/lit/ - Literature

well, /lit/?

>>12753777
god I hate athletes, psychologically they feel as if it is warfare, and that winning a car race is the same as a grueling victory over the enemy, truly pathetic self absorbed individuals

>>12753835
I would not really call this philosophy. He is addressing the issue of focus versus concentration, which is covered very well by Brian Enos in Practical Shooting Beyond Fundamentals. If you consider your two racing quotes to be philosophy then you will likely find Enos to be a sage.

>>12753777
Sam Hyde

>>12753777
What a dumb question. Anyone who expresses abstract thoughts could be considered a "non-philosopher philosopher"

>>12753849
Most of the best competitors I have ever known only truly competed against themselves. A lot of them had no idea how to compete against someone else. Of course, none of them were competing in any of the niggerball variants which are filled with people with this fault.

>>12753849

This absolute faggot cope. Do not say: "I've actually experienced combat." In this event, you are even more of a loser cuck faggot.

>>12753777
Yogi Berra, Johan Cruyff.

>>12753878
Not him, but listen to some of the interviews with niggerballers. Many speak as if anon's contention were true.

>>12753878
>worship people who kick ball or you are a LOSER FAGGOT

sounds like you just can't handle the fact that your heroes are actually egotistic nobodies

um george carlin and bill hicks xD

>>12753886
>>12753892
you are missing the point (not him btw)
>god tier = warriors
>delusional tier = athletes
>shit tier = cunt who complains about athletes being delusional

Dr. Goebbels

>>12753902
>pointing out an obvious flaw in society makes you worse than said flaw you point out

really smart anon

>>12753902
Shit tier = people who observe, form opinions and express them?

>>12753908
He didn’t make a general case for it, just said it applies to this situation in particular

>>12753922
Don't be such a contrarian, its obvious what his line of thinking would mean.

>>12753902
>god tier = warriors
>delusional tier = athletes
>shit tier = cunt who complains about athletes being delusional
If I am shit tier then what is the tier below me that is complaining about my critique?

>>12753902
>god tier = warriors
>delusional tier = athletes
>shit tier = cunt who complains about athletes being delusional
>hellscape tier = people who complain about people complaining about athletes being delusional

>>12753947
>down the rabbit hole we go

>>12753849
Are racers even 'atheletes'? Nigga you sit in a car and press the gas pedal. It's about as physically demanding as me playing Starcraft

>>12753962
Even golf is considered a sport. Racing is way more of an athletic venture than golf.

>>12753962
athletes today basically just means a participant of a sport, we'll be calling professional gamers athletes soon

>>12753849
a modern f1 driver has the same fitness level as an olympic athlete and they lose 10kg per race

have you ever gone through that amount of physical exhaustion in your entire life?

>>12754007
yeah last night with ur mother

>>12754014
>god I hate shitposters, psychologically they feel as if it is warfare, and that winning an argument is the same as a grueling victory over the enemy, truly pathetic self absorbed individuals

>>12753856
>then you will likely find Enos to be a sage
Everybody already considers Senna to be a sage
Watch pic related and you'll see
It might not be >muh moral relativism dialectic materialism tier but it sure as hell isn't not philosophy

>>12754017
Shitposting has literally nothing to do with warfare, its a civilized mans game to be ironic and silly, the complete opposite of war. Sport is a caricature, a reenactment of warfare, something to sate the blood lust of man whilst attempting to retain his civility.

>>12754030
>a reenactment of warfare
I would consider it more of a parody.

>>12754030
t. never watched 80s racing

>>12754027
Then maybe you should read Enos as well.

>/lit/ discussing motorsports
I knew I was surrounded by dweebs but not to this extent. Did somebody seriously compare racing a late 80s f1 car to playing statecraft?? You dumb faggots

>>12754078
be gentle with them, they don't know what they're talking about

>>12754078
true intellectuals talk about literally everything

>>12753947
based

>>12753904
Goebbels was lying he hated Christcuckery

>>12754259
goebbels, who just believed what ever hitler did, thought jesus was an aryan freedom fighter against jewry, and that paul the jew corrupted his message

>>12753777
Based Senna. Both him and Bruce Lee were too exceptional individuals to be left alive past 33/34. Together with Jesus Christ and Alexander of Macedon.

>>12753900
Faggot money-making machine block-head postmodernist athlete.
Those are probably not even his own words, some dickhead posted that fake quote pic on Facebook just to get likes.

>>12753777
Based Senna. Both him and Bruce Lee were too exceptional individuals to be left alive past 33/34. Together with Jesus Christ and Alexander of Macedon. None of them left a heir child (Bruce Lee's son was also murdered).

>>12754330
nobody uses facebook anymore old man

>>12753861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1b9wpvzzY
Guy Debord- Comments on the society of the spectacle (1988)

>>12754078
This. Senna was pretty bad at Starcraft even for those times.

>>12753777

>>12754585
Truly one of America's greatest athletes.

>>12754585
Greatest chess player ever. He was more creative and hard working than the Ruskies.

Im prolly going to read this https://www.amazon.com/Bobby-Fischer-Comes-Home-Friendship-ebook/dp/B00IEOZ2N4

>>12753900

A girl saying "no no no, please no" to forced anal sex also makes him unstoppable

>>12753962
Shit b8

>>12753849
I mean Senna did die during a race

>>12754014
Slight giggle

>>12754036
It's better than larping.

>>12753849
Nerd

>>12753777
Rene Guenon

>>12753777
Unironically philip k dick and his exegesis.

>>12753777
>yesterday I woke up sucking on a lemon

>>12754585
based as fuck

>>12753777
Miguel de Unamuno. His most famous works are fiction. Also, Shakespeare and Dostoiévski

>>12755357
>he raped her
Yikes! Are you possibly from reddit?

>>12756542

There’s a change of e-mails by Ronaldo’s lawyers were they talk that he admitted that he forced himself on her, and also an interview by Ronaldo himself were he admits she said “no” multiple times. The lawyers were working with the clear fact that their client was guilty of a crime:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/cristiano-ronaldo-new-documents-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html

Also, it’s important to know that consent to sexual acts can be withdrawn at any time according to the law of most countries, and in the US. So if the girl went to his suite and his room but ended up saying no (even if they were kissing and making out before), it means that she isn’t consenting in having sex.

>>12756542
Some people (really most people) don't like rapists and would avoid associating with them.

>>12754152
>>12754147
>>12754144
Damn, those are all good quotes desu. Ok, third one is meh, but the first two are kino

>>12753849
aren't we all

>>12753849
You do know what board you’re on, right?

>>12756775
Alright, I just finished reading the entire article you sent me. I'll try to respond as concisely as possible but still not miss anything important.
>There’s a change of e-mails by Ronaldo’s lawyers were they talk that he admitted that he forced himself on her, and also an interview by Ronaldo himself were he admits she said “no” multiple times. The lawyers were working with the clear fact that their client was guilty of a crime
The entire article is based on one document and makes all it's point based on this one document. The document is a questionnaire that Ronaldo answered. There are two different versions of this questionnaire. One that basically says Ronaldo raped her and one that clears him. Der Spiegel claims they have the accurate unadulterated version. From the article I had no idea where they got this document from, but it says at the top it comes from a group called "Football Leaks". In 2016 and 2018 they put out massive leaks on corruption and other sinister documents. From what I found it was 7 million documents.

So my question is, do we know if Football Leaks actually reports truthfully? It's hard to say, how do you verify 7 million documents? This one document has been said by Ronaldos lawyers to be fake. Der Spiegels response? Prove it, basically prove your innocence which is ridiculous, nobody should have to prove a document is false if it is put up against you.

>Also, it’s important to know that consent to sexual acts can be withdrawn at any time according to the law of most countries, and in the US. So if the girl went to his suite and his room but ended up saying no (even if they were kissing and making out before), it means that she isn’t consenting in having sex.
Yes she is allowed to cut off sex in the middle of the act, I'm not denying it. I noticed one thing in the article though, the same document Der Spiegel uses to allege criminal activity against Ronaldo (the accurate one that is) says that she actually gave him a handjob and was for the most part very active. She might have said no to one particular act (anal) which Ronaldo should have stopped doing if she said so, but the problem is that she claimed that she never gave him the handjob. So if you're going to be using this document against Ronaldo, you're going to have to question her legitimacy as she has already lied once.

>>12756787
Honestly don't care and generally speaking most men don't care (privately) so long as he isn't a caricature of violence in public, whatever happens in closed doors is on the woman for poor judgement of picking the guy, so long as he didn't drag her there.

My neighbour is this horrible domestic violence type guy and yeah the woman (mid 30s) keeps fucking driving her car around to see him, she never actually leaves because she probably gets off to him being an absolute cunt, she has absolutely no reason to be there.

>>12756983
>She absolutely has no reason to be there
You've got a pea-brained perspective on domestic violence my friend. I think you're an asshole.

>>12757014
Alright, give it a go, give me 1 good reason why she endures this off her own accord.

>>12757014
>You've got a pea-brained perspective on domestic violence my friend. I think you're an asshole.
How is he an asshole for pointing out an obvious fact? You dont trust violent people, simple as. He is not an asshole for pointing out she is retarded for putting her dick in the shredder

>>12757024
Maybe she thinks he'll kill her if she leaves.

>>12757030
This is such an infantile response.
Kill someone? Do you have any idea how difficult that would be let alone to get away with it.
If someone wanted to kill you, you would leave and never come back.
Do you honestly think Stockholm syndrome can turn people into sleeper agents?
Next.
>>12757029
This guy gets it, play with fire and you get burnt, walk into the fire and you're a moron.

>>12755622
nerds are actually higher competitors then athletes. anon is just a faggot.

>>12757052
>People in domestic violence situations don't kill each other
this is infantile. People kill their spouses all the time and they usually don't get away with it. I know 2 women personally whose boyfriends tried to murder them before they finally left and got restraining orders.

>>12757066
>I know 2 women personally whose boyfriends tried to murder them before they finally left and got restraining orders.
.

>>12757081
Ever heard of Lorena Bobbitt

>>12757066
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, they don't get away with it. It's a null/void scenario. It's great that you know 2 women who almost got murdered, I've shaken hands with moon people.
If you're a woman and you get to the point where your "boyfriend" could want to murder you, you're a fucking idiot. Those women were fucking idiots for not leaving ASAP.
You are absolutely accountable for your own choices, even if that means not dealing with your problems.

>>12757093
>When somebody you love hits you its your fault
You're a real son of a bitch. This isn't "being realistic", its just washing your hands

>>12757101
>Falling in love with a psychotic is totally fine and not a clear declaration of your poor judgement of character.
I'm not saying it's her fault for getting it. I'm saying if you get to his bedroom for the 10th or so time and you still don't know him, Darwin is waiting for you to stick a fork in a light-switch.

>>12757101
Yeah except violence isn’t a spontaneous thing that randomly inflicts people like a fever. Unless they are psychopaths like Ted Bundy and hide it very well that is. It’s very easy to identify violent people unless you’re willingly blind. And trust me, most of these women have an attitude of ”but he wouldn’t do it to me!” so they definitely know

>>12757112
Getting abused regularly also fucks with how you think you deserve to be treated. And statistically speaking, in an abusive situation, right after you leave is when they're most likely to try and kill you.

>>12757115
most women even volutarily date violent men because of their capacity to defend them better against other men.
Plot-twist: These psycho men when threatened by other men would run away light-speed only for the woman to get stabbed to death.

>>12755357
Based Tsuu

>>12757129
The regularity is the key here.
What happens the first time she's abused, the very first time?
Is the denial of that fact not a conscription of her poor judgement? You're putting so much accountability on the man's sake to kill them eventually, but this domestic men don't want to 'conclude' their relationships, they want to torture these women forever, it's a lifestyle not an 'event'. Abusive men would rather just start abusing another woman than kill someone and risk prison. To play your card, I know a woman who was abused apart from the one I mentioned eariler, she's bereft of any life herself. She shunned her only son for a period, she lived for the victim status because being a victim made her life seem tragic and honourable, victims are always painted as angels. In reality her life was quite average. Being a victim by choice is hilariously narcissistic because you think people are after YOU, as if you're such a special girl/boy.

>>12754144
I like this one.

>>12754147
Explain

>>12757185
What happened to one of my friends was this. She moved in with a high school boyfriend right after graduation, had a bad relationship with both of her parents. Quickly became the sole housekeeper in a tiny apartment full of degenerates, including a guy who raped her frequently. Scared to move back home, because of her parents, and because she did this instead of going to college. Left her boyfriend. He came to her place of work and tried to strangle her to death in front of her co-workers. She moved back home. Her dad shames her for ever even dating that guy. It was fucked up, I knew him and he seemed harmless too.

>>12757217
Read Plato.

>>12754585
Why was he so based?

>>12757235
Whenever someone brings in a personal account, that is also touching I feel for them, especially the young.
However, after almost every action you could easily put in "and then she left". She didn't have to put herself through any of that, a youthful issue I know, but honestly the state is at a point where if you're a young woman, you can ask for a house fund, no problem, work, no problem. I'm guessing drugs were involved. I really hate to say it, I really do, but your friend has poor judgement and reasoning skills. Which is sad because I'm sure that came from bad parenting, but nonetheless is true. She probably knew the guy did drugs. All of it is just one giant mistake and yet you can't (although you are doing a good job as a friend) deny how much of the tapestry of this was dependant on her enabling of her own poor actions or his. Sad to hear about the father being a failure. I can only guess what happened was she felt out with her father and he didn't have the guts to tell her she wasn't old enough to make her own decisions yet.

>>12757299
Except she did leave eventually and look what fucking happened. Now she lives with her dad who still shames her for it, and she's an attempted murder victim.

>>12757299
Also drugs were not involved. They were just lazy slobs. You make a lot of assumptions about people who are in abusive situations.

>>12754144
>>12754147
>>12754152
Kanye is pretty based here

>>12757316
"...eventually", yes and that precise delay is what I meant by poor judgement.
A general in war realises every second spent waiting/scheming is a second that the enemy could strike. Her dad shames her because he failed himself and can't bare the thought of seeing his failure in her resultant lethargic actions. Yes and being a 'victim' nicely covers up any sort of accountability. No one is ever 100% a victim. Also I'm assuming she was involved with a guy who did drugs because of her poor reasoning ability.

>>12757323
>You make a lot of assumptions about people who are in abusive situations.
And so do you. Your arguments so far has been personal anecdotes

>>12757359
So have yours
>>12757357
>That's what I meant by poor judgment
I mean your opinions of her are the same as those of her father, so insulting him looks kind of weird on you.

François Laurelle

>>12757366
It's called empathy, just because I'm calling your friend in such atrociously callous terms, 'a moron' and consolidating this with your story, doesn't mean I don't feel touched by her supposedly abused youth.
Why not empathise with the father, no one in these stories were there (even you) to tell her to get out early when she was clearly mentally incapacitated by her own ignorance.

>>12753904
based

>>12753777
>what are some examples of non-philosopher philosophers?
"Philosopher" is a strong word, but my choice is Joshua Slocum.

>First man to sail alone around the world, as the title implies
>The book is full of his observations, thoughts, adventures, encounters, and the tales of his journeys
>Fairly insightful and genuinely down to Earth.

It's one of my favorite non-fiction tales, and I love Slocum's style and observations. Barnes and Nobels has a pretty great edition that includes a biography, a glossary of the many nautical terms he uses, and so on, and it's part of their classics so it's fairly cheap.

A favorite line of mine from the book:

"I had already found that it was not good to be alone, and so I made companionship with what there was around me, sometimes with the universe and sometimes with my own insignificant self; but my books were always my friends, let fail all else."

>>12753962
Yeah they are. You tried driving a racecar mate?

The steering alone is holy shit strenuous. Reaction time x high load x controlled exertion. Like trying to drive a weight machine.

>>12753849
Maybe pansy sports like baseball and football.

Hockey coaches run hockey lines quickly the same way Marius did

>>12755356
>russians
>strategy

>>12753849
Ressentiment

>>12753835
Everyone can experience this phenomenon and not just by driving but by doing almost anything you're good at

>>12753900
Imagine being the guy who brings Ronaldo to a philosophy discussion

>>12759070
>he thinks there is any sport even slightly comparable to warfare

>>12755363
Cuck boy office workers also die from getting hit by a truck. Can they also be comparable to soldiers?

>>12760560
t. messoy fanboy

>>12753900
Tsuuuuuuuuuuu

>>12753777

bubbles from the tv show 'The Wire'

>>12753849
t. nerd who got owned by alpha jocks

>>12754147
actually philosophical

>>12753777
I wonder if Ayrton could articulate what it feels like to have a driveshaft jam into your skull?

Proust basically discovered modern temporal experience. Walter Benjamin argues pretty convincingly that it BTFOs Henri Bergson

>>12753942
Read culture of critique to find out

>>12755356
>Russian Strategy

Throw games against your top dog and accept 12 move draws with the rest of your "comrades".

>>12754585
why was so based /lit/?

>>12761758
Ass blasting the soviet union and Roasties left and right.