/lit/ - Literature

im not sure about returning to organized religion, but certainly there are no well-read atheists so it is a half truth at worst.

philosophy needs to be saved from god

>>12836699
>there are no well-read atheists
Basically this

>>12836688
Pernicious Anglo stupidity, recognized as such by Schopenhauer. It has never been true.

>>12836699
>Artaud
>Beauvoir
>Calvino
>Camus
>Chekhov
>Coatzee
>Conrad
>Eco
>Eliot
>Ibsen
>Kafka
>Leopardi
>Neruda
>Proust
>Saramago
>Wells
>Woolf
>Badiou
>Baudrillard
>Barthes
>Bataille
>Deleuze
>Derrida
>Foucault
>Gasset
>Heraclitus
>Hume
>Marx
>Nietzsche
>Schops
>Stirner
>Zizek

>>12836738
they were all partisans, their atheism is not to be taken as genuine.

>>12836752
Where exactly is the true Scotsman, then? Oh, yes, he's over there, in the camp you don't like.

>>12836759
>the true Scotsman
he's right here. this is what an honest atheist looks like.

>>12836764
>the only people I consider true atheists are pseuds
>wow isn't it interesting that atheists aren't well read?

>>12836819
i'm sorry that it offends you that everybody on your list was an atheist out of ideological necessity. again, show me a single person, both intelligent and honest, who is an atheist.

>>12836842
everyone on that list

>>12836738
>Artaud
Roman paganist
>Kafka
Messianic Kabbalist
>Badiou
Mathematical Gnostic Platonist
>Baudrillard
Pataphysician
>Bataille
Atheologian of the sacred
>Deleuze
Spinozan panentheist
>Derrida
Jewish negative theologian
>Foucault
Greco-Roman paganist
>Heraclitus
Chaotic priest of the Logos
>Nietzsche
Polytheist of the Vicious Circle

>>12836752
Jesus what a cope. Those people don’t actually believe what they blatantly have stated they believe

>>12836842
How do you define honest? Person who dosent contradic my agreement? In what way are they dishonest?

>>12836858
t. gets all his information on literature from shitposts on 4chan

>>12836688
exaxt thing happened to me, is this a known phenomenon?

>>12836858
lmao, you're really stupid

>>12836861
>Those people don’t actually believe what they blatantly have stated they believe
why is that so hard to believe?

>>12836914
>implying you are well read

>>12836688

I'm not sure it was ever true

>>12836688
And why do you care about man only, and not also woman?

>>12836688
>Is that still true?
Not definitively.

>>12837013
Because women small bad and are stupid, so their opinions don't need to be entertained by intelligent men like myself.

>>12837013
The real butterfly would never say something so fuckig retarded :3

>>12836688
>>12836699
I agree, at least that was the pattern in my case...

>>12837013
"Man" means humans in general.

Yes, it takes a philosopher's outlook to understand why religion is as important as it is. You can find a church in every town in the USA. You can't say that about a lot of things. You can't even find a McDonalds in every town, and they are the most profitable chain restaraunt in the world.

>>12836688
>>12837233
same, once i got out of my teenager edgy contrarian phase and actually opened my mind

>>12836738
Kafka acknowledged the existence of God, even if he said he’s indifferent about us.

>>12836688
These so-called truisms are almost never true.

>>12837013
"man" was gender-neutral for centuries before it gained the gender-specific definition

>>12836738
>unironically listing e-celebs
kill yourself

>>12837013
who gives a fuck what women think
they're not even sentient
might as well ask what dogs think

That may be true but they aren't going back to organized religion like their parents hope when they tell their children folksy truisms like this

>>12836699
Every intellectual since the 20th century has been atheist, what do you mean?>>12836688
Maybe try separating the notion of your teenage scientist atheist from an actual atheist, americuck

We are spiritual creatures, whether we accept it or not. Organised religion is a way to channel this in a way which is supportive of society.

>>12837588
Not true. NOT TRUE!

>>12837274
>you can't find a mcdonalds in every town

Are you sure about that

>>12837918
There's no mcdonalds in my hometown because the city is against corporations taking over (and more so a good portion of the state as well to the point there was a national outrage about not bending backwards for a large co. a few decades ago).
We have a starbucks though.

>>12837666
>cultural christianity