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What are some works of great journalism?

>> No.12905942
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>>12905933
All The President's Men by Woodward and Bernstein

>> No.12905957

>>12905933
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-legal-case-for-striking-north-korea-first-1519862374

>> No.12906281
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I really don't know anything about journalism, but my journalist cousin says start with Kapuscinsky

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>>12905933
"The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair most definitely could be nominated for this considering the influence it had on national policy. While being a novel and the plot being fiction, the book revealed the squalor, exploitation, and horrifyingly unhygienic practices within the meat industry.
Theodore Roosevelt considered Sinclair earlier a hysterical dumbass, but having read the book, took heed of what it criticized. This eventually lead to the Meat Inspection Act and the Pure Food and Drug Act being passed, and the establishment of what would become the Food and Drug Administration.

Funnily that's not what Sinclair was after. He was dismayed that the industry got inspections and standards on taxpayer dime, rather than being forced to do it at their own cost. Also, as a socialist, he wasn't happy that the more human side of the whole affair went clean past the whole public debate. Everyone was shocked about the treatment of the meat that came to their table, but did not worry about the lives that suffered in the literal and proverbial meat-grinder.
"I aimed at the public's heart, and by accident I hit it in the stomach."

>> No.12906373

>>12906361
Oh please.
https://fee.org/articles/of-meat-and-myth/

I remember learning the Jungle meat-packing in high school like it was actual fact. Naturally, that was the only excerpt from the book they showed to us; you read the rest of the book, and it's just bad socialist realism.

>> No.12906429

>>12905933
None
The only time journalism was "great" was when artists and intellectuals where the ones writing the articles. Journalists always were scum and failures (failed artists, failed politicians), read Balzac and see nothing really has changed (except that journalists are even more retarded)

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>>12906373
I specifically stated the book was fiction and begun by mentioning that I suggested it not for accuracy, but for influence.
You do understand that an opinion-piece full of sharp words about the book, on the website of a free-market-first think-tank, does not quite garner the same trust a source-filled Wikipedia article gets? Particularly when the former throws around names and claims without referring to any specific sources at all.

>> No.12906487

>>12905942
>reading the American Brutus and Cassius.

If he’ll exists, two of satan’s mouths belong to them.

>> No.12906517

>>12906373
>libertarian think-tank
lmao

>> No.12906533

>>12905933
Lester Bangs's music writing and journalism was very influential on me as a kid in deepening my appreciation for all art forms, not just music, and changing my ideas about what good writing is and redefining the essay format.
Perhaps a bit entry-level, but I'm glad I had such an interesting entry-point to writing and general cultural awareness.

>> No.12906570

>>12906533
>and redefining the essay format.
To be clear I mean redefining it to me, not in general.

>> No.12906949

>>12906281
I want to pee on all the Kardashians.

>> No.12907223

>>12906459
>Capitalism (aka Self-Ownership) Is The Only Moral Economic System
Hahahaha

>> No.12908132
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Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail '72, i know it is cool to hate liberal views but can we agree nixon was 100 percent shit

>> No.12908206

http://archive.harpers.org/1996/12/pdf/HarpersMagazine-1996-12-0008204.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJXATU3VRJAAA66RA&Expires=1449521434&Signature=Fe6Zb%2FkhQC3EfuHPFPHTw8EpzAc%3D

>> No.12908211

>>12908132
>can we agree nixon was 100 percent shit
no. 50% shit, 50% good.

>> No.12908228

>>12908211
What did you actually like from Nixon that can evenly match extending the war for his own political goals, starting the war on drugs to intentionally exacerbate racist tensions, and permanently destroying all public confidence in and respect for the presidency

>> No.12908235 [DELETED] 

>>12908228
he was a shit president but he was a good senator.

>> No.12908243

>>12908228
he was a shit president but he was a good senator and vp*.

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>>12908228
hes just playing a retarded neutral game and throwing an opinion that means nothing, obviously has done 0 research or basing his opinion on surface level public presses or his speech "muh silent majority"

>> No.12908272

>>12908259
no, i'm basing it on how he was a good senator and vp but a shit president.

>> No.12908282

>>12908272
guy posted a book about nixon as president, he never mentioned him as senator or vp

>> No.12908305

>>12908282
he said nixon was 100% shit. i disagreed and said i thought he was very good outside his presidency, and even did occasional good while president.

>> No.12909292

>>12905933
I want to kill journalists.

>> No.12909354

>>12906429
Came here to say this. Journalists are seriously some of the lowest IQs on the planet. Good creative artists do not become journalists or vice versa.

>> No.12909371

herr - dispatches
Coll - ghost wars
Make no Law - lewis
Dangerous Estate - Francis Williams
Manufacturing consent - Chomsky
Scoop - waugh
Good times, Bad times - Harry Evans
30: The Collapse of the Great America Newspaper - Madigan

I read them all and they're all good. First two are more examples of journalism well performed whilst the rest relate to the journalist industry.

>> No.12909381

>>12909354
>american zoomer

>> No.12909382

>>12906487
Huh, I was reading that scene just yesterday

>> No.12909416

>>12909381
>Hates Americans, primarily out of jealousy. Cannot admit it. Cannot rationally debate them or counter their arguments with fact.
How pedestrian.

>> No.12909426

>>12908206
>a mummified corpse on the second page

welp, it's a strange experience reading that page

>> No.12909430

>>12909354
Didn't most of the actors of New Journalism end up publishing a book or two.