/lit/ - Literature

In pic related, the second part of the sperging.

And here are the archives of all his "lessons":

>Lesson 1:
Muslimspeak and Taqiyya.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193089072))

>Lesson 2:
Jihad.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193585054))

>Lesson 3:
Muhammad.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/194939425))

>Lesson 4:
Quran and Sunnah.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/196163288))

>Lesson 5:
Science.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/197349477))

>Lesson 6:
Dhimmis.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/198520600))

>Lesson 7:
Pedophilia.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/199793487))

>Lesson 8:
Slavery.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/200684486))

>Lesson 9:
Women.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/201800708))

>Lesson 10:
Honor killings.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/203085261))

>Lesson 11:
Gays in islam.
Plus an APPENDIX (Human Rights and how islam violates all of them) and a GLOSSARY of the most common islamic terms.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/205236463))

>>12720547
Autism done right.

>>12720547
stop talking about yourself in the 3rd person and also go see a doctor

i have no objection to the idea in general, though im not much of a fan of polemics (too tedious), but having looked through the pdf, that shit is so lazily and sloppily written, fuckin jihad yourself my dude

>>12720547
>>12720558
DELETE THIS THREAD YOU INFIDEL PIG

Islam is pathetic and needs criticism. People need to realise Muslims are bad for a functioning society.

Based but the effort should be focused against degeneracy in the west. It's like arguing against oooga booga stone-age men. Even the Arabic language is so primitive, those raised with it as a first language are developmentally deficient. Fix the west, then ethnically cleanse the lands of the middle east. This post is indisputable.

>>12720547
>>12720558
>>12720742
Metasamefagging is still samefagging.

>>12720547
kinda amazing desu

>>12720748
>lazily and sloppily written
The fuck you on about? There were times when I pissed myself with laughter.

>>12721098
Can't fix the West without showing liberals their mistakes, and what better way to do that than to show them that they're completely wrong about their equations "islam = good" and "West = evil and bigoted", and that islam is the real fascist ideology?

>>12720547
>>12720558
I'm actually very impressed.

Holy shit, this (white?) guy seriously studied Islam, the Koran, Muslims, Arabs, Torah, Jews, etc for years and wrote a 300 page book on this?

Why? Why didn't he just post merchant jpgs like the rest of us

>>12722375
Don't complain. We need at least one guy to do the work. His autism served us well.

>>12722390
I don't think we needed it honestly. I don't need a doctoral thesis to know I don't like Jews/Muslims and their culture and religion. Beats spending all that time learning about anime or vidya lore though

>>12722411
It's not bad to be properly acquainted with knowledge and therefore rebuttals should you need them.

Interesting reading. Based and jihadpilled.

>>12722419
Yeah, this would come in handy if you wanted to be an author or debater like Christopher Hitchens or HC Strache

If the writer sees this, rearrange and edit this "book" copy so that it's fit for printing and actually print it.

I would buy it TBQH

Would make a nice read, too.

>>12720547
holy fucking based. now someone do this for christfags.

>>12722568
It would be breddy easy to put it on Amazon, don't know why he hasn't done it yet

>>12720547
imagine if he had put all this effort into debunking christianity most of this boars might actually care

everyone already hates the muslims and would whether people were aware of the contradictions or not

>>12720547
Why didn't he just make a proposal document and submit this to some conservative publisher? Dude could have actually got published and paid pretty easy, they promote dogshit like Ann Coulter all the time.

>>12722598
It's already been done hundreds of times. Because Christians don't blow themselves up if you criticise their religion

amazing that he can write 330 pages worth of content expanding on the autistic brain dead boomer myths he shat out in the original thread. genuinely impressed

>>12722858
>durka durka

>>12722858
>brain dead boomer myths
Care to elaborate?

>>12720547
I will read it next week when I have time, I hope the 13 century long massacre and barbarism perpetrated against the Hindu people its covered at some point.

>>12722870
literally the entire thread could just be made into a low res 2010 facebook boomer picture about how Islam is a fascist religion that wants to mass murder the rest of mankind. when he isnt regurgitating the same tired polemics about taqiyya and muhammad writing the book himself he's having an autistic atheist meltdown and cursing God to strike him down

>>12722915
so basically 'old man bad'

>>12722915
So you have no legitimate counter-argument?
His criticisms are sourced quite well, be it a "cliche" argument or not, he's not wrong.

I'm also not seeing the connection with his arguments and the Baby Boomer generation, nor do I see the connection between his arguments and atheism.

You just have a shit religion, get over it.

>>12722926
When will you braindead not an argument faggots realise not everything has to be structured like a high school debate

>>12720558
>Be SEA mud whose parents just got into trouble with locals during their pilgrimage to Mecca last year.
>Basically paris syndrome for muds who never have any actual contact with ME people.
>tfw they got disillusioned.
>tfw I dropped them the redpill that SEA-muds are still crypto hindu-buddhist at heart.

>>12722475
hc strache is my fav rapper, too

>>12721156
maybe break free from the divide and conquer mind control scheme? go read rudolf steiner kid

>>12720547
VERY based

>>12723813
dis tbqh my nigga

>>12722895
>13 century long massacre and barbarism perpetrated against the Hindu people

>>12723879
forgot to add the '?'

>>12722895
Seething pajeets

>>12722858
fuck off ahmed, allah can suck my dick

>>12723654
why does islam never has a grip on mongolian blooded people

>>12721156
Liberals cannot learn from their mistakes. You've never argued I see. Their ideology needs to be outlawed, not debated.

>>12722645
and what, get Hebdo'ed? That shit is toxic for publishers.

>>12722915
>tired polemics
And yet, eternally correct.

Why would you do that? Islam is based.

>>12724581
islam destroys the civilisations it touches through inbreeding, sexual starvation thanks to harems accruing to the top tier of men, and has nothing in its doctrine that promotes long term stability. The Islamic Golden Age was a lie, areas of Spain ruled by the Moors are poorer than the Christian areas, and they have caused an untold loss of life for literally no benefit. Just because it is anti degeneracy, does not mean it is pro-west. It's like using Strychnine to cure my cold, it''ll work after a fashion.

>>12724609
>The Islamic Golden Age was a lie
Not at all. Alhazen was very intelligent

>>12724632
wow, he lived and worked for 500 years?! Based!

It ws a garbage "renaissance" only praised for it being muh religion of peace. Fewer books were translated into Arabic during this 500 year time period than are translated in Spain today in one year. Not into Spanish, a widely spoken language, just translate by Spanish publishers alone.

They didn't invent mathematics or save science from the evil Christians, in fact they robbed us on many Hellenic texts. They burned down severl Egyptian libraries after one of their Caliphs said "If these books contradict the Koran, they are not wanted, if they agree, they are not needed". They didn't value learning remotely, only conquest and lord knows how many manuscripts by Plato or Aristotle died out thanks to this.

Meanwhile the ebil Christians were pursuing science through the Jesuit Order and has embraced Aristotle warmly.

>>12724696
Rather, they created Algebra, a correct interpretation of Optics, and transformed mathematics into the Sufficiency and Necessity formulation (they co-opted the synthetic-analytic method as developed by Pappus)

And you don’t know why everyone will read this and agree with me. You don’t know why everyone will read what I’ve typed and understand and agree with what I’ve said. You think everyone is like you: that they have a mindless agenda. You think this is a war.

I’ve read and studied. I’ve done my research and understood many different aspects of mathematics. Before you start talking about how the Islamic Golden Age has really helped or hurt mathematics, how about you do something no one like you ever does: read. How about you read?

Until then, I’ve won this “”””debate””””” if you can even call it that.

>>12720547
Did he actually bother with referencing and does he have an extensive bibliography? Useless otherwise

>>12724609
Anon, I literally can't see the difference between atheism and islam. If they fight it out I will remain on the sidelines and enjoy.

>>12724773
Then you are lost. Allahs way is the only way. The ones who follow his path are always victorious, even if beset on all sides by cavillers

>>12724735
Algebraic abbreviations comes from the Hindus btw, look it up. The Muslims made some important advances but the groundwork of it was done by Hindus

>>12724792
>Algebraic abbreviations comes from the Hindus
Absolutely not. I have read this, don’t you think I’ve already considered this?

Let me educate you.

Leonardo Pisano introduced the Arabic (keyword here:ARABIC) numeral system into Europe primarily drawing from his experience and influence from Al-Khwarizmi. Using Euclid II. 3-6, Al-Khwarizmi and Abu Kamil were considered the father’s of Algebra. Al-Khwarizmi heavily drew from Hindu maathematics, but it’s also thought he was influenced by Greek mathematics as well.

Anyway, that’s the information as you should know it

>>12720547
Good. Islam is the cancer of the world. Without Muslim the world would be more developed and advanced, especially the middle east.

For example, once the land which is now known as Iran and Iraq was one of the most advanced civilizations. Now, it's just a mess, totally backwards, causing trouble globally.

I mean, the US are causing a lot of shit, too, but at least they also invent and create a lot of good stuff. Muslims never did invent, created, discovered,... anything significant. They just suck.

>>12724773
this. Christianity is the way.

>>12724735
>You think this is a war.
The Muslims certainly seem to think so.

>declares himself winner of debate because of appeal to authority
Kek, what a pseud. Your understanding of mathmatics hardly qualifies you to understand history. You could be Good Will Hunting for all I care, but the idea that Islam as a faith promoted and produced scholarly work as a policy is rediculous. They haven't produced much of anything of any worth in centuries. What little they had like Algebra in such a small time frame can be pinned down to a number of factors. Their imperial domination over so many regions, previously Christian and Roman (Byzantium for example) and their tolerance of the existence of Dhimmis likely left Greek and Roman scholarship intact. There have also been theories that Jewish scholars writing in Arabic were the bulk of the scholars thanks to their tradition of learning and kvetching to one another over scripture. And yes this anon: >>12724792
is write. Hindu scholarship was an important part of this "Golden Age"

Can I declare I have won this debate now?

>>12724834
>can’t spell ridiculous

>>12724816
>Let me educate you.
post disregarded. Sounds like an imperialist muslim too, telling people how they are gonna submit to the whip one way or the other.

>>12724838
You are butthurt and you lose. Meanwhile I will enjoy my two girlfriends while you never get any

>>12724837
oopsie, one too many glasses of wine I think. Another thing your spastic bronze age religion prohibits you from enjoying. Ya know, like astable monogomous relationship, smoked bacon, civilisation and hte guilt-free feeling of not having ever fucked a 9 year old.

>>12724847
:p

>>12724840
>you lose
I know the inbreeding causes awful mental retardation, but this is really stunted and infantile anon.

>girlfriend, you can keep 'em anon, I'm not into little girls with mutilated labia.

>>12724849
yes

>>12724851
>>12724853
:p

>>12724855
;)

>>12724834
i love u

>>12724895
thanks anon, the fucking taqiyya from >>12724816
and their "I win because I declare this land in the name of Allah" is laughable.

I don't have an informed opinion on Islam (so I might as well have none at all) but I can't help but admire the work of such a dedicated autist. Godspeed, your sperglord.

I think most people hate Islam for the wrong reasons. There are situations where slavery is morally acceptable. It's the same with Jihad or holy war and honor killings. Women are fucking retarded and need to be regulated. Giving women the franchise is the downfall of the west and they're why kids are being brainwashed into thinking gays are cool.

>>12724816
Calling something Arabic doesn't mean it came from Arabia. I actually see this sort of logic with Muslims a lot. They think the name itself is proof of something.

>>12724919
>Liberalism equals Retardation
>Islam is not Liberalism
>Islam is therefore anti-Retardation
How about this anon, get something based that isn't a filthy saracen religion of conquest. Start with, oh, I dunno, Christianity.

>>12724735
>they created Algebra
>they
Muslims did nothing but worship their false religion, becoming even more violent, inbred, and stupid with the passing of time. Quite a few victims of this garbage faith did preserve, pass on, and build upon the remains of antiquity but they did this in spite of Islam.

>>12724933
If a religion isn't aggressive it will inevitably devolve into the passive bullshit that modern Christianity is today. Europe has turned the other cheek and is spreading them wide for its conquerors.

>>12724936
this. And much of the preservation was in Byzantium too.

>>12724944
Christianity has its miltant wings. The Jesuits were literally called the Soldiers of Christ for their aggresive expansion of the faith. There have been countless mobilized military actions like the Crusades, and the Eastern Churches remain based. Christianity isn't decaying, it is being eroded by the waves of post-French revolution liberalism. Islam would eventually do the samegiven material comforts, long term peace and stability, and the rise of decadence like it is doing already in the Gulf states where materialism is overtaking piety as the gold standard of status.

>>12724954
What tiny minority believes is irrelevant. Christianity as a whole is weak and cannot protect its people. Why it became that why doesn't matter to me. It is what it is.

>>12724954
Christianity of 50 years ago wouldn't have tolerated a percentage of what it does now. Lesbian bishops would have been unheard of so this has nothing to do with material conditions. Muslims can't ever become what Christianity is today because they don't change. When critics accuse them of living like a medieval society they're not wrong.

>>12724995
Christianity is a pathetic slave mentality that seeks revenge on its masters by being morally vortuous

>>12720547
Based though he should have written it about Judaism

>>12725012
This.

>>12723523
You’re still so buttblasted it’s hilarious. Dude obviously has more command over your religion than you do. It’s okaytho go starve yourself for a couple of weeks and beat women you raging sandnigger faggot.
i secretly hope youre girardfag and were actually contemplating converting to consummate your blow hard affinity for RG

>>12724759
you literally havent read a single post have you faggot

>>12726118
why should I...?

>>12726103
not me

>>12720547
Ex-muslim here. None of you really know how deep the rabbit hole goes. I’ve never met an anon that has even the slightest clue about islamic theology and it’s laughable that this anon could only come as far as quoting Sahih bullshit after “years” of research. Pitiful. If you want a clue, look into what really happened when Muhammad’s successor was being chosen and into the whole Ali-Muawiya ordeal and the ripples it caused for generations. Read up on Shia theology. I have my own theories about the ultimate endgoal of Islam and none of you retards have even come close to defining it. If I get enough (you)s, I’ll elaborate on it when I wake up tomorrow, just know that the real religion of Islam arguably died with Muhammad and today’s Islam is just a retarded offshoot. Things could’ve turned out very differently with this religion.

>>12726702
What's the endgame, famalam? just make the quick version.

>>12724504
>SEA
>Mongol blooded.
I rather be a real monkey living on trees than to be a descendant of those mongs.

>>12726702
Aren't you supposed to be murdered by your own family member by now?

>>12726702
>Ex-muslim here. None of you really know how deep the rabbit hole goes.
i would like to know more

>>12720547
I was in that thread :D

>>12726702
maybe (You)whore but fuck it, (You)

>>12720547
man I hate Christianity and I have a lot of autistic rage in me and could go point by point like that too

>>12726881
Do it. You won't because you're a coward.

>>12722858
You worship an inbred child rapist.

>>12726702
None of you here ever deeply penetrated into the heart of the flat-earth society and it's message, it's laughable that anons thinks that Samuel Shenton is the one to disprove after years of research into flat earth. Look up Joseph W. Holden and the ripples in caused in flat earth theory around the flat earth. If I get more (you)s, I'll elaborate on it when I wake up tomorrow when the sun comes on my side of the flat earth again.

>>12720547
Based. I’ll start reading it tonight.

>>12720547
Talk about kicking in an open door.

Can someone do this with Confucianism please? Fuck chinks.

>>12722605
amazon pulled tommy robinson's remix of the koran because of muh hate
there are other books already on there that are critical of islam. don't know how much longer they'll stay

>>12720547
This is actually brilliant as autistic as it is. Very forward thinking. Good shit anon, I'm proud of you.

>>12724928
You’re in Muslim territory kiddo. Now leave before I strip your flesh in the name of Allah

>>12720547
Where can I buy this?

>>12726702
Bump. I’m up. Just let me have breakfast.

>>12726702
I said in this post that Islam died with Muhammad but that's not the correct way of putting it. To be more accurate, Islam was snuffed out while still in the womb. Let me explain, Muhammad appointed his nephew, Ali Bin Abi Talib, as his successor. But when Muhammad died, his companions rejected his decree and instead elected someone else named Abu Bakr, who was the first of the four rightly guided caliphs, the last of which was Ali, but that's besides the point.

Muhammad's decree was denied, and with it, the plan for the continual establishment of the foundations of Islam was denied. Even when Ali took power, it was too late by that time to change anything because Islam had already grown too materialistic. Islam, or rather, the plan to make Islam into what it was supposed to be, was already dead. Ali then, had no choice but to keel to the general sentiment of the time because if he tried to change the status quo (he did, I mean he tried, but failed, but not immediately when he took power), people wouldn't have accepted the radical departure from the materialistic facets of the corrupted Islam.

One thing OP got right was that Muhammad and his faction were too weak to make any real changes for the majority of his life and it wasn't until he was close to death that he began reigning in real power. It's possible Muhammad lured in followers with worldly comforts and promises to gain power in preparation for what was to come. I hypothesize that Muhammad planned to give his power and control to Ali to establish what real Islam would have been, and as I clarified previously, this plan failed.

Nevertheless, Ali had acquired certain supporters who agreed with him that he was the true successor of Islam. It seemed though, at the time that after Ali's rule was finished, materialistic leaders would return to the forefront of Islam and the cycle of corruption would perpetuate. Seeing this inevitability and wanting to give Islam a chance, Ali went to negotiate with Muawiya, who was to be crowned the next leader of the community. Supporters of Ali saw this as a betrayal, that he was relinquishing his crown, and assassinated him. His sons, Hasan and Husayn, ended up vying for the leadership afterwards to veer Islam back into what it's original shape would've been, but Hasan was poisoned by his wife and Husayn was killed by Yazid, Muawyia's son, at the battle of Karbala. And so, the lineage of Ali continued, but each faded into obscurity and true Islam was lost forever. Everything I've just described is present in Shia theology, except for the fact that Islam was lost forever.

(1/2)

>>12729159
So then what was the original goal of Islam? Take a look at pic related. Sound familiar? I hypothesize that Islam, with Islam defined by Muhammad, Ali and their lineage, aimed for the establishment of a Christ-like figure, with Christ-like morality, to be added to the central tenants of Islam. A sort of distorted, full-man, image of Christ. This was, in a way, fulfilled with Husayn's death at the Battle of Karbala, Shias still venerate Husayn to this day, but they miss the point. I believe that Husayn, blood of Muhammad, willingly allowed himself to be slain in Karbala by the new, corrupted Islam, as a last ditch effort to absolve the muslims of their sins and treachery, just as Christ absolved the world of it's sins on the cross. Sadly, this was in vein, and the sentiment behind it clouded. Islam did not change still, and remained corrupted and even the shias, I believe, fail to realize this and fail to follow the teachings of Ali and Husayn properly.

To wrap it up, Islam, that I define as the philosophies of Muhammad and his blood, aimed to absolve and forgive all who preached and practiced it's doctrines, it was meant to be a sort of Christianity that belonged only to the Arabs. Whether that was it's original goal all along, or whether something changed along the path when Muhammad's lineage began to realize that they had lost all their power, I don't know. But this is what I believe Islam should've been, instead of what it is today, which is Muawiya's materialistic, corrupted, disgusting, satanic Islam. You could write a whole book about it but this is the gist of it.

(2/2)

>wasting time reading 4chan's autistic walls of text from random screenshots
No thanks

>>12720547
Somewhat related, anyone have a translation of this?

>>12729247
My Arabic isn't that good but ok:

Another failed attempt from this non-existent author to categorize/explain human life, and the reasons are as follows:

1) The book lacks scientific knowledge/facts
In this book the Earth is not round, the Sun orbits the Earth and the mountains are pillars that hold the Earth and the sky, which is "a roof preserved and held up with no pillar" and frozen blood is a level among the levels of Heaven(??), and semen comes from the ribs and the backbone, etc.

2) Big claims without any evidence that makes logical sense.

3) Obvious plagiarism from pre-Islamic poets.

4) Preaches a disgusting manner of interaction with other people.

5) The book has many faces (as in contradictory).

6) Allah and Muhammad play a strange game in the book and it's obvious in the verses that relate to the companions and and the imamhood of the Family of the House(Muhammad's lineage).

7) The author and publisher made out of a "Heavenly Book", a diary for adolescence(??).

8) The author suffers in weakness when it comes to arithmetic.

9) Obvious flaws and exaggerations.

>>12729190
A nice quote to be sure but I don't agree that Muhammads lifestyle is reconcilable with this view. If all knowledge is lost or corrupted of his time then what basis do you have to make any claims at all?

>>12729247
Based Stirnerian Mohammed

>>12723523

>>12730273
My view is based on facts and Shia theology. The assassination of Ali and the reason for it, Ali's legacy, and the slaying of Husayn in the Battle of Karbala are facts verifiable by any historian. I use the writings of the time to hypothesize about the grand goal of Islam in a way no one has bothered to. Obviously, if the writings are corrupted then my theory is corrupted. But really, how certain can we be of any history of any people? We do what we can with the writings we have and that's that.

>>12730453
What is this stupid fucking dog I keep seeing?

>>12730501
Anon, you've never seen Scooby-Doo?

>>12729159
>>12729190
Is it possible for the original goal of Islam to be restored?

>>12721098
As much as people don't like Islam in Western countries nowadays, if it wasn't them, it would be some other group being invited in en masse. The fact is that the Islamic world and Africa are the only places still producing humans nowadays and more bodies are needed in The Economy.

Do you neckbeards unironically believe that the islamic golden age never happened? Read up on avicenna and Al Razi

>>12720941
FUCK INFIDEL INSHAALLAH GLORY TO ISLAM

>>12720547
thanks for letting me know that /pol/ is still retarded anon