/lit/ - Literature

>>12821619
Xvideos will do

>>12821619
>I need to know what caused it
Why? What difference does it make?

>>12821627
Because I feel degenerate as fuck every time I finish jerking it to this stuff

If I know what caused it, maybe I can remove it

>>12821648
Not being retarded is a simple and cheap solution anon.

>>12821648
Well stop jerking off to it then.

>>12821619
Introspection. Your mind is logic itself; it is a system that can fix its own problems. You don't need any idiotic pop psychology-self help chimera to distract you from what you can learn about yourself through sheer thinking

>>12821660
I literally can't bros

>>12821665
assuming you're not a autistic LARPing fuck, castration is an extreme but effective solution. Cheaper than any books or therapy too.

>>12821664
This only works to some extent, much of our problems lie beyond the scope of our mind's inquisitions, for which we turn to larger bodies of knowledge in hopes of our own conditions being captured there, presuming others in our world to also have dealt with it.

>>12821619
Stop watching p*rn. It's very bad for you. And please stop saying "mommy", that's a wholesome dynamic, and one not the same as the "milf" complex you're presumably describing here, which you should be therefore be referring to it as. That said, I'm interested in the subject myself and want to see what others recommend you on it. It's a very interesting topic, in general.

>>12821619
generally because you have a neglectful mother

>>12821665
You literally can

>>12821686
If the problem is with your mind, it can't possibly be without the scope of your mind. Therefore, it can be solved entirely by your mind. The brain is a different thing, and for that you may need to consult experts.

I have a castration fetish but ive slready castrated myself. It sucks im thinking of slowly carving off chunks of my pubis mons just to get off as i rub my prostate.

>>12821619
Also Sade, if you want to know what the upper crust is into. And Genet for the lower crust.

>>12821695
But an individual can only penetrate the depths of their own mind to a certain degree. We are not the masters of ourselves, in this area or any other. We are limited, fallible, and foolish not to seek out the pool of larger information available to us by the beings who are also made almost exactly like we are, and might have insights that we ourselves do not yet, or will not ever, have of ourselves.

I have ADHD for example, and it makes my own self-assessment flawed from the outset, since I'm trying to understand myself from a corrupted investigative ground. Hence, I read a lot on the nature of the condition, be it by those who have it and those who treat it. But the same can apply to anything else, regardless of whether a person has a mental handicap or not.

>>12821718
Who is in a better position to get to the depths of your own mind than yourself? No one else has access to your subjectivity, and unintentional self deception can easily carry over into unintentional general deception, and negate any value derived from therapy. I don't know much about ADHD, but from what I do know it's considered a condition of the brain rather than a thought pathology. The point of the "talking cure" is that thought pathologies can be cured with thinking alone, the talking is a means to jumpstart, aid, and concentrate the thinking, aside from the benefits of expressing repressions.

>>12821619

basically this

>>12821707
Are you for real ? This sounds really extreme.

I began masturbating to liveleak videos, and through that I saw how truly fabricated and subjective the human systematic project is.

>>12822455
>Wall of a text made up purely of some /pol/fag's feels.

>>12821619
No one has said it? Sigmund Freud

>>12821707

>>12821707
My castration fetish comes from my liberal, vagina worshiping mother wanting me to act like a girl and play with girl toys in my childhood I believe. I would never castrate myself though lmao, that's kinda gay, I'd only allow a milf to do it.

>>12822492
or well, not liberal, saying that makes me sound like a tard. More like, insane and narcissistic.

The first 30 pages of Lolita unironically

>>12821687
this desu.
>ywn have a warm caring mother instead you had some bitch that royally fucked up your upbringing turning you into a bitter cynical person thay no one can love.

>mfw have mutually-exclusive and contradictory fetishes

>>12821619
Its caused by porn..
Isn't it obvious?

>>12821665
That's because you have no self control. Install siteblockers on your computers and phone. When you get the urge to masturbate, open up the bible. There are all sorts of reading plans concerning self control and resisting temptation.
Don't act like you're dependent on jacking it do degenerate filth, when really you just dont want to put any effort into stopping.

>>12821619
Look It's easy. It's pure chemistry.
You masturbate, and by masturbating You create a feedback loop of hormones that makes you associate with sexuality things that have nothing to do with It like feet, little kids, mommies.
The one True way to heal from this is stop masturbating.

>>12822861
based
>>12821619
here is a complete clinical guide to degeneracy

>>12821619
Gravity's Rainbow

>>12822882
uuuuufffffg

>>12822901
I would tear that up.

>>12822455
This, I can attest as I used to be a degenerate fag but got out of that shit.

>>12822901
It is disingenuous to believe people didn't rub one out to paintings featuring nudity before the advent of pornography.

>>12821648
You seriously don't know what caused that...?

>>12821648
study came out recently showing excessive porn use can lead to becoming bisexual but once porn is removed they go back to being straight and are no longer turned on by men also one FMRI imaging study showed tolerance to porn builds over time leading to more degenerate stuff, cut out porn for a month and it'll go away anon

>>12821619
>I need to know what caused it lads
being a fucking pansy who needs his mommy
>>12821648
trying literally jerking off to your mom you pansy fuck
>>12821664
tldr; pansy
>>12821665
you're a fucking pansy

>>12822819
>when you get the urge to masturbate, open up the bible

I read this thread and are impressed by the number of /pol/fags taking the bait. /lit/ has really gone downhill, what a shame.

>>12821713
Thanks for the cute animal rec

>>12821619
1 billions wicked though should be the book you need.

Basically, the theory is that, like a newborn chick can't be sure of what its mother will look like, an human can't ve sure of what the optimal sexual cues to look for will be. Thus we come with a biological program that is activated toward adolescence and create our sexual preferences. This "program" prioritize certains things as many fetishes are shared through cultures and some of them are overwhelmingly popular comared to other, no matter what cultures you're looking at, like youth, butt, breast or feets.

There's a reason why anipe sluts are so popular.

>>12822901

>>12821619
hey op. Look out for the article called 'erotic fetishism' by Alfred Binet, or perhaps it's called 'on fetishism in love' or something. It's a very clear and easy read, and one of the first essays on the subject.

what could cause a white man to have the urge to suck black dicks? asking for a friend haha

>>12823842
Looks like chocolate compared to other dicks.

Do you think fetishes are innate? Aquired? A bit of both?

>>12823817 would advocate for innate it seems, but I think a lot of fetishes for specific sexual practices are socially constructed.

>>12823817
>anime sluts

noice

>>12823851
It's not entirely social, nor biological. Feets for exemple, seems faily universal, weirdly enought, yet not every cultures engaged in foot binding.

>>12823851
Polymorphous perversity is the correct psychological theory of paraphilia. All fetishes and libidinous energy activators come from environmental influences on the mind.

>>12821619
Because either you had a neglectful mother who didn't give a shit about you or you had an overprotective and overbearing mother
t.anon with oedipus complex who has a clingy mom

>>12822867
>WatchingmyMomgoBlack.com

>>12823887
>psychoanalytical
>correct
I totally agree with the possibility 'to gain sexual gratification outside socially normative sexual behaviors', though. Thus incest, cuck, interracial fetishes, I guess.

/gif/ has already destroyed my brain. I'm a degenerate sissy crossdresser.

>>12823986
pics?

>>12821619
Classical conditioning

Stop watching Tara Tainton and Xev Bellringer mommykinos

What’s the most /lit/ fetish?

I’d say Oedipus complex and AGP are top contenders.

>>12824059
I want to marry Xev. It's not fair.

>>12823991
I'm not that degenerate to the point of save degrading pics of myself.

>>12824086
Not yet anyway. You will be soon.

>>12823986
>destroyed my brain
there was never anything there to start, bitch.

Almost all the talk I've seen about fetishes are complete nonsense because people act like they're afflictions which have randomly cast on them, and that they have no control over them. They're habits, that's all. You have fucked up sexual habits because your attitudes and views towards sex in general are disordered.

>>12823779
What do you mean? I hope you're not suggesting the fetishes described in this thread are healthy.

>>12821670
Why would anyone larp about being a porn addict?

>>12821619
You don't need a book. Fetishes develop based on traumatic experiences males have during puberty and their sexual development in general. The mommy fetish is actually the least weird so consider yourself lucky. Fetishes are drawn out of your subconscious and reinforced by porn though. The best way to go back to normal is to never jack off to porn or at least reduce your jacking off to porn. Instead just go in the bathroom and beat off to the idea in your head. Your fetish will still be there but it will be kept more in check and wont be reinforced. I don't think there is any way to overcome a fetish fundamentally though, you would probably have to see a psychiatrist.

>>12824350
>jack off to the idea

This doesn't reduce the fetish. It's just all around superior. Your imagination will always make a scenario ten times more arousing than any piece of porn.

Speaking as a fetishist myself, it's better to just jack off to it whenever you get the urge so you can keep it under control. Repressing it is the single worst thing you can do, because that can lead to it spiralling out of control.

>>12824296
People from the NoFap discord keep spamming 4chan with this shit

>>12824406
>it's the xyz discord group behind it
Is it really that hard to believe there would be a remorseful porn addict, on 4chan of all places? Is there really always a malevolent discord group trying to influence people?

>>12822861
This is my fetish

>>12824460
>Is there really always a malevolent discord group trying to influence people?
Yes. the only other alternative would be that people actually think different then me and aren't just being malicious actors, which is clearly absurd.

Why is this thread allowed to stay up but my Plato/Aristotle thread was taken down? Wtf man

>>12824524
Think about the sort of person who fills out and send an application to do a job for free and there's your answer. You don't even have to go on IRC and interact with them to know that the mods are bunch of dumb cunts but if you need proof, it's an option.

>>12824524
tranny discords like butterfly are the problem

>>12821665
Review your life, other than masturbation what other things do you feel contribute to your current lack of self control? Take procrastination for example, it isn't that you procrastinate in a single aspect of life, usually one procrastinates in general in many aspects of life, by noticing this and slowly ceasing to procrastinate at all either one aspect at a time or in general you will over time if you continue to apply yourself, cease to procrastinate; likewise, consider what areas of life you feel you currently lack in self control? Take the easy ones first and build up to your main goal. You are only up against mere habit, some of which is linked to dopamine, of which you can reset to trigger from something else if you deprive yourself of any pleasurable things from any stimuli (lock yourself in an empty room for a week or live in the wilderness for a week; but this dopamine stuff is completely unrelated to your situation which is really just about increasing discipline by over time cutting out bad habits, it seems like a mountain at first which is the false rationalization people use to continue their bad habits which contribute to their own lackluster existence, remember you aren't these labels you apply to yourself, nor are the tasks you decide to do and the habits you build or bad habits you tear down the labels you apply to them. Nothing in life is "hard" nothing in life is "easy" you are not "stupid" nor are you a "genius" because all of these are transient properties and come and go as the situation warrents, all they do is mislead and add emotion into consideration which serves only to psychologically mess with you. Fetishes arise from whatever you were exposed to in childhood along with your own biological desire for sex and creation, along with the urge for new stimuli from porn which with time ends in more and more niche fetishes, some of which are only available to the mentally ill a la scat and imaginary things like furry. What you do from here is up to you. It always was, but you just emotionally rationalized otherwise to continue the habit, you will feel stimuli, emotion, urges, desires, but you are in control, you drive this body and the choice to act on it is entirely your own.

>tfw have several fetishes that range from mildly normal to disgusting and weird
>tfw am also a writer
>tfw I frequently write little blurbs and stories that feature my fetishes for the express purpose of reading them later
>tfw I can generate my own fetish content

I should probably stop, though, it's a waste of time in the grand scheme of things.

>>12825258
To clairify regarding the week thing, just look up traditions like vision quests, ascetics going into the forest and their lifestyles, this purification ritual is found throughout all religions and mytholgies (Christian monks in monasteries, Buddhist monks in monasteries) as well as secular (Thoreau's Walden, going out into nature etc.) but unlike the vision quest and ascetics they don't go out alone. The Greeks have the saying 'Know Thyself' which people interpret in unbelievably different ways, but there is no better way to know yourself than be completely isolated, without devices, without people, without comfort, without safety of food and water, and have to survive on your own, no camping or tools, this is when you find yourself, this is how you reset your brain and tastebuds along with habits, this will purify you, once you are done you can reintroduce the good habits and plain food and you will be able to remove the bad.

>>12823404
This is just false, I've had degenerate fetishes before I even knew porn existed

>>12823779
Why aren't you reading the greeks and King James Bible right now pseud???

>>12821619
Answer to your question would be Freud, idk if someone already replied but ya

>>12821619
>tfw have a fetish for mechanical/hydraulic/robot noises

Is this what its like being an accelerationist?

>>12824062
Oedipus complex is literally a literary complex, so it wins automatically.

male fantasies - Klaus Theweleit

Read sophocles, then Freud, then Lacan, then stab your eyes out.

Solved.

>>12821619
Michael Bader's Arousal.

>>12821648
Classical conditioning to previous stimuli or thoughts. You watch porn videos with these themes and are conditioned. Pretty simple. People can be conditioned to be aroused at the sight of a penny jar. Your mistake is to think these are innate rather than external.