/lit/ - Literature

BIRDBOI COME BACK TO US

reminder that Lady is our girl, not Slutcatcher

>shitting out draft after draft for my shitty novel
>ended up making the main heroine a full blown dyke who slowly falls in love with the protagonist
>think it'd be an interesting character approach if done correctly of a lesbian who has to comes to terms that she falling in love with a guy
>already getting flak from people I've shown the draft to because it's apparently "queer erasure"
Those oversensitive shits can fuck right off. I'm not changing shit. I guarantee if it was the other way around of a straight person realizing that they may be gay then they'd love it.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F410;</div>

>>12864280
kek Wagner did the same exact thing in his novel Bloodstone.

THREADLY REMINDER NOT TO READ MALAZAN BECAUSE THERE IS NO RESOLUTION

>>12864280
Umm, it's problematic because it feeds into the homophobic stereotype about lesbians just being lesbians because they haven't met a real man

>>12864280
Fuck the haters anon<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x274C;</div>

>>12864280
I am not certain it would sell very well though. The dykes who would be interested in reading it because of the gayshit will be put off and drop it when they come into the part where the girl loses to the cock, and the normal people will avoid it since they will think that it's gay propaganda or sjw-agenda or whatever. There will be a minor audience, though, of fetishists that will enjoy it. Like us.

>>12864280
Then don't make it about a lesbian who goes straight, make it about a 'lesbian' that learns she is bisexual. Easy solution.

>>12864496
I'm going to read it just to spite you.

What distinguishes good world building from bad?

>>12864644
Believability, imo. Even in fantasy settings if the magic and stuff has very concrete and well defined roots then it's better written.

>>12864685
>Even in fantasy settings if the magic and stuff has very concrete and well defined roots then it's better written.
Jesus Christ... do zoomers really believe this shit?
>SUCKING ALL THE MYSTERY OUT OF MAGIC MAKES IT BETTER

>>12864696
I don't know I don't read children's fairy tales like lord of the rings Asimov's Foundation series really does it for me

>>12864713
>I don't know I don't read children's fairy tales like lord of the rings Asimov's Foundation series really does it for me

>>12864722
>SUCKING ALL THE MYSTERY OUT OF MAGIC

>>12864731
>LORD OF THE RINGS IS A CHILDREN'S FAIRY TALE

>I LOVE MAGIC SYSTEMS AND WORLD-BUILDING

>>12864644
Remember, kids: Worldbuilding kills.

>>12864644
Consistency, focus and depth. These last two are a bit at odds with each other, since focus means showing only what is relevant to the story (who the fuck gives a shit about a world map if they aren't ever going to leave the village), and depth means adding little details to story to give it more flavor. A good balance is what matters.

>>12864280
Have her raped to death in the next draft<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F436;</div>

>>12864722
All of those fellows do read children's fairy tales like lord of the rings Asimov's Foundation series , though, probably. And watch Star Wars and comic book movies too.

>>12864830
>he didn't get the memo that LotR is now too racist for nu-male soi boys to read

you're never going to finish that novel

>>12864855
I just finished a first draft last week! 126000 words.

>>12864889
How long did it take to write

>>12864644
Actually finishing the fucking story.

>>12864644
establishing believably without over explaining. Less 3 page blogs, and more slowly establishing a setting in offhand remarks.

>>12864889
Eight and a half months. It's the first long story I've completed and I'm pretty happy with it. Taking a break from it while some friends read the draft before I get wrist deep in revisions.

If any of you guys are working on something keep at it! Even if you only right a sentence a day. I believe in you!

>>12864914
>>12864956

Fucked up my reply

>>12864956
>right

Really selling myself here, woof

>>12864496
Yes there is nigger you just have to read the other novels

>>12865020
>YOU JUST HAVE TO KEEP READING FOREVER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>12864921
double digitlets seriously flexing like wtf

>>12864945
>slowly establishing a setting in offhand remarks
Show, don't tell!!

How do I write sci fi without dumping heaps of boring scientific shit?

>>12865020
you just have to read another 5000 pages series by another author bro

>>12865074
A 3 page description of setting material is telling not showing. Having characters make mention of elements of the setting in a natural manner is much closer to showing the reader something than it is to directly informing them of something via narrative voice. And show don't tell isn't ironclad anyway.

>>12865096
Why would you want to do that?

>>12865115
Shit, good point. i just assumed it would put people off

>>12864644
I think having a fleshed-out world in your mind already and then writing as if though the audience already knows how it works might be a good way to do it.

>>12865131
Hard sci-fi is incredibly unpopular in book form. It's one of the LEAST read fiction genres if not THE least read. If I knew where to look I'd post that chart showing book sales for the various fiction genres to show you. But my point being it doesn't matter how much "boring scientific shit" you're dumping into your story if it's hard sci-fi because almost no one will read it regardless.

Why anyone would ever recommend sword of truth as a legitimate novel is beyond me. I got halfway through it and had to stop it was such a steaming pile of garbage.

>>12864644
Good world-building: the world your story takes place in unfurls from the story itself.

Bad world-building: vice-versa.

Thoughts on the Science Fiction work InterWhistle?

https://youtu.be/foFo714tNFw
https://youtu.be/tadbYl3urvY
https://youtu.be/-UaY2hRF2sY

http://YouTube.com/InterWhistle
http://Twitter.com/InterWhistle

>>12865166
Who recommended it? It's a bad book meme at this point. Also, >rape

>>12864738
It is.. Do you even read?
He wrote that shit for his kids's bed time.

>>12865340
That was The Hobbit, retard.

Responding to the anon that asked me in last thread about the 10 Forgotten Realms books I have yet to own/collect physical copies of.

Avenger
Key of Stars
The Captive Flame
The Spectral Blaze
The Masked Witches
Prophet of the Dead
The Hand of the Hunter
The Ruin
The Sword Never Sleeps
Sword of the Gods (Abyssal Plague series but I still want to count it as part of the FG bibliography)

I have most all of the boxed gift set/collectors edition variants as well, but those are even tougher to find on sale so I dont count them as part of the collection 100%.

what are we reading this month?

>>12865388
Also asked for your top 10 best

What's some good fantasy with necromancers as villains?

>>12865430
Apologies - in order of appreciation.

Depths of Madness
Sojourn
Twilight Falling, Dawn of Night, Midnight's Mask
Elminster: Making of a Mage
The Silent Blade
The Halls of Stormweather
Cormyr: A Novel
Evermeet: Isle of the Elves

Is there a good IRC channel for audiobooks?

>>12865439
Conan: Road of Kings

>>12865074
>Show, don't tell!!
This really doesn't work in written form.

>>12865468
Nice list,have a like

>>12865580
Ironic upvoting is still upvoting.

like if this anon >>12865598
should kill himself.

>>12865415
Still in vote
Strawpoll : https://www.strawpoll.me/17723621

>>12864629
No because that'd kill her entire personal arc. She's not bisexual when we first meet her, she's a straight up dyke. The entire point is she starts falling for a guy and gets pretty messed up about it. Making her bisexual isn't a solution, it's an easy out.

>>12865759
So, assuming that this guy dies, she would never again look for female partners because he cured her gayness?

>>12863678
what the fuck is these shitty nominations? the only thing that looks readable is that translated russian novel

>>12865775
No, she would still mostly stick to women if the protagonist hypothetically died since that's what's she's been doing most of her life and yes at that point she would be considered bisexual. What I'm trying to say is she's introduced as a full on lesbian who doesn't even consider the possibility of being attracted to a guy.

>>12864280
Go for it. Lesbian conversion is my fetish and I'm sure there's a small group with a similar fetish who'd like that sort of thing.

>>12864547
>Umm
>it's problematic
Assuming you aren't being ironic, fuck off back to /r/fantasy and/or Goodreads.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F308;</div>

>>12865759
Literally how most people become bisexual my dude. She's still going to like girls, she'll just realize she likes boys too.

>>12865800
So a lesbian who finds out she is bisexual, just with a much more limited attraction to males than females. I really hope you make the protagonist reject this woman for a less mentally disturbed character.

>>12864547
upvoted and liked

>>12865834
ebin

>umm
go fucking kys

>>12865858
No really, a character who defines herself on how lesbian she is and gets disturbed when she falls in love with a man? How is that not mentally disturbed?

Sneaking in here to post some birdboi maps. What's your favorite country?

>>12865468
>Erevis Cale
>Cormyr
>Evermeet
Based
>Depths of Madness
Didn't know about that one,looks cool

>>12865940
Do the colors have a particualr meaning?

>>12865415
Godsfire<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F431;</div>

>>12866020
I don't think so, Birdboi didn't mention if it was.

Reminder that this comes out on VOD in a few days and all the reviews I've managed to find for it so far have been positive so I'm hoping for some new Sword & Sorcery kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKJB5K2iZZM

Cast your vote now!

Engine Summer,
by John Crowley. ~200 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1335568.Engine_Summer

We,
by Yevgeny Zamyatin. ~250 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/76171.We

Flowers for Algernon,
by Daniel Keyes. ~225 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36576608-flowers-for-algernon

Godsfire,
by Cynthia Felice. 250 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/967895.Godsfire

Tooth and Claw,
by Jo Walton. 300 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/344623.Tooth_and_Claw

Strawpoll: https://www.strawpoll.me/17723621


Disqualified:
>The Host
You cheeky fuck.
>The Once and Future King
Too long.
>The Shadow of What Was Lost
Marketed as first part of a trilogy, too long.
>The Black Prism
Too long and also >Brent Weeks.
>Seveneves
Too long.
>Starfish
Not stand-alone enough.
>Ringworld
Not stand-alone enough.
>Blood Song
Too long.
>Wool Omnibus
Too long, part of a series.
>The Wandering Inn
Way too long.

Now this is a long ass list of disqualified books. Partly because I decided to experiment and be anal about it and partly because the list of nominations is long. I'll write some guidelines and add them to the image before the next round.

>>12866112
>only 5 books to choose from<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F4A2;</div>

Anyone else reading Ian Mcdonald's moon trilogy?

>>12865940
What's this from?

>>12866160
>he doesnt know

>>12866160
>he doesnt know

>>12866160
>he is not informed

>>12864263
Wish I had a slutcatcher

>>12866160
>he lacks the knowledge

>>12866193
I wish i had a milfcatcher

>birdbois brown noses shitting up another thread
shocking

Explain me who is birdboi exactly and why anons shit on him.

>>12866207
no

>>12866207
we dont shit on him
those who shit on him is just jealous writefags because we dont give them the attention they wanted

>>12866160
>he doesn't know

>>12865940
Looks like Strangereal to me.

Fantasy or SF version of this please.

>>12864204
This. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU. Give me more shit.

>>12864263
Sanderson is our waifu.

>>12864280
Sounds based. Good luck getting published though. Sjw maffia and a few lower key kews own the book cartel.

>>12866239
>This. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU. Give me more shit.
He said he didn't want to bother people with constant random updates, so he doesn't post anywhere.

>>12864263
Wrong again, physician.

>>12866241
>He said he didn't want to bother people
thankfully, there are others to do the job for him!

>>12866241
>so he doesn't post anywhere.
He posts maps on /tg/, so he posts somewhere.

So who is birdboi exactly?

>>12866262
>he doesn't know

>>12866207
We shit on the fags that wont stop ringing his hole, he himself is alright.

>>12866262
A writefag who is extremely autistic and, if he has his way, will write a novel series that makes The Wheel of Time look like a short novella.

>>12866160
>this level of ignorance

>>12866160
>lacking the necessary knowledge to comprehend

>>12866262
The Continuation War has many cycles.

>>12866160
>he doesnt know

>>12866160
>missing the information

reading this right now, i probably missed something, how is the tenet holding them back?

What does /sffg/ think of book of the new sun?
I had one /lit/ fag say that I'd be the best literary experience of my life. I am one hundred pages in, and don't know what to think, apart from the fact that it is interesting.

>>12866397
lurk moar newfaggot

>>12866412
How much more? I've been on the chans for 5 years.

>>12866397
eat pringles while you're at it

>>12866416
>5 years.
you are even below newfag status at this point holy shit.

>>12866416
Anon meant that you should lurk these threads more.

>>12866438
I guess so.

How did the other anon k ow I was a newfag?

>>12866442
That book is discussed extremely frequently here. He meant that only a newfag would not be aware of /lit/'s and especially /sffg/'s opinions

>its an American author thinks their character is being really intelligent but it's only because they built their world upon a poor understanding of medieval Europe episode

>its him again

>>12866588
Seething yankoid

>>12866644
i live in a muslim shithole

>>12866557
Could you try making actual complaints about specific books instead of being a whiny passive-aggressive bitch?

>thread theme
Any good books with necromancy? Where its actually powerful, like a D3 necro for example instead of raising huge armies

>>12866668
i know a light novel where the necromancer is a one year old and very powerful
but im sure thats not what you want

>>12866668
overlord

>>12866703
He specifically asked for something good.

>>12866668
YA but the Abhorsen series has good necromancy. Don't bother after the first three books though.

>>12866696
Sounds funny tho
Name?
>>12866703
Could you outline what it's about?

>>12866710
mmo isekai garbo

>>12866710
>Sounds funny tho
>Name?
He's referring to Death Mage, and awful Isekai web novel.

>Could you outline what it's about?
Overlord is about a guy who gets stuck in a video game as his incredibly OP character who is a skeleton, it is also awful.

>>12866710
The Death Mage Who Doesn’t Want a Fourth Time

>>12866710
it is an isekai novel, a guy transported to the game world with his avatar (a skeleton)
he and his servants are very OP s..

>someone already wrote it
fuck

>>12866709
Seems interesting
>>12866714
>>12866717
Seems retarded
Seems like sao tier retarded power fantasies

>>12866727
no, this one is better than sao at least

>>12866737
Which is not a particularly hard feat.
Is it still based around being a game (and net turning chad) or just characters that were in a game now basically living in the real (game) world?

>>12866750
the game world become real but he is the only player there (i only watch the anime so idk what happens after), theres no stats or anything like that if i remember it right

>>12866651
See >>12866644

>>12866651
It's just a cringey yurokebab who's upset no good fantasy or sci-fi comes from his country.

>author doubles down on the cucking
Wolfeblade anon, I'm still going to kick your ass.

Putting cuckolding in anything other than NTR porn is NOT okay.

>>12864644
The setting should serve the story. If you value the setting over the story then you should at least choose a medium like games (digital or table top) that can buffer infodumps with interactivity to write for.

>>12866849
why are you still reading it

>>12866849
Is it hot?

What's everyone reading?

>>12866858
Still have 8 hours left and no more points on audible.
>>12866868
It's from the womans pov, so no.

>>12866873
To Green Angel Tower.
I fucking hate Miriamele.

>>12865834
Who hurt you anon?
Fucking a dyke till she wants to put on a dress and heels and craves cock is the thinking man fetish. Women are already crazy and pretend they are sane, getting one who admits to herself that she is crazy and is working towards fixing it is better.

>>12866879
Seems like you must be a total whore if cock is all you think about.

>>12866873
Rising Sun, Falling Skies: The Disastrous Java Sea Campaign of World War II

>>12866052
Reminder you are on /lit/
Back to your cunny containment >>>/tv/

>>12866905
Eat shit and go back to tumblr with the rest of you SJWs.

>>12866925
>MUH SAFE SPACE

>>12866873
American authors desperately trying and falling to create worlds based on medieval Europe.

>>12866160
>Devoid of imperative data

>>12866911
Dense

>>12866873
the two towers, blood meridian, some superman comics, the making of the atomic bomb (non-fiction)

>>12866873
A short history of nearly everything, and Crime & Punishment (Katz translation).

Thinking of picking up Leviathan's Wake for a reddit book club.

>>12866397
I didnt like it

>>12866930
>making a lesbian dyke crave dick somehow makes me a sjw
Do you know what sjw means and implies? Or are you just using as much meme phrases as possible.

>>12866932
I know you cunny fags want a safe space, but it isn't here. Shoo!<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F437;</div>

>>12866873
About to start Sword of the Lictor.
Why does Severian remind me about his memory so much? Is he worried I'll forget?

>>12866873
Nothing. Give me something about cool knights doing cool knight shit like quests and peasant women!

>>12866969
>for a reddit book club.
Proudly admits he uses leddit.

>>12866979
>Why does Severian remind me about his memory so much? Is he worried I'll forget?
Pay close attention to what he's talking about.

>>12866392
Finally found someone who read it on /lit/. Have you read the second part? The third part is due this December.

>>12866995
>>12866995
>Finally found someone who read it on /lit/
I told you months ago when you asked that I read it, but book 2 shit the bed. You argued that it didn't. I dropped it at book two and you said you will read book 3.

any sci-fi or fantasy novels with a thick blonde female character?

>>12866925
Now I'm gonna post it in every new thread. Jew mad?

>>12866984
Nice non-answer.

>>12867013
Wolfeblade

If I read a book about William Marshall written by a woman will it suck?

>>12866995
im 30% on the first book
dont spoil me

>>12867016
You have to know if you want to be banned or not for spamming off topic threads anon.

Fell for the GGK meme, what am I in for and will it be as bad as Wolfeblade?

>>12867140
melodrama

Remember that being a mommyfag requires high IQ.

>>12867166
at least you're not a feetfag

>>12867166
2d was a mistake
how are men supposed to be happy knowing that 3d will never even come close to such perfect renderings?
seriously, the skin, the eyes, the look, the way they carry themselves, the curves, the outfits, all of it can be made to absolutely perfectly match any man's tastes and preferences, while the best you can hope for in 3d is a handful of attributes matching what you'd like in a woman, and then rolling the dice on everything else and then on top of that adding in stuff like a personality that's random as well and the disgusting physical realities of a biological body like excretions and menstruation

it really gives me these deep existential feelings of bad luck and that men (not even mankind, but specifically MEN - males) are being tormented by some kind of deity

>>12867194
>feetfag
dear lord, is that the advanced form of footaggery?
jesus christ how degenerate.

>>12866285
>anon
>doing anything
>ever
I'll believe it when I see it.

>>12867203
The asshole traced over a real woman
Your dissatisfaction stems from the fact we all age. The fault lies in you.

>>12867380
You lied about your age.

Did you lie about sex?

>>12866849
I'm glad I didn't start reading that.

>>12867380
it's my fault for aging?

>>12866982
And a book club. It's like a double fag. Only doubles can kill him.

>>12866849
What's the context? Is it actual cuckshit?

>>12867386
For rejecting the fact of aging.

>>12867382
I'm not a liar, asshole

>>12866052
His armor looks like shit

>>12866397
It is very good. If it doesn't works for you that is also fine, it isn't for everybody.

>>12866979
He hides information from the reader just as he does to the other characters.

>>12867420
*isn't for brainlets

>>12867380
>>12867401
>discord tranny

>>12867428
Stop insulting people, it doesn't make you anymore intelligent or likable.

>>12867386
It's your fault for replying to tripfags, which only encourages them. As if these threads didn't have enough faggotry to deal with anyway.

>>12867437
>stop insulting people

>>12866750
It's shit don't bother.

So how many "writers" do we have now? In the past few months I know there was that rabbit guy who overstayed his welcome when he shilled his book in every thread. But at the very least he got a book out. And now there's birdboi and I think there's the one mommy incest guy.

>>12866854
I mean Spin was still passable, though it's not cucking but NTR (i.e. MC pining after some dumb slut that married some dumb redneck, he was never in a relationship with her).

>>12867469
Those aren't writers, it's fan fiction for an audience of three. Birdboi doesn't even count. He'll spend years of his autistic life planning out the minutiae of his world and won't write a single word.

>>12866841
>cringey
Cringe

>>12867487
>audience of three
Don't know about Birdboy, but mommyfags are abundant as it's a relatively thriving fetish even though most who are into it wouldn't outright admit for obvious reasons.

Hugo noms are out:

>Best Novel
>The Calculating Stars, by Mary Robinette Kowal (Tor)
>Record of a Spaceborn Few, by Becky Chambers (Hodder & Stoughton / Harper Voyager)
>Revenant Gun, by Yoon Ha Lee (Solaris)
>Space Opera, by Catherynne M. Valente (Saga)
>Spinning Silver, by Naomi Novik (Del Rey / Macmillan)
>Trail of Lightning, by Rebecca Roanhorse (Saga)


Space Opera's good but it's basically just a lesser Pratchett style one joke book. I don't get the Ninefox and sequels hype, that series never clicked for me.
Spinning Silver's an eh retelling of a fairy tale, a bunch have done it better.
Trail of Lightning is really fun but I'm surprised it's got awards prestige behind it and the Wayfarers book is probably the best of the bunch.

I expect Calculating Stars will win, it's basically light alt-history but it ticks all the boxes and isn't held down by being a sequel


The Novellas category actually has way more quality and awardsy books than the novels this year

>>12867388

>>12867420
Its not that I don't like it. I just started it, so I have no opinion. Seems good for now though.

>>12867512
>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2019/04/2019-hugo-award-1944-retro-hugo-award-finalists/#more-3388

Okay, so across the top six categories:
>Best Novel
>Best Novella
>Best Novelette
>Best Short Story
>Best Series
>Best Related Work

I looked at the authors (taking the first author on the few that have multiple authors) and got the following:
>Total authors: 36 - six categories each with six nominations, taking first author for works with multiple
>Female: 28/36 (77.78%)
>Male: 8/36 (22.22%)
>White males: 2/36 (5.55%)

Is it just that men, in particular white men, aren't writing SF any more or is there some kind of selection bias for the nominations?

>asking the obvious

>>12867562
fiction as a whole has way more female readers and writers than male, this has been a trend for like 30 years now

>>12867501
Step mum is completely different.

>>12867512
Yoon's book was shit compared to the first although I loved the characters. Ideas are introduced way too late and the plot was unsatisfying /m/wise.

Spinning Silver was pretty bad conceptually. Novik writes stories but doesn't really bring anything new or interesting to the table. Her work is inferior to a whole bunch of authors such as GGK, Susanna Clarke and Patricia McKillip. Katherine Arden, a recent author, writes better than Novik does with her eyes closed. And I believe I have read fanfics written by Novik that were bounds more creative and more interesting than these soulless commercialised sellout fairy tale retellings.

Of the recent new authors, only Ada Palmer, Curtis Craddock, Bradley P Beaulieu and SA Chakraborty have impressed me and nary a mention of these authors anywhere. And Jasper Fforde clearly deserves to win something if he was to get off his ass and write a Shades of Grey sequel.

I might try Kowal's book but by the gods has scifi gone stagnant.

>>12867501
Just look at all those milf and incest books on the Amazon best seller lists ... oh, wait.

>>12867401
So you didn’t lie about the age?

>>12867512
> Revenant Gun
Weakest of the trilogy by far. Guess it was only nominated because the other two were.
> Spinning Silver
It wasn't bad but I'm not sure I'd call it award worthy.
> Trail of Lightning
Just started on this but it's not really grabbing me yet. We'll see how it goes.

Not read the rest.

>>12867562
> Is it just that men, in particular white men, aren't writing SF any more
Name some that deserve to be on the list. I can't.

>>12866397
Was the random soldier guy actually Jonas though? Still bugs me after a few years.

>>12867442
Liked

>>12867612
>Name some that deserve to be on the list. I can't.
I don't know. I don't read scifi or fantasy.

>>12867194
>>12867206
Feetfags are the worst.

>>12867093

>>12867203
Anime characters look like Asians.

Asians have the biggest tits ever so it makes sense. Their tits are frequently completely out of proportion to their body, that’s why anime is the way it is. :3

Chinese and Japanese women are fucking unbelievable sometimes. I personally have not known anyone with a big breasted asian gf but that would be nice :D

>>12867380
Back to your discord, tranny-bitch

>>12867512
>female writers

Djeez louizee

>>12867635
Thick arsed asian qts are the real gem lad. A slimly proportioned asian chick but with a giant, plump booty is the pinnacle of the female form to which all others are compared and ultimately fall short of.

>>12867612
Scifi is on the verge of a fucking death spiral.

My favourite recent scifi books are House of Suns and the Prefect novels by Alistair Reynolds, the Terra Ignota books by Ada Palmer and Early Riser by Jasper Fforde. Also the Freeze Frame Revolution by Watts and Murderbot for something short.

Years go by and I find nothing good but shit all. Where the fuck are the authors worthy of classics?

>>12867512
Are you the same fag that posts the hugo nom results every year for the past 4 years?

>>12867639
Meh. To each their own

>>12867639
Asians are overrated.

>>12867401
Hey. Here’s what I think: I think you lied about your age and you lied about having sex. Tell me though, did you lie about both or neither or just one?

>>12867645
no

>>12867652
Then did you post it last year?

>>12867663
no

>>12867643
> Scifi is on the verge of a fucking death spiral.
I have to agree but remember that that fiction is a reflection of the era. Those classics you talk about were written in a time of a hope and space travel, eagerly looking towards the future. Now people want escapism and look inwards so it's no surprise genre's like fantasy and litrpg are popular. Sci-fi could see it's return.

>>12866112
>that jump overnight
I guess we know what book the euros are voting for

>>12867562
>or is there some kind of selection bias for the nominations

:^)

>>12867750
>it’s an American anon thinks Europeans share a hive mind episode

>>12867800
Time zones sonny boy

>>12867800
Eurotrash are all pathetic glassy eyed drones. Bow to your hegemon. Bow to America you effeminate cucks.

>>12867512
>5 out of 6 are women
The Hugos are a joke.

>>12867917
What books would you pick to nominate then?

>>12867562
>Is it just that men, in particular white men, aren't writing SF any more or is there some kind of selection bias for the nominations?
The latter

>>12867927
Empire of Silence

>>12867959
Well, hello there newfriend.
Well actually you are kind of right, it's shit enough to win a Hugo, probably would have won one if the writer was a chink female or something.

>>12867959
Yikes.

>>12867988
I don't get why you call me a newfriend, I'm the guy you asked the question. It took me a while to answer because I checked the books I read to see which one were from 2018, the only good one (I mean, Hugo worth it) was that one.
>>12867998
Yeah well you name a good sci fi book from 2018 so we can yike you.

>>12867959
lmao

>>12868001
> name a good sci fi book from 2018
I can't, that's exactly the problem. Sci-fi is in a slump right now. Last good one I read was Children of Time but that was back in 2016 iirc.

>>12864198
How about a necromancer as the main character. He's a physician by trade and brings patients back alive with his abilities, while trying to remain inconspicuous, because obviously such 'evil' magic is forbidden by law.

>>12868001
I didn't ask you the question, that was someone else. I called you new friend because Empire of Silence is mentioned quite often on this general and even the casual lurker who pays attentions knows it's a shitty rip off of Name of the Wind, which itself is quite terrible, and Dune.
There's not one original bit of writing in the entire book. The hack of an author, not being satisfied with just stealing the plot lines actually directly lifted passages from those books he ripped off.

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2438706777?book_show_action=false&from_review_page=1

I feel like Im making a mistake by not making my villain the rat king equivalent of Kyubey (its not the only thing), but it took so long for me to wrangle a plot together I'm not sure I want to tear this one up to fix it

>>12864889
Congrats anon, good luck with revisions

>>12867166
High T post

>>12867639
>Thick arsed asian qts are the real gem lad
This. Don't get me wrong, I've been to Japan three times already and there are some pretty unattractive women there in general despite what some weebs think, but on the flip side when you see a cute or attractive one they really stick out. Bonus points if they have that thick build with built thighs and whatnot.

The bad news is unless you're an attractive and relatively successful Japanese, White or a lighter shade of Mediterranean guy, you don't have a sliver of a chance with the better looking girls. It's why all the gaijin teachers and Military personnel there settle for the fuglies because that's the highest they can go in the food chain.

>>12867512
>Modern Hugo Awards
haha

About to start reading this, what am I in for?

>>12867613
Maybe. I always assumed it was.

>>12866884
That's because she's a stupid spoiled cunt whose level of narcissism could shock most Aes Sedai.

>>12867582
Man, Shades of Grey really needs to continue. I thought it was way better than Thursday Next, but I have basically given up hope at this point.

What is some good authentic feeling historical fantasy. Doesn't have to be a European setting, anything will do.

>>12867750
>it's an amerclap anon thinking there is only Europe and Klapistan in the World.

>>12868386
Sarantine Mosaic & Warlord Chronicles.

>>12868405
>

>>12868223
Wonder and despair

Hello. I am birdboi. I have been told by a friend that people here are posting about me. Please do not do so too much, it is not good for the thread. I stopped posting because the speed of updates would not be conducive to discussion.

Thank you everyone for understanding.

>>12866995
I enjoyed the second part more than the first looking forward to part three but it’s gonna be a tough trilogy to satisfyingly end

>>12868510
Fuck off.

>>12868334
As true as it can be.

>>12867512
Wow the bias is real. Sad puppies were right

>>12868567
sad puppies nominated even worse shit lol

I want to try out BotNS for the meme but I have a deep hatred for WASP fantasy because the only thing they can do is inject the substrate of their retarded version of christianism into everything.
Should I still try it out?

>>12868664
>wasp
>author is catholic
gee I wonder if it'll be similar

>>12867512
>Mary, Becky, Yoon ha, Catherynne, Naomi, Rebecca

>>12868510
Hey Birdboi, what are your political/religious leanings. I need to determine how WOKE you are.

>>12868677
all burgers are wasps even when they're catholic tbf senpai

>>12867571
>>12867562
It may be more than selection bias at the award level. Publishers and agents are probably less interested in picking up books written by white men. They have some sort of need to compensate for what they imagine are the errors of the past.

>>12868510
Based birdboi telling birdboifags to fuck off

>>12868135
Thanks dude. Its gonna be an interesting experience I think.

do we have a discord

>>12869513

Get the fuck out.

>>12867413
So does your face.

>>12869513
We use teamspeak here

>>12867497
Seethe.

This is it
Right Here
you're living it

What are some fantasy with fantasy?

>>12867643
>Scifi is on the verge of a fucking death spiral.
Son, sci-fi, in terms of popularity, died DECADES ago because of the hard sci-fi fags and the writers who only wanted to use the genre as a soapbox.

>>12867800
>lol what's the EU?

>>12867643

the expanse is pretty good.

>>12869581
Words anon, choose your words correctly to convey meaning.

>>12869641
I'll convey my dick in your mouth.

>>12869581
You living a fulfilling life AND being happily married to a loyal wife with 3 kids.

>>12869718
If you like. I could use a tooth-pick right now.

Anyone have an ebook for Holy Sister by Mark Lawerence?

>>12869752
Nice.

I thought the ending would have Itkovian (the Redeemer) embracing the Crippled God and being the only person/thing that made a genuine effort to not judge the Crippled God, and that would cease the hostilities and meddling and so on and so forth. But nah, nothing with Itkovian or Seerdomin being a goddamn savage, and we got nothing personnel instead

>>12868149
Thicc asians are the best.

BIRDBOI IS POSTING RIGHT NOW ON /TG/

Is Kvothe a Gary Stu, or is he a professional bullshitter telling lies?

>>12869963
You do realise you come across almost as autistic as birdboi. Stalker level of obession.

>>12870017
Birdboi doesn't even come off as that autistic.

Can anyone recommend me some dark fantasy, preferably with horror elements, that is more atmospheric and not just violent/edgy?

>>12870130
Night Winds by Karl Edward Wagner.

>>12870130
Worms of the Earth by Robert E. Howard and then it's sequel Legion from the Shadows by Karl Edward Wagner.

No one cares about birdboi

>>12870185
Birdboi himself even asks people to stop giving a shit.

>>12870185
He'll vanish into obscurity like all the other would be writers on here.

>>12870130
kind of reminds me of the Temple of Time from Zelda

>>12866160
>404 intel not found

>>12866873
first game of thrones

>>12870182
>>12870169
Looks spooky enough, thanks.

>>12868599
Nah.

>>12868113
But does it also have cucking?

>>12867512
Does anyone besides the nominees even give a shit about hugo anymore?

>>12870250
The Throne of Bones by Brian McNaughton is another good horror fantasy collection, but it does have a fair amount of edginess in some of the stories though it's tolerable because there's plenty of black humor as well.

>>12868108
>He's a physician by trade and brings patients back alive with his abilities
As long as it's not some sort of faggy urban fantasy, it might work.

>>12869584
>this
Scifi was the exploration of what ifs. Now we have a bunch of delta Vs, compression vs vectored thrust and a bunch of other stuff.

why didn't you faggots tell me how fucking good the Halo books are?

>>12870652
I never read them

>writing a fantasy story
>never read nor watched LOTR
>have this idea that I absolutely CANNOT read our watch them or else my writing will take too much influence from them and fade into the background with every other fantasy book
Am I justified in thinking this way, or am I being too cautious given how many other things already take inspiration from LOTR? I'm trying to figure out if I'd gain more than I'd lose from reading or watching the series.

>>12870652
I wouldn't even play the games, why would I read a novelization of the franchise?

Thread Slave hurry Up so monthly reading anon can give us the winner.

THREAD SLAVE!

>>12870715
It's cute you think you're writing something original in the first place. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret: the best writers are voracious readers and ALL of them were influenced to some degree by writers they liked.

>>12870715
>never read nor watched LOTR
same

>>12870748
Maybe I didn't say it quite right. I fully understand that writers take influence from things they've read. That's precisely why I'm afraid of reading an author that almost every Fantasy writer is influenced by.

>>12870733
We need more voters to right this injustice first

>>12870766
If you're writing epic fantasy then it's going to be influenced by Tolkien if you've read him or not because ALL epic fantasy post-LOTR is influenced by it to some degree. But it depends on what type of fantasy you're writing and what the story is.

I'M NOT YOUR SLAVE

new thread
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>>12871114
get fucked

>>12871116
Last post

>>12866709
>tfw Sabriel feels less like a YA series than most non-YA fantasy books that come out these days

i win

>>12871211
You will never win

>>12867613
I don't think either outcome would have changed the situation.

Winning.

>>12871443
no

>>12866873
Once and future king