/lit/ - Literature

something something Sanderson.

Thread proposals: Horror should be added to the general and next month's Monthly Reading should be a choice between short stories instead of full-length novels so most anons would be able to read it in a day or two.

Thank you and God bless America.

I was going to try reading every nebula award winner in order
is this a good idea? any books worth skipping?

le guin a cute
a cute

Croaker is pretty based.

Book report time! And I'm finished. To sum up: first 6 or so chapters and the last 6 or so chapters are some fantastic, pulpy, dark Sword & Sorcery/Lovecraftian horror sci-fi that any fan of those genres would enjoy. The middle portion of the book though.... man oh man. When Wagner was on his game he could come across as the heir-apparent to REH's throne, but when he wasn't his stuff could be beyond tedious. So Bloodstone is an odd book with a great beginning and a great end and a mostly dull middle-section, but the good stuff in the book is REALLY good.

>>12792388
He's pretty bad as the mushroom man but asserting his authority at the beginning of the books of the south was satisfying.

>>12792336
This isn't burgertown boi.
Fuck off.

>>12792488
I'm afraid it is, Mohammed. You gonna do something about it, bitch?

>>12792499
>if you are not klapistani, you are muslim
Nice COPE

>>12792507
>tips kebab

>>12792336
>cant read a full-sized novel in a few hours
fucking readlets

How2get published?
Or should I give up and make a web novel

>>12792581
Make a successful self publishing career and leverage that into an actual book deal.

>>12792581
If you're a man dress up like a woman and write 'woke' fantasy and/or sci-fi. That's all it takes.

>>12792383
MOMMY

>William D Arand
Planned publication dates
>Remnant April 7, 2019
>Swing Shift May 7, 2019
>Fostering Faust 3 June 7, 2019
>Dungeon Deposed 3 July 7, 2019

Current-Books
>FF3
>DD3
>IncInc or MW

Books on Deck
>Fallen General
>The Librarian
>Survivorman
>FactorioOOOOOOOO

>John Conroe
Full Time Writing
>So I wrote the first eighteen books of my writing career while holding down a full time job and being a full time father. Now the kids are grown and I’ve retired from a thirty-two year career as a banker
>The sequel to Zone War, titled Borough of Bones, is well underway.
>I’ve also started the next Demon Accords book, C.A.E.C.O
>I expect to publish BOB in March or early April),
>I would love to publish four books in 2019 and have another published in January of 2020.
>In 2020 my hope is to start a full high fantasy series that’s been worming its way into my brain with a completely new world build, but still producing Demon Accords books as well.

>E William Brown
>I’m happy to say that work on the next Alice Long book, Merciful Troubleshooter, is well underway. I’m currently finishing up chapter 9, and tentatively looking at a release sometime in late summer or early fall.
Chapter 9 and book was started before January 2018, and will be published after September 2019. No updates on anything else, no progress. Fuck E William Brown.

>>12792671
you are obsessed with that guy. give it a rest and call him a faggot like the rest of us.
just pirate his books instead and then post on his blog about pirating his books.

>>12792313
read Out of the Silent Planet this weekend, pretty shit desu

>>12792671
>write smut to get famous
>loli space marine continues to print money
>minimum effort and still make bank

He clearly thinks he’s like Sanderson and only needs to churn out a book a year. His bank account seems to support this argument.

is ringworld worth reading?

>>12792313
Should I continue writing my novel, /sffg/? My novel is politically incorrect or at the very least, not Toeing the Political Line and I'm worried it won't get published because of it. I was thinking of rewriting it massively but I'm having cold feet about it. I don't know what to do.

>>12792718
An actual ringworm would be more worth reading.

>>12792730
Look at what Bakker wrote. He found a publisher. You can too

>>12792730
If you're really that worried about being picked up by a traditional publisher then self publish. Furthermore if you end up having to rewrite something because a potential publisher wants you to be more politically correct then are you okay with selling out integrity for a non guaranteed shot at success?

Finally gonna start black company either tonight or tomorrow morning. Never actually participated in the monthly reading before. I’ve read a lot of the books that have been done, but never during. I am excite.

My favorite part of The Crippled God so far (and technically DoD) is laughing jaghut.wav

>>12792383
ew

>>12792585
This. If Andy Weir can do it with that fucking reddit-bait trainwreck 'The Martian' then anyone can do it.

>>12792585
>>12793092
how does one promote their stuff other than relentlessly shilling it on reddit?

>>12792730
I'm pretty sure there are entire independent publishers whose sole marketing point is: "We publish the REDPILLED speculative fiction SJW LEFTIES don't want you to read."

>>12793107
nah, it ain't that type of political incorrectness.

>>12793102
Normiebook
Instagram
Twitter
Stealth shilling on sffg

>>12793102
You relentlessly shill it somewhere else. Twitter, Tumblr, some random writing forum or Facebook page. Basically anywhere but here. It's important to go above-and-beyond when shilling, and to frame it as community engagement. Weir did it not just by shilling, but by actively engaging with other aspiring writers in a positive and constructive manner: He didn't just post on /r/writing asking people to read his shit, he exhaustively read other people's shit and then made them feel good about it (and in return, they read his stuff.) Those people formed the basis of his readership for The Martian before he pulled the manuscript and sold it for big bucks.

Theoretically, you can also just publish your stuff on Amazon, tick the box which gives them most of your profit in exchange for free advertising, and then hope to get lucky. That's how Marko Kloos and Christopher Nuttall got their break. You could also try getting short stories published in legit places and use that to funnel readers to your self-published novels.

litRPG is truly the quintessential power fantasy of capitalism in decay, the power fantasy of being able to afford VR goggles and the free time to use them.

>>12792730
Your odds of being published are far higher if you actually write the fucking thing.

>>12792543
No one can. Speedreading is a myth

>>12793144
Wouldn't the economy of scale drive the price of VR units way down until anyone on even a modest income would be able to afford it. Unlike property, for example, "just build more" is absolutely a viable way of fixing the price problem.

>>12793144
Don’t forget most litrpgs are “contest winners” or “my friend/uncle/ex works for vr company.” There’s always a contrived reason why the poor downtrodden protag can dedicate his life to the mmo.

>>12792718
The Larry Niven thing?
Not very much in my opinion.
It explores some interesting concepts tangentially like what the massive habitual size of a ringworld would actually mean but aside from that the book didn't really catch me.
The story also completely cuts off and leaves you hanging to the point where I had to check if I had an incomplete ebook. It continues in the other books but I wasn't really eager on following it up.

>>12794032
That can already be seen in the form of stuff like the PSVR, but there's a limit to how low it can go, and there are also increased costs for better image quality, simulation effects, input devices, etc. And of course the computer itself needs to have a better CPU, GPU, etc.

And you do need "property" to use it for room-scale stuff, which limits it to being more of a toy for the middle class.

I'd think of it like the bit in Snow Crash where you've got rich people using custom-ordered avatars alongside working class joes using the Avatar Builder Kit they bought at Wal-Mart.

>>12794113
What about those Japanese internet cafes that pretty much let you live in them? You rent a small-ish room for a modest fee that gives you all the space and equipment you need to do your VR stuff while you share a cafe, bathroom, other facilities with the twenty or so other VR addicts you live with. You can rent for a few days or have an open-ended contract. As long as you're bringing in the money or neet-bux to cover the cost of rent and instant noodles, you're fine.

>>12792671
Give me the quick rundown on e william brown. I've seen him mentioned a few times in this general.

~10 days left!

What is an excrutiatingly testosteronous book? One that will provide me with a minimum of +10 to my gloriousness levels?

>>12794680
Just read He-Man graphical "novels".

>>12794680
gay porn

>>12794680
Masters of Rome

>>12794680
Look for bear daddy porn. Should put some hair on your chest.

>>12792671
I wonder how these authors feel when they see 180 customers on Amazon, but goodreads has 3000 ratings...
Something doesn't add up.

>Dune is getting a Fremen conlang for new film adaption
Nice.

>>12793123
Pedoshit? Even racist shit can get published so it can't be that.

>>12794680
Heroes Die by Matthew W. Stover

>>12793107
Name some I’d like to check them out

>>12795221
Baen Books is probably the biggest one. Includes such lovely series as the Honor Harrington franchise by David "somehow literally copied a chapter" Weber, the Paladin of Shadows series by John "Oh No" Ringo, noted weirdo Robert Heinlein, as well as whatever the fuck Tom "wrote in a critic of his books as a transgender tank AI and had them blown up" Kratman is shitting out these days.

http://audiobookbay.nl/audio-books/worm-parahumans-1-jc-mccrae/
so this happened.
never read worm but people keep recommending it. should i bite the bullet?

>>12792730
rewrite it. racist content won't just get you rejected, you could get blacklisted

>>12795479
It's an audiobook now? How long? 69 hrs?
The webnovel is long cat long.

>>12795540
its community made and apparently runs 7.4 days.

>>12795543
>>12795543
Fuck that shit. 177.6hrs. Hell no.

Cradle didn't need the sudden appearance of a gold master or anything, the fight against adversity and sort of mundane clan politics was perfectly comfy. That's all I wanted.

>>12795680
Well good news. Clan politics stays forever.

Anyone read Aliette de Bodards work? If so how was it?

>>12795691
What about the slow and steady progression and adverse odds? Really I liked the direction as it was, I don't really fancy when the hero suddenly jumps into great significance, it's rather lindon reaches patriarch-tier 15 books in.

>>12795680
He's writing xianxia, not wuxia.

>>12795716
The odds are always adverse. Lindon has never been in a fight where he wasn’t the underdog.

>>12795801
Give me an example that actually does this that's still fantasyish.
>>12795812
The mundanity is an important factor. It takes the comfy out of it for me when the progression is too fast.

>>12795825
It’s pretty much one advancement per book. Idk if that’s considered fast for you.

>>12795862
Wheel of time is probably more your speed. You obviously like plots that go no where or turns back on the starting.

>>12795898
Is for >>12795825

>>12795862
No that sounds very promising. I have just read too much chinaman powerfantasy where spiritual steroids made investment in anything current became pointless and an excuse to never develop the immediate setting and people well.

I couldn't get through book 2 of mistborn.

Sanderson is NOT a good writer. If I had to read how someone snorted one more time I was going to have an aneurys. Not to mention the awful plot going nowhere. Shame because the first book set up so many interesting questions.

>>12796197
Agreed. Books 2 & 3 have severe pacing and story problems. First book is the only good one.

Sanderson is a kid's author

>>12796294
He's Female's author

Is shadow of the torturer brainlet filter?

>>12795071
Sauce?

>>12792383
I wasn't here was there a sticky for her death?

>>12792383
>Gender and sexuality are prominent themes in a number of Le Guin's works. The Left Hand of Darkness, published in 1969, was among the first books in the genre now known as feminist science fiction, and is the most famous examination of androgyny in science fiction.[121]
Thanks but no thanks.

>>12796553
What are you even doing here?

I grew out of her books after seventh grade and didn't give a shit about her after that, I'm just wondering is she's having some sort of midlife crisis?

>>12796573
Not reading le guin, that's for sure.

>>12795279
You forgot about Larry "no clearly it is the children who are wrong" Korea.

>>12796582
Not reading you mean. If you don't who she is or what the themes in her books are, fuck off.

>>12796586
Did you forget Frederik /pohl/?

>>12796626

Don't you dare lump Frederik Pohl in with those assholes

>>12796642
Heinlein is an asshole?

>>12796611
That wikipedia page doesn't make a good job of making me want to read her works, especially sci fi.

>>12796586
He felt like too obvious a target.

>>12796648

Heinlein was actually a huge asshole, interestingly enough

But I was referring to /pol/

>>12796651

Not him, but she is unironically one of the unsung greats

>>12796672
I need to know about how Heinlein was a massive douche.

>>12796553

>>12796672
>Not him, but she is unironically one of the unsung greats
Maybe she is, but I'm not reading fantasy or sci fi with those themes and biases. I can make such exceptions for historical or political works for one reason or another, but fantasy (entertainment, really) is were I draw a line.

>>12796672
>one of the unsung greats
Greats, absolutely. Not really unsung however.

>>12796715
If you unironically refuse to read a great book just because its politics does not align with yours you're actually a retard.

this is bad yet fun

>>12796732
What's so great about them anyway. Why read it if I will find it boring because of feminist stuff? It's not like reading leftist works on politics or economics, were even if you disagree with it, it still might be worth or in fact necessary to read them.

>>12796748
Le Guin was a great writer and managed what some pretentious idiots cough Margaret Atwood cough calling their work speculative fiction try to do. The books are not feminist because they tell you that feminism is the shit but because they explore subjects related to feminism, for example gender. But it's never black and white, like it sounds like you expect it to be. And not all of her books deal with subjects related to feminism either.

Started reading Conan, not going to lie I feel like a chad now.

On a more serious note the way Howard wrote fight scenes is pretty interesting.

>>12796919
no one cares incel

>>12796941
>>>/lgbt/

>>12796941
Right, I'M an incel reading Conan the Barbarian. Project more why don't you?

>>12795702
I like her Xuya stuff but IIRC she hasn't released any story collections yet so you'll have to hunt them down in magazines or whatever.

A while back somebody on here was saying they liked the "Paris destroyed by Demons after WWI" stuff she wrote.

>>12796919
Check out one of his boxing short stories "Apparition in the Prize Ring." It's great and is basically Howard writing a Jojo fight.

>>12796945
>>12796966
Is it to much to ask that you idiots ignore at least the most low effort trolls?

>>12796990
>>>/lgbt/

>>12796576
G*sh what a greasy cake face!

any good shit on kindle unlimited?

>>12797359
jewish propaganda

>>12797118
I would nut deep inside her, and I'm not even white.

>>12797359
Cradle
Trysmoon saga
All the smut books
Me fuggin your mom, the novelization

>>12796576
she's still writing her Cormoran Strike novels at a steady pace, and letting idiots run her most popular franchise into the ground with unnecessary sequels. seems like she's doing alright to me.

>>12796576
>EHEHE Time to surrender Hogw- oh excuse me a second
>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAP
>vanishes poop
>Ah that's better, come forward and join us or die!

>>12792845
50 pages in and this sucks

>>12796741
good ending

>>12796741
>mfw when i read the thumbnail as "THE KIKE"

>>12797949
captcha ate my face

>>12797949
At least post a face when you mfw you colossal fucking fagwhore.

>>12797753
But she isn't a slam piggie or a brap hog.

>reading The Crippled God
>they'll write a Book of the Fallen
yoooooOOOOOOOOO

Third time's the charm- I'm about halfway through the first Foundation novel and I'm wondering if Trantor is ever really described in detail.
Asimov doesn't seem to be a detail type of guy so I'm starting to doubt that he will- but apparently Greg Bear wrote a prequel to Foundation and since Bear is more "hard" SF it perked my ears up.

Any Foundation experts here?
Alternatively are there any unrelated novels that extensively feature a Trantor/Coruscant-like world?

>>12798048
I don't regret starting the Malazan Book of the Fallen. I'm currently reading Midnight Tides, kind of bold to suddenly jump into yet another continent with different people altogether (well there's Trull and some Crimson Guard guys but still)

>>12797898
Give it time

>The way I see it, grimdark writers start with epic fantasy, add shock-horror, and declare it a corrective to simplistic, cookie-cutter fantasy by having injected supposed realism, moral and physical.

>>12798124
Midnight Tides is one of, if not the best book in the series. How far in are you?

>>12798330
783. It looks like the Letherii are about to be BTFO by the Edur

>>12798318
read KJ Parker then

I want to read about space marines, please help me /sffg/

>>12798318
It's ok for a fantasy world to be worse than real life

>>12798534
Armor

>>12795049
I feel bad for pirating, but even worse buying

>>12798554
Looks good, what about some /m/echa?

>>12798580
Combat Frame XSeed

>>12795049
kindle unlimited customers dont get listed as customers who actually bough the book. in several interviews different authors have stated that the vast majority of their income and readership comes from kindle unlimited.
surprisingly audiobooks are the least profitable but people like them a lot.

>>12798542
Nobody is saying it's not. The issue is when these kinds of authors go full edgelord with the sole justification of "I wanted to subvert outdated fantasy tropes". That shit is pretentious as fuck and shows they have no innate ability as a writer and rely and shock value instead.

>>12798652
FUCK YOU I LIKE EDGE

>>12798615
>surprisingly audiobooks are the least profitable but people like them a lot.
No duh. 20$+ a pop. Audiobook life is expensive. But rewarding for the 9-5 who has shit to do with their eyes when they get home.

>>12798734
My brother who drives a truck for living listens to hard sci-fi audiobooks while working. I tried to get into audiobooks myself but it just didn't sit right with me

Any other books that capture the feel of The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny (Witcher books 1 and 2)? Short stories about an adventurer getting involved not only with noblemen, but also with the common people, peasants and the like. I read Witcher book 3 and 4 and my lord, they drop the ball so hard it's unbelievable.

>>12798777
Witcher is a ripoff of Elric so just read Elric.

>>12798777
Elric, Dying earth, Gotrek and Felix (seriously these are warhammer books but they fucking rip)

>>12798800
Crom-pill me on Gotrek and Felix.

>>12798841
Sword and Sworcery, every book after I think the first one (which is short stories) is the two characters going and slaying something but the writer is smart enough for them all not to play out as straight up questing fantasy every time.

Protags are a fairly typical strong guy and roguish guy duo with the latter narrating. Starts off kinda small scale and ends up with gods and shit by series end.

It's not got the wit or poignancy of the best witcher short stories but its very solid for action fantasy.

>>12798860
What's the cutoff for the books? I'm reading a review of the first book from a site I trust and it claims the series becomes less good with power creep shit. I just want some more tasty Sword & Sorcery.

>>12798534
The Red: First Light. Its a good combination of Michael Crichton and Robert Heinlein.

>>12798534
The quartet of Doom novelizations are legit fun reads.

>>12798883
it creeps hard but the last book is probably the best one lol

>>12798948
I don't want no power creep GOTTA SAVE THE WORLD AND DEFEAT THE DARK LORD nonsense. I've read enough of that crap.

>>12798121
bump

>>12798534
Here you go!

>>12798121
You get a few more details in some of the later novels -- like that Trantor was covered in a metal crust -- but no, Asimov was never really interested in describing it in detail.

>>12797373
She probably fantasizes about being sh*tskinned all the time, so you would probably do her a favor.

>>12798940
>Dafydd ab Hugh

Do they shag sheep in the novel?

>>12799827
There is just something about cumming deep in older white women.
Bbl gonna have a fap after I finish this chapter.

>>12798915
I'd describe it as more Hideo Kojima (rampant AI co-opts the protag's squad and makes them fight against PMCs hell-bent on blowing up the internet with nukes to try and kill the AI) meets David Drake. ("war is brutal and soldiers are humans" vs Heinlin's "militarism is cool")

>>12799860
Nah he's a Mormon and the sequels are about the doom marine going to Salt Lake City and then fighting the US government, so it'd be kiddy diddling for jeeebus.

Some solid and wonderfully efficient Sword & Sorcery here with excellent prose. Shame Campbell never wrote more because the first four stories starring Ryre (his own personal Conan) easily puts to shame the vast majority of Sword & Sorcery from that same era in the 70s. I'd rank the stories I've read so far almost as high as Karl Edward Wagner's Night Winds.

What exactly was the Excession?

>>12800225
A bridge between universes.

>>12800225
The friends we made along the way

What are the best resources for learning how to write good sci fi and fantasy?

Books, YouTube, online courses, etc. Anything is welcome.

>>12800318
Spamming /sffg/ with questions of course, books are for nerds.

Why's it always gotta be travelling? Just fucking stay in one place

>>12800462
Because Tolkien.
>muh adventure

>read grrm
>get blue balls'd
>read Sanderson
>not 14
>read erikson
>too edgy
>read Jordan
>too autistic
>read kay
>just right

>>12800462
Masters of Rome

Read the first Cradle book. Wasn't as terrible as I expected, but I didn't like it. Guess I can ignore wuxia now. Maybe I'll read something good next.

>>12800177
>serveimage.jpg ad infinitum last couple thread
Yawn. You can't even hide your tracks samefag shill. Fuck off.

>>12800783
You need exposure to more books. After going through a couple score of books, cradle is like a breath of fresh air.

>>12800878
But I don't want to read more. At least not more like that. Power level magic bores me.

>>12800920
I'm talking fictional books in general. Shit like cradle and other Amazon trash breaks up the tedium. Why do you think there has been a rise in self published shilling recently? Publishing houses are forcing their authors to write trilogies.
Imagine the book cradle was 800 pages long, the same story you read, but filler interspersed throughout. That is what publishing houses are making their writers do. Take a 200/300 page story, and turn it into three, 800 page tomes. It doesn't help that they are forcing their writers at hidden-clause-contract point, to pandering to shit that throws off the story.
Go through a couple hundreds of those and Cradle seems like a work of art.

I can't go back to traditional published books. You can literally see the filler now, or how the author makes the protagonist make stupid decisions to extend the story, only to do the same shit they were hand wringing about earlier, at the end. I think it also has to do with wordcount. If they don't reach that magic number their agent will send them to add in some tea or coffee drinking scenes. Or maybe a scene where the civilian has to show the marine vet who toured the sandbox 8 times how hard and back they are.
Fuck traditional publishing.

>>12801167
Anon, he wasn't looking for actual suggestions. He's just posting blogshit to complain. Stop responding to it.

>>12801169
I wasn't suggesting anything...

>>12801169
How did you read this >>12801167 in less than a minute?

Lads, I've been re-reading A Game of Thrones and I have to say I like it more than the first time I read it. Sure, some of the worldbuilding isn't very coherent, but the story, the characters and the setting are quite charming. Pretty great book overall.

tfw you're years ahead of the curve in the sci-fi/fantasy blend trend, the grimdark trend, the 'dropped into another world in a manner linked to entertainment media' trend, and are also a pretty good book.

...but nobody reads because your cover looks like a dogshit 90s romance novel

>>12800865
>waaaaah people are talking about sword and sorcery in a fantasy general
Why do you keep getting triggered by this genre? If you don't like the genre then fine, start your own discussion on whatever you do like. But why do you cry like a little bitch every time someone talks about anything sword and sorcery related.

>>12801187
Thanks. With this post, it has finally dawned on me that this thread has quite the sample of posters who don't read--much like lots of posters on /fit/ who don't actually lift.

>>12801236
Fantasy books' covers are so shitty. Like, take a look at GRRM's covers, Sanderson's covers, Malazan, and I could go on and on.

What are some god-tier fantasy book covers, /lit/? For me, it's The Prince of Nothing.

>>12801306
Old prince of Nothing covers, maybe. Not the new face in a dish plate cover.

>watch video on the Blackfyre rebellion
>want to reread asoiaf
>know it will never be finished
Someone give me a clone pls

>>12801331
Pic related is what I'm talking about.

>>12801334
It will be finished.
As a show.

>>12801334
Just read the Dunk and Egg novellas.

>>12801345
Ye those are what I meant too. Top tier covers.

>>12801359
I have and he wont finish them either.

>>12801378
I only want cersei and myrish swamp to have a fuck.

>>12801187
Dude... You are suppose to read 4 times that post in less than a minute.

>>12801378
Don't worry anon, once he dies Brandon Sanderson will step in and finish the series, just like he did with Wheel of Time.

>>12801247
Because it's shit and you should feel bad and admit it's absolute garbage.

>>12801432
I'm sure he'd get kicked out of his church for that

>>12801264
How new are you? Don't you know these threads are filled with memers? They try to influence the general (mostly newfags) to read books which align with their political views. And say anything by someone who isn't white and male is trash.
The books they trash they never even read them, they look at the wikipedia article, some goodreads posts, then pretend as if they read it and know what they are talking about.
It's fun to see them get btfo by their own words, describing shit that never happened.

>>12801351
Sanderson will write the rest of the books when GRRM kicks the bucket next year

>>12801623
They should have Preston do it instead.

Will Kingkiller ever be finished?

>>12801823
Rothfuss wrote himself into a corner, so no.

>>12801861
*into a shed

>>12801815
>series ends with White walkers being nuked from an ancient military base under Storms End which is actually Area 51
Based

>>12801886
Frankly when I heard his theories for the first time I was impressed, both for intricacy and for his usage of Martin's older works. But then I realized that Martin would never make story that intricate...

>‘Kingkiller Chronicle’ Book 3 Release Date Sometime ‘Before Heat Death of the Universe,’ Rothfuss Series Gets New Graphic Novel

>>12801861
How so? I only read Kingkiller 1 and thought it was shit, so I didn't even bother with 2. Mind telling me what happened?

>>12800865
>>12801446
>>>/lgbt/

>>12801247
Incels are easily triggered by a chad genre like Sword & Sorcery.

>>12792383
Too bad Earthsea is so fucking boring

>>12802030
Pretty much this.

>>12801236
late 90s covers were usually pretty shit.

>>12801193
If you're talking about Game of Thrones, the first book in the series, absolutely. It's later that it really goes to shit.

>>12802022
Actually trannies like s&s and conan. They get boners from the thought of strong rugged men at the peak of masculinity taking liberties on their bodies, and forcing them to submit.
You're the filthy faggot for liking that trash. All trannies talk about is getting a strong daddy.

>>12802219
You sound like you talk from experience.

>>12801959
He kills no fucking king, and some other events that are supposed to be important (remember, the whole thing is a narration) can't and won't fit on just one book. The idiot started with the ending and used the worst method of storytelling (we know the protagonist isn't in any peril because we have him narrate the story)
The fat fuck is happy with the money he has now so he has no motivation to write. It's obvious he hates writing, hell, even litrpg authors write more than him. He cucked his entire readers.

>>12802250
meant for
>>12802011

>>12802219
lol I think you need to work on securing that sexuality, anon, because that's a whoooole lot of projection.

>>12801236
I get triggered every time I see a book with the movie adaptation poster as it's cover, with the actors on it. Like those dogshit lotr books and the hobbit.

>>12802219
I love how the right is obsessed with trannies these days

>>12802322
The game of thrones one is goat desu

>>12792313
>Conan the Barbarian

>>12802325
I like nothing about nowadays

>>12802353
*Conan o'Barbarian

>>12802362
Yeah actually me too

>>12802325
How is the right obsessed with trannies exactly when it's the left that never shuts up about them?

>i like conan because he reminds me of myself, a strong stoic type who puts those roasties in their proper place

>>12802393
>t. roastie

>>12794680
Gor series by Jon Norman

>>12796586
By children do you mean sjws?

>>12802576
What Conan story is this supposed to illustrate?

>another thread of based conan triggering discord trannies
based and barbarianpilled

I want to get into Conan. Where do I start?

>>12802917
With the book recommended in the selected fantasy chart.

>>12802917
With the Sprague de Camp books

>>12802917
with the marvel books

>>12802917
The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian
The Bloody Crown of Conan
The Conquering Sword of Conan

In the mood for some light read. What are some good popcorn fantasy books. Need a break from Malazan tier monsters.

>>12803044
A Night in the Lonesome October
Howl's Moving Castle
The Hobbit

>>12803044
Harry POtter

Remember to always read Conan.

>>12803044
Age of Legends

>>12803044
Cradle

>>12792697
I- I thought the scenes with the protag describing sunlight in the ship and the description of the voyage itself were pretty good

>>12802389
Because it's always pol that directs people to lgbt. It's like they want more faggots. Not surprising, seeing as the mtf crowd over there want blue eyes white male. They feel pol would magically want to fuck a dude's inverted penis, and not care they were fucking a dude, if they just got the surgery. I'm just waiting for the shock camps to start.

>>12802226
>You sound like you talk from experience
I do. I used to lurk in the mtfg over there, trying to reason with them and see what makes them tick. All they wanted was a strong rich daddy that gave them cummies and looked after them and paid for their gaymone therapy and surgery. They are all lost causes over there. They even tried to convince people that they were actually faggots, and not just curious as to what insanity happens in that general.

Anything new like this series?
Except the author isn't in the process of converting to Catholicism

Is there any good dark fantasy not in the flowchart/sticky/op?

>>12803519
>published 8 years ago
>anything new like this
You dino fags are mentally ill.

>>12803537
Depends.

>>12803581
>>>/lgbt/

>>12803609
thank you

>>12803633
You were supposed to say, "Depends on what?"

>>12803659
Depends on what?

>>12803661
Depends on what you consider "dark" fantasy. Do you simply want more grimderp to read? Or fantasy with a healthy dose of horror thrown in? Dark fantasy is a pretty nebulous term.

>>12803613
Do we have tranny hag fags lurking in these threads? Why are they sending people to that mental cesspit?

>>12803694
Fantasy with a healthy dose of horror sounds based.

>>12803197
I agree, all down hill form there though imho

>>12803752
Then I recommend the short story collections Night Winds by Karl Edward Wagner and The Throne of Bones by Brian McNaughton.

>>12803519
There are a lot of thematic similarities between this and the 3BP books, although obviously Liu and Wright take way, way different approaches to them.

Stuff like CtaT doesn't come along that often. I'm not aware of anything in progress, and Wright himself has (wisely) scaled back his ambitions. You can check out Xeelee and the Revelation Space books, although Wright did a better job than Baxter or Reynolds IMHO.

>>12803581
The last volume in the series was published less than 18 months ago.

>>12803519
By the way: what did you think of it?

>>12803044
Night's Master by Tanith Lee

>>12803854
Really really fun
I may have liked it more than it "deserved" as it had been forever since last I read SciFi, so it came off as fresh, even if it's all cliches and tropes.
The fantastic races/societies at where lengthily described in the 2nd+ book was my favourite part

Are Stanislaw Lem's Star Diaries about Ijon Tichy worth reading?

>>12803847
>similarities between this and the 3BP books
Both books had these slowly ticking plot-clocks, with the Trisolaran Fleet/Rania's Vessel (there was plenty of looming threats) approaching from afar.
I appreciated how consistently they where treated in a plot that covered hundreds of years.
The author not breaking his own rules or cheating, and still managing to surprise me, makes for good reading.

>>12792718
Yes, but do not read the sequels.

>>12796197
All three books of the original mistborn trilogy have satisfying endings.

>>12803519
I haven’t read it, but based on its synopsis you’d probably enjoy Ninefox Gambit and its sequels.

I read this book from Wright a few weeks ago

There is so many similarities to the 'Count to a Trillion'-series that I would strongly recommend waiting a period of time between reading each.

It's almost approaching to a remake
Differences being it's less serious in following strict science, involving supernatural elements, or not really, it's just that the author had to make it explicitly clear that the sciences used breaks away from what we hold as theoretical possible: Just so the story could have FTL and "life force"

Also it's shorter, and the protagonist doesn't go to sleep all the time. Also isn't really a character, just a point of view the plot unfolds around.

It kept having these weird sociological sentiments, that I couldn't tell where satire or something Wright was championing for. (A bit of both?)

>>12792730
The turner diaries were published

>>12803747
>Do we have tranny hag fags lurking in these threads?

I need motivation to read, I used to as a kid/preteen but it seems that high school beat it out of me. I really miss it, I just don't know how to make a habit of it again

I'm currently reading The forever war and I can't for God's sake properly imagine their combat armor. I try to think it as a mix of Vietnam era equipament and 2001 space suits but it gets me mad that I lack talent to try to do a concept art for it, and the comics books have ugly space suits.


Also, having finger lasers is quite ridiculous, but otherwise I'm enjoying the book

>>12804059
Yeah, it basically came off as a B-side to Count to a Trillion. I didn't really like it. He basically wrote it to make some quick cash, despite a few good ideas it's clearly not among his better efforts.

>>12804206
Oh, sorry. Read your comment out of order.

>>12804251

That one has the best space suit and still I don't like it. I try to imagine the classic m1 helmet but with a square vision glass that goes up to the nose and a softer tissure that protects the user head, but still not satisfacctory. Another design I imagined was the same m1 helmet but with the glass covering all the face, like a normal space suit.

Man, I wish I could draw.

>>12802688

>>12803519
Honestly just read the author's other stuff like the Golden Oecumene.

>>12804045
Yeah, unlikely. While (as mentioned) there are a lot of similarities between Three Body Problem and Count to a Trillion, Ninefox's science is much softer and has that whole YA thing where you get shoved into a club/caste depending on what you're like. Not to mention that Yoon Ha Lee and JCW are very far from each other in terms of their politics and worldview (if that stuff bothers you).

>>12803847
>although Wright did a better job than Baxter or Reynolds IMHO.
Yeah, Wright has an overall better grasp of how human beings *work* and how diverse they can be, while Reynolds' world feels kind of flat and Baxter is just kind of autistic tbqh.

>>12803860
Based,Tanith Lee is great

>>12803958
Yes, although they're not quite in the top tier of Lem's work they're definitely good.

>>12804271
It's clear that whatever the soldiers in Forever War are wearing is nowhere near the same quality of gear as in Starship Troopers. I agree that it's probably more or less a 2001-ish survival space suit with slightly updated Vietnam web gear added on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhGqWcJGY

>>12803163
Tower of the Elephant is good shit

>>12803860
>>12805148
I've read one short story by her which I thought was good (weird yet wonderful prose), but I'm hesitant to start in on any of her other stuff. Which of her works is the closest to Sword & Sorcery?

>>12804866
I'll give you that Machineries of Empire has its own version of physics which, at times, feels little better than the Force in Star Wars (though it's more internally consistent) but there's nothing really YA about it. The protagonists don't follow the requisite character arcs of the genre, and the writing is fairly adult.

Also I had the impression that the science of the series was based on taking advantage of some form of advanced quantum physics. The whole "if you observe a particle its quantum state changes" and entanglement and all that. Which is why it was so vital that everyone in the Hexarchate believe the same thing: The Calendar is just a version of quantum mechanics that is less chaotic and more predictable, and so its more easily exploited to do magic shit.

>>12804045
>>12804866
>>12805597
The Machineries of Empire majorly fucks up the third book, I would highly recommend stopping after the first book, unless you really loved the characters.

>mfw i just found out i can just download the entirety of libgen because they create database dumps every so often
my calibre server is gonna become huge

>>12805519
Cyrion

Was Bill's bike actually magic imbued or was it just his perception of the bike as special that caused it to be?

>the wizard knight is an into another world book that talks about vr headsets
Gene Wolfe is a visionary. I can't believe how good these books were.

>>12806238
Did you know Gene Wolfe helped invent Pringles?

>>12796386
one of the greatest books ever written

>>12805368
THE AMERICAN TOLKIEN

>>12805368
I still don’t understand what was so bad about this

>>12806253
Yes I did.... Anyone oldfag on sffg knows.

>>12805612
>download the entirety of libgen
How large would it be even?
>>12806299
For me? Nothing, I just like to make fun of gurm with other anons, even if I kind of like his books.

>>12806537
Terabytes

>>12796576
god, she makes me so hard.

>Austin Lively is a struggling, disillusioned screenwriter whose life is suddenly changed forever when he opens a door and is unwittingly transported to a fantastical medieval realm. Austin finds himself wielding a bloody dagger while standing over a very beautiful and very dead woman. Bewildered and confused, he is seized by castle guards and thrown in a dungeon.

Looks like Hollywood rejects have finally decided to get into the isekai power fantasy.

>>12792313
Best adaptation of sci fi short stories in years. Am I right?

>>12806537
not very.
its seperated by genre. the latest fiction library for example isnt even one gig big.

>>12806253
He's an engineer and made the machine that does the chips. It's why they made his face the logo.

>>12807304
>fiction library
Maybe not, but I do find quite a bit of books on history. What other sites I should use besides it, b-ok (former ebookzz), mobilism and irc?

>>12807319
>What other sites I should use besides it, b-ok (former ebookzz), mobilism and irc?
none really theres audiobookbay but thats about.. mobiilism and irc are pretty much all you want. you can sign up for myanonamouse but that isnt really necessary anymore.

>>12807041
I've only watched 3 episodes yet but I feel like there's more style than substance. Anyway, do anyone recommend any of the stories the shorts are based on? I thought about reading Peter F. Hamilton's A Second Chance at Eden after watching the first short.

Is there even a good magic school book?

I think the least bad I've read was Le Guin's, but even that one wasn't really a magic school book since I think less than 20% of the book was actually in one. I honestly don't remember reading one that I enjoyed. Is it just a bad concept?

>goat eyes
>goat legs
>but silky smooth skin and great bod
I don't know if I want to or not.

>>12807538
only a fag wouldn't want to fuck a goat girl

>>12807551
How does pochi do it bro...

>>12807419
>Anyway, do anyone recommend any of the stories the shorts are based on?
The Alastair Reynolds ones

>>12807538
thats the zombie apocalypse right?

>>12807447
i mean, it's mostly a children's book and anime concept, really. maybe you just don't like it or have grown out of it.
this isn't necessarily a magic school story (and not a book, either), but you might want to check out The Unwritten by Mike Carey.

>>12807625
idk, I thought swing shift was the zombie book.

>>12807803
>>12807625
>>12807538

>Remnant is a Farming Apocalypse Zombie story with Monster Girls with light LitRPG elements written by Randi Darren.

It's coming out 4/07.

>Steve doesn’t know who he is. Or who he was. He doesn’t know anything, actually. Not even where he is. Other than a vast open field of dirt.
>All Steve knows is that he’s apparently supposed to build a farm. At least that’s his only workable assumption. Given the number of farm-tools left to him. That and the massive number of sacks full of seeds.
>Unfortunately, this isn’t even the strangest part of this new life.
>Hidden inside the farm tools, Steve finds messages. Messages that appear in floating windows in front of him. Messages from his past self, telling him that he’d already failed once. But he has no idea what he actually failed at. Or how he can succeed this time. Beyond all this, and unfortunately for Steve, the world just underwent a radical change. A change that’s going to have Steve fighting the undead, bandits, nature, and even himself. All while the world falls down around him. And the only weapon he has is an axe.

>Warning and minor spoiler: This novel contains graphic violence, undefined relationships/harem, unconventional opinions/beliefs, and a hero who is as tactful as a dog at a cat show. Read at your own risk.

>>12807803
swing shift is urban fantasy apparently.

Roight, lads. I just finished House of Chains - after putting it down for nearly a year - and have come to the conclusion that Erikson's books drag, but have outstanding climaxes.

Should I read on? That is the question. it's either that or continue with WoT for me. Does Malazan get better from here?

>>12807538
i dunno why but this came to mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXvfaPPtbpM

Does anyone here have experience when writing a screenplay ?
I wanted to know what kind of pitfalls I should avoid if possible when writing something like this.
I need to make 3 10 page short examples of my writing style in about 10 days and I wanted to make sure I did everything I could to make it interesting to read.
I haven't written anything beyond silly little short stories so jumping into screenplay style of writing feels really strange way to do it in when I'm only really used to just writing down my train of thought.

Here is one idea I had for a story.
The first story that I've written focuses on the fall of man about 60 years into the future as the creators of advanced tech that we based all our tech on (creating amazing things such as fully synthetic bodies that can live in space, hard light structures and warp gates to travel to Mars within a day for example) come back and attempt to cause a mass extinction so that we won't become a threat to them in the future.
The main character wakes up a bit too late after the attempted mass extinction, being in a form of recovery hypersleep for a couple of decades (due to the recovery pod malfunctioning) after some augmentation surgery provided by the megacorp he worked for. Some humans survived but most of the human race is now gone and most of the androids and synthetic humanoids have been taken over by the creators to take care of the rest that remains so they can't rebuild.
A lot of humans don't even remember what the world used to look like since most of it is now wasteland that is being roamed by machines and brainwashed humanoids with the single objective to purge the earth of humans that have not been taken over by them. The objective of the protagonist in the end is to find a way to remove the influence of the alien creators from the human made tech, find a way to return the human population to before the purge and find a way to destroy the alien invaders.

This is the basic idea I've gotten so far.

>>12808088
dont describe things you would normally describe in a book. writing a screenplay is all about a brief mention of the setting and dialogue.
dont do prose or character feelings, thats up for the actors to interpret.
ex:
>He looked around him and felt a deep sadness for the broken state of things. He walked through the rubble of the extinction thinking about all the opportunities he had to change the outcome.
this is book prose. In a screenplay it would be more like
>[character] walks through rubble.

Thread Slave get to Work

THREAD KNAVE
THY SERVICE IS REQUIRED
APPLY THYSELF HENCE

>>12808044
>and have come to the conclusion that Erikson's books drag, but have outstanding climaxes.
Welcome to the club, took me 5 years to read first 4 books, was exhausted after every one of them and had to always read TLDR wiki reminders of the previous books events before starting the next one...
>Does Malazan get better from here?
Definitely, many people (including me) think the next book, Midnight Tides, is among the best in the series and after that i finally felt like the setting for the series has been laid (over 5 books...) and in the following books the "actual" events start to unfold... took me an year to finish rest of the series and i felt like it was easily worth it.

Definitely an unique exercise in world building and writing a book series, i still wonder to this day how Gardens of the Moon managed to initiate 9-book-contract from the publisher, it definitely wouldnt fly these days anymore.

New
>>12808385
>>12808385
>>12808385

>>12808295
Yeah you spend a lot less time with writing what exactly is happening or what emotion is happening due to the use of parentheticals to convey it.

Added an image of a part from the first scene because pasting it doesn't work very well.

>>12808301
>page 3 on /lit/

>>12808457
>310 limit reached
>thread reaches page 10
>no one makes it
>someone would have made it if they were told the limit was reached
>one day without sffg till someone makes it