/lit/ - Literature

>>12705982
The Greeks. The Greek city states' views helped shape their political systems.

>>12705982
Glen Beck, then move onto his influences like Trotsky.

>>12705982
By getting a stable career, marrying and having children, and being a homeowner.

Donald J Trump

>>12705982
/pol/.

Start with political history and work your way into a camp. Most people just do the latter, but beginning with the former can give you a less naive understanding of your nation's politics. If American start with the politics of the late 18th century and work your way up or you'll just make baseless claims about the thinkers of old like most folks do.
t. American so I couldn't tell you what period to start in other nations, but the process should apply the same to most albeit with more or less content to sift through. It's usually safe to set your starting point around the era of enlightenment since most modern ideas came into more substantial form and discussion then and on

>>12705982
Claude Lefort

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>>12705988
>Do not read The Republic first
I agree with this. I remember reading it before I read The Trial and Death of Socrates and have to say I regret doing so. The Republic itself is an amazing piece that challenges the thoughts of just and injust actions. I wasn't as interested in it until I had read The Trials then continued on reading The Republic, as it makes you have a sense of dramatic irony over Socrates defending it, while rethinking if the trials were even just actions.

>>12705982
alan ryan book about politics

>>12705982
Kymlicka's introduction is golden.

>>12705982
You start, and end, with Aristotle's Politics.

>>12705982
I like Foucault

>>12705982
Study religion and psychology first. People act out their beliefs; "I am hungry, I must eat."
Once you realize the needs behind many things as external memetic parasites / symbiotes AND have figured out a preferred state of being that does not necessarily align with anybody else's understanding, then you can read politics for the purpose of changing the world or to know where things are headed so that you can prepare for that.

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>>12708439
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>>12708439
>thinking /pol/tards read

>>12708439
>>12708447
How to waste a lot of time on a journey to being made fun of both by laymen and academics alike

A History of Western Political Thought by J. S. McClelland

>>12706013
>oikonomika as the basis of true politika
Well done, my disciple.

>>12708041
How do I begin? Especially with psychology, there's a whole bunch of garbage out there.

>>12708439
>>12708447
Selecting a small sample of western thought to reaffirm your biggotry kek.

OP should read a bigger variety of points of view for sure. I'd recomend the Parallax View by Zizek, it gives a very good overview of politics, philosophy and some psychoanalysis. Politics can involve most subjects so, really, just read a ton of non-fiction, some fiction is relevant as well ofc.

>>12708439
>where to start with politics?
>two orwell books and huxley
Wow

>>12709005
>zizek

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>>12709005
nothing wrong with either of those lists, regardless of who it was made by
t. political philosophy grad

>>12709005
It's ok Anon, no one here knows anything about politics, if the first and only books mentioned is from a meme, then the poster has only dipped as far as the memes.

>>12709433
>the lord of the rings

>>12706013
based

>>12706013
OP said political philosophy, not being an NPC.

>>12705982
Don't

>>12705982
John Locke and Thomas Hobbes.

>>12709433
There is everything wrong with both of those lists and who made them
t. PhD in Introduction to Political Philosophy

>>12706013
undeniably based

>>12705982
One embarks with the Marx

>>12709612
>He thinks having property, children, and a valuable position is being an NPC
Yeesh. Honestly you shouldn't even be allowed to vote unless you have those things.

Carl Schmitt

>>12708447
Anything besides reactionary right (uncle ted) is shit and for mentally retarted

>>12709980
Gtfo Nazi.

Alexis De Tocqueville, OP

>>12708447
>Spengler is 'right wing socialism'
Spengler becoming popular online was a massive mistake

Listen to Bill Cooper, especially his later material