/lit/ - Literature

>>12730478
It means that if you disagree Camus will laugh at you and fuck your gf after his football match

>>12730478
The constant struggle against the inevitable rolling-back-of-the-rock is a symbol of Man's determination in the face of infinite. We imagine Sisyphus happy, for we must also imagine ourselves happy - we are born to live, and if life is pushing a rock up a hill, then in that we must find happiness (or else find ourselves purposeless and doomed).

Did he forget Sisyphus was a dirty criminal that got what he deserved?

>>12730502
How was Sisyphus a criminal? He tricked Hermes, cheated Thanatos and made a fool of Persephone. He was smarter than most of the Gods, and an absolute Chad.

>>12730478
That if you’re forced to work a boring and unfulfilling job your whole life that you can still lead a happy life if you try hard enough

>>12730561
Not really 'try hard enough', more along the lines of 'find happiness in the mundanity'.

>>12730478
It means we must, because the alternative is nihilism.

Life is a comedy to those who think, a tragedy to those who feel.
The elation of comedy is saying horray for life in its own terms, however incongruous and absurd.

>>12730870
nice post desu

>>12730478
It means that Camus sees the fundamental nature of the human experience as being like Sisyphus. That the pursuit of any goal is ultimately futile, and nothing ever is truly complete.
To say that Sisyphus is pushing the rock up the hill is a mistake. You will forever approach success only to find your efforts washed away. Eternal suffering.
Sisyphus is simply pushing the rock. In that way he can find happiness. Not through pushing it to the top, but just through pushing it. To push the rock is his nature, he must make peace with that.

>>12730508
He raped the innocent daughter of a guy who stole some of his animals. (Also he snitched on Zeus.)

>>12730870
bery nice

>>12731591
In this instance its also about asking difficult questions without necessarily having them answered. To make a "leap of faith" for religion, or to just declare yourself an atheist is to artificially place yourself at the top of the hill. Camus's absurdism involves living in the ambiguity of never completely answering the question, living without true closure, and being satisfied with it.

>>12730508
Sysiphus also used to kill traveling strangers and guests in his home in violation of xenia

its unironically the philosophical equivalent of “just bee yourself bro”

>>12730478
It means that if you don't imagine hard enough Camus will come back from the dead to kick your ass.

>>12731734
No it isn't retard.

>>12730495
Amen. God bless you.

>>12730561
BUT WAT ABOUT MY FUCKING DEPRESSION!!!!!! YOU MUST VALIDATE MY DEPRESSION

>>12731701
>>12731726
Was unaware, wtf! Sisyphus is CANCELLED!

It means better to roll a rock uphill than have an eagle come down and eat your liver for all eternity.

>>12730478
arbeit macht frei

>>12730478
Just be yourself

>>12730478
his task is what sustains his existence

>>12733706
he knows what it is he has to do to keep existing

It means that if your gf goes to gangbang parties with french post-structuralists every friday you must simply accept it and try to be happy

Read the rest of the book and find out.

>>12730478
It means you should outgrow Camus by the age of 16

>>12730495
/thread

>>12733773
Imagine living your life like this

>>12730478
>>12730495

This is retarded. This comment is the boulder. You MUST be happy that you read it.

>>12734916
What are you trying to say here?

>>12730495
Well yes, but also the absurdity of the rock-toting is that it's meaningless, and meaninglessness leads to unhappiness, found in the arbitrary purposelessness of life.

>>12730870
This

>>12730478
>What does 'We must imagine Sisyphus happy' actually mean?
he push the rock

>have to push rock as a punishment
>just force myself to enjoy it
>gods are seething

>>12737137
>Find out how this Greek landowner BTFO the entire Hellenic pantheon with ONE simple trick!

I would unironically enjoy pushing a rock up a hill constantly, imagine how ripped you’d get

It means

"I am done rambling on about why I live in spite of the lack of rational arguments for why one should live when suicide is a possibility, a scenario considered witbout regard to the obvious fact that most people simply want to live, which proves the existence of a soul incidentally, and it is time to put a little bow on my manifesto and send it off to the publishers with a wink because honestly... I got nothing."

>>12730870
Saying horray for life is reductive, we despair at life in its own terms, because we despair at our own terms.

>>12730478
That if you're happy or willfully ignorant enough to not care about the fact that your life is nothing more than a series of failed attempts to achieve self-nullification through the appeasement of the deterministic electromagnetic interactions that comprise your mind you're bound to be alright with being alive.

Sisyphus was a masochist

>>12736583
Then you, unlike Sisyphus, can kill yourself because everything is meaningless and you won't ever be happy. That, or find meaning in the meaningless and inject a purpose in your life.

>>12730478
Product is the process, the ultimate optimism of spirit against inert nature, if life is nothing but a series of catastrophic (repetitive) mistakes then we must embrace this idea, even laugh at it like Cixous' Medusa.

>>12730478
if we accept that he is unhappy then he will descend into nihilism

>>12739471
A gay masochist xD

>>12730478
>What does 'We must imagine Sisyphus happy' actually mean?

When given an endless, just think about all the friends you're going to make along the way!

>>12730478
He was taking a view of reality which is sometimes called "radical localism" - ie, "things" in being and "things" imagined (including metaphysical "things" such as emotional states) are contiguous. And thus the envisioning of a "merry Sisyphus" becomes coterminous with the reality of the situation. He has been conjured into being.

>>12731591
>>12731717
How does Camus rationalize being bored? Suppose I accept that Sisyphus is happy, is he not bored? Can one not be bored and happy at the same time? Suppose I'm happy but also dissatisfied with the uneventfulness of pushing my rock up the hill. Do I just kill myself? Are we only here to suffer?