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there was some anon scanning it in a previous thread but he didnt provide any way to contact him

>>12811948
It is out of print. As >>12812078 said, there was someone who said they were scanning a copy a few days ago, but the thread died and I am not sure if they will follow through with it. Hopefully he posts it on here when he is finished. He said he was scanning ~50 pages a day.

>>12812078
>>12812171
Like I said, it's really tedious work. Scanning 50 pages on a normal printer would take about 2-3 hours at a time, and things came up that got in the way lately.

I honestly think that you guy should take a look at the table of contents that I posted and find another book that covers most of that in a non-brainlet fashion.

Creative and Critical Thinking is a good book but it's not worth having an autistic fixation about it itself. As long as you cover the breadth, depth, and scope of the book, then you are good.

>>12812291
Could you post it again?

>>12812356
look it up on the archive on warosu.org. shouldn't be too hard to find.

>>12812291
Anon, I'm already have an autistic fixation about it. Could you scan a bit more?

>>12812383
*I already have. Sorry, I'm phoneposting.

>>12812383
>Anon, I'm already have an autistic fixation about it.
Why?

>>12812383
>Anon, I'm already have an autistic fixation about it.
Why? There is very little secret knowledge, and much of what is considered "secret" is better described as obscure by bad luck or neglect. If you want to think clearer and understand more, the challenge is navigating the landscape, making connections, and forming your own conclusions.

>>12811948
This is designed for groups but it has a lot to reach as far as metaphor and creative thinking
It's out of print, too

>>12812963
Give me recs or give me scans, bruh

>>12813138
I don't have recs. Whatever recs you guys end up finding, make sure it covers the topics in the table of contents and is available online.

>>12813146
natalie goldberg writing down the bones

I'm saving this thread

scanner anon is doing gods work let him take his time as long as he does it

>>12815294
I think he gave up >>12812291
>find another book

>>12815350
scanner anon is a dumb useless nigger

>>12811948
because college students get fucked by billionaires in a capitalist society. what are you gonna do about it? nothing, bitch. you get nothing. fuck you give me $275

>>12815684
He's probably an old capitalist and wants to keep the knowledge to himself.

>>12811948
I bought this for $40, as far as I know, there is one copy on amazon for $1300 and another in the UK for $80. Literally cant find a original physical copy from the time.

there are some chapters here
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nzrzylohf6vg1ml/AABbd5ie1Rp3d4SYmGH8nFLDa?dl=0

still wish someome scanned it fully

>>12816071

Used to read this obsessively back in uni days. Legit gained ~30 IQ points. I understand why based anon is keeping this to himself.

>>12816873
I only gained 15 IQ points but that's still a massive improvement.

>>12816881
>>12816873
Plebs.

I got a x2 IQ multiplier.

Lasts for five days but still not bad

>>12816881
I am not exaggerating when I say I was obsessed. For a year straight I had gone insane and scrutinized my thought processes in progressing levels of recursion correlating to my developing working memory seeking intellectual improvement. I can't recommend this as it genuinely feels like you're raping your self, but I still feel some of the intellectual effects from those days.

I still plan on scanning it, it's just that I'm going to take my leisurely time.

Just coped the 1967 edition for a reasonable price. There’s 2 left anons

>>12816907
You'll be doing godly work,anon

>>12816918
>reasonable price
Don't believe you.

>tfw a screencap of a series of rambling posts of mine and its subsequent meme chart derivatives have singlehandedly driven a book's price into the triple digits
idk how to feel

>>12817181
What was the price before?

Does it really offer something many other freely available ones don't? And what does the 1985 say about differences with the 1967 one?

https://archive.org/details/creativecritical0000moor

Now I want this book and is nowhere to be found.

>>12816894
you're not that interesting

there is no way that a book on "critical thought" is actually critical and thoughtful.

>>12817222
Quit posting this link, it'll be months before someone from here can borrow it.

>>12817272
It shouldn't to be critical about itself, but actually dogmatic.

>>12817277
When he first posted that link there were no borrows. Someone borrowed it and it was probably a lazy anon who don't want to scan for us. There's 2 people ahead of me. I'll get it in a month and a half if none of them returns the book before the 14 days. If until there no anon scans it, i'll do.

>>12815705
lol on Amazon.ca it's CDN$655.68

>>12817222
I willing to upload a PDF of this one, if someone gives me a reliable upload site

>>12817355
libgen? A public tracker?

>>12817355
Google Drive

>>12817354
>someone's actually selling it for US$1,015.00

>>12811948
Fuck man I would unironically read it.

>>12811948
>Why does it cost $275?

>buy book for 275
>scan it all
>resell for 275
>total cost was the shipping price
>now have copy of the book for life
???

>>12811948
https://www.ebluejay.com/item/6498167

Isn't this it?

>>12817430
It may be the first edition, has only one author, not three.
>$1.58USD
>ShippingUSPS, $4.42

>>12817181
I got mine for like $15 on Amazon.

>>12817214
No. It's just a good, clear book that captures a broad variety of topics related to critical thinking. It's a good jumping off point.

>>12817392
>experiencing the effort involved in scanning a book
yfw

>>12817466
Don't joke with my suffering

>>12817674
I'm not. I only regret memeing the book in the first place because everybody now believes it to be a lost gospel instead of understanding it to be an exemplar of a good primer on critical thinking and searching for easier to obtain replacements. I wanted to start a discussion that led somewhere, not form an obnoxious cult fixated on mythological symbols.

I wonder how people are going to react when they actually get a hold of a PDF and realize that 1) it's good; 2) it covers a great breadth of topic at a reasonable depth; but 3) it wasn't good enough to hold an autistic fixation over it instead of looking for a book or a few that could replace it. Hell, I don't think any book is good enough save for a missing Homeric epic.

Eh, I suppose I need to be the change I wish to see in others, yadda yadda yadda. Once I get this thing scanned sometime in the next two weeks to two months, I'll get a tripcode, start a Discord server, and form a reading group general on /lit/ for investigating topics related to autodidactism, critical thinking, the trivium, etc. How does that sound?

>>12817905
that sounds awesome honestly

>>12817905
Sounds great, anon. I'll be waiting

>>12817905
Cool beans

>>12817905
When they have yhe copy they don't give a single shit about reading it. They skim it for quotes, screencap them and throw it like bones to other anons to feel more intelligent than everybody else and smug...

>>12817994
I have yet to see this book quoted at all, lol.

>>12817994
Anon, it's a textbook about thinking, not memery shit

>>12817088
what's so unreasonable about $917.43 plus $233.67 shipping and handling, goy?

>>12817905
Please do this

>>12817355
the pdf is on libgen now

>>12818260
You have done a man's job, sir

>>12818260
Very nice. Still I am searching for the 1985 version

>>12818260
Holy shit, Anon. This is peak board culture, I'm not even joking. Thank you so much

>>12818260
you're a good man. be proud

>>12818260
Thank you
Name of the Rose, /lit/ version
How could a book live up to this anticipation?

>>12818303
my experience is college textbooks get dumbed down

>>12818260
based

>>12818260
403 forbidden error?

>>12818672
i can't download it. is anyone else facing this issue?

>>12813022
good stuff, thanks

>>12816894
Are you memeing

>>12817905
do it

>>12815705
What’s wrong with getting fucked? Getting fucked is underrated. It feels
Good.

>>12818793
true i suck dick but i dislike the harmful side effects of crony capitalism

>>12818260
>libgen
this shows up every time I try to go there
is it safe?

>>12819351
Holy fucking retard

>>12819403
help me out faggot

>>12819351
newfag, lurk moar

>>12818260
Im getting 404

>>12819351
I went there and my computer got AIDS. Be careful, man

>>12819726
Worked for me right away. Can you access libgen or is it just this book?

>>12818260
You are Legendary, Anon. God bless ya.

>>12818684
Yeah, it just fucking gives up when it reaches around 11MB.

>>12819756
just this book, for the [1] mirror, is another one supposed to work?

>>12817905
please not discord, use riot.im

>>12818260
Thanks

>>12818260
Holy fuck, how did you do that? You're fucking amazing, my friend.

I'll still upload the 1985 version sometime in the future, but this is great news.

>>12820347
>I'll still upload
PLEASE DO

bump

>>12821914
it's already on libgen dude

>>12821929
has anyone read it yet

Is this some sort of a psy-op? What is so special about this book?

>>12821959
was featured on this meme chart and many more

>>12821969
>Thinking, Fast and Slow
>A Primer in Positive Psychology
Yikes. Don't tell me people take these charts seriously.

>>12821969
Why not this one?

>>12821969
Test

>>12821981
>Yikes.

>>12821969
there are so many typos in that chart lol

>>12821931
Yes it starts with Eisenhower and Rommel sacrificing yutes like there’s no tomorrow

>>12821931
I read a chapter then play with my action figures

>>12823155
Well, now I am confusion

>>12823359
I was reading Creative and Critical Thinking like everyone else when God visited me.

>>12823359
I am become confusion, destroyer of brainlets

>>12824944
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tdyybvuacVc

>>12818260
God among men

>>12818260

Doing god's work anon, may you have a delightful week

>>12817905
Discord is the cancer. You can do the same through screenshot posting

>>12817905
Just use irc.

>>12817905
I'll check out Riot.im, it seems like a better tool. I'll also see if I can borrow a friend's phone or camera for the day and find a good lighting setup to expedite the process.

>>12812360
I couldn't find unless I'm using the wrong words
Is "Creative and Critical Thinking" not enough?

>>12818260
worth the tripfags and crossboard posters for moments like this

>>12826430
just type critical thinking moore, you'll find the right one.

>>12818260
We may not be able to know who you are but know in our hearts, you are a true hero

>>12826452
and there isn't a single tripfag in this thread

>>12813022
can someone get this out there?

>>12826536
dont jinx it bro

What did you make of Exercise 1? What were the tentative conclusions you've drawn?

>>12827630
>Smythe should now
an hero

Could someone please upload it to mega or similar? libgen seems to be a bit overtaxed.

>>12827630
a. he’ll study more efficiently as semester wears on
b. Chemistry is unsuitable for Joe and he should drop it
c. A Chemistry tutor would help Joe study more efficiently

>>12828904
>he should drop it
What a defeatist conclusion.

>>12828942
pages 3-4
“Some freshmen fail in college because they do not recognize soon enough that their academic work is unsatisfactory or that they are in an unsuitable curriculum.”

>>12828942
Sound like someones self-concept was threatened :3

>>12829296
Stop using my face

Found it in about 30 seconds. Old edition though

>>12818260
>>12829347
My mistake, that was you anon. Absolute top tier work.

>>12818260
thank you nameless hero
I love you

you guys want to start a read along in a new thread?

>>12829557
yes
it’s good
and type of book worth studying

>>12815705
>muh capitalism bad

Bump, I wish this board had a fucking moderator jesus christ

>>12829990
What do you mean?

>>12812291
You know, if you just cut the spine off, you could drop the whole stack of pages in the feeder and it'll be fully scanned in like 5 minutes. Assuming you have a decent scanner.

>>12830343
why would he throw $800 in the trash like that anon

>>12830441
For the (You)s

>>12830160

We really don't need more than one "rec me a book for [this specific thing]" thread, if you ask me. But I'm easily annoyed.

>>12830441
The pages still exist. It's not a collector's item. You can still read it.

That sucks, op. I'd wanted to tackle pic related

>>12831096
C&CT is on libgen anon, read the thread

>>12831151
Thanks for pointing that out

>>12811948
its a meme book

>>12832263
no it isnt

>>12811948
> buy Creative and Critical Thinking for $35 from a second hand store
> It's full of some pleb's notes from 20 years ago and painful to read because of the useless interjections on every page
> mfw

>>12829308
sorry based schizoposter, but the CAPITAL-sentience has d e t e r r i t o r i a l i z e d the phenomenological for-itself's in-itself :3

Just gonna show off here and say I bought this book a while ago really cheap at <£5. The book was cheaper than the shipping. There are some notes from a previous user but they're not obtrusive at all.

If anybody has any questions about the book feel free to ask, I'll be lurking.

>>12834125
Which version did you buy?

>>12834163
First Edition

>page ten

>bruh there's this out of print book called "Creative and Critical Thinking" i think it contains the secrets

>>12835846
Anon, I really think it does for an aimless person like me.

>>12835846
this
gonna read it anyway though

I need McKee

>>12836242
?

wtf im a genuis now

>>12836521
Edgy.

im a newfag wtf is libgen?
general library?
link pls

>>12818303
This. Can some burger find this version or at least indicate it exists somewhere else other than Amazon capitalists' hands.

>amazon.co.uk
>£2,021.99
nani

>>12836576
I'm the guy who CBA to scan it on a regular basis. I have it and I'm working on scanning it in my free time. If you want to check out the table of contents, look up creative and critical thinking by moore in the warosu /lit/ archive. Here is a preface listing the changes from the 1st to 2nd edition if you want to know the differences in a nutshell.

>>12818260
Help me I'm a newfag, what is libgen?
General library?
Link ?

>>12836733
>>12836548

>>12836733

Figure it out yourself, kid. The bar cannot possibly go any lower

Man we have some faggot ass mods on here

>>12836751
>>12836743
Oh fuck I just googled it
Forgive my severe retardation

>>12836782
you have to be over 18 to post on this website

>>12837645

t. 19 year old

>>12829611
>muh socialism bad

>>12836758
Are you implying something bad about this thread

>>12821981
>Thinking, Fast and Slow
I thought this was very incitement. What issues do you have with it?

>>12838184
insightful*

>>12825961
Thank you, Captain Above & Beyond.