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>Jordan Peterson is a ha-

>> No.12844630

he's actually a smart guy. people like to meme him for the lulz or they're secretly butthurt by how smart he is.

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>>12844621
-ck

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>>12844621
g

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>>12844621
ndsome fella

>> No.12844642

>>12844634
chompsky is a hack, though. generative grammar is a pseudoscience

>> No.12844645

>>12844642
It's a linguistic theory, nobody ever claimed it was science.

>> No.12844647

>>12844621
> personality psychology

lmaooooooo

>> No.12844729

>>12844641
He's right in this case though

>> No.12844749

>>12844635
Axiom is a self-evident claim, how in the fuck is God self-evident?

>> No.12844759

>>12844621
>>12844630
ah, yes, high citation levels on personality theory papers, peak intelligence. what you pseuds never understand is that EVERY level of this man is cringeworthy. If he didnt remotely shill his political views y’all would dismiss him like any other charlatan academic.

>> No.12844764

>>12844634
>>12844621
The more prolific your academic resume in 2019, the less credible you are.
This goes against both chumpsky and peterson.
And Ben? Ben Shapiro shouldn't even be on that list. I dislike chump and peterson but they aren't mid-range intelligence (relative brainlets) like shapiro. Anyone who expresses even the slightest praise for him, I know right away is a brainlet impressed by someone with poor oratory skills, made up only by a nasally fast talking voice and condescending tone which they perceive is smart.

>> No.12844785

>>12844764
>Bruh, it's current year

>> No.12844791

>>12844621
>Psychology is philosophy/history/sociology/...
You do know most of the stuff people are annoyed about him are related to him bullshitting outside his own field, and using his academic position for authority on said matters barely relating to said position? Yes, he is a cited professor of psychology, but his hackness comes from elsewhere.

>> No.12844808

>>12844785
This was not always the case. The quantity of academic papers has increased substantially. The quality has only declined.

>> No.12844815

>>12844808
If you say so

>> No.12844818

>>12844641
He is completely right in this case.

>> No.12844833

>>12844641
Looks like that website is full of redditors.

>> No.12844837

>>12844729
>>12844818
Please.

>> No.12844845

>>12844837
It's still atheism if you worship the flesh

>> No.12844853

>>12844764
>Academic study is bad, only intellectual dark web good.
Kill yourself

>> No.12844854

>>12844791
this, this and this

>> No.12844859

>>12844635
Wow, that's not at all the point of Godel's theorems, holy shit.

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>>12844845
>belief system predicated on neopagan ideals and the existence of a cosmic hierarchy that for some reason favors this specific group of mammals over that one
>the founders of the nazi movement included literal occultists
>atheist doctrine
Please.

>> No.12844891

>>12844749
>Axiom is a self-evident claim

No

>> No.12844905

>>12844621
he is a hack
lots of hack academics know how to get their names on mediocre papers. it doesn't even mean he contributed to it necessarily

>> No.12844997

>>12844853
Not what I said.

>> No.12845009

>>12844997
>Not what I said.
Oh sorry that I slightly misunderstood you oh great thought leader.
Fuck off, you're literally of the opinion that someone who is a prolific and often quoted writer isn't to be trusted. You're nothing but an anti-intellectual wanker.

>> No.12845024

>>12844759
>y’all
faggot

>> No.12845056

>>12844645
linguistics is (supposed to be) a science brainlet

>> No.12845066

>>12844879
>dude these guys were totally le committed neopagans and not just larping
Please.

>> No.12845078

>>12844879
Yeah they needed to pay lip service to existing power structures, it's called politics. For hitler everything was done in service of the state their only god is muh clay

>> No.12845620

>>12844641
>reddit

>> No.12845642

y'all losers at least finish and get a phD before talking shit about someone lmao

>> No.12845646

>>12844621
>Jordan Peterson is a ha-
-bibi

>> No.12845648

>>12844621
What's your point? Just because someone has knowledge in a particular field does not make their claims outside this field authoritative. Peterson's philosophical claims are patently laughable, that's why he's a hack.

>> No.12845776

>>12844791
Exactly

>> No.12845805

>>12844642
what a cuck.
his ideas helped develop modern computer science, brainlet.

>> No.12845810

>>12845805
desperate humanitiesfag cope

>> No.12845813

>>12845805
can a computer produce beautiful poetry though? Thought not.

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>>12845009
Credentials and trophies don't make somebody an "intellectual," you slobbering superficial child. Contrary to progressive doctrine, no amount of authority and praise and trophies can transform a stupid person with stupid ideas into a smart person with good ideas. I have no idea how anybody on the planet can still pretend to themselves that academic institutions are objective arbiters of knowledge and truth and education. It's a scam, you colossal fucking retard, and it's not even a secret

"We are smart and great because we say we are smart and great. Anybody who questions our magnificent brains is stupid, for we are smart and we have determined that our challengers are stupid."

This refrain, alongside a hilarious level of credential inflation, are very common among unstable regimes trying to hold onto power

>> No.12845847

>>12845813

library of babel has done it already, technically. if you want something resulting from a less random way of producing poetry, I can see it happening sooner than later, but the fact that we can already kind of do that is impressive.

>>12845810
you sound like the kids who were in the CS program I graduated from. they failed, and it was glorious seeing them break down. perfect way to handle that stupid STEMjerk.

>> No.12845858

>>12845847
oh god you’re a csfag, it’s worse than I thought

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>>12845842
lmao to smrt 4 skool

>> No.12845896

>>12845872
damn... never thought it that way before...

You know what, after seeing you put it that way, I think you're probably right anon. You are smart for getting good boy pats on the bottom from teacher. You made a very thoughtful point (and it came from such a very good and very smart boy too!)

>> No.12845906

>>12845842
You absolute buffoon. You imply that a system of intellectualism that has existed for centuries with countless other intellectuals, measured by other intellectuals, measuring the intellectualism and quality of other pieces of work is not only anti-intellectual because they have the gall to enforce their own claims of intellectualism, but also can not be trusted. You are a fool. You say to us that there is no way to measure how trustworthy something is because any way that has been established becomes used by the elite? Childish. Simply childish.

>> No.12845930

>>12844759
Faggy post

>> No.12846007

>>12845906
Our modern "system of intellectualism" (extraordinarily stupid term) has absolutely no relationship to the academic institutions and cultures of previous centuries whatsoever. The Harvard of 1800 is a 100% different institution from the Harvard of 2019. There is no link between the Harvards but money and shared resources, employed by each separate institution in radically different ways.

There has never in the history of civilization been a higher education system like this one. It is totally corrupt at every single level and cannot be trusted because it provides absolutely no distinction between a valuable credential and an unvaluable one--the fact that elites abuse this property isn't what makes it untrustworthy. Elite abuse is of course very visible and obvious to even the most obtuse and invested of observers, but elite abuse is only a secondary effect and natural consequence of the system's illegitimacy.

Please stop using the term "intellectual": it is a meaningless word that signifies nothing but a person who has invested plenty of money and time and social capital into a pyramid scheme. You are probably an "intellectual." For-profit university students are "intellectuals." All of the system's dependents are "intellectuals." It is an incredibly pretentious word that's disconnected from reality and intellect entirely.

>> No.12846008

>>12844621
Was his last publication actually 2007? That's pathetic.
>>12844647
Journal of personality and social psych is the most respected in that field, iirc, funny how he's not publishing in clinical journals, which tend to have more rigorous standards.
>>12844791
>>12845648
this is true
>>12845642
I'm almost done with mine in Neuroscience.

>> No.12846011

>>12844759
>y’all
go back

>> No.12846013

>>12846008
Oh just noticed it's ordered by most citations.

>> No.12846025

>>12844749
>Axiom is a self-evident claim

Imagine being this retarded. How the fuck do you not understand what an axiom is?

>> No.12846027

>>12844634
Three Jewish men

>> No.12846035

>>12844641
lol he is actually right. the ideology was far above any religious pretending

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>>12844759
>y'all
Something... something must be done about the chapos...

>> No.12846044

>>12845024
Stay mad Yankee cuck

>> No.12846049

>>12846042
I’m from the South dumbass. Literally never entertained Chapo. The fact that you faggots jump to that before you do a regional dialect shows your information diet.

>> No.12846056

>>12845930
All this cuckboy ressentiment. Sorry Papa Peterson ain’t cutting it for you.

>> No.12846061

>>12846049
literally seething

>> No.12846062

>>12846049
If you don't want to be called a faggot then you have stop talking like a wigger. Your place of origin is inconsequential to me; what's important is that you talk like a wigger and it's wrong.

>> No.12846072

>>12846061
More like the overman laughing at the proles. Keep responding faggot.

>> No.12846079

>>12846072
not that anon, retarded larper

>> No.12846083

>>12846062
>a regional dialect is wrong
kys faggot. take your prescriptive bullshit and go shove it up your ass. if you unironically equate a Southern dialect with wiggerdom you are literally retarded. go tell that to Mark Twain or William Faulkner.

>> No.12846088

>>12844634
I own all 9 books.

Come at me.

>> No.12846090

>>12846079
wtf are you even saying you autistic ass

>> No.12846100

>>12846088
You're over a hundred dollars poorer with nothing to show for it.

>> No.12846111

>>12846083
Southerners are the biggest wiggers of all 2bh

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>>12845896
lol cope

>> No.12846183

>>12845842
name a few people you think are smart

>> No.12846410

>>12846183
James Joyce
Terence Tao
Bobby Fischer
D.W. Griffith
Wernher von Braun
My dog

>> No.12846428

>>12846410
>lists people highly decorated with credentials and trophies
hmm really activated my almonds anon

>> No.12846462

>>12846027
Peterson is just married to a Jew not a real one himself

>> No.12846464

>>12846011
ὑμεῖς

>> No.12846475

>>12844621
Doesn’t make him any less wrong where he’s wrong (*cough* *cough* Postmodernism)

>> No.12846482

>>12844641
le -36 downvotes

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>>12844621
>a life of mediocre academic output preceded by a cult following of idiots
ya, looks like a hack to me

>> No.12846529

>>12846428
The credentials and trophies are totally secondary to their genius though. I never said that the system never credentials deserving people; I said that the system doesn't distinguish between valuable and non-valuable credentials and so its credentials are meaningless. Also these people largely weren't alive to see the modern higher education system, and their "trophies" are largely posthumous.

Joyce never won the Nobel Prize. He was famously censored and rejected when he first tried to publish. D.W. Griffith never won Best Director or any other genius credentials and is largely a figure of hate today. He fucking invented film grammar and nobody cares. Wernher von Braun was single-handedly responsible for the moon landing but his role in that is considered a dirty secret by the USA. No Nobel for him of course (thank you, totally objective Nobel selection committee). My dog is very smart and he's never received a certificate for knowing how to open trash cans by pushing down on the foot lever. Chess credentials are not dictated by higher education or a body of observers; they are dictated by performance. Either you win or you lose. Same deal with mathematics. I'm more inclined to respect credentials in those fields because they're largely disconnected from influence and corruption. This is totally different from universities as a whole though, because they are completely fraudulent institutions based around prestige and politicking rather than performance.

>> No.12846537

>>12846529
>heh those don't count because they're esteemed by people whose beliefs run contrary to mine, also it's probably because of the jews influence

lmao kys polmarm

>> No.12846543

>>12846494
Ah yes, the contrarian of contrarians. A true genius

>> No.12846559

>>12844634
koestler is below chomsky in every statistic because he isnt mass prescribed to undergrads of various disciplines despite being a much more worthwhile thinker

>> No.12846574

When did yall go from a redneck to a faggy libtard thing?

>> No.12846589

>>12846537
Don't remember mentioning "Jewish influence" or "people whose beliefs run contrary to mine." Seems kind of odd to bring them up, especially since I actually included a Jew in my list of smart people.

Maybe if you dump ten years of your life towards getting an expensive PhD in "not being a colossal fag" you will be able to convince your peers and family that you are not a colossal fag, but you and I will always know the truth: you very much are a colossal faggot, and no finely decorated piece of paper from some prestigious university will ever change that objective truth. Other non-fags might receive that same distinction, but your fundamental faggish nature will always be there no matter how much money and time you spend towards acquiring that paper

>> No.12846595

>>12846494
But enough about Chomsky

>> No.12846605

>>12846589
cope harder lmao

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>>12846595
Chomsky's work speaks for itself.

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>>12846605
>cope harder lmao

>> No.12846646

>>12846628
if you want to at least appear smart try doing something more than throwing your hands up and going "i dunno corruption lol, watch Birth of a Nation"

You seem to think you're pontificating deep truths when in reality it's just one big cope.

>> No.12846650

>>12846595
He posted a picture of Shapiro with Peterson, dumbass

>> No.12846657

>>12846614
This is exactly my point! Chomsky is smart because he is smart. His intellect is self-evident; his credentials are totally meaningless compared to his work and the subsequent work derived from it.

>> No.12846664

>>12846657
I wasn't talking to you

>> No.12846677

>>12846650
oof, someone needs to lay off the sauce

>> No.12846684

>>12846646
There is no further need for this conversation. I have intellectually demolished you, my friend, and you are struggling to come to terms with you failure at the hands of your anonymous, uncredentialed intellectual superior. Like Chomsky before me, my intellect is self-evident. I am your intellectual superior because I am your intellectual superior. You reaction to my superiority is irrelevant. Good-bye! Good-bye!

>> No.12846688

>>12846684
now this is cope

>> No.12846689

>>12846664
If you don't want to hear my thoughts then you need to stop posting in my thread.

>> No.12846697

>>12846677
That’s a joke dumbass

I realized you were making a joke so I made a better one. Ffs

>> No.12846698

>>12846111
No they're not. Midwesterners are.

>> No.12846706

>>12846697
Excuse me! I am the poster who owned you by saying "But enough about Chomsky." I actually ignored your subsequent reply and the reply to it, as they were all unclear and not funny compared to my delicately precisioned own. I am now replying to own you yet again

>> No.12846768

>>12844791
How is he in any way authoritative? Anybody can call him out if one of the facts he derives from another discipline to support his argument is false and he always seems to make it clear when he’s speaking outside of what he’s directly familiar with. Are people required to just shut up about any other topic besides their profession once they find themselves in a position of public respect?

>> No.12846770

>>12844853
It's obvious you didnt finish reading retard

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>>12846697
not you, benny boi

>> No.12846778

personality psych is an entire discipline of hacks

>> No.12846779

>>12844905
Cope. Dont even like jbp but you sound like a bitter faggot

>> No.12846787

>>12846779
it's not cope if it's true

>> No.12846788

>>12845842
Citations arent trophies you fucking moron
Are you just gonna dismiss the concept of credibility to feel like an ultra skeptic?

>> No.12846805

>>12846007
Stop shoving adjectives into every sentence you autistic twat

>> No.12846810

>>12846072
>refers to himself an an over man while having a dispute on an autistic forum for faggots
Come on man

>> No.12846819

>>12846787
But you would never honestly question that, would you you coping faggot?

>> No.12846839

>>12846819
question what, exactly?

>> No.12846842

>>12846787
>if its true
>doesnt realize that his own biased conjectures dont count as fact
Its cope for sure you bitter moron

>> No.12846851

>>12846839
Question whether or not your unfounded claim that jbp barely contributed to many of the studies being cited is true or not. You're obviously coping because you have no idea if it's true or not but choose to believe it is for no reason other than it's more convenient to believe it

>> No.12846865

>>12846851
>claim that jbp barely contributed to many of the studies being cited is true or not.
Nobody claimed that

>> No.12846900

>>12845805
Helping the development of any medium that ultimately leads to the development of AI and singularity is very harmful to mankind though. Nothing to be proud of.

>> No.12846901

>>12846865
Close enough, keep coping

>> No.12846908

>>12846865
>lots of hack academics know how to get their names on mediocre papers. it doesn't even mean he contributed to it necessarily
>it doesn't even mean he contributed to it necessarily
Then explain this. Unless you're a different person at this point the nvm

>> No.12846909

>>12846901
please point out where exactly that claim is made :)

>> No.12846913

>>12846900
>my cynical prediction of the future with humanity an AI must be correct
>therefore your counter example doesn’t count
Ur dumb, kid.

>> No.12846916

>>12846909
>>12846908
>>12844905

>> No.12846917

>>12846908
how is that a claim that he had no contribution...?

>> No.12846925

>>12844641
>comes up with Aryan origin theory for Germany, which is at odds with the Genesis
>LARPs as Pagans and Hindus
>throws priests into concentration camps
b-b-but they were Christian guys!!!

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>>12846916
>>12846917

>> No.12846927

>>12846917
>its not like he contributed to those papers necessarily
If that's not what you meant, what did you mean?

>> No.12846932

>>12846909
Do you fucking know what “close enough” means
>lots of hack academics know how to get their names on mediocre papers. it doesn't even mean he contributed to it necessarily
I’m also not the anon who claimed you said that. It doesn’t matter either way because the innacuracy is superficial and you’re coping.

>> No.12846938

>>12846925
they weren't christian, but could you really consider them atheistic? Is it even possible to be a spiritual atheistic?

>> No.12846945

>>12845863
I remember that thread.
>*charges you $2000 for a rug*
heh, nothing personnel kid

>> No.12846946

>>12846932
How am I coping when it's you loading meaning into that statement?

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>>12846805

>> No.12846956

>>12846946
>It's not like he contributed necessarily
>I didnt mean that he might not have contributed all that much!
Cope

>> No.12846958

>>12846938
They were definitely not Christian unless you count throwing out platitudes meant to persuade Christians into obeying state diktats to be proof of Christian belief. It's hard to take the Nazis as having any sincere spiritual beliefs outside of the belief that the Nazi state needed to be expanded by any means necessary, using any justification possible.

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>>12846956
>>I didnt mean that he might not have contributed all that much!

No, I'll totally admit to saying that :)

>> No.12846982

>>12846962
Then you're coping because you have no way to prove that but prefer to believe it because you dont like the guy. It's literally that easy to take a step back and say
>yeah I guess that is a bit of a coping mechanism from me

>> No.12846991

>>12846946
Because you’re now playing a stupid game of symmantics attempting to distract away from your original point which was that having a large number of citations doesn’t make someone academically credible. You most likely either believe or pretend to believe that in order to cope with whatever JBP has you feeling insecure about.

>> No.12846997

>>12846962
>I'll admit to saying that
>after denying that I said it and having to be directly quoted to be reminded that I was coping when I said it

>> No.12846998

>>12844642

His linguistic work is valid. It's Chomsky's more popular political scribblings that are bullshit. He's the kind of moron who thinks that Obama was some kind of far right wing radical for even having an active foreign policy.

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>>12844642
JBP is fine when he's in his field of study, but most of the shit he talks about isn't psychology proper, it's nuclear takes on women in the workplace or variations of rightwing talking points

>chomsky is a hack
yikes

>> No.12847017

>>12846982
You seem to be very upset at the mere idea that your e-daddy charlatan may not be entirely on the level lmao

>>12846991
No, you're ignoring semantics because you have no argument

>>12846997
Didn't deny stating the possibility that he didn't contribute, but never claimed it was more than that.

>> No.12847025

>>12846998
>thinks that Obama was some kind of far right wing radical

I mean, is he wrong?

>> No.12847032

>>12844642
explain the subjacency principle, just so we can be sure that you actually understand generative grammar

>> No.12847033

>>12846991
and the only thing JBP has me insecure about is the moronic idiocy he engenders

>> No.12847062

>>12847017
>no, you’re ignoring symmantics because you have no argument
Now you’re just baiting because you’ve realized you’ve embarrassed yourself. Stop posting.

>> No.12847063

>>12847017
>Didn't deny stating the possibility that he didn't contribute,
>>12846909
>please point out where exactly that claim is made :)
>>12846865
>claim that jbp barely contributed to many of the studies being cited is true or not.
>Nobody claimed that

You were coping, got called out on it, pretended like you never said those things, got directly quoted, admitted to saying that but never denying that you you denied saying it, and are now being directly quoted showing the times you denied saying it

>> No.12847072

>>12845056
Science is not the only kind of knowledge - not even popper would claim that - so the question if this is scientific is not that important.

>> No.12847078

>>12847017
>upset
>not just calling someone out for insane levels of cope
I'm only mad because you seem to think that you havent established a world view where the people you dont like actually have no accomplishments and that the ones they do have were actually none of their doing. It's annoying and your a fsggot for that. I fucking despise jbp, but I hate coping faggots all the same

>> No.12847079

>>12845009
Not what I said either.

>> No.12847092

>>12847078
this
Anon doesn’t understand the difference between anger and contempt.

>> No.12847095

>>12847063
>you don't actually dislike jbp's layman rambling you just cope in light of his massive intellect!

The state of reddit

>> No.12847100

>>12847033
You’re ostentatious way of typing says otherwise

>> No.12847106

>>12844891
>>12846025
the definition of axiom is quite literally a self-evident claim. Imagine being this butthurt that Peterson was wrong about something.

>> No.12847109

>>12847092
And jbp chode lickers don't know the difference between scientific logic and bullshit postering

>> No.12847116

>>12847100
>ostentatious
No, I just read books...

>> No.12847123

>>12847095
More cope. Attributing things I've never said in order to make yourself feel right? Nice!
I said youre coping because you WANT to believe that he didnt eqrn the citations hes received, not because you disagreed with him you fucking dense moron

>> No.12847127

>>12847109
>scientific logic
>chooses to believe that jbp didnt contribute to any of the studies he cited on simply because it makes him feel better
Cope

>> No.12847129

>>12847100
Your* Im a degenerate phoneposter

>> No.12847130

>>12847123
>you WANT to believe that he didnt eqrn the citations hes received
No it just wouldn't surprise me and that still doesn't validate his pathetic forays outside of his specialty

>> No.12847135

>>12847095
bruh you lost just give it up

>> No.12847136

>>12844634
who are the 10,000 citing jordan peterson?

>> No.12847143

>>12847129
That's on you lol

>> No.12847145

>>12847116
>I’ve read books
Yeah and nobody gives a fuck. Don’t shove unnecessary words into your sentence to prove your’re literate, it makes you look insecure.

>> No.12847146

>>12847136

Sociology academics criticizing his work for its lack of care or rigor

>> No.12847148

>>12847135
Oh no now those poor misled souls are doomed to suffer pseudery unironically!

>> No.12847152

>>12847130
I'm not excusing anything outside of the studies you fucking idiot. Quote me where I said that jbp is actually really smart and is right about everything.
In fact it's the reason that the sources hes cited on are within his foray that make me more likely to believe he contributed. Unlike you who takes what he does outside his area of expertise as evidence that within his field he also sucks.

You're coping

>> No.12847159

>>12847143
Yes?

>> No.12847169

>>12847145
>hurr don't be using them fancy teachin words you sound like a fag

Idiocracy getting closer and closer to reality by the day!

>> No.12847172

>>12847159
Glad we agree

>> No.12847176

>>12847152
Hey believe what you want no skin off my nose

>> No.12847177

>>12844641
>wah a person with actual credentials thought about his claim but i know more because i took a political science class my freshman year of college

>> No.12847179

>>12847095
Damn lol. Why do you keep lying and saying that you never said these things? We can see all your posts, you know that right?

>> No.12847180

>>12844642
Don't know about Chomsky being a hack, but his political opinions are definitely cringeworthy. It makes me dislike someone who I would likely otherwise appreciate

>> No.12847184

>>12845847
I'm not a great coder so I couldn't confidently claim it is possible. But look at deep dream. Takes visual cues and generates a new image we find beauty in. Given that text is something computer programs can fluidly interpret, i don't see why you get a program to recognize prose style and patterns of phrasing. And make a james joyce style poem with completely original content, like engineering textbook information or something

>> No.12847197

>>12847176
I and everybody else in this thread can see that youre as a coping retard.
We dont need to believe it. It was evident right off the bat. That coupled with multiple attempts at denying what you said originally and denying your attempts at denial make it known that you're a faggot. Fuck you and fuck jbp for creating faggots like you

>> No.12847206

>>12847184
But the pictures don't represent any reality so about the best you could hope for is some sort of Finnegans wake monstrosity and it's not like Joyce was a particularly notable or warm writer

>> No.12847213

>>12847197
Still a hack lol. Sorry the mere thought of that causes you to burst into treats lmao

>> No.12847236

>>12847213
I think hes a fucking hack too you fucking idiot. You're coping again
>everybody who thinks I'm a faggot must be mad because I hate jbp
>it cant be because I've built a worldview where everyone I dont like is wrong about eveything
Hes a hack outside of his area of expertise, I've already stated as such. But within his area of expertise, denying him the basic levels of competency is a coping mechanism from people who dont like him outside of it.
Prove me wrong. Tell me why you think that, within his own are of expertise, hes actually as fucking stupid outside of it

>> No.12847239

>>12847236
I never denied anything, I'm just willing to give the benefit of the doubt, all things considered.

>> No.12847242

>>12847236
It's like the retards here claiming that chomsky is a hack both in and outside his area of expertise. Its disingenuous and they only believe it because they hate chomsky. Same thing with you, you fucking retard

>> No.12847252

>>12847239
>>12846779
You weren't so lenient here. What's the matter? Coping faggot have a second of clarity and realize that he was coping the entire time?

>> No.12847257

>>12847252
Meant to quote
>>12846787

>> No.12847260

>>12847146
kek

>> No.12847274

>>12847252
That wasn't me but at the same time its just talking about a quality some hacks possess while not necessarily attributing it to Peterson himself.

Now do you see the value in rigor?

>> No.12847284

>>12847274
>Now do you see the value in rigor?
When was this ever the topic of discussion? For me it was always about calling you a coping faggot

>> No.12847291

>>12847284
That's one of the biggest reasons petermeme is a meme

>> No.12847303

>>12847291
None of the fraud shit he says outside his field is academic though.IIt's literally self help bullshit. I'm speaking in terms of his studies, which you believed he couldn't have contributed much on. This is my only area of contention. You never mentioned academic rigor in this aspect, which has been the only one I've ever cared about this entire time

>> No.12847326

>>12847303
>you believed he couldn't have contributed much on.
Sorry that causes you such butthurt lol

>> No.12847335

>>12847326
And I'm sorry that you cant accept that jbp might have some credibility in his own field. You're just as bad as the anti-chomsky faggots I was arguing with.
Literally the same levels of cope from two butt blasted retards

>> No.12847337

>>12846788
Yes, they are. Credibility comes from empirically demonstrated expertise, not credentials, and most especially not citations. "Doing Gender" is one of the most cited sociological papers of all-time; it is also 100% pure unadulterated horseshit with no basis in reality.

>>12846805
>dumb yourself down to a university-level for me
"No"

>> No.12847343

>>12847335
I said he might be overrated, which implies I think he also might not. But it's his work outside of his specialty that confirms he's a hack

>> No.12847348

>>12847337
Uh excuse me university students are not dumb! *hits bong*

>> No.12847354

>>12845810
>>12846166
>>12846628
>>12846646
>>12846688
>>12846779
>>12846787
>>12846819
>>12846842
>>12846851
>>12846901
>>12846932
>>12846946
>>12846956
>>12846982
>>12846991
>>12846997
>>12847063
>>12847078
>>12847095
>>12847123
>>12847127
>>12847152
>>12847197
>>12847236
>>12847252
>>12847284
>>12847335
cope lmao

>> No.12847359

>>12847343
>its chomskys work outside his field that confirms hes a hack
Also you cant imply that he might not be a hack and then confirm that he is one in the next sentence. You're trying to seem objective and then failing.
You anti choms- I mean petermeme retards need to accept that you cant hold an objective opinion on the guy when judging his work within his own area of expertise

>> No.12847408

>>12846574
Emulating blacks.

>> No.12847431

>>12847169
>these fucking sheeple around me can't even comprehend the nuance of specifying that the idiocy was in fact moronic

>> No.12847484

>>12847337
Using unnecessary adjectives doesn't make your shit hard to read it makes it cringy to read
Don't act like you're at some higher level of intellectual communication you fucking neckbeard

>> No.12847550

>>12847106
That is a bad formulation at best.

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>>12846042
Not him but it's people bitching contantly about Chapo that made me aware of them in the first place and then interested me in listening to them.
Their union stuff is alright, as is their anti-zionist stuff, but that's about it

>> No.12847629

>>12847484
Look, I'm sorry you're too stupid to appreciate adverbs. You read too much Stephen King and thought that was what good writing is, I get it. But I can't help being naturally smarter than you, and I'm not going to make myself stupider so that you don't have to process this fact. I wish you the best and I think your heart's in the right place, but you're as dumb as a brick, my man. You've got a cold wet pile of pigshit between your ears. You're fucking stupid, is what I'm saying. Again, I love you, wish you the best. But this is what it is. And I can't change that.

>> No.12847666

>>12844634

>has a bee named after him

LMAO

>> No.12847728

>>12846537
Stop being so buttdevistated because somebody pointed out your high cost participation trophies and good boy awards aren’t reflective of actual intellectual output.
Half the people you study in the average university (at least, a good one) didn’t go to or disliked academia.

>> No.12847748

>>12847728
no ur buttdevestated

>> No.12847754

>>12847629
My favourite author is Joseph Conrad and I've never read a Stephen King novel. You type like a faggot and you sound like one too.

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>>12846938
Most atheists like to think themselves as above or beyond belief structures but the majority of them have simply replaced religion with ideological myths and 'faiths'

>> No.12847765

>>12844645
>It's a linguistic theory, nobody ever claimed it was science.
t. an actual mongoloid

>> No.12847788

>>12847759
Religions are ideologies, ideologies are religions. I thought people knew this already. Nietzsche knew ideologies would fill the void left by God.

>> No.12847815

>>12847759
oh wow the Nazi's were protestants rather than catholics. big discovery

>> No.12847824

>>12847759
>>12847788
All view points are ideologies. Everyone eats out of the trashcan

>> No.12847841

>>12844641
Is this real? The absolute state of reddit. What a joke.

>> No.12847847

>>12847824
>All view points are ideologies
Formal logic isn't an ideology.

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>crtl+f cope/coping
>ten hundred million billion results

>> No.12847862

>>12847815
Anon...

>> No.12847897

>>12847759
>non-catholic = atheist
Is solipsism a religion? Do you go to a solipsist church on sundays?

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>>12847206
>it's not like Joyce was a particularly notable writer

>> No.12847950

So what just happened is that a girl and me just lifted you all from the absolute depths of hell and you like it there, which is why you continually try to stay depressed but I don’t like you there and neither do others

:3

>> No.12847986

>>12847862
What

>> No.12847994

>>12847847
Accepting it is

>> No.12848004

>>12847852
lol cope

>> No.12848155

>>12844641
>reddit so desperate to believe the nazis were fundamentalist christians

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>>12846805
>>12847484
There was nothing wrong with what he wrote. Using a few adjectives here and there is necessary to condense a description of a large, complex institution to discuss it on a place like 4chan. He was right on the money too, so sperging like a retard and answer the critique, brainlet.

>> No.12848435

>>12844853
> but the joos bruh
Ignore /pol/luters.

>> No.12848713

>>12846529
Please post pictures of your dog

>> No.12848737

Contrapoints ended him.

>> No.12848829

>>12844621
If someone's trying to seem smart and brings up Peterson you can just start laughing at them right there.

>> No.12849481

>>12846938
Literal National Socialist here.

Basically, there's no simple answer. Some high-ranking members of the NSDAP were actively anti-Christian, some were actively pro-Christian and others didn't really care. As far as the leadership (especially Hitler) was concerned the religion of Germany was National Socialism and any wrangling with or exploitation of any sort of religion was realpolitik, window dressing and/or a personal matter. Hitler was largely ambivalent-to-friendly towards Christianity but as the churches and Christian organizations and the like proved to be a continuing thorn in the party's side he wasn't about to let the fact that he was raised Catholic get in the way of his agenda.

>> No.12849621

Honestly they're all hacks but Chomsky is the smartest. In fact compared to him the other two literally don't matter.

>> No.12849722

>>12844621
How many of those are about philosophy? Because that is what he gets criticized for, not psychology.

>> No.12849769

>>12847759
There was a christian catholic party in the German parliament by the way

>> No.12849792

>>12847824
Based hyperactive slovenian philosopher/comedian poster.

>> No.12849797

>>12849481
>Literal nazi here
Smash your head against a wall till you either become less of a retard or your skull bursts open

>> No.12849994

bump

>> No.12850011

>>12846129
is he getting academically cucked by his own internet fame?

>> No.12850057

>>12845842
Based and blackpilled
>>12846007
Even more based and even more blackpilled
>>12846529
Absolutely based and blackpilled

I respect many of my professors and people in academia greatly. However, they're merely belief carriers for the love of their own thoughts. They say, posture, that they seek truth, but even the realms of natural science are mostly littered with useless studies that will be entirely wrong in 5-10 years. The most notable emotional researcher in the world, Lisa Barrett, claims emotions are aprototypical. The most notable primatologist in the world claims that all emotions are protypical if not derivative in analogous evolutionary chains. Both cannot be right. In the realm kf quantum mechanics, the edge of the field, can't even agree on the existence of space and time. Like all things, it's 90% noise.

Literary studies, that are non-archeival and non-biographical, are essentially noise, as it's using logic on concepts/words, which is ludicrous and relative. However, I still deeply love and appreciate those that become experts in these fields, as they revitalize them.

What is broken, is that these acolytes of truth, are actually poorly clad narcissists, deluded, or broken individuals, that haven't figured out that we are just caloric calculators. Instead of saddling up to a system that tangibly rewards them, they've given into a system, much like the clergy and the government, that rewards in pins, titles, and awards. Fuck ceremonies, give me a Porsche.

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>>12847666
Dr Jordan Bee Peterson

>> No.12850114

>>12847136

Psychologists

>> No.12850155

>>12849481
>Literal National Socialist here
Nice LARP, faggot

>> No.12850160

>>12850057
Sounds like you need to take the leadpill

>> No.12850220

>>12846072

>Overman
>He actually is LITERALLY seething

Made my night fagface, thanks. Stop saying y'all, it was trashy when it started and it's trashy now. It just, plain, does not sound good, no matter how anyone says it.

>> No.12850238

>>12844859
That's not even the worst part of it.
>Proof itself, of any sort, is impossible
>as Godel proved

>> No.12850261

>>12844634

Genocide apologies: many - none -none

>> No.12850280

>>12846007
Looks kids. This is what happens when you're homeschooled.

>> No.12850293

>>12850160
Lol'd, also lead was outlawed at Geneva because it poisoned fields/crops into the future

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>>12844641
>Nazism was an atheist doctrine.
>mfw