/lit/ - Literature

*his ideology
*has become

sorry for my typos you high IQ faggots

>>12792633
>basically antidotes to white nationalism

>>12792633
invisible man by ralph ellison. one of the greatest novels of the 20th century. i hope youll identify with the lead character and realize black & white people have the same struggle.

>antidotes to white nationalism
cringe, just stop being a cringey /pol/ poster
Marx, unironically read him, he's good.

>>12792650
Okay, on another thought, just look around you. White people can be fat and stupid. Just be an anti-fat and anti-stupid nationalist. Like me. Although I'm not really a nationalist. I just don't like mass immigration, which relates to capitalism. Basically just be an anti free market capitalist.

>>12792633
why do you absolutely insist on me calling you a faggot, what does that accomplish

>>12792642
>biography of a black man
>he is an unrepentant thief and a liar in his youth

>>12792633
Part of /pol/'s board culture is a Mossad psy-op. Prove me fucking wrong.

Read Bernays' Propaganda.

>>12792633
Embrace your fears, do not hide them but understand them and surpass them and build an empire over the synthesis.

>>12792666
I've never gotten such based numerals

>>12792633
get off /pol/
get off the internet in general
read the classics
t. did the same thing at 20ish and now I'm doing very well, don't get irrationally angry at bait news stories, eventually reincorporated /lit/ and /fit/ for memes to send my friends.

>>12792666
I'm also a man of mass collective being, I've been a communist, a nazi, a homophobe, a tranny, mentally ill, a murderer, a capitalist, etc. All by surrounding myself within that sort of thinking, it made me question my own supposed free will. Lol, then I realised, free will is a meme. But I probably messed myself up mentally doing this since everyone are just supposed symbols to me now from friends to my teachers.

>>12792633
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/01/can_narcissism_be_cured.html

"But I want to change, I want to get better."

Narcissism says: I, me. Never you, them.

No one ever asks me, ever, "I think I'm a narcissist, and I'm worried I'm hurting my family." No one ever asks me, "I think I'm too controlling, I'm trying to subtly manipulate my girlfriend not to notice other people's qualities." No one ever, ever, ever asks me, "I am often consumed by irrational rage, I am unable to feel guilt, only shame, and when I am caught, found out, exposed, I try to break down those around me so they feel worse than I do, so they are too miserable to look down on me."

If that was what they asked, I would tell them them change is within grasp. But.

"So all is lost?"

Describe yourself: your traits, qualities, both good and bad.

Do not use the word "am."

Practice this

Instead of asking, "why do I feel disconnected?" ask the reverse question: "what would I feel if I wasn't disconnected?" Be specific, say the answer out loud.

Go ahead, take some time, think about it. What does connecting feel like? I'll wait.

Let me guess: you have no idea.

All you have for an answer is images, fleeting thoughts. Nothing concrete. Some words, some phrases, bits and pieces of conversations you may have heard or that you daydreamed.

Now ask yourself, where did you get these images and phrases?

Imagine two people: real, or from TV or movies, that are in love. Pick two people whose love you'd like to emulate. Imagine them kissing, looking into each other's eyes. Imagine them making love.

You wish you had a love like that, but you don't, and every time you try, to get it, it is failure. Here's the reason: are you imaging real people, or TV characters?

The 1980s said: "TV is a bad influence, pushing our children down the wrong path." Of course, it's Newton's First Law: a body moves in the direction of the force unless it is opposed by another force.

Where will they learn about love? They could learn from TV, or they could learn it from the generation adults with the highest divorce rates in history. They could learn about the difficulties of raising kids from an ABC/Disney Special, or from the generation with the lowest birth rates in history. They could learn about morality from Sesame Street, or... but Dad always remembered to send in his pledge to PBS.

Parents had no time for any of these lessons. So instead, to feel like parents, they worried that too much sex on TV would turn everyone into sluts. That didn't happen, I spent most of my twenties checking. What did happen, however, is that a generation of males started overtly, without shame, craving sluts, and a generation of women would often pretend to be sluts. Think about this: the act was that they were sluttier than they actually were, not more pure than they actually were.

Parents were right: TV could influence kids. But not in the expected way.

>>12792666
OP here. I would also describe myself as an anti free-market capitalist. The reason why my ideology sometimes leans towards white nationalism is because of my belief in ethnopluralism, i.e the preservation of all ethnicities across the world. I don't believe that fast, top-bottom imposed mass immigration from vastly different cultures/ethnic backgrounds will do well for the otherwise homogenous and stable societies we have - ultimately, I think man's innate tribalism will reveal itself and the entire continent will collapse along ethnoreligious lines.

>>12792703
Getting drunk is what helped me do this, I've been every sort of racial supremacist too, being a Jewish one was fun. But in reality, I'm just a bored zoomer.

>>12792721
But wait-- could TV be so powerful? No, of course not. But how much force do you really need to push a child in a polyester snow suit across a frozen driveway?

People ask: "why do you focus on pop culture?" Because that's all the culture 300 million Americans ever received for 30+ years.

Imprinting was famously depicted by Konrad Lorenz who had a gaggle of geese following him, behaving like him, in love with him. Less famously known: it took him only 48 hours to alter their identity.

And without the use of TV.

So now what? TV taught you how to love, it showed you what love looks like, feels like. But when you're actually in love, it doesn't look like that, so you secretly suspect you don't have the capacity for love, that there's something wrong with you.

Same goes for sadness. And it's worse when you're in the presence of someone else's sadness, you have no idea what to do. All you really know about experiencing these emotions is the script you got from TV. "Oh your husband died!? Oh my God, that's terrible! I'm so sorry for you!!" But you don't feel any of that. Nothing.

So you think to yourself, what the hell is wrong with me? This woman's husband died-- sure, I can fake it, but am I such an empty monster that I feel nothing?

Of course you feel nothing. Why would you?-- it's not your loss. What's wrong isn't your lack of feeling, but that you think you have to feel something, that you have to tell this woman, remind this woman, how horrible is her loss. You think the only way to connect with people is to have their emotions. You think she wants to connect with you. You think she wants your help.

The problem isn't your lack of feeling, it is that you think that unless you feel it's not real. You forget that she has a life that doesn't have you in it.

What you should say is, "I'm very sorry to hear that. Is there anything I can do?" and that's it. But that feels insufficient. You think this because you think that there is something you can do, that the sadness is not real for you so it must not be real for her and you thus have the power to change it.

She's not looking for you to be sad, she's not looking to you for anything, her loss is bigger than you. If she needs anything from you, it's sympathy, not empathy.

But no one taught you this. So you fall back on the character "man helping grieving widow." Action!

The problem isn't that you don't know how to connect; it's that when you do connect at all, you don't know what to do next. It's your unrealistic expectations of what connecting is supposed to be. TV is always about beginnings, not middles. Like love. The love you feel doesn't resemble the TV love because the TV love is the first three days of love, copied and pasted into a decade of episodes. But since you have no other reference point, after a real decade, you think, "I guess must not be in love anymore."

>>12792725
speaking about europe here btw

>>12792735
You are so unsure of your own identity that you don't know if you are supposed to be feeling, what you are supposed to be feeling, when you are supposed to be feeling. This is the same trouble actors have when rehearsing a character. They want to get it just perfect-- would Tom feel this? What's his motivation? And similarly you ask: would I-- the person I am pretending to be-- feel this?

>Narcissism is imitating by being. It is method acting all the time.

The problem wasn't TV, the problem was the absence of adults, real adults who took seriously their responsibility to the next generation, who lead not by words, but by behavior. Who, even if miserable or unfulfilled or unconnected had the decency to fake it for the next generation, for the people they touched. Who didn't cheat on their wives not just because they loved them, not just because it was ethically wrong, but because what kind of an example would that be to their daughters?

I know, everyone will disagree. Everyone, except daughters under 20.

I killed a mosquito yesterday, because it bit me and it hurt and I am not the Dali Lama.

The narcissist, however, says, "It's just a bug."

"I feel like I am playing a part, that I'm in a role. It doesn't feel real."

Instead of trying to stop playing a role-- again, a move whose aim is your happiness-- try playing a different role whose aim is someone else's happiness. Why not play the part of the happy husband of three kids? Why not pretend to be devoted to your family to the exclusion of other things? Why not play the part of the man who isn't tempted to sleep with the woman at the airport bar?

"But that's dishonest, I'd be lying to myself." Your kids will not know to ask: so?

The narcissist demands absolutism in all things-- relative to himself.

"But I had really good parents!"

Sorry, Leonidas, you were simply outnumbered.

The best of parents can't beat the overwhelming influence of everyone else, of everyone else's parents, of TV, of journalism-- of a culture that says, "well of course! The old ideas were wrong, we know so much more now! We are touching up the last pages of history, from now on things are different..."

18 years of the best parenting still can't beat the morality lesson at the end of an 80s sitcom, presented as if it were a fundamental truth, known to all, incontrovertible.

So what about the next generation, those under 25? If the problem was the unopposed influence of TV-- not the TV, per se, but the lack of opposing influence-- then the solution is some opposing influence.

I am nervous about recommending "the Classics" because it sounds contrived and pretentious, but anything that has withstood the test of time and is not something that was created to be consumed by current narcissist adults is as good a place to start as any.

>>12792633
how do i edit pics like this?

>>12792745
Do the opposite of what the narcissists did. They wanted to know enough to fake it. They read just enough to use the book to build an identity, so they read about books, but not the actual books.

If nothing else, reading will keep you out of trouble: every moment reading those books is a moment not doing something your current adults created for themselves that you're stuck with by default.

>>12792752
thanks anon, made my day

>>12792721
>>12792735
Based TLP poster. It's been a long time since Alone has been mentioned here.

>>12792752
the longest pasta I've ever seen

"the pandemic of mental anguish that afflicts our time cannot be properly understood, or healed, if viewed as a private problem suffered by damaged individuals."
You live in a hyper individualised time period where education has been dumped down to fastfacts and nothing needs to make sense as long as it accumulates Capital and elites want to create a universal culture of narcissism and consumption, disguising the process as philanthropy.
You've been groomed into a certain ideology from 17 through cyber space, as a zoomer I can relate. Read up on Randy Stair and see how much our personal computing spectacle is able to distort our being. This happens to almost everyone, everyone are distorted through this tool. Start with the Greeks.

>>12792820
who the fuck groomed us, and why?
I don't want to be a convenient pawn
I don't want to be a sacrifice by the left or right for their longterm power
I don't want to be a scapegoat
I just want to live my life.

>>12792633
Read crime and punishment

>>12792850
Capital
it's sentient

>>12792866
is there anything to that theory of algorithms pushing ad schemes and viral marketing to boost market effects?

>>12792633
>being white is bad
>being for the country you were born in is bad
Low IQ liberal shill.

>>12792885
>theory
There's no question here, this is how modern internet advertising works

>>12792895
I don't think being white is bad, nor being nationalistic. It's more so the ethnonationalism that I'm starting to descend into because of /pol/: an ideology that inherently will require forced remigration at some point to succeed. It's a flawed ideology, and I don't really know what to replace it with.

>>12792907
so it's a positive feedback hell loop?

>>12792633
kys negro

>>12792812
Check out this https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/01/im_building_a_rape_tunnel.html

>>12792895
>spending all your energy hating minorities on a transylvanian tap-dancing tetrahedron

Literal braindeath.

>>12792919
It's more like a very complex dynamic system with local feedback loop and overall unpredictable behavior.

Think of the air and water currents: we might understand how a hurricane is formed or why there are season but good luck predicting wind speed and temperature more than a week in advance.

Adopt libertarianism, you'll soon see that both sides of government care fuck all about the people.

>>12793017
Counterpoint:
Adopt LEFT libertarianism, which is libertarianism with a foundation of social support in key infrastructure areas to decrease catastrophe spending down the line

>>12792703
You murdered?

>>12793040
>left libertarianism
Hippies get out

>>12792633
Read leftist theory, unionize if possible if you have a job. Most white nationalism is born out of hatred for the system being externalised towards the 'other'. It's capitalist ideology that's fucking you over mate, they're the real enemy.
Jews never caused the average and median wages to have a huge divide. Rich kids with daddy's company did that.

>>12793040
If the bridge crumbles I'll just put armed guards at the ford and demand a toll, you aren't afraid of competition are you?

>>12793180
>>12792633
Also: Spend less time on chanboards and more in the real world, they're basically echochambers for alt-lite kids and manchildren.

>>12793180
>Most white nationalism is born out of hatred for the system being externalised towards the 'other'
Not everyone thinks rejecting philia is a virtue

>>12792633
Introducing Islam.

I am mad at you and I'm mad at her. Does she want me to destroy her? I don't understand. I just want peace.

Anyway, the scientific method was invented by a Muslim. You're welcome! Fuck you! Of course white people didn't invent everything! It was propaganda, you shit!

The dude who first experimented with the scientific method was Alhazen.

>>12792633
>hey bucko, wassa matta?

>>12793233
ALHAZEN. ALHAZEN YOU CUNT ALHAZEN.

A BROWN MAN DISCOVERED THE SCIENTIC METHOD, I'M A LIAR, AND YOU'RE A HORRENDOUS SLUT.

>Op asks for an antidote for white nationalism
>anons press the reset button and rec libertarianism

Op you're fascist now. White nationalism is just a subgroup of fascism. Did you retards forget you were already libertarians in 2015? Now you're so hungover and burnt out that you want back on the ride that got you here? You'd give anything to forget, anything to remember.

Or is this a new crop of gulible teens of voting age, ready for another round of duping?

>>12793180
>false dichotomy

You can be against the corporatists AND not want white countries to disappear, retard.

>>12793017
>he thinks the authoritarian regime of the Invisible Hand of the Market will somehow be less oppressive than man is

>>12792703
>>12793110
This. Please explain anon.

>>12793574

Robin Diangelo, pic related.

There is no such thing as white people being unable to talk about racism. The reverse is more true. Only 'white people' don't talk about racism and they're a class more than a race.

'White people' work in professional jobs, live in suburbs and small towns. They vote republican. Almost all Trump voters were 'white people', regardless of ethnicity.

>>12792633
Why dont you take some acid or shrooms. And not some bitch dose. Take 500 ug of acid and thatll pretty much cure you of your white nationalism.

But in all honesty, if you look into the ideas of buddhism, they explain the cause of all this bullshit drama - identity, desire, and attachment (of course this isnt the entirety, but its a goos chunk).

Most everyome full believe in the idea of a personal identity, that i am unique and different from everyone else. I am a particular entity that exists fundamentally distinct from any other conscious entity. That is a lie. You are merely a conscious being operating within the framework of a human body, that has been conditioned to have certain responses to certain stimuli. Your "identity" is just an ego and egos are bullshit, but not useless. You've based your identity on the color of your skin, you placed yourself into a category. People make an endless number of categories, and there is nothing wrong with categorizing stuff cause it helps us survive. But, these categories arent actually real. Ill just be blunt because I am a little lazy with explaining a of this. We are all one. You and me are the same, just different expressions of the One. Life is beautiful, but to live a life full of hate and fear is really tragic. But to have love in your heart.... that is something else.

Ask yourself "why" constantly, ask yourself why you feel some type of way, why you believe in this or that. And when you answer those questions continuing asking why to those answers to those whys.

Ill put it bluntly, youve been essentially brainwashed into being a white nationalist, the same way any other person is brainwashed into anything - positive feed back loops.

Life is too short to take it seriously.

>>12793334
If you think the very existence of brown people within a certain geographic area means that another group of people will 'dissapear' you should honestly either reevaluate your ideas or hit the stupid out of your head by repeatedly applying it to a brick wall.

>>12793233
Contrapoints is unironically a pretty good source for people who want to untake the redpill.

>>12793794
go with what this anon said, OP.

I lurked /pol/ pretty hard 5 or 6 years ago, and it was starting to fuck up and limit my personal narrative and view of the world. I took some intense experimental hallucinogens one night at a buddies, and after everyone fell asleep I sat on the couch giggling and thinking about everything until sunrise. the whole time, the television was on, and something about seeing all of the commercials and all the different races and how advertising was being directed made me realize that it's dumb as fuck to place importance in something as shallow as race, and how no matter what, everything is going to mix together in the end, whether you like it or not. the only thing that would stop that is some extremely violent acts stemming from absolute power formed by like-minded collectives. just doesn't seem like a good time to me. looking forward a couple hundred years, I'm sure there will be different homogenized admixtures of race in different regions (think the caribbean, latin america, etc. (hell, even the french are bastard children of the romans and gauls, but now they're just french as fuck)) based on what races inhabit them right now, and those people will take pride and laugh with humility about their ancestry, and just say it is what it is.

so might as well slow your fucking roll and be chill with everyone, if possible. read some epicurus, idk. good luck, OP.

>>12792633
Unironically pic related

>>12793334
Good for you, dude. I like how you use logical fallacies. When I was ignorant, I use to name drop logical fallacies to try and prove my argument right.

Anyways, think about infinity. Nevermind, might be hard for a square like you. Draw a square, then draw a square around that square, and then do that 100 times. Then ask yourself where do you draw the line?

>>12792633
It's pretty much as simple as letting go of identity politics altogether. That's the real red pill. Manufactored tribes are how the elite control the population. That is why social media is such a huge problem that they need to monitor and control. It weakens their grip. TV was probably the most insidious technology of the 20th century because it was so centralized. Look how fucked the most "TV generation" (boomers) is. "politics" as seen on TV is a joke, and when the elite lost even a slight bit of control the American electorate started to reveal what's beneath that mask. It's a lot uglier than Trump.

>>12793960
Either good or bad take depending on who the elites are in your comment. (it's just landowners and other rich leeches)

>>12793989
It's always bad, because if the elites lose control we don't have a strong civic and independently minded population to pick a sound replacement. It won't be hard for Google or some other megacorp to quickly and immediately sieze totalitarian control. The elites (oligarchs) are probably the good guys.

>>12793233
>>12793812
I second this, contrapoints is great.
She genuinely puts in a lot of effort in to representing the arguments of those on the other side.

>>12792703
Lol there are so many of us. I'm close to being a trap right now, I'm also a DeleuzoAnarchist (???)

>>12792633
you can't just will yourself into becoming normal again (trust me I've fucking tried). Those undesirable beliefs have to go away naturally.

My recommendation is to get the fuck out of politics. Trust me when I say that no matter where you put yourself on the political spectrum you'll end up miserable when investing your time in it. That may even mean leaving the country (in the most extreme scenario). My Uncle moved away from his Latin American dumpster fire country to Russia, and not giving a shit about the politics there he is just champ chilling. I plan on doing the same because the U.S. is becoming a political cesspool and I'm fucking sick of it.

>>12792633
>19 year old that has spent his last 3 years on /pol/

19-3=16
You violated 4chans global rules

>>12793622
you seem upset.

>>12792633
Jesus Christ dude relax
I'll admit I don't know what the fuck that ideology actually entails in too much detail but believe it or not you could try just being against immigration without going postal

>>12794056
Imagine having to use this much mental gymnastics just to bootlick.
I used to be in your position admittedly, but then I realised that, yes, people are able to make their own decisions independently of giant corporations.

>>12794114
Maybe he's a dog

>>12792633

Karl Marx, Hegel, Kant, Horkeimer and Adorno,

>>12793848
I sorta agree that once the mixing is sufficient enough that "racism" (not the other manifestations of tribalism) will disappear. (i.e., in most of Latin America there is still "racism" and "colorism") But to say that this is an inevitability is somewhat foolish as there is a natural aversion to miscegenation (strength varies by groups and individuals). If it is pushed by culture and/or the govt enough, it'll probably happen though.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103116300555
(Got more studies, but don't feel like digging them up. Use sci hub if you don't have access).

>>12794118

Don't you notice how all the people who write these books are white? They dress up classism as tolerance, sneering from the ivory towers. Delicious irony, from Marxists and Marx paralellists.

>>12794056
elites A > elites B

why tho? how do even know that they aren't working together? Not to say you're necessarily wrong but you have to expand on those thoughts.

>>12794192
>Culture is not just the people themselves but some external entity.
Cultural change cannot be pushed, it must be willingly adopted by the people, and the way to go about that is to put all boomers into gulags.

>>12794199
There is no cooperation between 'the elites' it's just a group of loosely connected people with similar positions of power that will work towards similar projects to preserve that position of power.

>>12792633
>ethno-nationalism
>bad or anomalous or in any way unusual

>>12794216
Depends on how you look at it, culture is an expression of people but one could say that certain groups have more influence on it than others and thus move the culture in certain directions. Regardless, fuck boomers! the shittiest generation ever.
>>12794228
Are there elite subgroups with certain competing interests? There's actually a lot of writing and research on elites, which makes it an interesting topic. Unfortunately, I'm not well read in that area.

>>12792633
How can you even form an ideology in modern /pol/? Its just shitposting, reddit refugees, lunatics and disinformation agents. Its literally impossible to have a meaningful discussion there on an important topic without the thread getting systematically derailed by /x/-tier bullshit, interracial porn, misattributed quotes or infographics that often contain falsehoods mixed with credible data.

Unless you are talking about 8 c h a n /pol/ which used to be inhabited by humans who had the intent and the mental capacity to discuss politics... until the recent christchurch shooting that is.

>>12792648
Unironically this if you just want an easy and fun read. To actually become enlightened, you need to understand the nature of propaganda and see the driving forces behind engineered events, in that regard Bernays's works are a great place to start, as recommended by anon here:
>>12792668

>>12792633
Uncle Ted

>>12794277
Weirdly enough I more often saw intelligent (if not strictly speaking sane) discussion on cripplechan /pol/ than here, and most of the time calls for violence were called out for glowing in the dark

>>12794270
There is legitimate competition between the very wealthy. But, like 1930's Germany has shown us, when push comes to shove they'll unite to preserve their power by any means necesary.

>>12794289
do you seriously see 1930s germany as 'the wealthy uniting to preserve their power'
Do you think the capitalists and bankers in London and New York were pleased with what the Nazis did?

>>12794192

So what you want is state-sponsored racemixing? Do you not realise this is exactly what the /pol/ack is all about hating and fearing? You want to prove them right?

I don't think an appropriate reaction to Nazism is a worldwide Jewish conspiracy to subvert the West, nor the reaction to Stalinism being capitalist exploitation of the 3rd world and the impoverishment of the working class.

Yet this seems to be a common idea on the left. Positioning one's movement to be what your enemies hate most is not really a constructive decision.

You need to scale down the concerns of your life, it doesn’t matter who the master race is and it’s arrogant to think any of us could figure it out. Worry about finding someone special, a fulfilling career, and the affairs of family and friends. Most people who obsess over anything, define themselves by something outside themselves, or only view the world through a tribes lens are usually just running from something.

>>12793233
This this this

>>12794192
thanks for the reply and the article. it was interesting, always neat seeing how at the root of all the human things, our behaviors are still determined by biology to a larger extent than we lead ourselves to believe. reminds me of in Thus Spoke Zarathustra when he says "You have evolved from worm to man, but much within you is still worm." and yeah, totally--like you said concerning inevitability--from what i concluded, it's definitely pushed on a cultural level, at least with the mainstream media in the united states. not necessarily a good or bad thing until subjected to consciousness. i think if anyone spends at least an hour or two watching current commercials/advertisements, they can get a pretty good idea of where a society is headed, because they're designed in anticipation of where the collective is headed in order to sell more. or perhaps it's vice-versa in someway or another. more than likely, it's a bit of both, like a feedback loop that keeps evolving, but who knows, i'm learning/realizing new things all the time, and sometimes new conclusions will completely negate old ones.

>>12794134
I'm not bootlicking, just being honest about the way the world works. Look how a modern American lives their life. wake up, eat fast food on way to work, wage slave, come home and watch Netflix, repeat. Millions of people (voters) live this way. Living completely manufactored lives. The population will crumble if the wheel stops turning for even a day or two. Suddenly every screen is lit up by Google with plans for all its users to work together through technology from the ai in 20 years. Let's get democracy back on its feet! Oh wait we have no idea what we are actually building from following orders! Oh wait we shouldn't have done that Oops too late!

I'm a 23 neet with no degrees, in a year you could be an expert in anything you wish, if you have an above average IQ and the VOLITION for it.

>>12794343
>wake up, eat fast food on way to work, come home and watch netflix, repeat.
Oh boy, cant wait to come home for another day of fastfood and netflix.

>>12794343
>American lives their life. wake up, eat fast food on way to work, wage slave, come home and watch Netflix, repeat.
You forgot the most crucial and fundamental part that defines what it means to be a productive member of society: Inserting your penis into a vagina every so often so you can un-incel yourself and not become an alt-right extremist.

>>12792692
Do this. You will still be a white nationalist because that's just the normal reaction to modern society. But you will become a better person.

On Jews and Their Lies

>>12794411
>>12794401
>stop projecting you alt-right extremist incel
I'm speaking from experience with real average people, and am pretty liberal. Please continue spending your time snidly mocking posts without saying anything of meaning.

>>12794343
>Not bootlicking
Wants to perpetually be mentally destroyed for the benefit of the elites.
Off yourself either literally or spiritually or become a comrade, these are your choices.

>>12794441
Liberals are accomplices to perpetuating wage slavery. Go wank of to queen Hillary or Pelosi as you snark about Drumpf while ignoring the larger societal conditions that put him there.

>>12794445
>>12794443

>>12794445
Post body with timestamp

>>12794456
>angry white men
>angry white incels
ftfy

>>12794441
I means that you're creating a very stereotypical view on the average american and furthermore have no proof for you being a fascist. Im just concerned that this stereotypical view could lead up to that, fren.

>>12794470
If I was a fascist the current state of affairs would excite me. They do not excite me.

>>12794470
And thats okay; im not saying that you're a fascist. But please consider that capitalism remains an enabler of fascism/right wing extremism til today shown here: https://www.fastcompany.com/40439316/are-you-ready-to-consider-that-capitalism-is-the-real-problem

>>12792725
that is a concern i share, mostly because i very much believe in european values and don't wanna see them eroded. but i dont think we are at a point where that is an actual concern yet. rightwing media paints this doomsday picture that is just not actually happening, but of course if you're in this bubble of cherry picked examples and mischaracterisation its quite easy to believe that. we have to slow immigration down and rather open it up for people who immigrate because they do believe in our values and wanna live here for that reason other than economic ones and instead help out with development in countries that struggle economically.
why do you believe in ethnopluralism though? i agree that its interesting to have different points of views around culturally. its always interesting how for example philosophy is tackled from a way different angle in eastern philosophy vs western for example. but there will always be genetic/cultural "clusters" with different points of views around the world and i dont know why we should interfere with the current clusters changing. even just here in my country people from the north and the south are vastly different. theres always gonna be different types of ppl around, why preserve the status quo?

>>12794528
>why preserve the status quo?
There's no reason for doing that except if you want to live in a more and more unjust system that benefits the bourgeosie and excludes the proletariat from economic success.

>>12792633
Why do you want to change? The fact is that whites are being deliberately demographically replaced in every western country, even the SPLC admits this and is proud of it. If you believe you, your family, and your heritage has a right to exist than white national is the logical reaction.

>>12792633
Read le based horsefaced fetishist of eastern philosophy

>>12794508
Yeah thought I smelled a shill. I'm huffing capitalism's tail pipe if it kills me. At least I'll be lit if the overlords decide to go full purge mode. Try not talking to people like you talk to your mom when she's angry at you if you want to manipulate them. Some people won't listen to you just because you say "I hear you".

>>12794508
The Ole poke with samefag trigger word posts (incel!) followed by the nice comfy propaganda "redpill" from a friend. Fuck off

>>12794551
nobody is "deliberately" replacing white ppl.
is anybody threatening your and your families right to exist? really? have you reported them to the police? i'm pretty sure they'd do something about that...

>>12794541
well that too but i believe thats unrelated to the ethnoplurality debate

>>12794551
>The fact is that whites are being deliberately demographically replaced in every western country
Change "whites" to "natives" and you got it right, somewhat.
There is no anti-white agenda (outside of some SJWs or whatever), but there is a pro-immigration agenda that simply doesn't give a shit about nations anymore and is willing to destroy them in the name of profit.

>>12794578
>>12794567
Im actually this guy
>>12794401

>>12794591
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee get the fuck off my board shill

>>12792633

jerzy kosinski - the painted bird

Human suffering is universal.

Segregation is horizontal - by class, not vertical by nationality/race.

>>12794599
t. 16 year old right winger

>>12793805
Yes, because animals have never become extinct due to a foreign population being introduced in their ecosystem

homer - odyssey

>>12792633
Read philosophy and understand you can't know anything anyway so you might as well be a white nationalist if you find that aesthetically pleasing.

>>12794600
>jerzy kosinski - the painted bird
The redpill taught me that this book is fake Jewish propaganda..

>>12794663
Read it and you will find out it absolutely is. Jews have an insanely tribalistic mindset and can't help but project it into everything they do.

>>12793849
My friend read this to get less red pilled and he said it had the opposite effect so probably not a good recommendation. I assume you already agree with the premise of the book.

>>12794707
It's just bait, anon.
The author of the book is pic related.

>>12792633

I'm amazed that nobody has posted Fanon's Black Skin White Masks. This will cure you of your virgin cringe for sure.

The Great Carve Up is a fantastic book for this OP.
Can’t recommend the book enough.

>>12793233
I agree with contrapoints on some things, but I just can't stand his fucking voice

>>12792633
Yake the blu pill

>>12794663
>>12794690

Didn't find any message in it, just flow of suffering with no deeper message or meaning.

I really liked it.

>>12794277
>Its just shitposting, reddit refugees, lunatics and disinformation agents
Sounds like an ideology to me.

OP here. Will take a look at the thread's recommendations. Would like to clarify that I probably wouldn't classify myself as a white nationalist, more so of an ethnopluralist (race is ultimately a social construct, even I can recognise that). Fundamentally, all I believe in is the preservation of all cultures, traditions, and peoples - and I can't see how ethnicity is not innately tied to that preservation. No, I would never support the forced remigration of immigrants from Europe, but likewise I would hate to see the native population of each country - whether that be France or Slovenia - be a minority.

>>12794806
>everybody living on the Polish country side is an evil uncivilized racist superstitious troglodyte
>Ebul nazis are even eviler though
>Good commies come and save the day
>Btw this was a true story about my childhood
>Oh wait no it wasn't sorry that was just a joke
>But the Polish government is trying to kill me and sent skinheads into my apartment that tried to kill me but I pointed my gun at them I swear it guys oy vey
No agenda at all

>>12794819
How old are you OP?
I'm growing more and more disillusioned with /pol/ ideology and the "alt-right" - something I've basically consumed non-stop since my early teens - with each new day. I'm wondering if it's a generational thing that we're all coming to at the same time. 1997 reppin'.

>>12792912
Just stop going on /pol/ and read the Greeks. Violence is bad and undesirable, find a solution to it.

>>12794824

As balkanfag book felt really realistic to me especially the evil backward countryside folk part.

>>12794839
'99 here. I think it could have something to do with being counter-culture, no matter what it was I've always wanted to oppose the status quo. That status quo for our generation used to be hard leftism, but now it's slowly turning into this edgy conservatism that I can't help but think is just really cringe. My past 5 months at uni, where I've been part of the unis conservative association, have made me far more economically left wing just because of the sheer amount of free-market fundamentalists in the association

>>12794839
'96 and feeling the same way, I would still be considered fairly extremely right-wing by a lot of people my age, but the reality is I've mellowed out a lot.

>>12792650

>this is your competition

>>12792633
Take some dmt and realize all life is connected, thus hating anything and anyone is equivalent to hating yourself

>>12794871
>>12794876
It sounds a bit contrived put like that but I suppose that's just how it is.
Having counter-culture reach the same heights, or at least share a stage in some way with status quo, definitely holds it up to much better criticism. This whole site always distances itself from its beliefs by obscuring everything in irony and sarcasm which makes it basically impossible for anyone to argue with you; having to defend holocaust denial or Jewish world control on the global stage is much harder when people who actually know what they're talking about can see your weak or fallacious arguments.

>>12794871
>>12794876
>>12794898
Good goys. Having your loved ones enslaved and tortured in front of your eyes is worth the price of not being called racist by some incel on the internet

>>12794871
People who are economically "right wing" tend to be pro-immigration and anti-nationalism. They're basically neo-liberals. Most of Western politicians are like this, no matter what they call themselves.
Don't take these left/right distinctions too seriously. It's mostly boomer-tier brainlet politics. Once you start examining it more closely you'll see it for what it is.

>>12794912
Whatever, retard. Keep believing in the fucking boogeyman if it suits you.

>>12792633
read siege you nigger

>>12792633
From a purely genetic standpoint the racist's views are completely nonsensical. The potential difference in DNA is greater between two black people than it is between a black person and a white person. Let that sink in.

>>12794819
>Fundamentally, all I believe in is the preservation of all cultures, traditions, and peoples - and I can't see how ethnicity is not innately tied to that preservation.

First study some world history, you will find that cultures and tradition often persisted regardless of blood. The Roman Empire spread latin culture over half of Europe and the Middle East and constantly settled immigrants in Italy itself long before the Germanic invasions. Latin culture and tradition stayed strong long after the original latio core got mixed up with former barbarians. Even after Rome as a state fell, the invading Germans also took up latin customs.

Basically, if a culture is strong enough it can assimilate foreign elements. If it isn't, than it will collapse in itself anyway even without immigration. Pepe and deus vult memes will not strengthen western culture. Create original art or philosophy, get involved with the church if you want to strengthen it.

Later you might want to read some Deleuze to learn that concepts like culture and nations are constantly changing, evolving new traits and incorporating foreign elements, so it is impossible to completely preserve them as they are at a given moment.

>>12794980
>The potential difference in DNA is greater between two black people than it is between a black person and a white person.
What a bunch of nonsense.
Look, you might not care about race and you're entitled to your opinion. But stop lying and deceiving people.

>>12794998
He's not lying, he actually believes in it, which is different
>>12794985
Post body
>>12794942
Post body

>>12794072
>she

>>12794980
>muh Lewontin's fallacy
This is retarded. You can derive this stupid analyses by comparing allele frequency between chimpanzees and humans relative to an individual locus. But the moment you take into account allele frequencies between several thousands loci you can classify, easily, the population into different racial categories, allele frequencies do not cluster similarly between populations. There are differences between races, and there are cognitive differences between them on average, live with it.

00 kid here. Im slowly growing more and more into a legit fascist everyday. Im more taditionalist now but once youve taken the redpill its hard to go back. I understand completely why people would want to turn back but it wouldve been better to not take it in the first place.

People just need to realize that being "right wing" or "left wing" is a low iq way of looking at politics.

>>12795005
>He's not lying, he actually believes in it, which is different
He only believes that he believes
>>12794980
>The potential difference in DNA is greater between two black people than it is between a black person and a white person.
That would be for an American black and an American white. Not everyone in this world are complete mutts.
>>12794985
Syncretism isn't preservation. It's just dilution of the original culture.
>>12794985
>Create original art or philosophy, get involved with the church if you want to strengthen it.
This is very true. We need creators, not spectators. Even if we get rid of the third world hoardes, the Modern western psyche is in a death spiral fast approaching it's extinction. Nothing grows from dead soil, let alone a dead soul.
>>12793180
Perhaps this is true amongst the lower rank & file, crystal meth smokers. However, I find it steams from a shear disgust and revulsion at the perversion of all that is beautiful and the utter disregard for the idea of beauty itself. I do not feel hated, but disgust.
>>12794871
'99 gang too OP. I have the same thoughts on the edgelords that have absolutely swarmed the movement like drosophilia swarm a melting Jollyrancher on a Missourian summer day that's hotter than two rats fucking in a wool sock.

Generation Z has a bimodal distribution politically, while Millennials had a skewed one. However, the left still predominates in our generation given the demographics, but I do agree among white, non-Jewish males, you will find the vast majority will be sympathizers of alt-right talking points, with a decent number active sympathizers. There just aren't that many people who fall in this niche group of Christian white males in the university system anymore (at least at elite universities, I go to HYP)

>>12795059
>People just need to realize that being "right wing" or "left wing" is a low iq way of looking at politics.
This, both are different sides of the same shekel

>>12794912
this post exudes beta energy

>>12795063
>like drosophilia swarm a melting Jollyrancher on a Missourian summer day that's hotter than two rats fucking in a wool sock.
legitimately LOL'd

>>12795063
>Syncretism isn't preservation. It's just dilution of the original culture.

That sounds like those SJWs WHO complain about cultural appropiation if a white person decides to eat a taco.

There is no "original culture". Your culture already comes from a bunch of different sources. And those sources were influenced by others too. Like, Christianity comes from Jews but Jews were influenced by Greeks, early Christians got influenced by the Persians religion and now Christianity is viewed as a cornerstone of Western culture.

All cultures are already syncretic.

>>12795125
>early Christians got influenced by the Persians religion
They are heretics and this isn't church doctrine.
>muh manicheans
>muh zoroastrians

>>12794884
>realize all life is connected
Utterly trivial. There are good reasons to hate, viewing your personal life from a meta perspective is delusional and will amount to nothing.
>Take some dmt
I've done psychedelics, blasted off, saw patterns and weird entities, now I'm national socialist.

>>12795125
>That sounds like those SJWs WHO complain about cultural appropiation if a white person decides to eat a taco.
Apples and oranges. Eating tacos in America hasn't replaced some fundamental Americana value. Syncretism, where you tell us not to worry to the extent it's happening because that is just how history rhymes and rolls, needs to be guarded against replacing the fundamental pillars of Western civilization. It is important to note that this syncretization is longer coming from other European cultures/ethnicities, with a common heritage of subjugation under the Roman Empire,, but from third worlders who are not are part of this time-spanning tradition. The future is heir to the past. These people do not share a common past with us other than us rape and pillaging them. Western values never took root in their psyches.

why is the plague of marxists back on /lit/?

>>12795125
Eating another culture's food is not the same as agreeing with the values of their society. I hate you braindead fagggots.

>>12794781
>his

>>12795159
Contrapoints discord.

>>12795159
>back

>>12792633
i beat my machine
it's a part of me
it's inside of me
i'm stuck in this dream
it's changing me
i am becoming
the me that you know
he had some second thoughts
he's covered with scabs
he is broken and sore
the me that you know
he doesn't come around much
that part of me
isn't here anymore
all pain disappears
it's the nature of
of my circuitry
drowns all i hear
no escape from this
my new consciousness
the me that you know
he used to have feelings
but the blood has stopped pumping
and he is left to decay
the me that you know
is now made up of wires
and even when i'm right with you
i'm so far away
i can try to get away
but i've strapped myself in
i can try to scratch away
the sound in my ears
i can see it killing away
all of my bad parts
i don't want to listen
but it's all too clear
hiding backwards inside of me
i feel so unafraid
annie, hold a little tighter
i might just slip away
it won't give up, it wants me dead
goddamn this noise inside my head

>>12795158
base

>>12795174
come on, have a word with yourself

>>12792633

The arctic will never be fully frozen again in our lifetimes. We had a sattelite ready to launch in order to continue surveying the Arctic; Congress ordered it destroyed. Capital and the military-industrial-prison complex have already won. Our billionaires are building survival bunkers and troubleshooting how to retain mercenary bodyguards once shit hits the fan and money is meaningless. Climate change is already killing people in countries you don't care about. Famines, droughts, fires, and the destruction of once-arable farm land will force unimaginable numbers of survivors to migrate to the remaining habitable zones of the earth. Plague is likely. Death on a scale you can't imagine is almost certain.

You were sold white nationalism and the fiction of white genocide to distract you from what's actually happening. If you wanted to "prevent immigration", as in remove its causes, you missed your shot by about 30 years. 50+, if you're going by the autonomous actions of the CIA.

The good news is that no matter what ideology you use to view the world, it won't change a damn thing. You might as well be a decent human being with empathy - it'll increase the odds of your long term survival.

>>12795159
The easiest people to troll on 4chan are now underage incels who watch pewdiepie. Try to keep up sweetie

>>12794417
Scum

>>12795158
>>12795167
What values are getting replaced right now in the US by values of other cultures? Europe and Islam is one thing but it's not like Mexicans are doing anything drastic to the US apart from bringing down wages, increasing crime and making Spanish into a second official language in some states. One can object to these but it's hardly civilization-ending.

Culturally those subjugated Celts and Germans were much further away from Roman than modern Hispanics are from Americans. The US assimilated immigrants in the past who were much more foreign, like the Irish or Eastern Europeans.

>>12792633
Honestly just ignore politics. Politics are a mind virus, the general populace was never meant to be invested in politics. The media perpetuates the idea that you should constantly be plugged in to what's happening on a global scale because it's easy for them to churn out 24/7 fear mongering content about it and rake in advertising money. Focus on yourself and your immediate friends and family, worrying about places out of your reach does no good for you

>>12796093
I'm just happy I live in the US instead of the old world. I think our odds here are better.

>>12796108
sez u

>>12792633
The Holy Bible

>>12792633
Thomas King - The Truth about Stories

>>12796213
Plus most Hispanic immigrants actually like America and want to be accepted here.

>>12792633
>You became a white nationalist because you actually haven't noticed the REAL enemy

Don't think in this fashion, it will become much easier on you.

Also, read Studs Terkel and watch David Hoffman's videos on youtube(They are both Jews btw, but they bring actual perspectives to you by actual normal and interesting people).
This sort of stuff reconnects me with reality, It's good to figure stuff out by different terms.

>>12794411
shut up incel you’re not fooling anyone

>>12792633
Hey shawty, I think I know who you are.

>>12796218
based post

why are there so many commie incels here? worse than /pol/tards

>>12796844
you oof

>>12796608

Pretty much.
>It is better to live in the belly of the Beast than at its jaws

We won't be getting out of it entirely unscathed, but in this position we have an excellent view of the death-agony of the Leviathan.

>>12795167
I like eating mexican food, but I would really like it if they went back home

>>12796931

They’ll go back to Spain if you go back to Ireland.

>>12792633
You probably just hold what would be considered mainstream beliefs on foreigners pre-Holocaust. Calm yourself.

>jihadis kill thousands of people around the world, Mexicans flay people's faces off, the Jews shoot people at their border, African tribes genocide each other etc.
I sleep
>1 nutcase goes on a shooting rampage
Oh, the humanity! How could I have ever held such an abhorrent, xenophobic worldview? Please recommend me some leftist literature to deradicalize me!

>>12792633
take the green pill

>>12797041
it is pretty surreal that you can actually just convince an ethnicity to hate itself

>>12796702
Based Hoffposter

>>12793180
fucking commie

>>12792633
Gravity's Rainbow should clear all those redpills right up tbdess

>>12797041
This

>>12792633
Read Ride the Tiger by Julius Evola. You probably mostly agree with his worldview already so you won't feel preached to, and the book is about how he keeps his head together and enjoys himself in clown world while thinking his own thoughts.
If you can manage, get off the internet and enjoy yourself for a while. At least for now the world has a lot of experiences to offer and even everyday life has lots to relish if you aren't a total loner misanthrope.

>>12793849
My dream is for this book to become a reality and for people to stop talking exclusively about their ethnicity.

>>12797055
Hilariously, it's done in an extremely self-centered, narcissistic way. Third World peoples aren't truly viewed as moral agents capable of knowing right from wrong, they just react to Western actions in a mechanistic fashion, whether it's "the voices of colonized peoples cry out for vengeance and we deserve it!" (Progs) or "They hate our freedoms!" (Neo-Cohens). They aren't really viewed as people but as props on the stage of an overarching Whiggish morality play in which Westerners are the actors.

>>12797041
>You probably just hold what would be considered mainstream beliefs on foreigners pre-Holocaust.

That's not a good thing

>>12797107

>>12796093
Extraordinarily based and redpilled

>>12797210
Yes, it is

>>12797310
lol nope

>>12793812
>>12794072
>>12794781
>genuine shilling for a tranny
Absolute degeneracy. Kill yourself along with the 40%

>>12797321
Okay whatever you say buddy boy

>>12794589
This is true, but in modern times whites are the main victims. And unlike the natives that were the victims before, whites have the capibility to fight back, they are just choosing not to. The goal of white nationalism is to get whites to fight back, and there is nothing wrong with that.

>>12797328
I accept your concession

>>12797210
Are you Jewish?

>>12797337
>in modern times whites are the main victims.

ikr just yesterday mummie BURNED my tendies and she made me go to my room with no computer time before bed just because I called her a cunt. She knows i need the computer to help stop white genocide with my friends online too mossad must have gotten to her

>>12797342
no just a decent human bean

>>12797348
Post body

>>12797348
>be forced to pay by tax for the existence of people that rape your children and rob and murder you
good luck in the civil war in whatever country you live in

>>12797352
I would but I broke my phone after sitting over it

>>12797355
Yes I'll gladly pay to keep that element locked in prison :)

>>12797351
Cringe

James Baldwin

>>12795053
No they only can for continental ancestry like European, Asian, African, etc.
all of which consists of what are considered culturally numerous different races each. Humans all share the same homo sapien ancestral lineage and are separate species from chimps because our ancestries diverged to the point of warranting new speciation which has NOT happened for homo sapiens, hence race being a social construct.

>>12797404
Race is not a social construct

Anglos and Swedes are closer to each other genetically than either is to Mongolians, and this is not arbitrary.

>>12797414
and there is only one race the human race :)

>>12797414
And you're probably more genetically similar to the people in your town than "white" people in either Sweden or England or Mongolians :/
Taxonomic classification isn't based around genetic similarity, we're actually more similar to moss than chimps but no one says moss is our closest relative. You and every Swede, Anglo, and Mongolian can directly trace your ancestries to the same homo sapiens.

>>12792633
In my personal experience flirting with /pol/shit I found that dehumanisation is the foundation upon which everything else rests. Once I began thinking about everyone as a human, I stopped being able to take that stuff seriously. Reading Tolstoy is what brought about this change within me. Read War and Peace, or Anna Karenina. I'd say read Tolstoy in general but these are his most well known works so why not start there. The compassion, understanding, and wisdom with which he approaches humanity has affected me deeply. I don't think I really understood compassion and Christian Love before reading him, and then something just clicked in my mind while reading these books and it never went away.

>>12797447
>we're actually more similar to moss than chimps
why would you just lie like this lmao

As for us all having a common ancestor no shit, all life on earth has a common ancestor. The point is that you can divide the human species into different groups and subgroups based on genetic distance, and then you can compare whichever of these groups you like with one another and note differences.

>>12797464
yeah but that doesn't justify racism

>>12797452
this

>>12797464
So you're a different "race" than Swedes and Anglos in Europe? African-Americans are a different race from the Sub-Saharan Africans? There's a reason why the scientific community doesn't acknowledge the idea of multiple races anymore.

>>12797480
>There's a reason why the scientific community doesn't acknowledge the idea of multiple races anymore.
capitalist deterritorialization?

>>12797474
Racism is a simple consequence of races existing. You cannot like every race exactly 100% the same, hence racism.

>>12797480
>So you're a different "race" than Swedes and Anglos in Europe? African-Americans are a different race from the Sub-Saharan Africans?
Yes.

>>12797480
>There's a reason why the scientific community doesn't acknowledge the idea of multiple races anymore.
yeah...because you lose your job when you do that

Are you seriously incapable of dealing with nuanced categories? Anglos is a categorization, Germanics is a larger one, Europeans, Eurasians, etc. African americans are largely Western african with european mixture, somethign like 15% on average I dont remember.

>>12797486
How many races are there then if not your subjective social construct of an idea?

>>12797486
No, Racism implies malign hatred towards other races, not just simple acknowledgement of differences and preferences, my incel friend.

>>12797490
That only makes sense if you define race as a layered cake. Are you suggesting the people of your home town are a separate race from the people next town over? How many races are there exactly?

>>12797490
> yeah...because you lose your job when you do that
What about university student in related fields? Do you actually believe that political correctness could suppress any substantial evidence to the contrary? Do they pay biology undergrads to keep their mouths shut?

>>12797494
You are either incurable dumb, or willfully obtuse.

The 'subjective' part is how large you cast your net, the division of genetic distance are never subjective. Think of a tree, how many branches are there on it? It depends how small a branch is before it becomes a twig right? But a twig on one branch belongs definitively to that area of the tree, and not to a branch on the other side

Races or ethnicities are mroe complex because the branches can merge so you have populations composed of a mix of disparate parts of the tree, but the general structure is still clear

>>12797503
you don't need to pay anybody, nobody wants to be ostracized by all of society. You don't seem to understand how taboos work, they prevent people from even thinking these things in the first place.

>>12797505
so your definition of race boils down to "dude trust me" got it.

>>12797511
I guess we're going with 'incurably dumb' then.

>>12797494
Some guy (biologist) said there are roughly 100 human "races" aka groups of people you can distinguish visually. Don't take this too strictly, though.

>>12797498
Great. Now if only everyone else could agree with that definition, so that you wouldn't get called a racist for not wanting to live with certain races.

>>12797503

Are you stupid? James Watson, ring any bells?

>>12797505
Are you arbitrarily defining race by limbs or skin color or genetics or what? You went from subjective definitions to rambling nonsense.
>Races or ethnicities are mroe complex because the branches can merge so you have populations composed of a mix of disparate parts of the tree, but the general structure is still clear
Humans did not "merge", we started as the same species of homo sapiens with all descended directly from the same ultimately and it has stayed that way thus all humans to this day being the same lineage.

>>12797503
https://www.livescience.com/64492-james-watson-stripped-of-honors.html

>>12797530
Genetics are not arbitrary they are a record of how human populations have been separated in time and evolved apart from each other, and it is not rambling nonsnse, it's called a phylogenetic tree, you are the one who chose to barge into a discussion about a subject you know nothing about.

What merges are populations of humans which have been separated for 10s of thousands of years, ie. different 'branches' of the human tree.

>>12797532
>At a conference in 2000, Watson suggested a link between skin color and sex drive, hypothesizing that dark-skinned people have stronger libidos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Comments_on_race
Holy shit the racists favorite disgraced scientist has a blacked fetish.

>>12797530
>everything is a spectrum therefore nothing exists
can you people go find your own ship to sink pls

>>12794072
>>12793233

>>12797510
Have you spoken to academics before? If there is evidence, people will hear you out.
>>12797532
>>12797526
His claims are unsubstantiated, and because it's unsubstantiated, people are accusing him of racism, since there's no reason to say that other than racial prejudice. Having achieved something doesn't exempt people for providing evidence for their claims.

>>12797545
Funny, your previous post would suggest they merged as though they had totally separate origins rather than drifted apart.

>>12797552
After you :)

>>12797559
No it would not, my previous post used a tree metaphor, a tree's branches all clearly come from the same origin, the trunk.

I have no more time to waste wiht your brainlet attempts at argument

>>12797564
cringe

>>12797569
The same homo sapien tree...
You've just got BTFO so GTFO niggerbitch

Whatever happened to book recommendations?

>>12797641
Read Imperium by Yockey

>>12797574
Says the cringe racist lol

>>12792642
If anything Malcom X complements white nationalism.

>>12793545
>He doesn't understand that libertarianism is not synonymous with capitalism

>>12793574
lol

>>12792633
Unironically read Taleb Nassim's work. He's wrong about a lot and takes shit too far in some directions but he's a good intro for understanding complexity theory which will likely be the most important scientific discipline of the 21st century because of how flexible it is at describing what we can predict / can't predict about the future

>>12792633
Unironically read Evola, lots of whignats cite him but have obviously not read him. He points out pretty clearly how a lot of radical rightist resentment is congenial to radical leftism, as well as how a lot of rightist world-conceptions (even back decades ago) were afflicted by the same Oedipal longing that most political movements are, and not about genuine, masculine self-actualisation

>>12794281
based

>>12797702
Fuck off with your freudian mysticism

>>12797657
you probably get a jolt of adrenaline when you see a black person on the street.

>>12797657
>Unironically calling someone a racist

ew

what if the real nazis were the friends we made along the way?

>>12797731
Who wouldn't want their dirty neg hole pozzed by a big strong black man

>>12797452
Most Christians pre-Holocaust, if you espoused views that would today be considered Tolerant, Loving, Kind towards foreigners etc. by the mainstream, would think you were some kind of batshit sociopath.

>>12797788
Religion is just one influence on people. The environment in which people live is usually the biggest influence, and they're usually not compatible with Christianity. Americans today who profess to be Christian endorse some very unchristian things. But that aside, I'm not pushing Christianity on OP, and I don't think that you have to be a Christian or embrace it to get something out of Tolstoy. What I think OP would benefit from seeing is Tolstoy's approach to characters. For example, your average /pol/ack would think of Anna Karenina (the character) as just a worthless roastie. What we get in Tolstoy is a very complex, fallible and likeable character that we can condemn but also understand and pity.

>>12797788
This is your brain on polshit

>>12797853
he's right and you have no actual argument except spluttering and disbelief

>>12792633
A political book won't help you. Realize that politics don't matter as much as you believe they do and read literature on the subject of mindfulness written by people with decades of research and practice.

>>12797897
Also a lot of people on /lit/ are leftfags. Maybe you posted this intentionally knowing this so you can get (you)s. They're just going to spam this thread with their retarded and pretentious ideologies.

>>12797897
>>12797911
I think this is more relevant to people on the left than it is the right in general (discounting pol). Reason people is that I many of the get genuinely upset/emotional over the world being a “bad place”. The world is literally always going to be bad in one context because it’s a relative term, things we consider bad now (not being able to get a healthy, nutritious meal) weren’t 50/100 years ago (when regular meals weren’t a thing for the poor so that the concept of nutrition wasn’t even on the radar).

If you base your well-being on something that will never satisfy you and will in some way always be bad then you’re not going to have a happy life. It’s much better to focus on the things in your reach and influence, just accepting the world as it is.

>>12792650
Yes, because the Marxists were spot on in terms of judging what kinds of individuals will gravitate towards eachother and form alliances.

Fuck off with this sort of shilling.

>>12792633
>Book suggestions for a 19 year old that has spent his last 3 years on /pol/ and is afraid of what he is ideology is become in the process
>basically antidotes to white nationalism

The antiliberal part:

Rawls, Theory of Justice

The white part

Anthony Appiah, Race, Culture, Identity: Misunderstood Connections

The nationalist part:

Breen, O'Neill, S. After the Nation? Critical Reflections on Nationalism and Postnationalism

>>12794072
>she

>>12793110
>>12793587
okay I'll bexlaain but i'm drunk I went to some south american country, got a hooker and made her overdos on her drugss, and then left her off at somr street. Just gave her drugs while she was passed out, and then sh vomited, I made her drown in it. Like, I'm pretty sure sh e was dead. hahhahn. Just you know, ytry everyting I guess.

>>12797556
Isn't it funny how all of the marxists are de jure materialists but as soon as something bad happens they fall back into idealism

>>12797556
Communists/Progressives killed many people as well, but rising Racial Maoism in the US is no cause for concern, bigot.

>>12798566
what?
identifying the codes and signs that members of a group use identify and communicate with each other isn't 'idealism'
being able to read isn't 'idealism'

>>12798688
what are the economic causes of white nationalist terrorism

>>12798688
Contrapoints is more concerned with moralistic thought policing than analysis of material conditions, as made abundantly clear by that post.

>>12798697
beyond the scope of my interest right now, which is just pointing out that you're using words incorrectly.

>>12798708
lol ok m8

>>12797414
Race is very real, but it is based on genetics and not skin color. There is no one "white/black/Asian/" race, if anything there should be more races, not less ones.

>>12798697
Alienation from their labour and their fellow man caused by Capitalism.

>>12798704
even if true, still not idealism. marxist materialism is not eliminativist.
>abundantly
look up what that word means and ask yourself if it really was the appropriate modifier

>>12792633
>Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
It's pretty wholesome, overall.

>>12798547

You're anti-social and suffer a personality disorder that inherently makes you dangerous and malignant.

Your kind will be hunted like rabid dogs and exterminated in the future. I hope you will kill yourself, it is the most useful thing you can do.

>>12798716
>marxist materialism is not eliminativist.
...now might you be saying that not all social organization is the result of material conditions? Is this possibly what you're hinting at

>>12798732
cringe, I'm just a bataille-esque person. The most based kind.

>>12798735
as i wrote here >>12798708, i am not interested in giving a defense of marxism or materialism or any combination or variation or combinatorial iteration thereof
all i am saying is: you don't know what the words you are using mean.

>>12798753
Oh I see we're wrong but you aren't interested in explaining why

absolutely lol this is why you guys have to censor the shit out of your forums

>>12798739

No you're actually just an extremely boribg and run of the mill person who is mentally deformed with anti-social personality disorder. You are almost certainly someone who overly estimates their own importance, has narcissistic traits and gets off on any thing that gives you a sense of power over others, like killing.

You're just a cookie cutter, mentally deformed, abortion of a person. Again, suicide is the greatest thing you could ever aspire to. You are an error in the human species. Erase it by ending your own life.

>>12798760
i
am
not
a
marxist
or
a
materialist
you
stupid
faggot

>>12798767
I dont really care, youre still incapable of backing up what you said with argument

>>12798760
Ummm... Honey... Sweetie... Sweetkins...
It's not my job to explain this to you
You should already know this honeybear

>>12792633
Man. Energy. Society. by Earl Cook

>>12798771
there isn't anything to argue
a theory of sign systems i.e. semiotics is not de facto idealist *or* materialist. you can make one compatible with either.

>>12798786
contratranny was arguing that white nationalist terrorism is the result of online memeing, rather than due to economic circumstances

>>12798763
>narcissist
>importance
>sense of power
wrong, you can't read people at all and seem to be heavily projecting.

>>12798798
no, that was not the claim referred to in that tweet.
>Many of us spent days & days in 2017 arguing the ['ok' and 'frog' sign] racists were real, that they were dangerous that their "irony" was a ploy. We were told again & again that were were crazy, that it was all a joke, we just didn't understand memes, we'd succumbed to paranoid delusions.
there is *nothing* in there claiming that memes caused the christchurch shooting, only that the violent racists communicated their hatred and vitriol and violent plans partly *through memes*
do you understand that?
this is like saying rattlesnakes shake their tails as a warning and defense mechanism
pointing this out is not the same thing as saying rattlesnakes bite people because they shake their tales
you fucking retard

If anyone says that /lit/ isn’t the single most reddit board on 4chan, show them this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/comments/b3h3po/nice_things_being_said_on_4chan_about_contra/
Reddit has a thread about this thread right now

>/lit/ is definitely not woke and I left when people kept posting mein kampf threads every day around when /pol/ started taking over the entire site,

>>12798839
No the implication is that it's not safe to allow the discourse to continue, that is very, very obvious to those of us who aren't being disingenuous snakes.

>>12798844
Christ
Which one of you faggots did this?
Show yourself traitor

>>12798849
the implication is that maybe more people should be paying attention to you creeps and your 'jokes'

>>12798852
80% of /lit/ at any given time is reddit tourists and discord trannies. To any of the faggots from the reddit thread reading this: you will never be a real woman.

>>12793233
He's insufferable, no way anyone other than mindkilled progs watch that shit

>>12798844
That thread is extremely cursed. They are really slobbering over his girl cock in there

>>12798867
'the ok and frog signs are dangerous'
Explicitly says that the signs themselves are dangerous, not just a barometer

>>12798844
Well to be fair Mein Kampf is not something you center your ideology around. Nazism is inherently retarded.

But conservatism is nice though :3

I definitely don’t like to pick sides either, however. I don’t like the idea of either political party these days but I certainly don’t agree with homosexuality :3

>>12798878
still exhibiting just abysmal reading comprehension
read with me here: 'the ok and frog sign *racists* are dangerous'
the 'okay and frog sign' are descriptive enhancers of the object 'racist'
the racists are what are dangerous

>>12798878
>>12799022

>>12799022
you are actually right, and i was wrong

>>12792932
>https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/01/im_building_a_rape_tunnel.html

who exactly is the last psychiatrist? what is this blog about? i've been flipping through the pages but im still unsure of what this is all about.

I'm really struggling with this. I got sucked into pol around 2014 and it's really changed me. I've become paranoid of jews trying to destroy me and bought lots of weapons and ammunition. any time I ask myself if maybe it's all in my head I just find a way to tell myself it's the enemy that wants me to think that.

no no no no no no no no no ahahHAHAHAHAHAH

>>12797498
>my incel friend
cringe
trannies lost the race debate so they restore to the same old mantra

>>12792633
this has got to be a troll

you're asking for an antidote to biology?

>>12797551
Why do you think Watson said those things, malice? No, he truly believes his words, he just can't prove it in today's political climate. The only charge you can't level against Watson is stupidity.

>>12798844
OP here.
Weird.