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You're never going to do it and your delusions of solitude are not worth being posted on /lit/. Delete this thread and go to the gym, to sleep or to masturbate furiously.

>>12608532
youll get fined by the government

>>12608532

>>12608589
That's the saddest part. Even without trying to disturb society, and just trying to be alone, it gets in my way

>>12608532
buy enough food and wine, and don't leave your home for months. it's easier than going for the mountains.

Solitude by Anthony Store
A book of silence by Sarah maitland

>>12608532
If you live in nature like that you won't even have time read except before beddy-bye time. It takes a full day to upkeep a place like that

>>12608532
I think living in the wild requires a lot of energy and work, as much as I sometimes want to go Kaczynski style, you wouldn’t really be able to study and read as much because you’d be trying to survive and keep from freezing to death or starving.

I sometimes feel the same way though, and if I were to do it, I think moving to a medium sized city where rent is cheap (somewhere like in Idaho, Montana, or New Hampshire) finding a studio apartment, and just have a bed and a writing desk, maybe a bookshelf, that would be the way to go.

Work a part time job and don’t spend money on new clothes, fast food, or any forms of entertainment. I believe you could live simply and rewardingly off that. You could even get a library card so you don’t spend money on books.

What really is a distraction is technology and the accumulation of things, if you can get rid off/reign in those things, I believe you will find what you are looking for.

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>>12609451
Sustaining a single person in such a lifestyle is not that hard, but the first few years will be non-stop work while you get established. After that itbecomes more seasonal with huge work loads when it comes time to plant or harvest with slack time between where you just need to do maintenance and projects to improve your quality of life. If you are in the frozen north you get to spend the winter largely living off of the hardwork of the unfrozen months, just need to collect next years firewood and do some hunting, plenty of free time. This all assume you have the needed skills and not just going into it thinking you will just scatter seeds and feast.

In reality reading is more likely to stop because it serves little purpose when you are alone in the woods, just reminds you of what you left.

>>12609451
This sounds great to me. I'd like to be a lonely tailor, living with the least possible, just enough to shop books; modern hermites at the edge of society.

pack your bags and go, plus I think you're going to get away for an hour or so, there really are things that distract us, but we can not spend all our time studying.

read "Anti-Tech Revolution" and "Technological Slavery"

>>12608532
how old are you OP?

>>12608532
Honest answer here, no sarcasm, no irony, nothing but my truth.

Once I met a friend who's as much in knowledge as I am, everything seems so different. I got feedback, and good one, when my ideas wern't good he told me so, I did the same to him. We try to be honest to each other as much as we could. The result is what I think is very good discussions, sometimes hours longs, sometimes only minutes before heading to the pub joining our respective friends. All of that text to say that I could never have so much knowledge without this guy. Of course there is others people, other friends even whom I get so much wisdom but not as much as this guy. He gave me important things to my knowledge: feedback, honesty, new perspectives.

I try my best to do the same to him. Hermit is good only for a short time I guess because hard truth and good knowledge must encounter other peoples.

>>12608532
It depends on where do you live Anon. Hunting can be hard someplaces, but in warmer shitholes like my country is really easy to get food and just make a place. Plus you don't have to worry about the winter.

This thread is making me think of a great Lessig quote

>The true value of a man is not determined by his possession, supposed or real, of Truth, but rather by his sincere exertion to get to the Truth. It is not possession of the Truth, but rather the pursuit of Truth by which he extends his powers and in which his ever-growing perfectibility is to be found. Possession makes one passive, indolent, and proud. If God were to hold all Truth concealed in his right hand, and in his left only the steady and diligent drive for Truth, albeit with the proviso that I would always and forever err in the process, and offer me the choice, I would with all humility take the left hand, and say: Father, I will take this one—the pure Truth is for You alone.

>>12609523
Call me stupid but I don't see how daily chores would take more than 8 hours. Especially if you don't start from scratch but get a small farm, some kind of generator, well built house and over all go in prepared. Once you get used to it I'm sure you'd have a lot of free time.

>>12610293
It really depends on the time of year and what needs to be done. You will work sun up to sun down for weeks at a time, and you will have weeks at a time where you have next to nothing to do, most of the time you will have a few hours of work. This all assumes you are in a temperate region with proper winter, only area I really know. If you do not have a proper winter you will likely hunt and fish more and grow crops to be eaten fresh and not stuck in the root cellar, likely less hard working long days but more day to day work.

Having a generator is more work than it is worth in the end, just means you need to haul fuel, one adapts fairly quickly to minimal or no electricity. A solar panel can give you some light if you must, or charge a laptop/phone/tablet. The hardest part of life without electricity is the lack of refrigeration, but that has good points as well, not relying on refrigeration means you do not find yourself in a situation where your power is out and you loose a large quantity of food and in the north you only really need to store foods in the winter when nature will freeze your food for you.

>>12608532
>I don't know how I'm going to eat or to keep hygienic

it got warm here yesterday and i bathed for the first time this year aside from just using a wet rag,you dont know much about living like in your picture.

>>12610687
Neither do you it seems. A small wood fired sauna or hot tub is all you need and neither are much work to fire up once a week. Hot tube is a pain due to water needs, but depending on your locality can be simple enough. Sauna take little work at all and at that size uses very little wood.

Soaking in a wood fired tube under the winter stars is a great joy.

>>12610742
i actually live outside

>>12610742
want to be a hermit but be a materialist that owns land

>>12610742
just fire up the ole metal hot tub with my non existent wood and hope my wet fingers dont freeze to any metal i touch

>>12608532
>thing I value the most is knowledge
you should work at NAPA. they have insane inventory

just move out of the city you fag

>>12610784
And? Just because you do it does not mean you know how to do it. No reason to go months scrubbing yourself with a rag, make yourself a little sauna anon.

>>12610862
on whose land? guess i will just do it on the land between the road and the barbed wire because that wont get me arrested

>>12610806
Or wants to be a hermit but wants to live in comfort without going to prison for building/farming on public land or rely on someone else to not sell/loose the land they let you live on.

>>12610844
You make it out of wood, bit of metal to keep wood from charring, the wood will be far to saturated to ever burn. You can do a full stone or steel firebox if you prefer, lots of ways to do wood fired hot tubs, never would make one out of metal though.

I love when people use their ignorance to try and prove others ignorant.

>>12608532
Get neetbux from the government and become a NEET. Fake having schizophrenia or something if you can't qualify.

>>12610876
dont mind me im just pulling these here rocks from your hill to make me a steamy sauna in yonder copse of trees

>>12610876
If you have no land to tie you down, why are you not following the weather?

I too am very interested in asceticism. I would suggest reading up on the Desert Fathers because they actually generally seem to be against such behavior. At least in terms of it being some kind of decision that one makes all at once. You undoubtedly have a romanticized view of what it would actually be and are misplacing your desires.

>"It is better to have many about thee, and to live the solitary life in they will, than to be alone, and the desire of they mind be with the crowd."

Interestingly enough, it would seem that near the end of the Roman Empire, going to live in the deserts of Egypt became a bit of a fad due in part to St. Anthony. Thousands of people poured into the deserts and actually made it a bit of a farce given that they weren't truly committed, weren't going about it the right way, and the overcrowding actually made it not so secluded. I find similarities in this new trend or general desire to want to live in conversion vans, tiny houses, secluded cabins, etc. It's like this is a natural reaction to living in a state of decline.

>>12608532
I live in Tennessee, and I know this guy who goes by Critter. He's kind of a hermit and he lives by the river. Every now and then I go visit him and shoot the breeze. Sometimes I think he's got shit figured out, and sometimes he seems really lonely and sad.