/lit/ - Literature

>>12713447
>Growing up in Hibbing, Minnesota, Dylan and his family were part of the area's small but close-knit Jewish community, and in May 1954 Dylan had his Bar Mitzvah.

*clears throat*

>>12713737
Can this guy get banned already?

>>12713737
k

He’s a great artist. Haters just making the Nobel more fun desu.

>>12713447
No, he isn't. You don't even know which poets /lit/ likes. Delusional.

>>12713786
They like the anglo-saxon canon. Mostly 19th. No translations. Not ever.

>>12713786
most of /lit/ doesn't read. this board unironically idolizes shit poets like poe and kipling

/lit/ has always had shit taste collectively.

>>12713447
One of the great poems by William Blake has more interpretations and symbolism than Bob Dylan's entire catalogue.

>>12713447
These are /lit/'s favorite poems. Can Dylan even compete? lmao

>>12713800
Yikes. Much, much symbolism.

>>12713822
I don't care for dylan but that list is cringe af my dude.

>>12713827
Better than Dylan, though. Except for Ginsberg.

>>12713822
>anglos are cringy
More news at 12. Dylan still God.

>>12713831
better or worse, still embarrassing for you my dude lmao

How does one pull off the hawaii shirt? /fa/ gives shit advice on this particular matter

>>12713791
Translated poetry depends on the abilities of the translator so largely, that it is ridiculous to discuss it without having insight into the original work.

>>12713832
I like the guy's songs a lot but he's no Baudelaire, no Lautréamont, and certianly no Dante. To consider anyone a God is an absurd delusion.

>>12713822

>>12713841
Have a nice hair cut and nice body and apparently rock a cigarette.

>>12713855
Show your list or gtfo

>>12713822
Wow, I've read 14 of these and don't know a fucking thing about poetry. What a bunch of pseuds you people are

>>12713822
>poe
>whitman
>keats
>owen
>byron
>FROST????
>ginsburg twice
>crane
so... this is the power of /lit/

>>12713899
>flaming papa Whitman
>not flaming Eliot
plebs out of my board thanks

>>12713907
eliot is there

>>12713899
very few people voted, it's like the same person casting two votes

>>12713844
>namedropping Lautréamont and Baudelaire
Risible. You’re just making it worse.

ps : i read french

>>12713907
don't you have cheeseburgers to eat?

>>12713909
>>12713923
out!!!!!

>>12713922
>Risible
As opposed to thinking Dylan is the best? LMAO

>>12713929
Bob Dylan is quite literally a more accomplished artist than Lautréamont. Yes.

>>12713926
make me pussy.
>muh whitman
he should have spent more time sucking dick (which he did as a prolific homo) and less time writing """"""""freeverse""""""""" poetry. He was his generations rupi kapur

>>12713939
>He was his generations rupi kapur
You see, that's the thing : his generation's Rupi Kaur is long forgotten now.

>>12713447
>>12713937
>Bob Dylan

>>12713952
>shit taste
Don't you have some Bolaño to read ? Real refined stuff ?

>>12713949
anti-whitman fag BTFO

>>12713949
not really because we're talking about him you retard.

>>12713957
Don't you have to defend Bob Dylan's Nobel at YouTube comments and suck his dick at 9pm, frog? Your REAL poet?

>>12713960
sorry fag you were BTFO by that guy lmao

>>12713447
Yeah for like a year

>>12713939
>He was his generations rupi kapur
this tbqh with you family.

>>12713968
You anglos are wild, man. I'm actually a published poet btw - not that you care, all this Keats to read and all. And that 20th century just around the corner ! I just post in Dylan threads to piss off pseuds like you ;)

Love.

>>12713973
>totally not me btw lmao
sure thing whitman fag. I will admit that it is somewhat poetic that you are sucking the dick of a man who throughout his life was famous for sucking other peoples dick.

pic very related. It's you and whitman sucking a dick.

>>12713939
He was the father of modern poetry. Are you retarded?

Yeah for the most part, the American tradition owes the man a lot. Im especially caught up with his work on the pic u posted and Blonde on Blonde because of the clear ways his decision to go electric affected how he wrote.

fascinating writer, but not like the best america has to offer

>>12713447
As a poet he's pretty underwhelming, but he's a good songwriter.

I love me a good ol' Dylan trolling thread.

>>12713982
>I'm a published frog poet so I'm right xdddd
I'm not even Anglo, you retarded Dylan-blowing frog.

>>12714021
Right about what ? Lautréamont being juvenile trash ? You goddamn right I am, my very dear friend burger.

>>12713988
>he was le father of le modern american freeverse poetry
>how could you not appreciate le epic poetry of the man who would go on to inspire bukowski and rupi kapur?
>next you're gonna tell me you don't even like ginsberg!
americans, please stop sharing your """"""opinions""""""

you're embarrassing yourself.

>>12713822
>tfw you’re outplayed by a meme
https://www.scaruffi.com/fiction/bestpo.html

>>12713822
this reads like a who's who of a middle school English syllabus.

>>12714025
>Lautréamont
Can't really compare the two since Laut died at the tender age of 24, while Dylan will live until his late 90s or whatever age his bargain with the devil says lmao either way Les chants du Maldoror is superior poetry than muh fee fees Dylan poetry
>my very dear friend burger
>When your English is convincing enough they think you're American
lol @ your life, frog

>>12714027
>Lautréamont
Can't really compare the two since Laut died at the tender age of 24, while Dylan will live until his late 90s or whatever age his bargain with the devil says lmao either way Les chants de Maldoror is superior poetry than muh fee fees Dylan poetry
>"my very dear friend burger"
>When your English is convincing enough they think you're American
lol @ your life, frog

>>12714056
what does this have to do with whitman sucking dick, both literally and as a poet? you do realize his reputation outside of america is that of a joke right?

>>12713447
>A hard rains gonna fall
>The times, they are changing
>Subterranean homesick blues
>Tambourine man
These are the only B.dylan songs you should be listening to.

>>12714070
meant >>12714056 for>>12714025

>>12713737
Robert Zimmerman is a jew? WHAT THE FUCK

>>12714070
>you do realize his reputation outside of america is that of a joke right?
only to 3rd world incels

>>12714072
>not Don't Think Twice It's Alright
it's my fav

>>12714080
cope harder incel, I've lived in Buenos Aires, Paris, Vienna, Prague, Barcelona, and Stolckholm. I've attended orgies with presidents and prime ministers and I've been a vocal member in the literary community at the highest level since 2016.

Whitman is a joke everywhere except for the southern/midwestern states in america.

>>12714094
Bloom, Borges, Neruda and Paz think highly of him. Cry more, Dylanfag.

>>12714094
genuinely funny

>>12714025
>Lautréamont
Can't really compare the two since Laut died at the tender age of 24, while Dylan will live until his late 90s or whatever age his bargain with the devil says lmao either way Les chants de Maldoror is superior poetry than muh fee fees Dylan poetry
>"my very dear friend burger"
>When your English is convincing enough they think you're American
lol @ your life, frog

>>12714099
Three of them were being polite about a poet they didn't read in their native language. Bloom is a pleb. try again whitman dicksucker.

why do non-americans have such a hard time understanding Whitman? The only people I have seen criticize him are non-americans. He's crucial to the country's literary canon.

>>12714124
the same reason non-retarded people have a hard time appreciating the great taste of glue.

>>12714137
I pity those who do not understand Whitman. You really don't know what you are missing.

>>12714124
I'm a nonburger who hates burgers and I like Whitman a lot. As I Ebb'd with the Ocean of Life makes me cry like a little babby.

>>12714155
He is the "eating glue" of poetry and you can quote me on that.

how's that glue taste, cletus?

>>12714103
Borges and Paz did read him in the original. Are you retarded?
> Bloom is a pleb.
And who are you then if he's a pleb? An expert? lmao have some human dignity

>>12714124
I'm Mexican and I really like Whitman's work. I don't get the backlash he's receiving in this thread.

>>12714172
I think it might be an autist without any sense for spirituality. In another thread a few months ago someone argued that he was 'narcissistic' in poems like Song of Myself, which is missing the point of it entirely not to mention misunderstanding the entire transcendental movement.

>>12714172
>I'm Mexican
stopped reading there.
>>12714164
they were being polite. They trashed him behind closed doors.

>>12714198
>stopped reading there.
Why? You hate Mexians and you hate Americans yet you're here in an American website in a thread about an American songwriter? What the fuck are you doing, anon?
>they were being polite. They trashed him behind closed doors.
They were more than polite. You can't know if they trashed him. Stop being sensationalist.
Hate usually stems from ignorance. Maybe try reading Whitman instead of having silly and unfounded judgments

>>12714072
>not even mentioning "It's alright ma"

>>12713892
if you know a lot about poetry you don't have to be CaptainObscuro. lit doesn't work like that.

>>12713926
kys

>>12713746
worried, levi?

>>12714219
Sorry but this might be hard to tell to someone with such a low IQ but...actually you know what I won’t waste my time someone with my IQ shouldn’t even be talking to someone like you.

>>12714508
>Sorry but this might be hard to tell to someone with such a low IQ but...actually you know what I won’t waste my time someone with my IQ shouldn’t even be talking to someone like you.
Not an argument.

>>12714604
>Not an argument.
not an argument

>>12714616
>not an argument
NOT an argument

>>12714645
>>not an argument
>NOT an argument
Not an argument.

>>12713822
That's just a bunch of anglos, anon.

>>12713800
Post it, let's discuss it. I'm curious.

>>12714947
>Homer, Dante, Virgil, Ovid, Lautréamont, Rimbaud, Vyasa
>Anglos
Anon, I...

I like Dylan's songwriting as much as anyone else, but without the music it's not remotely the same. Sure some of his best lyrics could pass for a respectable poem. But if I read a collection of his lyrics and was told this was some great poet I'd be severely disappointed.