you post this and every time we tell you that art is inherently political. China Mieville is good, you whiny faggot.

>>12923896
I really love most of stormlight's cast, they have their own shit to deal with that is resolved in a way that i find extremely rewarding. Even redhair shit can be viewed in a positive light if you can accept basically a modern le quirky girl finding herself in a medival fantasy setting. If you want a taste of the characters skip chapter one and two i believe of stormlight for a time, those are plot chapters, and read three that come after, those are believe are with main POVs, they are a pretty good representation of the majority of books

Sanderson's biggest strength is how few other writers are still going long epic fantasy novels, it's something you can only really do now if you're established and getting good per book advances

>>12919566
I read a great fantasy one as a teen where a brother and sister became trapped in the brothers body. I've tried for years to Google my way to the name with no luck.

>>12925306
Actually writing this post made me search again and I was able to find it thanks to some nerds on stack exchange also searching

>>12925081
>I really love most of stormlight's cast, they have their own shit to deal with that is resolved in a way that i find extremely rewarding
Kaladin's arc is the same shit every time
>Even redhair shit can be viewed in a positive light if you can accept basically a modern le quirky girl finding herself in a medival fantasy setting
stopped reading right here.

>We
Are there really people in this general who haven't read it? Surely we can avoid stuff in the OP

>>12925456
>He actually participates in monthly readings

>>12925456
Reading it now.

>All their Immanuel Kants together couldn't do it!

Is everyone in some cunny or something?

>>12925927
It's Friday night so it's just you and me here and you're a faggot so what's there to say?

Do you read in bed or chair? I think at this point I would have a hard time getting comfy reading in a chair

>>12925974
for me? its on a couch or a big comfy arm chair

I'm about 70% of the way through the duology for which pic related is the second part. Is there a /lit/ consensus on this?

I have to say I'm very conflicted. I like the overall direction it's going and some of the themes but the characters themselves often feel extremely bland and stale and I have difficulty caring about them very much. The battle scenes can also be hard to follow but maybe that's just me.

>>12925953
That's not right anon, I'm also here! What are my fellow fags up to tonight?

>>12925974
Bed, but my back is always hurting because of it.

>>12925974
bed, except I get tired when lying down. I feel like a chair is better for my neck and so I don't get tired

>>12925456
Only a handful of people participate.
I don't care for this month's book personally and nobody ever reads what I read either so why bother.

>>12926081
>Bed, but my back is always hurting because of it.
I don't see how lying on a bed hurts your back more than sitting does.
Is this your bed?

>>12926117
I sit in a very retarded way with my back against the headboard.

>>12926117
Is that one of the beds at gitmo? I would rather sleep on the floor.

Is this worth reading?

>>12926275
very

How's your night going /sffg/?

I finally got sick of my own whining long enough to do a tiny bit of writing. My stuff isn't as bad I remembered it. I just need to push through, write more and think less, and if I can keep it up I'll have a novel

>>12926117
I have an awful habit of lounging on my bed like a nude model in an old painting. I'm going to give myself scoliosis

>>12926283
Persevere dude, dont dwell on the bad parts and just keep moving forward and you'll reach the end of that novel.

>>12926294
no denying that anon. I think my problem is that I expect perfection from something that's by its own nature trashy, but the reason I'm writing this is because the trashiness is a part of me.

I saw Shazam last night and I think it honestly helped me, even though I didn't particularly like it. Seeing a movie that's intentionally trash succeed because people unironically enjoy it makes me realize that I don't need perfection as long as I can maintain a reasonable sense of humor and find a way to make the emotions stand out

>>12926275
if you dont mind implied gay shit

>>12926275
The catgirl doesn't get dicked.

recommend me your favorite chinkshit immediately

>>12926332
Trashy or not, honesty is more important to art than perfection. And if you really want to perfect something, especially writing, then just revise over and over after you finish a full draft.

Power to you anon, stick with it even if you gotta crawl through one sentence at a time.

>>12926363
>that picture
being that insecure about your personal ideologies

>>12926436
seething analyticel

>>12919428
Greek mythology is full of them if that counts.

>>12926353
because theyre gay

Hard gay

>>12925456
Just because it's recced doesn't mean we've gotten around to it. We was on my backlog and now it isn't

>birdboi being autistic on /tg/ again
Should I go bully him?

>>12926545
> being autistic
oh the irony

>>12926560
Shut your whore mouth. That piece of shit deserves to be made fun of.

/sffg/, I'm debating doing something with my main character that's extremely personal but that I worry is going to also be confusing and break suspension of disbelief, so I've decided to consult you since you're some of the harshest critics

I'm thinking of making my MC's backstory that he was a special ed student

now mind you, my mc's not retarded or autistic. In fact, he's actually a genius. In real life, the special ed system actually encompasses a pretty broad spectrum of physical, psychological and intellectual issues. However many of the teachers working in the system treat the students as if all of them were retarded.

As a result, even though the MC has long since overcome the physical handicap that placed him there and escaped the system, he still has major anger issues fueled by an enormous inferiority complex centered on his intelligence that he struggles to overcome throughout the story.

Do you think this will be a problem, either because people won't give a shit about my soapbox or because the people who do care will see me as shitting on actual retards?

>mostly women writing fiction nowadays
>waifu quality plummets

hmmm...

>>12926625
autists often are geniuses. be careful with "special" ed backgrounds. if your story makes it big you will either become the posterboy for people trying to normalize mental illnesses or people will get really angry for "misrepresenting" mental illnesses.
its a two edged sword neither outcomes are really what you want.
the safe way to do something like this is have someone have OCD or something that drives them to do things thus making them geniuses.

>>12926625
Just don't make him too whiny. Also write a good waifu >>12926638 and you can get away with all sorts of nonsense that nobody actually wants to read.

>>12926275
Thoroughly enjoyable

>>12926646
to be honest, my MC almost certainly has autism spectrum disorder, but when I say that I don't want people to think chris-chan, even though it's a lot closer to my reality than I'd feel comfortable admitting. The fact of the matter is it's not the part of his problems that drives his narrative struggle.

my tasks, I think are to understand what my main character calls himself in his darkest moments (weakling? retard? useless? defective?) and how he views the love interest, who I plan to reveal is actually a former special ed student as well

Finally got around to reading this. It's amazing how much more interesting and creative and infinitely less dull fantasy used to be. Why some fantasyfags insist on reading nothing but derivative epic fantasy is beyond me.

>>12926745
Hey! I liked that book. Will read more Vance in the future.

>>12926773
awe this is cool. Ill give you some space tonight :3

>>12926773
>Likes Le Guin and Vance
Wtf butters is based?

>>12926745
Now go read Alastor for more Vancekino

Does she like BBC or something? Just curious.

>>12926800
>Does she like BBC
Obviously.

>>12926773
are you THIS butters? I thought you stopped tripfagging but I guess that was too much to hope for

Does anyone here have experience with language degradation? I am doing some for naming schemes of different nations.

>Anáns Manjuran Grouping
Va nuthás “Great Island” -> Vanuthá (Remove last consonant)
Hǎhaz zehuns “Last Mountain” -> Hǎhazehun (Remove land consonant) -> Hǎzehun (Dropped repeated consonant pattern)
Naz vaf “White River” -> Navaf (Remove land consonant of first word) -> Navǎs (Corruption of F to S & vowel corruption)
Szunvans száyans “Crowned Coast” -> Szunvanszáyan (Remove land consonant) -> Szunvanszá (Dropping second half of second word) -> Szunvansá (Dropped similar repeated consonant)
Usángn száyans “Knife Coast” -> Usángszáyan (Remove land consonant) -> Usángszá (Dropping second half of second word) -> Usángzá (Dropped similar repeated Consonant)
Sǎz sunǎ “Lesser Lord” -> Sǎsunǎ (Remove land consonant)
Uy sunǎ “Southern Lord” -> Uysuǎ (Remove extent consonant)

>>12926860
>experience with language degradation
I doubt anyone has any experience at all with that, unless you are discussing the degradation of english prose from your typical literary paragraph to something like 'LOL' or 'COPE'

>>12926860
Go backwards you idiot. It's just like doing mazes.

>>12926860
i think making up a language for your fantasy setting thats actually an internally consistent complete language might be the single greatest waste of time possible. Not only is it completely pointless but its time consuming enough that you could probably have written at least one book if you just winged the fucking orcish or whatever and trusted that none of the readers will care (they wont). Stop this gay ass eastern euro shit and just write nigga

>>12926872
SEETHING COPE CRINGE INCEL HAVE SEX

>>12926860
I dunno, as long as it seems just generally convincing to you that all seems ok. This would have to depend on the evolution of language and sounds in the region that you're trying to write, so getting too in-depth sounds like a fool's errand and you should just use what you have.

>>12926879
I doesn't matter if my readers care. I care. I don't write for my readers. I write for myself.

>>12926800
They're aliens. Their planet has a sun that tans their skin, just like on Earth. Why are you afraid?

>>12926881
That is the issue. I don't know what sounds convincing because I am too close to the project.

>>12926872
From the perspective of someone without experience do these names seem as if they have a similar linguistic origin? I had folks tell me that my national names seemed as if I was just rolling my face on the keyboard. Now I am trying to write the languages myself so it doesn't have that feeling.

>>12926878
What do you mean? Can you give an example?

Will Butcher just release Peace Talks already so he can get to work on more Steampunk© cat books.

>>12926897
>mfw Butcher said Peace talks was delayed because he didn't have a room to write in

Just accept it anon, he's finished as a writer, he might milk Dresden a bit more but he's not going to write many more books. You'll be lucky to get one book out of him once every 5 years or so after Peace Talks.

>>12926638
What a false premise.
While it's true that 99.99% of all fiction readers are women, writers are mostly men

>>12926897
>mfw Butcher said Peace talks was delayed because he didn't have a room to write in
Just accept it anon, he's finished as a writer, he might milk Dresden a bit more but he's not going to write many more books. You'll be lucky to get one book out of him once every 5 years or so after Peace Talks.

>>12926860
>>12926887
I have finished one continent's worth of nations and naming conventions.

>MANJURA

>Anáns Manjuran Grouping
Vanuthá “Great Island”
Hǎzehun “Last Mountain”
Navǎs “White River”
Szunvansá “Crowned Coast”
Usángzá “Bladed Coast”
Sǎsunǎ “Lesser Lord”
Uysuǎ “Southern Lord”

>Evoken Manjuran Grouping
Övot Ëvok, “Ice Coast”
Vivöt Ëvok, “Near Coast”
Oksiëvo, “Oksit’s Coast”
Okkëkte, “Eel Island”

>Nǔyug Aujauki Grouping
Kǔguqǔy “Fire Island”

Do these sound linguistically related to one another?

>Get shilled Way of Kings really hard
>Cave in and start reading it
>"Voidbringers, Desolations, Stormlight and etc"
At least it bothered to explain what's Lashing is, but I hate when these kind of novels start off so goddamn thicc.

>>12926977
>>Get shilled Way of Kings really hard
Haven't seen anyone shill Way of Kings here in a while.
Are you taking reading advice from leddit anon?

>>12921999
Quit posting Aleran.

>>12926986
No, IRL. They might be for all I know.

>>12926977
But the WORLD-BUILDING and MAGIC SYSTEMS!

>>12926920
You realize he's cranked out like a dozen chapters in the past two months? he's on 50 something and tweeting spoilers about killing old characters.

Dude got divorced -> Contractors fucked up building his house -> Just got married -> Now he's settled and just flying. March 28th beta readers got chapter 52.

>>12926920
Ah my bad not twitter* Facebook.

>Darrell Schweitzer stated that "Dhalgren is, I think, the most disappointing thing to happen to science fiction since Robert Heinlein made a complete fool of himself with I Will Fear No Evil.
>writers such as Philip K. Dick and Harlan Ellison hated the novel.
>When the book appeared, Ellison wrote: "I must be honest. I gave up after 361 pages. I could not permit myself to be gulled or bored any further."
Why are science fiction authors brainlets?

>>12926887
It does look good anon.

>>12927063
It's the same reason why /ic/ exists, because everyone is a crab.

>>12919428
Shani from Witcher is peak waifu material
>redhead
>easygoing, bubbly type
>not a slut

>>12927160
You've never actually read any of the books she's appeared in, have you?

>>12919900
I think i really got into liking her character- the problem is that she and others keep oscillating wildly linstead of having a proper arc :(
> TFW no Lady Wife :(

Why the fuck is Ellison such an asshole

>Wiped out and looking for some dumb shit for a bit of light reading
>All the dumb shit is going off the dumb end to the point it becomes harder to read than actual books
>All the dumb shit is turning into awful video game isekai shit which is all the same as every one that came before it, where it isn't just blatant plagiarism
>Can't find anything else to read when I'm too shitted to actually do anything

I just want to read some generic fantasy shit or something. Why does everything gotta be so damn difficult all the time.

>>12927004
>>12926999
>April 1st
>believes him

>>12927063
That book isn't sci-fi. Only one thing happens in that entire book that can be qualified as scifi.

>>12927526
>want generic fantasy with a tweest (most preferably non-human/outsider protagonist)
>everything is either generic and played so straight as to be unreadably boring, or completely batshit "all tropes are bad"
God damn it why.

>>12927526
William D Arand.

>>12927526
Literally go on amazon, pick a random word and search for the lowest-rated books wih that word in the title

Any interesting stories with lolis and featuring good worldbuilding? I have already read Cyteen by Cherryh and NK Jemisin's Broken Earth series. Bonus points for headpatting moments!

>>12927847
I wrote a novel with a birdloli that gets shitloads of head pats. It's not published yet though.

>>12928082
Birdboi must deliver

>>12927729
>Almost all "subversive fantasy" feels like it was written by someone who absolutely hates fantasy
Nigga, you can write other shit you know, there's a lot of genres out there that you don't have to be salty about.

>updating my goodreads progress
>it shows me some guy who has read 20 raymond feist books this year (https://www.goodreads.com/user_challenges/17286114))

honestly don't think I could read that much of one author in one go

>>12926275
CS Friedman is an incredibly good writer and that's her best work, so yeah

>>12928163
>writing in a genre you don't like
Do people really do this? For what purpose?

>>12927526
read imager

>>12927308
Most people who see go on about the girls in the Witcher 3 being "waifus" didn't. Yen, Tries, Ciri, etc are all vapid cunts and whores.

>>12925974
I reserve my bed for sleeping so I can actually sleep at night, anon

Lining up my chair with my radiator is the way to go. Comfy/10. Read for hours that way

>>12919428
Syl the cutest. You will never have a spearwaifu.

>>12927847
Black Jewels Trilogy
There is a lot of loli patting....

>>12928380

>>12919428

>>12928632
Andrea is overrated.
Give me the yandere chinkfu instead.

>>12927405
He was a manlet

>>12928672
no fan art of her i think.

>>12927526
When i want to read generic fantasy shit i just read stuff like Forgotten Realms or fantasy books from the 90s that have less than 900 ratings on goodreads

>>12928257
To spite. That ugly fat black bitch NK Jemisin plans on writing some Lovecraftian horror; not because she likes Lovecraftian horror, but because she hates Lovecraft and wants to shit all over his legacy by writing the worst 'woke' garbage imaginable and having his name attached to it.

>>12928731
I guess the one on the cover of the omnibus is her?

>>12928961
I think so. Best girl. Not even death can stop her from being best girl

>>12922017
I forget the details but there's a metric fuckton of assassins running around in the Malazan books, and at least one gets puppeted by a god to become the loli of death. Might be worth looking into.

>>12929066
She's 17-18 iirc and that whole plot is a giant bait with fucking nothing happening with it for the next 7 books maybe more, not interested to find out.

>>12928917
But how can they not realise that this only produces terrible fiction? It seems obvious to me that you're either going to write it badly because you understand it to be bad, or just end up writing something else that shares a few things in common that you fail to use effectively.

>>12929081
>and that whole plot is a giant bait with fucking nothing happening with it for the next 7 books
That's damn near all the plots in Malazan lol

>>12926745

Notice that it blends Science Fiction and fantasy and other genres into one. When we started saying "oh this has to be a Heroic Low Dark Fantasy" we locked ourselves into a horrible trend which doesn't allow for stuff like REH or Jack Vance

just reread blood song after seeing people shill it a few generals ago. Still really enjoyed it. I dont understand how he fucked the sequels up so badly. I dont remember much of the other books but i think they focused on other characters and had vaelin losing his blood song both of which are just fucking terrible choices.

>>12926883
Based

>>12929204
You should check out Schuyler Hernstrom. He's the best modern writer of Vancian fiction.

I can't help but think of Game of Thrones as lurid schlock that waters down European history so its audience can have their maturity validated in between the gore and titties. This impression is all from interactions with rabid fans in tabletop gaming, though. Are the actual books any better than the show?

>>12929262
Yeah he trades vaelin off for the younger kid who gets cut up and the annoying princess. Then theres a lot of angsting and bad choices Really just a mess.

>>12926860
>>12926967
You guys realize this is birdboi, right?

>>12929311
oh god the princess was so cringe
>dude im such a genius i once solved a math problem that no one had been able to solve for 300 years but I never said anything because im a girl so people would be uncomfortable

If hed had the balls to not try to make her sympathetic, i.e. she just wanted power and didnt have any morals, she might have been an interesting character. It sort of felt like he toyed with the idea than decided to make her just another waifu. I cant imagine reading a whole book focused on her though, that sounds terrible. Frentis is cringe too.

Sci-fi novels for this feel? (read the lyrics)
https://keldian.bandcamp.com/track/sundancer-remaster

>>12929304
The books are much better than the show (although that's not hard) but go down in quality after the third.

>>12926275
Yes it’s quite good

>>12926466
No they aren’t you dumb shit

>>12929369
>>12929304
I rate them. Feast for Crows is pure filler through and through, but generally it's quite solid dark fantasy

>>12929304
Books 1-3 are great, but keep in mind that GRRM's strenght is not in his prose but in his characters and world. Book 4 is overall mediocre and 5 is good without being as good as the first three.

>>12919428
Book of the New Sun and Game of Thrones, the Dunk and Egg stories especially, are full of them.

>>12923958
You just described a terrible writer.

>>12926625
No one wants to read about someone in fucking school, so don't delve into it but you can make that part of his backstory and it could be revealed in a sentence or two.
Just think of the impact this would have on his character. He could be especially compassionate of those with mental disabilities, because he spent so much of his childhood with them. He could also at the same time hate being around them because he's had enough of them and their bullshit and also feels guilty for totally leaving what were almost his friends behind.

>>12926745
>>12926773

I HIGHLY recommend The Dragon Masters and I really liked The Blue World.
The Jack Vance Treasury is a really good collection.

>>12927063
Haven't read Dhalgren but Babel-17 was great. Wonderful high adventure space romp. I could easily see Delany being the kind of writer who thinks he's more than he is and attempts a Joycian epic and just totally fails tho. And I could see sci-fi people giving it too long a shelf life by praising it for being so mature cause they don't do good Joycian epics from bad.
Or I could see it being amazing.
What's the word?

>>12927526
You read Bridge of Birds?

>>12929397
Yes they are. SHe all but spells it out.

So apparently I'm too fucking stupid to understand Book of the New Sun. I''ve read little over 100 pages and I've got no idea whats going on. Also doesn't help I'm not a native english speaker and reading this I stumble over a lot of words.

>>12929304
Im currently powering through them because they're so damn good, I just finished book 4 and thought it was the best one yet. They've only gotten better and better as they've gone on. As far as I'm concerned the people who bash 4 and 5 are just plotfags who only want to know about the fate of their favorites, while to me there hasn't been a single chapter that wasn't thrilling, all the new characters are as fun as the old and their ministories are great, and are obviously building to an even greater finale for the mains. Arys Oakenhearts little one and a half chapter arc was so damn good, like the whole of Rob's story in miniature.

Vastly superior to the books, only season 1 is even comparable.

>>12929744
Read the whole thing and then read it again. Just try to comprehend what's going on in terms of the narrative, which isn't that hard.

>>12929744
Book of the New Sun is pretty advanced level English, you should probably save it for later. I'd read like Dune and GoT and Lord of the Rings and maybe even Silmarillion and only if you've enjoyed those would I suggest trying BotNS.

>>12929744
The only person who knows for certain what's going on in that story is Wolfe himself.

>>12929761
Everything just seems really random. It's intriguing but still I feel like I'm just wasting time reading this.
>>12929762
I mean I've read plenty of books in English. Most of the "recommended" fantasy ones included. This just seems somehow disconnected.
>>12929775
Yeah really seems so. Guess I'll try to stick to it since I've nothing else to read at the moment.

>"lo!"

>>12929797
what did he mean by this?

>>12929748
Jaime's arc in 4 is god-tier but come on, you can't tell me those Brienne chapters are anything else but filler.

Doing some language stuff again. I probably won't post about it again here after this. Just want some perspective.

>Nǔyug Aujauki Grouping
Kǔgu koqǔyng “Fire Island” -> Kǔgukoqǔy (Remove last consonant) -> Kǔguqǔy (Removing middle syllable w/ repeated sounds)
Kǎqǎgǎ ngukkǎnǎ “Narrow Swamp” -> Kǎqǎgǎgukkǎnǎ (combining words and deleting consonant) -> Kǎqǎgukkǎnǎ (removing repeated vowel/consonant combo) -> Kǎgukkǎnǎ (removing more common vowel sound for shortening)
Noyǔyag ko uyo ŷǎyangǔyng “Land of Five Hills” -> Noyag uyo ŷǎyangǔyng (common "Land of" corruption) ->Noyagyoǎyangǔyng (combining words & removing consonants) -> Noyagyoǎyangǔ (removing ending consonants) -> Noyagyoǎgǔ (removing repeated similar syllable)
Yǎyng nguŷu yǎkko “Great King’s Land” -> Yǎynguŷǎkko (combining words and removing similar connecting sounds) -> Yǎyǎkko (removing middle syllable)
Noyǔyag ko Yǎyng yǔykǎg “Land of the Great Bay” -> Noyag Yǎyng yǔykǎg (common "Land of" corruption) -> Noyagǎyngǔykǎg (combining words) -> Noyagǎkǎg (removing similar repeated sound)
Noyǔyag ko qǎykuyng ngonggǔgǎ “Land of Sodden Jungles” -> Noyag qǎykuyng ngonggǔgǎ (common "Land of" corruption) -> Noyagǎykuyngonggǔgǎ (Combining words) -> Noyagǎyonggǔgǎ (middle syllable removal) -> Noyaonggǔgǎ (removal of middle syllable) -> Noyagǔgǎ (removing of middle syllable)
Noyǔyag ko quykokkuǎg ungǔykǔyngǎ “Land of Raining Mountains” -> Noyag quykokkuǎg ungǔykǔyngǎ (common "Land of" corruption) -> Noyaguykokkuǎgungǔykǔyngǎ (combining words) -> Noyakokkuǎkǔyngǎ (removing of extant syllables) -> Noyakongǎ (removing of syllables)
Yǔquyng ŷaykǎ “Ancient Enemy” -> Yǔquyngaykǎ (combining words) -> Yǔquynkǎ (removal of extant syllable)

Kǔguqǔy
Kǎgukkǎnǎ
Noyagyoǎgǔ
Yǎyǎkko
Noyagǎkǎg
Noyagǔgǎ
Noyakongǎ
Yǔquynkǎ

>>12922242
This legitimately makes me want to kill myself.

>>12928248
>Keeps reading Riftwar after Serpentwar
Do redditors really do this?

>>12929898
Everyone wants to know whether lacquerniggers beat knights.

>>12929911
lacquerniggers rise up

>>12929898
I liked Talon of the Silver Hawk which comes after but it's not really worth reading the sequels to it

>>12922439
Either way he's not wrong

>>12929785
Alright you should be good then. But yeah it's a strange confusing read. I recommend reading it for the moments more than anything. You'll love it by the end of the four.

>>12929840
Those were the best parts. Have Briennes quest her way through the [spoilers]Bloody Mummers[/spoilers] was fantastic. Brilliant use of characters. Too bad the show cut them out leaving Briennes fuck all to do after leaving Jamie.

>>12929998
The EJew is more controlled by jews and bankers than America is.

>>12929898
Should I read Serpentwar if Arutha and Amos were the only characters I liked in Magician? Think the sequel is about him. Thomas was cool too while he was making the Elf queen his bitch, but then he got boring again.

THREAD WHORE!

>>12930120
Serpentwar has a new cast of characters,old characters appear but you shouldn't worry too much

>>12929363
>>>/mu/

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>>12929097
Their brains don't work like a normal person's does, in their own mind they think people will read their shit and think "wtf I hate Lovecraft now!" instead of just "wow, this is shit"