/lit/ - Literature

Soulcatcher a waifu

>>12894521
FUCK YOUUUUUUU

Started The Mote in God's Eye today
Wasn't expecting it to be far-future fiction but I'm excited to see where it goes

Reminder.

>>12894557
>basing your taste around what will make people you'll never meet annoyed

>>12894569
Thank you for proving my point.

>>12894436
the only 2 chinkshits i follow are library of heaven's path and emperor's domination
it is fun to read and the other one is a no bullshit mc

>>12894499
The Stars my Destination by Alfred Bester
The Instrumentality of Mankind/The Rediscovery of Man by Cordwainer Smith

stop reading children's books

>>12894631
Literally unironically all I read are YA coming of age fantasy.

Can we read Moby Dick instead? The whale is borderline fantasy so I'm sure it can count

anything like pic related?
>a colony ship
>wake up only to find that thay're the only humans left
i only know of first colony by ken lozito, but it's not that good

>>12894657
Hull Zero Three
Children of Time

>>12894676
>children of time
i dropped midway because i didn't really enjoy the spiders
>hull zero three
from the synopsis i assume the survivors are only few people?

>>12894512
Those ships would fall and all hands would be lost. Stupid.

>>12894557
Soulcatcher could 1 v 1 Conan without breaking a sweat.

What not to read

>>12894894
Fuck you it's magic

https://www.tor.com/2019/04/02/excerpts-chen-qiufan-waste-tide/
This seems right up my alley.

>>12894913
Well your magic just got hundred of sailors killed and I'd assume thousands of dollars of property destroyed.

>>12894898
Didn't she get killed by Lady?

I also have a question, is there some romance between Croaker and the Lady after the third book?

>>12895048
>is there some romance between Croaker and the Lady after the third book?
They have a kid so yea. And she goes full menstrual rage when she thinks he was killed, kinda cute.
>Didn't she get killed by Lady?
Lady is incapable of killing best girl

>>12895056
So who gets to fuck Soulcatcher? Or does see simply disappear after fighting with Lady and losing? And what part of the story made you waifu her.

Also I think I'm broken, bros, even if Lady x Croaker sounds cute all I can think of is 'sloppy seconds'. Kill me.

>>12895082
Not him, but first book made me waifu her.

All you faggots are doing is making it so that I will never ever read the Black Company

>>12895099
Good riddance.

>>12895082
Waifu'd her when they were at the inn stalking rebels.
>fighting with Lady and losing?
Best girl would have curbstomped the slag if Croaker didn't stab her in the back via decapitation (Soulcatcher forgives him though)

>>12895099
Probably would have been a Ladyfag anyway.

>>12895162
>>12895136
Lady is ok too, it's just that in the first book there was no chemistry and no reason for them to like each other anyway, while there was some build up with Soulcatcher. Guess Cook just wanted to waifu Lady.

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>>12894512
>Monthly Reading books
Neat.

>>12895206
>no image
Fugg

>>12895172
>Guess Cook just wanted to waifu Lady.
Pretty much, in the later books lady gets whitewashed and Soulcatcher goes full retard.

>>12895099
Good choice, it's a mediocre story and poorly written.
>>12895172
There's no chemistry or build-up with anyone.

>>12895219
>There's no chemistry or build-up with anyone.
What about the part where she chases his dreams?

>>12895219
>>12895226
Or when she reads his diary and recreates his imaginings of her?

>>12895226
>>12895231
I don't remember any of this. Was it so dull I forgot it entirely? Croaker doesn't even acknowledge Soulcatcher is female until the very end, despite noticing her tits and being told the sex of the Taken is relevant.

>>12895246
It's not Cook's fault that you're dense. Croaker mentions several times that he thinks the young woman's voice is Soulcatcher's true voice.

>>12895246
>>12895231
didn't limper turn out to be female

>>12895262
No.

Guys, it's over. We're done with Black Company and everyone sane person who has read it or attempted to read it agrees that it's a mess and that Soulcatcher and Lady are whores.

>>12895269
No.

>>12895269
t. Retard

>>12895269
My waifu could beat your waifu up!

>>12895255
He literally says he's surprised to find she's female at the end despite commenting on her looking feminine about fifty pages in. It's baffling.
Much like his insistence throughout the book that they're working for the baddies, then wanting to run away at the end when he finds he's working for the baddies. Because she killed her sister, which he'd already been told she had done.

>>12895269
Is that genderbender Kvothe?

>>12895292
No, he says he's surprised that he just decapitated Lady's twin sister.

>>12895308
It's Shallan from Stormlight.

>>12895320
He was calling Soulcatcher "he" up to that point and narrates something like, "So Soulcatcher was one of the female Taken". Prior to this he insists Soulcatcher's sex is irrelevant despite referring to one of the other Taken as "she" (I forget which because none of them fucking matter), and being told the girls are the traitors.

>>12894894
>>12895009
>doesn't know that gravity is a liberal conspiracy

>>12895269

>>12895329
How did I not recognize her

Why does fantasy seem so much more pervasive than scifi?
Is it because in fantasy writers can just write whatever shit they want and call it magic, whereas if you're writing scifi you at least need a basic understanding of scientific principles? i.e. fantasy is just easier for hacks to write?

>>12895469
Wow NO SHIT BRO
plus fantasy has a bigger audience especially among casuals and females.

>>12895469
>if you're writing scifi you at least need a basic understanding of scientific principles?
You hard scifi nuts really need to kys right now.

>>12894512
Assassin’s Apprentice up till Assassin's Fate is the best coming of age story in all of fantasy, prove me wrong.

>>12895596
i honestly liked codex alera more for that aspect.
dont get me wrong assassins apprentice was great, but codex alrea did it better in terms of coming of age in my opinion.

>>12895596
>prove me wrong.
Easy. Read the books, lol. Assassin my ass, homeboy is a glorified herbalist who gets his ass kicked across the continent and is in a constant state of depression.

>>12895610
You need to chill out with the Codex Alera shilling, nobody here is going to fall for the Butcher meme.

Woah shit, Brandy's begun writing his first draft of book 4.

>>12895610
imagine unironically reading such cliche-riddled brainlet garbage

This is still the best series I've ever read.

>>12895614
>Codex Alera shilling
I literally never see the series even being talked about aside from a mention here or there. Why are you so insecure?

>>12895635
I'd take my cliche ridden book over Cuck's Apprentice any day.

I always look up new books on goodreads rated around 3.5/5 written by women.
I then look at the reviews and if most of the top reviews are 1 or 1.5 star ratings by women, I'll read it.
Works every time, especially with grimdark shit.

>>12895620
I dropped Sanderson. It's official, he only care about YA shit. His memeward is already getting a book 2, yet he hasn't even started stormlight book 4.

>>12895666
What is pic about?

>>12895651
Meme or not? I might pick it up,

>>12895689
I think I met Satan that day, so I photographed him.

>>12895666
based and redpilled

>>12895692
Hello new friend, yes it's a meme.

>>12895685
Sanderson is basically the capeshit of Fantasy. I can’t blame anyone for disliking his work, but to me, it’s still enjoyable. (I’m only referring to Starlight and perhaps one or two of his other series, though, Mistborn is hot trash and ridicilously overrated.)

instead of arguing dumb shits like black company why not help me find a book to read >>12894657

>>12895666
>written by women
why tho, why do that to yourself?

>>12895651
Stop the fucking baiting. You are the same anon who has shilled the same series for at least a few hundred posts.

>>12894512
>Post books with pirates, booty and naval battles.

>>12895795
he's been MIA for a bit. I, I, actually missed the little faggot.....

>>12895754
Women are better at BTFO'ing other women when they really try.
If it's marketed as grimdark and the female reviewers absolutely despise the book I know for certain that it's grimdark.

>>12895810
Somebody on /tv/ asked for dark fantasy recommendations and some idiot responded with Sanderson.
I did what any other rational person would have done by telling him to kill himself, mod didn't like it and banned me for a few days.

>he doesn't ban evade

>>12895804
Poor man's fight for space pirates.

>>12895861
>willingly admitting that you ban evade
Lol. See you in a few weeks.

>>12895843
Despite that other cunt calling me a newfag, I'm willing to give most things a try. Sell me on the series, anon.

>he doesn't have dynamic ips

>>12895843
>temporary ban

>>12895843
>I did what any other rational person would have done by telling him to kill himself
Based. To bad they did not permaban you however.

>>12894657
Tau Zero

>>12895861
Sometimes it's healthy to take a break.

>>12895904
Just read it.
Download it from vk or wherever.

>>12896022
You too.

>>12895843
They ban for telling someone to kill themselves? What?
I'm shocked /sffg/ is not a desolate wasteland.

This one completely killed the series for me.

>>12896084
ever since meme-lover happened /tv/ is on a tight leash to try to encourage more prominent people to visit there.

>>12894657
Lost tribes of the Sith

>>12896096
Words of Radiance was garbage though.

>>12896096
i was looking forward to it for a while, but it was so forgettable

what am i expecting

>>12896096
Why are this guy's book's covers so bad? Absolutely, disgustingly bad.

>>12896202
I liked the covers of the 1st two books. This one's trash though.

>>12896051
Based recommendation, anon.

>>12896202
I'll be the first to say sanderson is THE worst author regularly discussed here, but he has some baller covers here and there.

>>12896096
Nothing made sense by the end of the book. He wrote such a big pile of useless filler that he had to wrap everything up in the end without a satisfying reason.

Death of Sadeas was completely inconsequential for Adolin
One punch man is instantly made security guard after killing the guy's fucking brother

>>12896190
alien dong

>>12895843
I wish you were permabanned

>read two different books with "assassin tracks down murderer/other assassin" premises this year
>both made it so fucking obvious who the killer was early on

I think I'm done with any fantasy that mentions assassins on the blurb forever

>>12895469
>if you're writing scifi you at least need a basic understanding of scientific principles
scifi is about speculation and what ifs anyone who writes scifi thinking it's about scientific principles fucking sucks at it

>>12896348
You're talking about Age of Assassins, correct? Yeah the mystery was a bit obvious but I still liked the book though.
I have a soft spot for small scale fantasies that don't get carried away with world building and stick to a small setting, especially if the setting is a castle.

>>12896096
I have not even read it yet.

>>12896348
Yeah I've noticed every book about assassins usually ends up being trash

>>12896376
Yeah just read "The Perfect Assassin" and it does the same thing

How autistic should an author be with his language? Got really triggered when a dude in a fantasy world described something as a Pyrrhic victory.

What the fuck is Robin Hobb's problem? Why make a book called Assassin's apprentice and have no real assassinations?

>>12896051
looks decent, thanks

>>12896151
are you memeing me or is it actually good

>>12896387
Less autistic than you. Preferably a lot less.

>>12896390
Her working title was "Chivalry's Bastard". Publisher knew the book wouldn't sell with that god awful title so they made her change it to something flashier.

>>12896390
It has a real assassination tho

>>12896392
based

>Severian oils his sword and admires it's girth
>Silk beats off his ankle-wrap
Thank you Wolfe

Does Consider Phlebas count? There's a lot of stuff that takes place on and around a very large ship, if you stretch your mind it's basically a naval battle.

I just started shadowmarch. It’s comfy so far but hasn’t gotten good yet. Will it? I’m about 15% through.

What are some other classic dystopian sci fi like logans run?

Also i really liked space trilogy by cs lewis. Is there more similar stuff?

It didn't quite become as good as Throne of Glass but it's still a great series.

>>12896249
>Nothing made sense by the end of the book
Like what ? the things you cited make sense when you remember they're basically trying to survive the apocalypse of their time and are short of every resource.

>>12896348
>Assassins are basically the ultimate middle schooler bait
>Get surprised when every work of "assassin fiction" feels like it's written for that weird kid who sat in the back of class day dreaming about having super powers so he could kill all his bullies

>>12896635
>Shallan's Tantrums
>Apocalipse

Pick one mate.

>>12896645
The real Assassins were cool though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins

>>12896244
I agree that Way of Kings has a nice cover, but everything is crappy. Mistborn specially. It's so anime-y it hurts.

What's worse/more schlocky, a ujiversal language fantasy with their own etymology, or a universal language with no etymology? On one hand, calling some thousand year old location "dragon cave" or some shit is incredibly tacky, language evolves and it makes it feel less weighty, like a themepark attraction rather than a real place with historical weight. On the other hand, ancient words also feel tacky if everyone speaks the same language despite acknowledging the evolution of language and the world having borders and isolationist civs.
However at the same time not every story needs or is served by language barriers or the effort invested in unique pseudo languages, so what is the least tacky compromise? You could use real placenames, but it'd send mixed messages

>>12896882
People are so ignorant you could easily get away with ripping off some relatively obscure nations from Antiquity

anyone have any high fantasy comedy they'd care to recommend? I could do with a smile

What are the common criticisms of Rothfuss' Name of the Wind?

>read Valhalla Saga for muh vikings
>first 2 books are your average historical fiction with only cryptic god cameos, spooky voodoo witch animating a dead man which is depicted more as shoving spooky drugs up his nose
>third book goes full batshit crazy with a character who reveals himself as an agent of Loki and tries to start Ragnarok with a bunch of frost giants sent to him by Loki, with the final battle taking place on the Bifrost

wew lad

>>12896387
>Got really triggered when a dude in a fantasy world described something as a Pyrrhic victory
That's perfectly reasonable by you.

>>12897067
It upsets the morals of /sffg/

>>12897067
NotW is, unlike it's sequel, not horribly bad. It's slightly immature wishfulfillment featuring a borderline Gary Sue. The writing looks great at a first glance, and is probably the reason the book is so popular, but once you inspect it more closely you realize that it's filled with cliches and is more pretentious than poetic.

>>12897085
You one of these "people"?

>>12897222
What's wrong bud? You triggered by these people?

Do NOT read any of the other books. The first one is pretty solid. Kid realizes his dad is a lying bitch and wants to beat the shit out of demons and get stronger. Second book he's some 40 year old bald tattooed virgin and the whole book is about evil sand people doing nothing in the sand desert. Holy fuck what a colossal fuck up

>>12897241
If by triggered you mean disgusted then yes.

>>12897244
If only you knew just how bad it gets...

>>12897076
The Berserker trilogy from Robert Holdstock is apparently some good viking Sword & Sorcery.

How do I access this site to see what he is posting?
https://www.subscribestar.com/william-s-corner

>>12895469
>scifi is the genre where phd physicist and biologist write real world science in a fictional setting
It's cunts like you that made me stop reading scifi books. Almost everything new nowadays is about real world science with some politics thrown in, IN SPACE.
Where is all the speculative technology?
Where is people working out how to store data?
A lot of the science (tech) we have today is because somebody read about it as a child and grew up to make it a reality. There is none of that nowadays. I don't want deltaVs.

>>12896892
Careful there Mr Know-it-all. You wouldn't nt people jealous of your vast knowledge, now would you?

>>12897067
Name of the Wind had a lot of problems, but you gave it the benifit of the doubt and thought the author would address, or fix the said problems in the next book... Wise man's Fear was a total dumpster fire being fueled by the dried feces of a million unwashed heathens. It totally shit the bed. That is what upsets people. Nothing happened, wasted people's time.

>>12894512
I just want to read a book that makes me feel like I’m on an adventure(preferably solo) are there any good fantasy about just a guy wandering a fantasy world?

>>12897244
I need more books where daughters have to play mommy for their daddy.
>you're just playing hard to get, I knew you wanted it

>Welcome to April, which means Remnant is out, the newest Randi Darren book.
>Here's the normal questions-
>-Same universe: Yep!
>-KU: Yes
>-Audible: Andrea Parsneau/ ETA: Eventually
>-Book 2 and 3: Yep, we'll get there in time.

He doesn't say shit about Dungeons Desposed 2 audiobook. RREEEE
I bet this is a Dryad novel. Like we need more of those after Wild Wastes.

>>12895666
what are the best books youve found doing this. I like grimdark a lot but other than bakker I cant think of anything that really stands out as based. The first black company books are based too before it becomes poo in loo chronicles.

>>12895024
Based

>>12897244
I read about 3 books of this, every dude except for the mc and his joker friend end up being rapists.

other than cradle are any of will wights other series worth reading? I enjoyed cradle but dropped house of blades because I couldnt stand that main character and the whole thing felt very amateurish. I guess this makes sense as its his first book but I wasnt enjoying it. Are the sea and shadow books good?

>>12897611
Not really. It has some interesting concepts, but you can tell he was still finding his voice in these. Only the pirate PoV is stomach able, but that only gets you half the story.

>>12895469
>He thinks scifi is about SCIENCE
OHNONONONONO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

>>12897503
Are you ok with YA or do you need some mature metaphorical intellectual fantasy?

help, I'm addicted to a chinese isekai fantasy/scifi webnovel.

>>12896514
That's one hell of a stretch.

And if you're gonna contort yourself that far might as well go for the superior Use of Weapons.

Is there any book with a bigger party than The Wizard Knight?

>>12897679
>use of weapons
>no weapons are used

>>12896514
>consider phlebas
>phlebas isn't considered

>>12895666 (checked)
Based,what books you found doing this? i haven't read grimdark in a while and i want to read some

What happened to this guys fourth book? i havent seen or heard anything about it for a long time

>>12895666
that's a really good idea
it makes goodreads reviews useful

>>12897751
sometime this year. no eta. book 4 and either 1 or two spin off books.
hes writing them simultaniously and wants em out this year but other than that nothing.

>>12896596
Pleaserespond

>>12897503
Thomas Covenant ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

tfw the sequel series sounds fun but you need to finish the original one first

>>12897222
please tell me that's edited

>>12897946
dude look up the cuck comic

>>12895469
Fantasy is more popular because it's more relatable and is generally character driven and is about people overcoming obstacles and so on. Fantasy characters deal with "real" problems like becoming an adult or having to "do the right thing" and so on. That's partly why I think GoT style grimderp "political fantasy" has gotten so popular, the characters being a bunch of terrible jerks having to deal with other jerks is very relatable.

Scifi on the other hand is about exploring how technology affects people and societies. What if cloning was real, what if you had FTL communications but not FTL travel, could true communism work if russians weren't allowed to be involved, how would religion react to a alien race, "can a android be human? can a human be human?", stuff like that. Often it's a metaphor for real life issues, the cold war Polish film Sexmission for example presents itself as being a parody of radical feminism, but it's so blatantly about communism you wonder how the Soviet censors let it get released.

Anybody telling you that "science fiction should only be about SCIENCE" is either autistic or a moron. Likewise if they whine about politics.

>>12896190
A+ space combat but C-rank writing for everything else. The sequel series about aliens gets better in that regard but it's really a series you read for the space battles.

The "Lost Stars" spinoff has some of the most cringeworthy romance writing I've ever read, but OTOH I don't make a habit of reading romance fiction.

anyone who thinks fantasy is more popular is deluding themselves and/or excluding ya lol

it just doesn't hold up with the real numbers

Is there anything good?

>>12897998
no

>>12897979
Fantasy is more popular than sci-fi. Sci-fi's popularity is in the fucking gutter and has been for years. Wish I knew where to look to find that goddamn chart that shows how popular and unpopular the various genre fiction books are. Romance was the most popular and shit like hard sci-fi was the least popular.

>>12897962
i wish i hadn't

One of the few things that will take me out of any fantasy setting is the lack of technological advancement on extremely long time scales.

Our own world saw substantial changes, even in regards to things that, for example, the Westerosi would have recognized. How the Roman Army was structured, was equipped and fought changed considerably in just 500 years. The fighting forces of the Crusades were considerably different than those 400 years before and after. The tug of war between Infantry and Calvary for supremacy has gone back and forth many times.

There are barely any series that have managed to get it right without the author hand-waving it away.

>>12898116
i believe the westerosi timeline is intentionally distorted. like, they say their noble houses are thousands of years old, when everything points at them being no older than 1000 years. iirc, the andals only used bronze weapons when they arrived in westeros. so considering they're in the middle ages now, something similar to our XII century, they've had some important technological advancement.

>>12894548
It's awesome. Sequel isn't bad either, but more heavily influenced by Niven, and mises a chunk of the magic.

I'd you like it, try Ringworld, if you haven't already.

How did you find out about it?

>>12897751
Find out for yourself.
http://www.astlan.net/

>>12895269
Lady used to fuck Dominator so yeah she's a used up whore.

>>12894647
Go ahead, it's a good book.

>>12898343
She. Never. Fucked. Her. Husband.
Read the books or shut the fuck up.

>>12896596
>Also i really liked space trilogy by cs lewis. Is there more similar stuff?
I think it could be compared to pic related. Possibly also Son of Man by Silverberg.

>>12898466
Fuck I may be forced to actually read it if she's really pure.

>>12898343
Soulcatcher is actually the used up whore.

>>12896882
Calling something "Dragoncave" might not actually be much different than they did it historically, most place names were honestly just real simple.
A guy named John had a farm somewhere and a lot of people built their farms around him until they had a city? Johnstead
The town is built on a river and also on a main road? Riverway
Hell, nations did this too; England is literally just "Land of the English," Deutschland is just "Land der Deutschen."
If a town was built near a cave that had dragons, than the locals naming it "Dragoncave" wouldn't actually be much of a stretch, especially if they had no real documents or knowledge of any past names it might have had, stuff got renamed all the time too to suit the needs of the locals.

What's a good book about human augmentation/transhumanism in general? Either as the main focus or at least an important part of the plot.

/sffg/, I want to write right now but my body and mind are physically rejecting it

what do?

>>12899081
Drink alcohol

>>12899074
Superluminary

>>12899081
Sounds like you don't want to write

>>12899112
I want to want to write

>>12899115
If your mind and body don't want it then what part does?

>>12899123
I don't want to write, I want to write easily. I can write right now but I know I won't be able to do it easily

>>12899074
Schismatrix by Bruce Sterling

>>12898865
Just ignore autists. They expect fantasy books to follow reality and be fantastical at the same time.
They quibble over names of things in fantasy books when reality has much worse naming schemes.
I just want them to an hero.

>>12899074
blindsight

>>12898865
That's literally my point. But johnstead is a simple name from an older time, dragoncave sounds like it was simply named today, which maies it a tacky name for something thats supposed to be old. At the same time, if you have a universal language, archaic language doesn't make sense, so you have to compromise, what's less tacky, archaic names in a world where everyone shares the exact same dialect, or modern names for old places? The post had nothing to do with simplicity being a problem, idk how you interpreted it like that. And I get that if it was newly named that makes sense as a name,but I explicitly implied otherwise

>>12899168
Why does it matter to you? Faggot.

>>12899168
Just because something is fantasy doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have high standards.

>>12896882
>>12899242
>hat's worse/more schlocky, a ujiversal language fantasy with their own etymology, or a universal language with no etymology?
To answer you question: It depends of the nature of the setting and the tone of the story. Simple names work if you are going for something lighthearted or with a fairy tail feel to it, while weirder names fit better if you are going for something more serious. Just show restrain, so it doesn't sound like gibberish or like a 5 years old wrote it.

>>12899259
But the question has nothing to do with simple or weird... do you understand the problem with old names in a world with a universal dialect or are you just speaking past me?

>>12899273
You are asking which more schlocky, I am saying it depends of what you are going for.

>>12899337
I'm not asking wheter weird or simple is more shlocky, I'm asking whats more schlocky, archaic(not weird) names in a world with a universal dialect(how does the language modernise if the dialect is universal? If the language transforms, a universal dialect doesn't make sense if that's the case, but old placenames imply it) or modern names for old places with long history(inherently tacky and dissonant from readers perspective, where placenames age). I don't see how the degree of seriousness in the setting decides which is less stupid.
Also I realize that basically you're trying to be helpful and I appreciate it, so I'm sorry if I come off as dismissive.

Is there any slampiggie tag on sadpanda?
I just finished a book with a cushion for the pushin braphog telling her master he can destroy her by using her backdoor and my hardon isn't going away.

>>12899248
Because you and your kin come in here and cry. And it's fucking annoying.

>>12899254
Spoken like a true autist. Don't forget your fidget toy.

>>12897244
it went to shit when the girl got raped

>>12899382
>>>/h/

>>12899382
>I just finished a book with a cushion for the pushin braphog telling her master he can destroy her by using her backdoor and my hardon isn't going away.
Sauce?

>>12899378
i don't think it's reasonable to worry about things making sense in a world where everyone is using the same words for things. how would you even know a word is archaic? it's the word for the thing, the only word and it's always been. might make for an interesting story explaining how such a world could be possible.

>>12898153
Someone here mentioned it and then found it again on Goodreads as a recommended

>The Secret Lives of the Nine Negro Teeth of George Washington

I can only write when drunk. Am I the only one? It's like there is a block where I'm unable to get the words out when sober.

>>12899938
Drinking just lowers inhibitions, so you're probably just overly self conscious while writing and you need to get over yourself. Drinking helps you do that, at the cost of impairing coherent reasoning and judgement.

>>12899938
It's fine. You'll just end up like Jack Kerouac

>>12899983
It's more like I over analyse every sentance while sober but dgaf when drunk and just write.

>>12899100
>>12899158
>>12899186
Thanks lads, I'll check these out.

Is there a good fantasy book centered around The Good People?
You know, just a story about fairies stealing children, fucking with people, typical fairy things.

>>12900278
Lud-In-The-Mist

>>12900278
>fairies fucking with people
the wise man's fear

>>12899382
>Is there any slampiggie tag on sadpanda?
BBW,they don't just use it for hamplanets,they also use it for thicc girls and chubby girls (like otochichi or hyji)

>>12900278
Little, Big

>>12900278
The Broken Sword

>>12900282
Oh yeah, I've been meaning to start this, thanks for reminding me.

>>12900288
Not sure if I'm getting memed but even if I'm not, I'd prefer a standalone book.

>>12900339
Sounds interesting.
Seems a lot of people hate it but the people who like it REALLY like it so I'll give it a shot.

>>12900361
This is on my to-read list as well, didn't know fairies played an important role though. Thanks for pointing it out.

>>12900371
>didn't know fairies played an important role though.
Ehhh they really don't, but a major plot point of the story is an elf stealing a human baby and replacing it with a changeling. If you're specifically wanting to read about Tinkerbell type fairies then Broken Sword is gonna disappoint. You should read it anyways because it's great (though I read the 1971 version and not the original version).

>>12900395
I intend to read it anyway because I like Norse Mythology but yeah, right now I was asking about something along the lines of Celtic fairies.
Didn't know Broken Sword had several versions either, are they significantly different?

>>12897979
The only sci-fi that is still popular is basically just space fantasy.

are warhammer 40k books good? I watched cutscenes on youtube and thats all I know about it

>>12900430
>Didn't know Broken Sword had several versions either, are they significantly different?
Here's an article comparing the two. See which one tickles your fancy more:

https://www.blackgate.com/broken-in-two-poul-andersons-two-versions-of-the-broken-sword/

>>12900469
The questions are hopelessly subjective, but anyone reading this survey of Anderson’s changes will want to know: Which Broken Sword takes the best approach? Which version should a reader choose?

The 1971 changes have much to recommends them: the reduction of the Christian influence is a thematically shrewd edit, and the greatest improvement Anderson made. The trimming of excessive description often makes the story more readable, as the author intended. However, the 1954 original has a more savage rush that feels even more “pagan” than the objectively less Christian rewrite. It is a rougher, more verbose, occasionally illogical work, but has a freshness not apparent in the over-thought second take on the material. Ultimately, not enough is objectively “wrong” with the original to merit a full-scale reworking. Perhaps the Devil made Anderson do it: the one scene where Satan manipulates the story had to go, and the author decided to change the whole book along with that one crucial sequence while he was at it.

The 1971 Broken Sword stands as a superb fantasy work on its own, but the warts ‘n’ all 1954 original, written by a young boy who bore the same name as Grand Master Poul Anderson, stands higher.

>>12897021
Discworld

Tigtone if you feel like watching something instead

>>12900469
>>12900485
Based on the fragments that I can read in this article, I'd probably enjoy the 1954 version better. I like Tolkien so I'm used to (and mostly enjoy) wordy descriptions of things.

>>12900452
I've read some of the Horus Heresy books and I really liked it. Seemed really well rounded to me but I haven't read any other sf in years so. Sometimes feels like a sf Black Company since the perspective is similar.
But there are many books and quite some different authors so if you're interested just read something and even if a particular book or series isn't yours, as long as you Like the setting in general there is quite a diversity of stories.
I'd recommend looking up the most popular books or a guide where to start online and just read what tickles your fancy.

>>12900452
There's an immense amount of variance depending on the author. Dan Abnett, John French, and Chris Wraight are generally solid.

>>12900452
Caiaphas Cain is good, the character is commonly compared to Flashman but he's more "just a coward" than a actively terrible person.

The Eisenhorn/Ravenor stuff is great. Basically CSI: Inquisitors. I've heard that most of Dan Abnett's other books in the series are good.

>>12900452
I'd recommend the Gaunts Ghosts series if you want to read about grunts trying to survive in hell and Horus Heresy for Superhumans eating demons for breakfast.

'M dragun

Watch it.

>>12900430
There are Irish gods in Broken Sword

Has anyone read the expanse series? My friend got me into the show and in curious about giving the books a go

>>12894657
Noumenon

>>12895208
How did Bolshevik propaganda become the SFFG monthly read?

>>12900895
I've read all but the most recent (waiting for it to come out in the smaller paperback.) It's pretty good, but like most long-running series the quality declines sharply over time. It also bills itself as a hard sci-fi political thriller, but by about the fifth book in the series it has pretty much abandoned this in favour of a more traditional Star Wars space opera feel.

>>12900278
I decided to read a bunch of them and Johnathan Strange and Mr Norrell (the book not the television show) was by far the best of them (hint, most books with fae in it seem to be shite) and Lud in the Mist was the second best.

Good but not great: The Book of Atrix Wolfe

A long time ago I read a YA Peter Pan retelling called The Child Thief that was a cross between Berserk's Lost Children's Arc and the fucked up nightmare fuel children in the Coldfire Trilogy that was as metal as a fuck.

You're getting memed on with Rothfuss since that one is literally about elves fucking people (literally) for 90% of the novel.

reminder that fantasycucks are low IQ fags with no taste

>tfw trying to organize a calibre library of almost 30k books

>>12901358

So I got a bunch of terabytes of memory.
Give links for big book dumps.

>>12901437
Are there any good books with little girl protagonists?

>>12901428
What's the point of having 30k of books you never read?

>>12901483
i have a little script that downloads new books from irc automatically and puts it on my server. on which runs calibre-web for my entire houshold. were like 14 people and everyone likes to read.
usually i just use calibre-server to watch a download folder and automatically import the books to the the database. but my family has been complaining that they cant find shit properly cause the metadata is all fucked. so im trying to fix it right now. i mean its not like 30k books is that much. its like 8 gigs or so. thats nothing on my 64TB home server. so why not just accumulate a lot of books.
im also working on a webcrawler that checks mobilism for new threads and hands the links in the op post to jdownloader. kinda wonky right now since the login cookies are done in a weird way.
calibre-web is neat though.
https://github.com/janeczku/calibre-web

>>12901479
Black Jewels Trilogy

>>12895666
>Written by a woman but women don't like it
What kind of books are like this?

>>12901499
I guess you're old school /g/ that actually know what you're doing.
>single handedly makes a private poor man's kindle unlimited server for his house that autoupdates new releases

Really wish I had the autism needed to code. >tried python 10 years ago and never even got to the hello world stage
Maybe if I had something that I would have needed code to work it would have been enough of a motivator, but i could care less. I learned to use gimp because I used to meme people on chatango years ago, got better with every meme and figuring out how to work it. If I had some bot to maintain, or had to code to get access to books I probably would have been proficient with python by now. Would have probably learned other languages like C or C++ or java or ruby/pearl or a host of others. I love technology and the things you could do with it, but I'm lazy, unmotivated and procrastinating as fuck.

>>12901565
im not even good at programming. im working as webdev and usually dont deal with "real" programming even though i went to uni for it.
its really not that hard. theres xdcc libraries for python. i did it with javascript though. theres this neat little thing called node.js. it allows you to run javascript on a server rather than on the browser. gives you filesystem access and all kinds of neat things. also has its on package manager called npm where you can find packages for all kinds of things. though most are written shoddily to be honest.
i am also really just a webdev because of lazyness. though recently ive been picking up golang. which is fun to programm in.

if you are fimilar with software like couch potato or sonarr. there is something exactly like those for e- and audio-books. forgot the name of it but its on github and fairly actively developed.

>>12901588
found two actually one is a fork of sonarr
https://github.com/Gammarr/Gammarr
and the other is based on headphones.
https://github.com/DobyTang/LazyLibrarian

havent tried them personally but if they work like couhpotato or sickbeard then they will pretty much handle all the downloading for you but its probably either from usenet or torrent.

>introduce the Laconians
>make them intelligent, pragmatic, and ruthless
>followup book
>DUDE, LETS JUST MAKE ANTI-MATTER BOMBS AND BOMB THE OTHER DIMENSION
>WOW IT DIDNT WORK OUT SO GREAT LETS DO IT AGAIN

What the fuck?

>>12901701

what the f-
>google

Oh. It's the expanse. So, "The Stars My Destination" fanfiction. Fuck off.

>>12901588
>>12901612

Finished Black Company and found it very enjoyable, will definitely read the sequel. Not a fan of how Soulcatcher's end came about. Felt too abrupt, but I suppose not everything can have a grand setup. Darling being the White Rose was also incredibly obvious, but I'm just nitpicking at this point.

>>12901124
They banned the book.

>readlets are now finishing a book that was given to them literally a month ago
Embarrassing

>>12900452
The best games workshop writers are genuinely good, the okay ones are kinda mediocre and the worst are absolutely abhorrent

So really it's no different from scifi as a whole

Started reading the first book of Riyria Chronicles and it seems really basic. Am I just wasting my time?

>>12901824
Not all of us are NEETs, faggot

>>12901908
if you haven't read at least 26 books this year why are you here?

>tfw spent more time choosing books than reading it

>>12901908
What about you stop discussing hobbies you are only marginally interested in? If you are borderline illiterate you should spend your time reading; you can't afford to discuss the books.

>>12901908
I'm not a neet either. I work a 9-5, 5 days a week.
You are just a readlet.

Guys is Alice in Wonderland worth checking out? I really love the Disney flick when I was a kid

>>12902211
no but the doujins are good

>>12902211
it holds up better than most, but take it for what it is: a pedophile disguising his hatred of abstract mathematics as a bedtime story for the girl he's diddling

>>12901916

>>12902211
Absolutely, and the doujins are great.

better than Neuromancer

Just finished the Mistborn first trilogy, and I'm not sure what to read next. I'm new to Sanderson, his only other work I've read was Warbreaker. In fact, I've not been much of a fantasy reader at all, but a friend whose taste I've had occasion to approve recommended it, and I actually really liked it.
I know Alloy of Law is the immediate next step, but the setting- what seems to me from the little I've read to be like a noir western in 19th century america but with magic- doesn't appeal to me much for some reason. Also, I heard it was an experimental transitory book to a second trilogy in the mistborn series, so i was wondering if i should skip to that instead. Then there's the Stormlight Archives, and everything I've heard about it and the way it handles its magic system seems to me that I'll love it, but the back cover doesn't yield much in the way of information, and I'm not so sure I shoiuld start a new series instead of finishing Mistborn while I'm invested in it. I'm also waiting to read Cixin Liu's 'Three Body Problem' trilogy, and the premise of the Aliens in the Dark Forest and how to fight them seems very similar to that of Ruin in HoA, which I really loved.
So which do you guys think i should start reading?

>>12902389
Wrong on so many levels

>>12902411
I liked the second Mistborn series better than the first. If you are going to read it, I wouldn't skip Alloy of Law, it leads right into the "second trilogy."

>>12902411
Disregard Sanderson and start Three Body Problem immediately.

>>12902411
8/10 bait, actually thought you legitimately liked sanderfag (a hack) for a second.

>>12902309
books: something it is famously impossible to access without purchase

>>12901908
I used to average a book a week just from reading on t'bus

>>12902479
wow that seems a bit harsh, but I wouldn't know, the only other adult fantasy I've read is ASoIaF. I was being genuine, his writing seems pretty good to me, what am I missing? Could you recommend another author of dark fantasy with elaborated magic systems and complex plots who isn't "a hack"?

>>12902471
Yeah, I'm actually considering this the most,it seems darker and sharper, and I've only heard good things of it. Still, I've always been a person who usually finishes all the works of an author if i finish one of his books and like it, and given what i've heard about Liu, I don't think I would be doing it justice if I didn't read it wholeheartedly, as opposed to just something I read while reading another series.

>>12902467
But which did you like better, second mistborn or stormlight? and what about elantris?

i have a story idea that I think is gold but everyone tells me to work on one I know is shit because they think its more honest to who i am. should I listen?

>>12897979
do you mean more popular that scifi or more popular than it used to be? the latter is most definitely true, but you're probably right about the former

>>12902531
>author of dark fantasy
lmao

Why do the chinks magickyfy their philosophers? So many fantasy heroes using weaponised taoism. Why isn't the west writing about socratic batlle monks?

Demons are top tier antagonists

>>12902572
Depends on the type of demon

>>12902531
Read Bakker and don’t come back until you finish it

>>12902444
I haven't even finished it yet, but it's much more exciting than Neuromancer

Old school is best school.

>>12902594
checked him out, and his books' premises seem interesting, and his PhD in philosophy means they'll probably be more like what I'm accustomed to reading. I'll start reading right away.

>>12902554
well, it was dark for me. Like I said, I'm not much of a fantasy guy, and my image of the genre was always pre-teen fiction and fairytales. Mistborn has been the first series to suggest otherwise.

>>12901701
cringe
>>12901707
Based

>>12902531
>elaborated magic systems
W E W

>>12902538
Story ideas don't make a book good or bad.
You may be more keen to work on the idea you like more.
You might be paralyzed by fear of fucking it up instead.

>>12901219
>most books with fae in it seem to be shite
Yeah, that's why I figured I would ask for recommendations. I know /sffg/ likes its memes but overall I've gotten pretty good recommendations here.
>a cross between Berserk's Lost Children's Arc and the fucked up nightmare fuel children in the Coldfire Trilogy
That sounds kinda cool. Edgy I guess, but Berserk is pretty good despite being edgy.
Thanks for the suggestions m8, I'll probably start with Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell

Is there a book about fairy moms? if not i'll write it (it would be erotica tho)

I'm writing a generic fantasy cloack&dagger webnovel. where will I get most readers. Right now I'm not pulling many on three different platforms:
>Wordpress: nice but barren, no chance of discovery outside of shilling for it on CancerBook
>Webnovel com: Nothing but Isekai, translated Chinkshit and wannabe-chinkshit
>Inkitt com: 95% werewolf romping (the most common words in titles are "pack" and "alpha")
Even posting on the forums on these platforms doesn't draw in any people.

>>12902845
fuck it and start the /sffg/ exclusives

>>12902845
Royal Road

>>12902644
Shipwrecked!>TI

>>12902845
>Wordpress
it sucks after some time when you have lots of chapters.
royalroad is a good place. many indie authors started there. you can also try fictionpress.com. the waldo rabbit guy started there with the first novel.

>>12902863
>>12902898
agreed, royalroad is definitely the best option

>>12902853
I kinda started on 4chan by posting a few chapters of my Dwarf Fortress fanfiction.
>>12902898
>>12902863
Royal roads seems nice. thanks

>>12902845
Describing your own story as "generic" probably isn't helping.

>>12902531
>>12902531
I don't know about magic systems, but I think Promise of Blood is similar in style to Sanderson. I liked Elantris. It's a nice standalone book, maybe not as good as The Final Empire, but it's as good as Warbreaker.

this any good?
sounds like fun.

>>12902661
>>12902531
Try this depending on what you like.

any fantasy with roma/gypsy protags or settings

can only think of shit like name of the wind where it's immediately rendered irrelevant of the top of my head
pullman at least has a nice barge part in northern lights

>>12903371
Is any of that sibling incest? Asking for a friend.

>>12903373
Necroscope is some trash vampire books I read as a kid. Has gypsies and lots of gratuitous sex.

>>12903376
Not really. Sibling stuff is more towards the things outer lit reads.
These are usually with an older person in power, and a weaker younger person without.
Siblings is usually between equals trying to fin a little bit of comfort and belonging in a fucked up situation.

So, which category do you prefer:
High Fantasy: Another world with its own rules and map and races
Low Fantasy: our world with a layer of magic, mysticism and secrecy added

Or

High Fantasy: saving the world, fate, chosen ones, epic battles, dark lords
Low Fantasy: just going about daily business in a fantasy world, intrigue on a small scale, quests to save a village or maybe a VIP, voyages and adventures

Newfag reader here

Should I read LOTR and The Hobbit or is it overrated?

>>12903474
They're pretty foundational and certainly not overrated. If you're new you should give the Hobbit a try.

>>12903474
read them

>>12902194
>he doesn't work 8-5 and finish at 1 on friday

>>12903474
Lotr is utter shit. Read the hobbit, it's super comfy.

>>12903474
They are worth reading.

I'm a huge Phillip K. Dick fag and am running out of books from his collection. Where do I go from here, /lit/?

>>12903441
>High Fantasy: Another world with its own rules and map and races
This sounds like isekai or w/e the japs call it.

>Low Fantasy: our world with a layer of magic, mysticism and secrecy added
This is called urban fantasy
>Or
>High Fantasy: saving the world, fate, chosen ones, epic battles, dark lords
Normal fantasy that's written these days.

>Low Fantasy: just going about daily business in a fantasy world, intrigue on a small scale, quests to save a village or maybe a VIP, voyages and adventures
This is called slice of life.

>>12903518
Read The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick.

>>12903527
I got halfway through it and had to stop due to some life changes. I've been thinking about picking it up again but it's just fucking huge to fit in a backpack

>>12903501
I knew we had readlets in the general, but not mathlets.
You know that you work 41 hours a week, while I work 40 right?
Which is better?

>>12903525
>This sounds like isekai or w/e the japs call it.
but it basically that all fantasy with its own setting is

>This is called slice of life.
No, slice of life is simply daily life. "Adventures and voyages" are not daily life. The term low fantasy in this context merely refers to a much smaller scope of events, ones that have no worldchanging consequences.

>>12903441
first ones is the actual terms and although urban has taken off it's too specific to really replace low as a descriptor.
>>12903564
>>12903525

isekai is only when you're transported to another world, with books we usually see it called portal fantasy

>>12903525
>This sounds like isekai or w/e the japs call it.
I think that only applies if a person from our regular world gets transported magically to the magical world.

What does /sffg/ think of Berserk?

I know manga isn't literature, and I'm guessing manga is disliked here, but it's probably my favorite fantasy series.

THREADKNAVE
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>>12903649
way too dark for my taste. at times it feels like all the bad shit happens just because the author is edgy. its not bad though. as far as mango goes its fairly well paces overall and plot devices are relevant without being just mcguffins.

>>12902783
I say idea only because it has yet to be written. I have the plot broken down. its garbage. a mishmash of ideas that accurately represent my mind but make a terrible story

>>12903649
Peaked at lost children

>reading Temeraire
>book introduces a 12 year old redhead girl who rides dragons
christ dont let the loli weirdo read this

>>12903649
i heard its a lot like dark souls for whatever that is worth. i guess like anon above says its just hard for the sake of being hard

Thread slave we only have 4 pages of breathing room.

let it die for good this time. the genres are dead. the thread is dead. pottery

im the old thread slave, just this one time
>>12904313
>>12904313
>>12904313