/lit/ - Literature

>>12918254
>KJV

Pack it up boys we're done

is there any real value in getting a /lit/ approved translation of a book, outside of religious works?

say, for example, The Divine Comedy, Plato's works and Meditations?

>>12918316
I dont know about the lit approved ones, since English isnt my native language, but the translation quality of greek philosophy is pretty important, since inconsistent translations can result in different propositions. Try looking for a version that is as transparent as possible about their translation method, for example by mentioning the original greek word in the footnotes or something.

Moby Dick and Gravity's Rainbow are really fun though.

For what purpose? Why must we incessantly post and repost and create and recreate charts and cart threads? To what end, sir?

>>12918618
kill yourself

Planning on finishing Walden either today or tomorrow, it's very comfy.

Any books with depressed and/or suicidal protags? Other than the obvious.

any charts on investing and/or the stock market?

>>12918662
Speaking of escaping society, is there any way of actually doing so for a limited period of time?
I was thinking about trying a month long hermitage, bringing my books with me and doing nothing but reading and having long walks in the nature. To be more precise, I'm not so much interested in the how but in the where, as in where could I go? Do I need to rent an isolated mountain home?

>>12918262
Based.

This might actually be the first chart I follow.

>>12918707
>>12918662
Interested in this, too.

>>12918707
Pull a Christopher McCandless, you'll be idolized by thousands of retarded teenagers.

>>12918973
Nah, I only want to escape society for a while, nothing too extreme or idealistic, just a quick break from the stream of life.

>>12918260
what's the problem exactly? it's clearly the best from a literary standpoint

>>12918969
based.

Anyone know where I can get an ebook of Bhagavad Gita?

the last thread hit the image limit, why is this one dying at 11?

>>12918639
Where can I find "internet dreams"? Is that even real? What is it about?

>>12921751
>Is that even real?
no. the chart is a troll

>>12921755
What about the other books? Franz kafka is real... Or maybe not?

>>12921763
that's the joke; a few of the books on the chart are real to throw you off even further

>>12918254
LOTR is real world history book tho.

Quick question here, i just started to reading Dostoyevsky by "Notes from Underground". Is it, like, "wrong"?

>>12922307
>wrong
yea
it should be "Notes from Underground" by Dostoyevsky

>>12918631
>putting Nietzche and Ayn Rand with meme 2000s atheists
Say what you want about the former but at least they acknowledged that humanism is largely unnecessary with atheism.

>>12918678

>>12918254
Did your mom read you that book when you were a kid too, anon? :)

>>12918316

>>12918316

>>12918254
Didn't hear about the Love You Forever book before this. Kind of depressing considering the shit I put my parents through via my autism. Trying to do better by them.

>>12918646
And then I remembered Tarl Warwick is Styxhexenhammer....

>>12922307
it's based

>>12918995
it's less accurate than modern translations

>>12924029
Please kill yourself. This chart is offensively bad, and investing doesn't require any knowledge of economics.

>>12924445
all nonfiction is midwit core tbqh

Anybody have a warhammer 40k reading chart?

Kind of want to get into it but don't know where to start. Google gives me mixed results.

What are some books about spiritually and non materially orientated anarchism?

>>12924903
>>12924923
What is Yuri's and Natsuki's?

Someone pls make NEET chart

>>12925778
pic is Yuri, >>12924033 is Natsuki

>>12924033
>Aku no Hana
>Berserk
>Blame!
>Bokurano
>Dragon Head
>Punpun

>fucking welcome to the NHK lmao
>the shitty shigurui anime

This list is hot garbage

>>12925824
>not liking Aku no Hana
this comment is hot garbage

>>12925835
It's light shock fetishist garbage, I guess the art is alright

>>12918254
>The Odyssey that high
The Odyssey is nothing compared to Iliad.

>>12918987
>>12918707
Maybe a meditation retreat?

>>12925852
if you want shock fetishism, there's so many other anime/manga to consume instead. I mean seriously now, Elfen Lied came out first, people were already making disgusting anime for shock value, and you can't call the entire thing pure shock value when act 3 exists. anyone who's read act 3 can see tha-
wait a second, you're talking about the anime. fucking kek, read the original manga dumbass

>>12918254
Another cancer thread created by the hivemind

>>12918707
If you live within twenty or so miles of wilderness just buy a dang tent, get some non perishable food and go for a week or whatever.

>>12924482
At least it's not Sargon or something.

>>12918707
There are monastic retreats manyplaces, probably near you. You may have to take a vow of silence or such while you are there.

>>12924033
>Hyouka
chart discarded

>>12918316
>not reading the original texts

>>12918254
Any recommendations for books on the foundations of poetry? Metre, syntax, form etc. Iambics and alexandrines.

>>12918646
>magic: history, theory, practice
>dr. ernst schertel
>annotated by adolf hitler
This has got to be fake

>>12926987

>>12926522
>implying hyouka isnt great
fuck off

>>12918646

The Egyptian book of the Dead is a bunch of boring incantations. I may read it again, though.

>>12923999

What will I get out of the book of the dead?

>>12927793
based
>>12927885
cringe
>>12928381
based
>>12928411
cringe
>>12928458
meh
>>12928476
>science
cringe

http://tripleampersand.org/alt-woke-manifesto/
http://tripleampersand.org/altwoke-companion/

>>12928511
>filename
back to cripplechan with you

http://www.greatconversation.com/10-year-reading-plan

>>12926987
I’m working through A Poet’s Guide to Poetry. Has about 300-400 pages of lessons, a chunk of exercises, and a glossary at the end, plus a list of work for further reading. Covers Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Yeats, etc, and some contemporary authors too. Good book.

>>12928547
Philosophy for ants

>>12928511
I like this because you get to skip the republic.

>>12928587
There is also this version

>>12928631

>>12928624
there's no clear starting point though. I would like to follow it too

>>12928700
the first book on the list (Bible) does not reference """"""""Lucifer"""""""", and the rest are fanfiction

>>12928550
It's a Good plan, but too anglocentric

test

>>12928411
Roll

>>12929226
Dude, you don't sound clever

>>12929251
""""""""Lucifer"""""""" is basically the very first self-insert OC

Does a horror-/lit/ chart exist? Can someone post it. Preferably psychological, not monsters/gore

>>12929393
see
>>12929447

>>12929393
see
>>12929447
>>12929463

>>12929553
>>12929459

thanks!

>>12929752
>first book is American Gods
chart disca-
>second is 本 of the Nuevo Coлнцe
based cha-
>third is And Other Stories and Other Stories, fourth is Dying Earth
chart disca-
>fifth is Faerie Queene
based cha-
>sixth is Golden Bough, seventh is Jonathen Strange
STOP, WHY ARE HALF OF THESE GARBAGE

>>12923990
How much of the Oxford Essential Guide to Writing is English-specific?

>>12929689
>No From Romance to Ritual

>>12929783
It feels like whoever made it was really scratching the bottom of the barrel for literally all clearly non-Tolkien-inspired "fantasy" lit he could think of, up to and including mythological texts, no less than 3 arthurian works, plays with fantastical elements, Weird Fiction and shit that's barely even fantasy

>>12929900
>Mitchell and Murakami not given green dots
why

>>12918316

>>12925782
this. bump

If nobody wants to make it please tell me some books i should add so i can start making it myself.

>>12929689
Guide to a bunch of modern junk is more like it. Where is Historia Regum Britanniae? Mabinogion? At least Mallory is there. And Pyle isn't like last year I guess.

>>12918254
>The purpose of reading literature is not to enjoy it but to impress other people
>Crime and Punishment

I bet you live somewhere where its impressive just to be able to read

Is there a chart for learning French/easy literature in French?

>>12923990
thanks for posting this

>>12923402
someone should make a chart that says depressing lit, but it actually be obscure books that will have the opposite effect and make them happy.

>>12930905
>someone
do it yourself

>>12924636
Not him, but which version would you recommend?

>>12925824
Punpun is a fucking masterpiece, what are you on about, retard?

>>12931181
not him, but NRSV is the obvious choice for accuracy

>>12928587
>>12928624
>>12928641

>>12918969
Good post.

>>12918254
Fuck you, Watchmen is great.

>>12928547
>unironically recommending Russel

A man that was wrong about everything title of his book should have been "What I think about History of western philosophy: I tried so hard and got so far but in the end I was wrong again".

>>12932424
>Forcing people to read the castle twice

/HONK/ chart fucking when

>>12932292
What the hell is this? The complete works of Plato plus two more books by Plato that you just read. Now the same for Aristotle. Then Epicurus then Descartes. Sure nothing happened in 2000 years but some guys in a garden making lucky guesses about physics. I want even going to look at the rest but I couldn't help but notice a bunch of outdated books on psychology for some reason. Also barely any description or organization. I assume tree next one is just as bad.

This chart gives a bad name to the whole idea of /lit/ charts. Do not post it again.

>>12932982
Stupid phone. Also holy crap there are like a dozen of these dumb charts.

>>12928411
Roly poly

>>12918646
I like your videos Styx.

>>12932644
clownworld is just nihilism for shitposters

How does lit sort their books? I grouped mine by country of origin but quickly realised how idiotic it is...

>>12921771
One day we are going to wake up and find out that "internet dreams" had make it's way into reality

>>12933394
name of author

>>12933366

>>12933237
>>12933275
>>12933409
>>12933422
These are very, very bad guides.

>>12933398
this, and second is publisher

>>12929874
No Holocaust novels?

>>12929752
is his dark materials any good?

>>12926894
This.

>>12930905
That's a pretty good idea anon.
I just realised I've seen plenty of "depressing books" lists and threads, but barely any threads for books to fight depression. You anons got any recommendations?
I know a few friends who could use a little help.

>>12924445
The Prince is good though

>>12918254
>saint thomas aquanis but no Aristotle
Shit chart m8

>>12933925
>>12930955
>>12930905

I honestly haven't read much uplifting literature. Any recs?

>>12934343
not sure I see how these books are related. What does "Exposing the Counter-tradition" mean?

>>12934368

>>12934206
lol

>>12918262
I'm reading Creative and Critical Thinking right now. I want to say it's really altered the way I view problems.

Another book to consider is Thinking, Fast and Slow.

>>12934434
So is the counter tradition spiritual/metaphysical lit? By "exposing" I would imagine the works are skeptical of this counter tradition, but I don't guenon is that at all.

I usually ask for an anthropology chart in these threads but I'll ask something a bit different today - can anyone recommend me some books on the dawn of humanity? The extinction of Neanderthals, the rise of the Homo Sapiens, how early tribes were formed (if that's a good way of saying it), stuff like that. Thanks in advance.

>>12934868
The point propably isn't to criticize heresy but to trace the workings of a malignant supernatural force behind the state of things. Such a list could include works in support of this movement and works exposing it. Didn't make the list, it's just my interpretation. I'm not interested in the occult desu.

>>12934928
God she looks beautiful in this shot.

>>12918254
based

>>12935113
the only way to make sense of the postmodern world is to embrace the postmodernity, not reading books that amount to "I'm not listening because this hurts my feelings"

>>12932109
Not even the best work by Alan Moore. Try to get some of your own taste, you're throwing around baby's first graphic novel.

>>12923990
>"how to read a book"
>it's a book

Any good stuff on anarchism? Not communist “anarchism”, like actual anarchism

>>12935453
>actual anarchism
so communist anarchism? unless you meant capitalist "anarchism", which is not actually anarchism

>>12927698
No, that's a fairly accurate depiction of /x/core occultism

>>12925184
>"This is a problem!"
>Does not explain the problem nor propose a solution
Way to contribute fuck all, Anon.

>>12925184
>and investing doesn't require any knowledge of economics.

>>12933150
>4000x9000
>that organization
>that stretched background

fucking why

>>12933394
By gradient of subject manner

>>12935453

>>12936223
libertarianism is already a meme, but ancap? that's some sort of hypermeme lol

>>12935453

>>12936223
Anarcho-capitalism? You mean feudalism, you fucking retard?

>>12936337
>>12936353
Eat shit, losers.

>>12936192
Actually in contrast to the quality of the selection.

>>12936360
Still a retard, anon. Post all you want. It won't make ancap ideology any less stupid

>>12936360
>self-steel-manning
lol

>>12936378
>>12936381
>tfw still no arguments

>>12936405
>tfw still no arguments, just memes
lol

>>12936427

>>12931188
Punpun is not that good if you're over 21 and can no longer relate to teenager angst. Strongest Man Kurosawa is better if you're an older guy.

>>12936444
>basically Infinite Jest

>>12935453

>>12937193

>>12918646
is magic real?

>>12934036
This is about to be redone >>12896963

>>12918618
Why do anything at all?

búmp

>>12934973
Yes.

>>12934928
Please somebody

>>12918254
>Graphic novels
So I guess literature is art, but art isn't art? Get over yourself.

>>12936427
>nobody bothers engaging the mouthbreathing retard in discussion
>"no arguments hurr durr"

>>12934973
that scene where she sits bare-ass on michael pitt's face...fml

>>12934008

>>12934360
See >>12924554

>>12930235
Welcome to the NHK of course

>>12924449
Based

Any charts on brazilian literature or/and latin american lit in general? What do you guys read in school? (country: book1, book2, book3, etc)

>>12918952
>>12941500
There's one in the thread and I think there was a latin american general as well.

>>12941500
Check the charts page on the wiki

>>12918631
Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris are all still left leaning though, people who actually listened to them wouldn't like Atlas Shrugged.

>>12928411
~40% chance I get something I've already read but I hope not. Role

>>12928411
>Hugo, A Fight With a Cannon
Spent like 20 minutes trying to find the fucking original version in french until I realized its just an english translated excerpt from Quatrevingt-treize that gets passed around Lit101 syllabi for some retarded reason.

Why not read the full book?? Wtf kind of weaponized autism is this.

>>12928411
.

>>12941500

>>12941500

>>12943273
at least put Grande Sertão: Veredas, Dom Casmurro and The Posthumous Memoirs of Bras Cubas

You put Carlos Fuentes. He thought Machado was the "miracle of the 19th century"
see for yourself:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-jun-07-bk-57293-story.html

You put Vargas Llosa. He wrote the book The War of the End of the World based on this BR book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebellion_in_the_Backlands

>>12928616
rip

>>12935453
>actual anarchism with a boss who sets a rigid day-to-day life for you
Inspiring

>>12943967
>not realizing that hierarchies are an unavoidable expression of biological reality.

>>12934928
nude prime eva green is single redeeming quality of this film

>>12935178
the listed books are the diametric opposite of "i'm not listening because this hurts my feelings"

>>12928700
>screwtape letters
cringe

>>12925824
have a (you)

>>12944342
>basing your entire political philosophy around trying to eliminate hierarchy
>"lol hierarchy is inevitable, idiot"
inspiring indeed

>>12944950
You're propably confusing me with another anon.

>>12944950
>>12944973
+It seems erroneously thinking that ancaps are against hierarchies in general.

Requesting war and battle tactics book chart

>>12928411
roll

>>12933383
> storm of steel
> fiction
wut

>>12918254
>Love You Forever
Jesus christ just remember this exists is gonna make me cry. The fuck is happening.

Can someone please post the chart on beginner's
>cosmic horror
>sublime horror

>>12945039
seconded

is there a more extensive version of >>12930088 in the vein of >>12924067?

>>12929807
Just ordered "The Waitress is New" based on this pic. Looks like a very interesting read, can't wait until it comes in the mail tomorrow.

>>12931181
The Chad Message
>"First this: God created the Heavens and Earth--all you see, all you don't see. Earth was a soup of nothingness, a bottomless emptiness, an inky blackness. God's Spirit brooded like a bird above the watery abyss. God spoke: "Light!" And light appeared."

>>12946120
my agnosticity is on the floor laughing while my repressed Lutheran upbringing is screaming heresy

>>12918631

>I am enlightened by my intelligence

I don't know who the guy is who said his but does he not see the flaw in this statement?

>>12924067
>translations

>>12924007

Aryan Idols by Stefan Arvidsson is another good book.

>>12946183
>reading

>>12928638

>esoteric islam

in other words white people reading their own personal bullshit into a religion from the middle east where none of these esoteric tenents are upheld.

>>12946195
>

>>12946183
>not spending 3 years learning an archaic tuscan dialect just to read the autistic self-insert fanfiction of a 14th century Virgilfag
That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg

>>12946245

>>12946249
>having to learn it
Sorry I know a latin language so I can read all of them by default

>>12933569

It's a children's book but no other series gives me so much nostalgia. The first and the second are good. There is a very anti-religious tone through the whole series. It's not comparable to Lord of the Rings though. I'm not entirely sure what that chart is trying to say though.

>>12946255
>I know central american spanish so I have no problem reading medieval tuscan
Lol wut, that's like saying you can read ancient cantonese monk scrolls because you're fluent in korean

>>12946255
Nigger wtf are you on. I speak italian and latin and even I can barely understand original dante comedy texts

>>12946249
fucking plebs not speaking renaissance era florentinian

>>12946249
Do they really not teach americans all the Italo-Dalmatian languages? I thought it was just a meme. Fucking kek at burgertards

>>12924445
Why is The Hero with a Thousand Faces midwit core?

>>12946463
Too popular I suppose.

>>12946285
>I speak italian and latin and even I can barely understand original dante comedy texts
Literally how
I know portuguese and spanish and I can read them fine, rarely checking for the definition of some word or another

>>12926516
I thought the vow of silence thing was largely a meme? Not trying to be confrontational at all, just genuinely curious about this

>>12918631
I didn't realize Christopher Hitchens had children

>>12946548
>reading Italian and Latin using only Spanish and Muslim Spanish
literally how

>>12946594
Not sure if all of them do it. But some do. I mean it isn't forever, you can talk when you leave. But it's not a hotel. You get a loaf of bread, a chunk of cheese, and a whole lot of time to contemplate alone. The one I know about is deep in the woods in Minnesota. Beds in the summer might be full. But it's easy to get in during winter.

>>12918707
>>12926516
>>12946594
>>12947233
I think you guys are thinking of the Trappists. Their code requires them to take in guests and give them room and board. You usually have to "reserve" a cell online or on the phone, but once you're there it's... free room and board. I stayed in a Trappist monastery in Kentucky (Our Lady of Gethsemane because of Thomas Merton) and they had a code of silence, three meals a day, etc. Ask me shit about it if you're interested. I stayed for about a week.

>>12947233
>>12947259
Also I don't know about all of them but we were fed actual meals and shit, not "bread and cheese." It was really nice. I rec it to anyone who has the time. Most of their monasteries are out in the middle of fucking nowhere though so be prepared to drive.

>>12918969
Been looking for a guide like this, thanks anon

>>12946548
dude you got BTFO'd, just face it and stop pretending like you can read archaic dialects of languages that have the same ancient base as yours. No one believes you. Just like no one would believe me if I said I could read the original Beowulf scripts just because I know german and english. A basic google search shows that most translations literally required years of linguistics study into 12th-14th century tuscan/florentino. And it takes about 0 sense to understand that you're a massive faggot for even trying to claim you can read medieval tuscan just by knowing modern spanish.

>>12947259
is the code of silence thing a meme or are they actually silent

>>12947264
>>12947357
My friend goes once a year, so I'm going on what he's said. Bread, cheese and no talking. Also something about don't let your ass freeze to the seat in the outhouse because you may be there a while. That might be a joke, but silence was definitely the case.

>>12947428
>>12947357
Huh. Weird. We got simple meals. Nothing fancy but it was more than bread and cheese. They did make bread in the monastery though. The one in Kentucky had indoor plumbing and each cell had its own bathroom + along with a hall bathroom. The silence thing isn't a meme, you're not allowed to talk on monastery grounds. You can sing if you attend their services though, they hold 6 a day starting around 4 AM.

>>12928411
Roll

>>12928411
roll

>>12936446
It's true, it's the best manga probably but punpun is also amazing imo.

>>12928411
Rollerblade

>>12947326
Nigga I can tell you are the same guy you just posted another pokemon reaction image, stop prentending I got "BTFO'd" by someone else
And why are you so mad anyway? "No one believes you" - there was like 3 guys in this conversation at most. I'm telling the truth what can I say. You want me to lie to you and said I'm having a hard time with the Comedy when I'm not? Like I said, sometimes I get confused on the meaning of something and I check the definition of something or other but generally yeah it's like I said, I picked it up and I could fucking read the thing. I can read regular modern Italian just fine. I'm sorry it makes you seethe this hard what do you want me to do

>>12947962
>I can tell you are the same guy you just posted another pokemon reaction image
Wow quite the 200IQ master detective you are aren't you? I was never pretending I wasn't you autistic sperg, which should be clear by me being the only one using pokemon in all my posts.

You getting called out on your bullshit by like 3 other dudes was what I was referring to by getting btfo'd. You're objectively not telling the truth though, you just keep ignoring all my points about how inane it is to think someone could read 14th century truscan just because they know portuguese. I wouldn't even have believed you if you said you knew modern italian, because I do, and the comedy to modern italian is essentially on the same level as beowulf to modern english.

You're basically saying you can read Beowulf because you know gaelic, if you want idea of how fundamentally retarded you sound

>>12928411
rol