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my friend read like one bertrand russell book and since then he keeps trying to drop wisdom bombs on me about why working or trying to achieve anything is worthless and its perfectly acceptable and virtuous to be a 28 year old neet because he has some quotes from a dead old man. he just keeps rambling about how im a victim of slave morality passed down from kings to plebs while he farms mounts on wow and leaves his unwashed piss bowl in clear sight when I visit his room.

I'm not really into philosophy but I can't fathom that this old dead dude actually shares the neet sentiment and is still as respected as he apparently is so I'm assuming my friend is twisting words or misinterpreting or cherry picking quotes? Is my friend a brainlet or am I ignorant? I thought philosophy was supposed to elevate you. Can someone tell me what to say to cast him back into the shadow of embarrassment where he belongs?

this is 100% a sincere thread btw.

>> No.12849292

explain how he is wrong in any way

>> No.12849295

>>12849273
Whack that hack

>> No.12849298
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>>12849292
i cant and thats why im so upset anon

>> No.12849325

>>12849273
What the fuck? I love Bertrand Russell now!

>> No.12849402

“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.”

-actually a Buckminster Fuller quote but, find a fault

>> No.12849432

>>12849273
Some people truly desire a life that you would find repulsive. I can tell you that it's not aimlessness or laziness that motivates *some* hardcore gamers and, apart from violence, waiting until they get bored is your only choice if you want them to stop. I had cultivated a balanced amphetamine habit and arranged my life around raiding at one time, so I get it. It's about challenging yourself daily and striving for peak performance and no amount of "you're just a nerd on a computer" can overcome the immediate reality of you succeeding where others, often those saying that to you, fail.
Pissing in bottles is pure pragmatism and I kept doing it long after I stopped playing video games.
Anyway, I haven't read Russell and I have no idea what he says on the matter. I'm just here to clear up your misconception about NEETs not being virtuous.

>> No.12849486

>>12849432
Fairly certain that every gamer I know is chronically bored. Video games just stop being fun after a while, and it becomes more about the path of least resistance rather than pure enjoyment.

We're going to have a couple generations of very depressed and socially inept people in a decade or so.

>> No.12849603

>>12849432

thats super cool and I sort of semi agree with you but I'm honestly just asking if bertie really is the neets bannerman.

>> No.12849620

>>12849402
I can't find a fault, your quote seems to be advocating people pursue some sort of passion and self actualisation instead of slaving away for a salary for the sake of it, I agree with this. But I don't believe that people who live their lives in their bedrooms playing videogames and masturbating for 14 hours a day would generally choose that life if they were capable of knowing any other. People like >>12849432
come out with this rhetoric a lot, I've heard it many times, but I've been surrounded by neets for the past 5 years and have been one myself and I know of only one who is actually content and not clearly riddled with severe mental illness.

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>> No.12849622

>>12849603
Read his "In Praise of Idleness"

>> No.12849659

>>12849486
Suicide rates will at least quadruple in 30 years.

>> No.12849675

>>12849273
just tell him thats all a subjective ethical system, and doesn't mean shit if you hold self respect as a value

>> No.12849679

>>12849486
>>12849603
I like to mix some bait into my sincerity for my amusement. It's not really a misconception, but rather a stereotype and it has some truth to it. I can't help you with Bertie though, he wasn't an influence.
>>12849620
Never said I wasn't mentally ill, just that I wasn't aimless or lazy. What I was doing was far from normal. I don't necessarily find it wrong, just unsustainable if you want to live long, which I knew even then and didn't intend to do.