/lit/ - Literature

>>12887653
His accent annoys me

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>>12887741
His fagcent?

I hope something happens to anyone who unironically calls him "Curtis Yarvin" to try and make him sound more academic. Ideally something bad or violent.
Also this guys video on Faulk was so fucking dishonest. Almost as cringeworthy as his refusal to refer to jews as a group in any context at all. Christian "rightwingers" with the exception of Fuentes are do intellectually lazy. They refuse to consider any philosophical idea outside of their religion.
>>12887741
It's put on to seem more intellectual.

The conversation with Godless Engineer is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sbOA9usp9U

>>12890130
>' ' Anti-Thesim ' '

>>12887653
pretty much the only intelligent, non-sperg right-wing YouTube personality right now. also the only one who is /lit/. Faulk and Last are okay, but they're not people who I would show to anyone who isn't a close friend.

>>12890113
>"Curtis Yarvin"
The Distributist isn't the same person as Mencius Moldbug you dumbass.
>with the exception of Fuentes
opinion discarded. explains the earlier retardation.

Fuentes is a NEET brainlet who threw away a promising career to regurgitate /pol/ memes and shit on other embarrassing /pol/bloggers in exchange for Hatreonbux to support his McDonalds habit. Absolutely pathetic. His Discord is full of mentally ill people and sexual predators.

>>12890206
Truediltom?

>>12890212
Gesundheit.

Is it weird that all the trad Christians all turns out to look like complete weakling cucks? Based Jay Dyer is the exception.

>>12890320
The Distributist looks like a big guy, out of shape maybe, but he's big and tall, have you even seen what he looks like in one his rare appearance videos? He's looks at least 6'0+ and if wanted he could be /fit/

>"Based" Jay Dyer
He's a tool in every sense of the word and you're probably one those lame Orthodorks who got meme'd into it.

>>12890206
Nick is performance artist. He doesn't believe in half the shit he says.

>>12890320
>Jay Dyer
Divine simplicity is bullshit because energy and shit. Aquinas BTFO'd I know what I'm talking about because I studied philosophy.

>>12891317
>only pretending to be retarded

>>12887741
how gay is he?

>>12891317
I've met him in college and used to have him as a friend on Facebook. He might be playing up his online persona, but it is coming from a genuine place. He is that much of an autist IRL.

>>12890135
trads can't into tech

>>12891300
>The Distributist looks like a big guy
for you

>>12891351

>>12891351
>>12891381
sorry, got confused between Land and Fuentes, kek

>>12891317
He really believes in what he says, he needs just more wisdom and reading. I can relate to him because I say a lot of dumb things as well but I'm grateful I don't have an online presence like he does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZLafrlAKQ
the Arktos podcast is good, even though i don't care so much about alt-righty stuff but they usually cover more meta-political themes than just sperging out about about ethnicities

Isn't he the guy who says white identity is disgusting, while Jewish identity is beautiful, and also has family that escaped Germany in WW2 but wont say why?

>>12887653
He's pretty smart, very wrong about Catholicism though. The church just doesn't have the capacity to stand up against the contemporary world in any meaningful way.

>>12891591
The Church is the only thing standing up to the modern bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq34OuIvoxg

>>12891644
the gay lobby literally controls the church

>>12891583
if that's what you took from his video on "whiteness", you are beyond retarded

>>12891687
Considering he also plays the "What IS German/French/British/Swedish/etc.?" card, it's a fair conclusion.

>>12891788
when did he do that?

I knew he was from these forsaken parts of the webs.. The only right wing youtuber I listen to probably because I got introduced to him via his critique of the alt-right series which was indeed the most honest I've encountered. I don't agree with him or Moldbug that the left mostly only dismantle the social rules, I think they also try to create and enforce new ones, so his left=entropy idea seems like a nonsense. I've been raised a catholic so I am very sceptical of his catholic solutions. I still attend the masses sometimes and observe my ultra catholic relatives and the community might be well meaning but everyone is also too concerned with the spectacle, victimhood and moralizing. Also I am pretty sure that hard work kinda goes against the principles of Catholicism, at least our priest rambles on and on about how people are too preoccupied. Also if you are going to claim some inherent social cohesion of Catholicism then I would like to hear your thoughts about nepotism because holy shit is it prevalent in this community. The Distributist also changed my mind on how powerful the left (at least social as opposed to the economic) is, having the institutions of education under control.

>>12892100
>nepotism
isn't that just loyalist attachments? either you have preferences for some people or you rely on pure market productivity measures in a market meritocracy

>>12892100
>I don't agree with him or Moldbug that the left mostly only dismantle the social rules, I think they also try to create and enforce new ones, so his left=entropy idea seems like a nonsense.
I'm not sure how Moldbug got to the idea that leftists are simultaneously the descendants of Puritans and an entropic force at the same time when Puritans were (and are) authoritarian social engineers with a rigid moral code that they expect everyone else to uphold, while having complete faith in their righteousness. I mean, it might be entropic by normal people's definition of entropy, but Progressives don't see it that way. I think reactionaries attributing everything to the Enlightenment or Freemasonry in the US are misguided as well, the First Great Awakening was probably more important in America than the Enlightenment.

>>12890206
Endeavour and Charlemagne are pretty based too

>>12890206
>the only one who is /lit/
You're forgetting Jay Dyer

>>12892875
Jay is based but makes money off this shit so he is too close to making the whole thing consumer spectacle / lifestyle / identity.

>>12891300
Agreed, I’ve met him.

I don’t think he’s as /lit/ as some think. He’s not clueless, but his reading is the standard boring shit like The Road, Dune, or LotR. I mentioned Gaddis to him once and he didn’t know who that was.

I find it funny (annoying) how when you're on the right, any serious thinker will be sandwiched between lefties who desperately want to establish them as below consideration and right wing spergs who will try their hardest to ascribe ill intent to that person and then dismiss them for their supposed jewishness.
These /pol/ schizos are unironically an absolute net negative to any movement they inhabit, 100% serious here, they would see more political success if they just didn't speak.

>>12890206
Truediltom, Joeldavis, Kenneth Brown, Appolonian Germ, JF Gariepy,

>>12891644
The Church has surrendered on literally every single issue of meaning since the 1960s. If the Catholic Church had any fucking balls it would be respectable, as of right now, it isn't.

>>12887653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MRKwlTZkfo&
Was it kino?

>>12893595
>JF

an absolute microbrain

>>12893608
The Church is slowly but surely getting its mojo back. You'll start to see some real shit once the Vatican 2 generation starts to die off in greater numbers. It might even start happening once Francis dies, depending on who the next pope is.

>>12893818
This. Pope Francis once said something along the lines of how he can't understand how young people are attracted to tradition. Old people are some of the greatest enemies of the CC.

>>12887653
>The Distributist.
does he actually believe/follow distributism or is he just stealing the name

>>12894110
No he doesn't really follow distributism because he thinks it wasn't developed fully enough or something.
Although he did say he was a distributist in his latest video, not sure why.

>>12887653
He is so fucking fat. I don't see why should I listen to a fat person, specially if he's a right winger.

>>12894691
He's not really fat he just looks like a middle aged computer nerd.

>>12894691
it's ok as long as they aren't manlets

I like Cultured Thug

I wish he was my dad.

>>12893771
it was pretty cringe, it's clear cuc.k has barely any knowledge of opposing points of view that go against his basic bitch political views.

>>12894938
i think that's just the left in general, too comfy in academic echo-chambers for too many decades to have any answers to mild pushback

>>12890212
Imagine actually thinking this plagiarizing zoomer is anything but a pseud

>>12893595
I have no idea who those other people are. But
>JF Gariepy
has turned out to be a complete sperg and an embarrassment. He did a great job destroying Kraut and Tea's amateur attack against race realism as a trained biologist, but he has no sense of self control either online or in his private life.

>>12887653
anon, is that you?

>>12895977
distributist seems too autistic in a boomer sense to understand the chans, the few times he tried to explain a meme has been embarrassing

>>12893818
>>12894063
Der Boomer is the enemy of everything good in the world.

>>12895899
yeah he is a bit of a sperg, but an intelligent guy overall

>>12896255
i think he relies to much in "le ebin nihilist french guy"-persona where you never take any strong position but laugh at people who do which is too comfortable

>>12890206
Epic reading comprehension retard, I never said that he was the same person. Christ imagine having this much of an autistic meltdown because you can't read.

>>12897391
i agree. he is not very consistent though, and consistently argues in a highly moralist way for individual rights. He romanticizes random, amoral processes like evolution and free market capitalism as a way of coping with his nihilism. He acknowledges their amoral nature but regards them as beautiful.

bumpo

It seems like there has been an upsurge of Moldbug popularity recently but maybe it's just me. I hope he writes some more now that he's done with Urbit

>>12899961
I think 2016-2018 pretty much vindicated Moldbug on:
>the sovereignty of civil service/media/academia/donor complex
>elections don't matter, the President is a figurehead who can't force them to do anything
>"right-wing" activism doesn't work
>the whole world will be voting in the US election soon enough

>>12894893
How old is he?

>>12900434
boomer, so around 30-40

>>12887653
I've been watching a lot of his videos and he seems bulletproof. Is there anything wrong with his thought process? Has he lost a debate yet?

>>12900536
he didn't do so well against JP, but it was more of a spergout than a debate

>>12900539
Who the fuck is JP?

>>12900536
Just wait until Destiny gets to him

>>12900552
bait

>>12900549
Jean-Francois Gariépy, some ironically alt-right french sperg

>>12890212
>let's glorify the latest book I read and change my mind about everything three months later
>this is something seen i generative anthroPOloGY
>how you like that forced emphasis?

>>12891348
for ten years!

Is it just me, or does it seem that these American traditionalists like distributist and fuentes do nothing more than romanticize the past and try to preserve status quo?

>>12901228
What is the status quo.

>>12901228
I don't know about Fuentes but why would you accuse the Distributist of doing that? He's always talking about building something new and about how we can't just merely turn back the clock.

>>12901228
This is the standard left wing reductionist dismissal to anything traditionalist and it's boring. Is being against gay marriage "preserving the status quo?" Give me a break.

>>12901252
The unelected people in power and current trends in culture.
>>12901276
I have watched only few videos from both of them. But it seems distributist is quite eager to criticize any dissident group which is not catholic reactionary type. Which is I'm ok with, but from few videos I watched I got the image that he just wants to turn clock backwards.

>>12901342
Turning the clock backwards is quite different from preserving the status quo. For that reason he describes himself as a reactionary rather then a conservative. However he does repeatedly emphasize the need to innovate on the past.

For me, it's BAP

Since were talking NRx/dissident right YouTube: does anyone here have a reading order for Thomas Carlyle?

He seems to come closest to the thought of modern NRx/dissident right circles.

The guy he's got coordinating livestreams for his canis society has the most unbearable babyish quality to his voice, it hurts.

>>12901379
Doesn't Moldbug have a short reading of Carlyle's ideas?
I think he establishes his ideas and reading of history quite well. I don't remember if he mentions which of Carlyle's writings he draws from, though.

>>12901394
>And again, don’t let this be your only introduction to Carlyle. To repeat the course: Chartism, then the Latter-Day Pamphlets, then Shooting Niagara, then the Occasional Discourse. If this doesn’t stretch your skull, nothing will.

from https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2009/07/why-carlyle-matters/

>>12901401
>a grown ass man dressing like an MGS character
Yikes

>>12901401
>>12901394
Big thanks, is Carlyle's The French Revolution worth reading as well? Jonathan Bowden made it a big part on his talk on Carlyle.

>>12901408
Isn't that pic from a Levi's add?
Or is it just a meme?
I legitimately don't know.

>>12901228
>comparing The Distributist with some alt-right sperg like Fuentes
embarrassing

>>12901425
https://twitter.com/parallaxoptics/status/1091633542864535553

>*blocks your path*

>>12901370
BRAPPP

Distributist use to have a discord server, it was up for a long time. It got taken down because some retards on it were supporting the Christchurch shooting but I use to be on there all the time so ive talked with him on many occasions.

The problem with the Traditionalist / right wing crowd is that there are only a small handful of worth while individuals. Everyone else is either an NPC groupie or just a degenerate pretending to ascribe to a traditional life. With Christianity in particular, you have a lot of white males who are social outcasts that only chose to be Christian because no one else wants them, almost like how fags and trannies are attracted to the left wing spaces.

Its obvious that Christianity is effectively an exhausted force that has no presence in our culture. Even most Christians have no idea what their religion is about. Distributist also does everything in his power to avoid race realism, which is yet another reason why his project will fail. Hes a good guy tho and one of the more interesting figures online.

>>12890212
based

>>12902143
>Its obvious that Christianity is effectively an exhausted force that has no presence in our culture.

Go to a Latin Mass packed with people and young families and get back to me.

>>12893595
>jf
opinion discarded,
please leave /lit/

>>12893595
>Truediltom
based ozzie

>>12890212
probably the smartest guy on the youtube sphere, and he's still a zoomer! he has so much potential

>>12902813
Doesn't that prove his point? You know, since mass usually consists of a sparse crowd of old people?

>>12887653
he btfo's athiests pretty easily, but he cucks out on race realism.
>if what the alt right says about race is true, then that undermines the entire liberal progressive worldview doesn't it?
and never goes farther when the retards he debates don't have an answer

>>12890130
it was so embarrassing. Atheists are basically bronys these days. max-cringe

>>12903402
The point is that right now, "authentic" Catholic culture is, actually, a bit of an underground culture. It's the outcasts and the weirdos who are rediscovering the ancient traditions of the Church. But like all underground cultures, it's small, but vibrant. And like all underground cultures, it will eventually burst into the mainstream. The weirdos will have their day.

>>12890212
I like that he introduced me to some new thinkers, but he just reads a script it's not that impressive.

>>12891644
the church hasn't been shit for decades now. The gays have purposefully infiltrated and blackmailed the last pope out of office. Now the current pope literally licks the feed of muslims. The entire church administration needs to be gassed with the kikes that have subverted them

>>12892100
>. I don't agree with him or Moldbug that the left mostly only dismantle the social rules
I don't think it's the "left". It's more like these ((groups)) use deconstruction to accelerate entropy for their (literal) satanic volcano demon god. The "rules" aren't constructs or order, they are laws to enforce further destruction. A law that forces barrier destruction such as forced tranny bull shit. They serve the dissolution of order even if there are (false) construct rules they put in place. It's to further the entropy

>>12895899
>>12902886
>>12893808
>not liking JF
I don't get it. He's literally /ourautist/ There is nothing not to like.

>>12892100
>I don't agree with him or Moldbug that the left mostly only dismantle the social rules, I think they also try to create and enforce new ones, so his left=entropy idea seems like a nonsense.
but the left's new rules have a clear aim to destroy previous structures, not to build something lasting and well engineered

>>12901228
>if we found something that works, but it was figured out over a year ago it's bad
This worship of "progressive change" will be the death of the leftists, but not before they destroy the rest of us.

>>12903555
i always thought that the breaking point of the progressive coalition would be muslims, but it's been funny this last year seeing men in dresses destroying all women and lesbian spaces, and there's nothing they can say against it

not sure how this is going to end

>>12903571
hopefully a real holocaust this time to get rid of one of the most prominent sources of destruction. The worst case scenario is currently accerlationism into the slow boil where we just accept the poz more and more until we are overrun.

>>12891300
>He's a tool in every sense of the word and you're probably one those lame Orthodorks who got meme'd into it.
I really feel for Catholics who can't stand Jay Dyer. Imagine a guy who makes videos like this just IQ mogging you and making a mockery of your entire worldview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1h8usK9UY

>>12903595
>Malthusian crisis starts
>whites become minority
>US collapses
>climate is fucking awful, storms everywhere
>Balkanization
>neocameralist microstates crop up in most urban centers
>transhumanist genetically engineered elite take over
all according to kaeikaku

>>12902143
>you have a lot of white males who are social outcasts that only chose to be Christian because no one else wants them
>Distributist also does everything in his power to avoid race realism
there's a reason why the Distributist does what he does

>>12890130
>People who debate ever

Peak Midwit

>>12903470
If race realism was true then how would it change his worldview?

I was heavily alt right until i lost a (non political) debate fucking hard, went back and did a deep dive into research into various issues so i could make sure i had data on hand in any future debate. I realized that a lot of the holocaust denial stuff was willful ignorance and lies, and that a lot of the supposed photoshops used to frame nazis were actually unironically made by stormfront. Then i moved onto transgenderism and realized that pretty much everything they said about trannies was wrong as well, as well as the out of control confirmation bias around Jews. There were a few other, smaller issues as well but those were the two that absolutely fucking repulsed me from that political faction.
I agree with pretty much everything the Distributist says but i just can't take a hard stance because I've realized how much of a gullible retard i am.

>>12904734
I agree on holocaust stuff but I have doubts about the trans movement. If it's caused by hormonal imbalances in prenatal development that would imply some people who call themselves trans misdiagnose. I fear the internet is sucking people into this trans subculture regardless of whether they experienced these factors. I also question whether the proper treatment might just be affirming your biological sex rather than imitation the other one. I also fear that the biological determinism is being used to justify behavior that is not justified.
But yeah I sympathize with a lot of the sort of racial existential dread that motivates a lot of that politics some of it is just dumb.

>>12904734
Trannies and Nazis are the same thing lad

>>12904877
I mean in terms of the proper treatment, transition really does seem to have the best outcome in terms of decreasing suicide. But I'm not gonna say there's literally nothing else that could be done.

>>12904930
But also i dislike the way they act as if they care if trannies kill themselves, i sure don't, and i know they don't either.

>>12904677
The idea of progressive society requires all men as blank slate and "equal" outcomes. All things that aren't equal are due to "privilege", racism, etc. Acknowledged racial differences undermines the entire premise.

>>12904734
>Then i moved onto transgenderism and realized that pretty much everything they said about trannies was wrong as well
literally everything about trannies is a disaster towards western civilization. I don't see what you must have "debunked"

>>12904930
>transition really does seem to have the best outcome in terms of decreasing suicide
What, dude you gotta stop listening to NPR studies. This is clearly not the case. Trannies are mentally ill people and exist as like .001% of the population. There is nothing in the trans movement today that is good for them or society. Theyre turning children into gay strippers. I think you are being subversive because nobody who did a "deep dive" into this could come away with anything positive to say about the entire ordeal.

>But also i dislike the way they act as if they care if trannies kill themselves, i sure don't, and i know they don't either.
this just in, liberals don't care about niggers either. People don't care about their outgroup. Even libshits just support these freaks to signal to their OWN GROUP.

>>12905401
Not him but the theory is that hormonal imbalances in prenatal development makes people experience gender disphoria. If it's biological who are you to tell them how they should act?
Additionally some studies seem to indicate transitioning decreases suicide.
It still creeps me out to say the least, It's a horrible illness

>>12905436
Shouldn't they all get blood tests and determine what sex they should really be? If they have XX chromosomes, they're women. If they have XY chromosomes, they're men. That would settle the matter, right?

I mean, I know there are genuine intersex people, but they're an extremely, extremely small percentage of the population, far smaller than even the transsexual population.

>>12905436
>If it's biological who are you to tell them how they should act?
If alcoholism is biological who are you to tell them how they should act?
If insert negative thing has biological causes who are you to tell them how they should act?


Something being biologically caused in part or in whole has no bearing on whether it should be encouraged/supported or not

>>12905397

But it doesn't undermine the Christian worldview. Even if some people turn out to be smarter then others all souls are equal in god's eyes. We are called to love the poor and downtrodden regardless of the reason for that poverty. The Breadpill is raceproof.

>>12891644
Google Vatican 2.0 and (((who))) installed it

>>12905408
You sound like a brainlet.

>>12894920
Does he still have a youtube channel after his second channel got immediately deleted?

>>12905397
irrelevant because Distributist is not a progressive

>>12901342
How the fuck is anything else than neoliberal globohomo kikepandering preserving the status quo?

>>12905436
>If it's biological who are you to tell them how they should act?
I have a biological impulse to kill people I deem bad for society and my family. Who's to tell me how I should act?

>>12905797
Holy shit read what I wrote. I said the distributists proposes this question to progressives and dones't pres the issue when the progs don't have an answer

> ctrl + f "john david ebert"
> no results
wtf is wrong with you guys, where's the appreciation for right-wing foucault? I mean the guy looks like the population of /lit/ so

>>12890212
he and dyer are big brained nibbas

>>12906718
it's still irrelevant to his worldview, which was the original question, because he is not a progressive

>>12906787
your comment is irrelevant because I said it's a critique of Distributist that he doesn't press the issue with prog guests. He dances around it and doesn't take a side. It's not a grey issue, it's a yes or a no.

>>12906871
why should he push his guests on something that is irrelevant to his worldview?

>>12891438
Reccing this
>>12906736
Ebert isn't really political in his videos even though he is a Spengler fanboy. I read The New Media Invasion a while back and I hope he'll write T H I C C er books in the future.

I would recommend Millerman Talks. He isn't really political either but close enough.

>>12904930
>>12903571

I'm glad you were able to break out of that ideological prison. Don't expect anyone ITT to listen to you, though. Sincere engagement with the right wing is a waste of time and energy that would be better spent reading.

The April Fool's prank made it clear that they're outnumbered here.

>>12887653
https://youtu.be/i6l8MFdTaPE

>>12907102
>Ebert isn't really political
This isn't /pol/ boi, we're talking about /lit/core youtube cultural thinkers in general, I'd definitely say Ebert is the most /lit/core guy on there, outside of maybe Dyer and Truediltom.

Plus he's a cultural critic, everything he says is implicitly political whether he likes it or not. But yeah I'm memeing when I call him right-wing, he's said himself he doesn't really like politics, he's sort of apolitical like Nietzsche, more of a spiritual/art thinker really. Whenever he has said something political is thoroughly cringy anyway like I remember him at one stage saying he's a 'card-carrying liberal' yeah dear god. Tho in fairness he has also said he sympathizes with the alt-right so fair enough for a jew.

>>12890212
Probably the smartest guy on youtube

>>12890113
Ghello Moldbugh

>>12890206
What was his career?

>>12900983
so true

>>12906710
Thats a different scenario. For trans people as I see it it's like, if they don't transition they kill themselves and if they do they kill themselves slightly less.If under some utilitarianism them transitioning is worse for society than it is good for them then yeah, stop them, but I doubt that.
It's just that they have different brains, you know? Like a schizophrenic or depressive or BPD, you can't just relate them to your life or another persons life because the structure of their brain is literally different.
I don't like fetishes and degeneracy, I think they are psychologically dangerous but trans people are basically born damaged, it might not be their fault and there might not be anything they can do. It concerns me that this sort of biological determinism might be getting people to renounce responsibility and put themselves in even worse positions but it's a complicated thing

>>12908231
Not only are 90%+ of modern "trans" people socially pressured into it for virtue signaling, (rapid onset gender dysphoria, etc) but the .0001% that are not would be better off not being indulged in their mental illness due to the damage it's doing to society. There is not a single case for pro trans propaganda.

>>12908231
I think many transsexuals transition because of AGP. also: the brain structure of psychopaths is different, the brain structure of junkies is different, etc. it doesn't mean we should feel sorry of them or go along with their antisocial habits.
>it might not be their fault
doesn't matter, honestly
doesn't matter.

>>12908519
Well my primary concern with trans people was always that they were harming themselves, not other people. We have a hell of a lot of problems with marriage related issues today but trans people are so rare we might as well try and take care of them, right?

>>12893595
Jean Francois 'AAI CHAIN FUUK WEEHMAN ACROS ZEE COASTLINE OF AMUREEKA' Gariepy.
Lol, of all the people you could've named you drop mister 'raping autistic people isn't rape, EETZ CALLED LUV'. the guy thought he could provide natal care because he helped give birth to a monkey once, he's a fucking literal moron and the sooner he gets an aneurysm the better.

>>12904900
Maybe the true centrism is the friends we make along the way

>>12907368
You sound like you're in an even greater ideological prison than i was.

>>12909924
No, because the indulging of their mental illness is incredibly detrimental to society. The .001% freaks are being used as a tool to subvert western civilization.