/lit/ - Literature

>>12595470
I have no favorite kind of pain
It’s pain all the same
Love is suffering and the vagina is my mortal enemy

>>12595470
The lady with the dog by Chekhov. It is only 20 pages or so, so anyone who hasn't read it must do so before the day is over

>tfw love is basically chemicals that force you to feel

>>12595470
In the Desert, by Stephen Crane


In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
Who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, “Is it good, friend?”
“It is bitter—bitter,” he answered;

“But I like it
“Because it is bitter,
“And because it is my heart.”

>>12595508
>tfw that sounds logical and satisfying

>>12595508
Fire is a chemical reaction.

>>12595522
So is my mixtape

>>12595470
Where do I get beautiful paintings like this? What's the genre called?

Me on the right. I'm about to weep with joy and sob with despair

>>12595537
Impressionism

>>12595537
Impressionism or Macchiaioli.

That's pretty bad though. Have a good one.

>>12595537
This is an oil portrait if I’m not mistaken
Look for more pinterest is a good source

>>12595537
It's basically vaguely post-impressionist brushwork applied to something that looks as if it was originally a met-art photograph, just googling something like "sexy nude girl oil painting" should show you ton of those, one more samier than the other. For some reason, the painters of those are almost always Russian.

>>12595576
Painters of the 19th century always painted beautiful/naked women, but what makes op's picture different from those is vulgarity. You don't need a degree to understand it's trashy and grossly sexual.

>>12595589
>the girl having a nice figure instead of being shaped like a """"realistic"""" fat pig makes the image vulgar
Wonder who's behind this roastpost

>>12595622
Yeah I agree. The reason why it's more erotic is because the women are hotter.

>>12595622
Lmao, how wrong you are. Probably a tasteless burger who can't distinguish between fine art and fan art.

>>12595470
This picture is gross, borderline porn, which is saying something because I'm a pervert

>>12595636
This.

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>>12595633
>still no actual reasoning for why the image is "vulgar"
Atleast make it difficult to detect you, roastie

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>>12595667
I never called it vulgar your retard. I actually asked where I could get a picture like that because I like it so much.

>>12595667
It just is. You don't have to explain everything you fucking pathetic anglo.

>>12595679
People answered.

La Vita Nuova

>>12595687
True that people answered. Doesn't make you less retarded though

> Beautiful women

>>12595695
I'm not the anon you think you're replying to

>>12595700
The only thing gross about that image is the resolution

>>12595589
>Modernists aren't famous for painting obvious whores
The fact you can see she's well muscled and thin would have been a sign she's very low class in the 19th century. Are you trying to channel Ruskin's defense of academia?

>>12595505
This is a great recommendation.

>>12595700
More beautiful than your (inexistent) gf

>>12595710
Shut your dumb mouth. I only said painters were able to make beautiful paintings out of women. Now it's just pornography.

no one saying anna karenina? okay then, anna karenina

>>12595731
Yes, how awful they let Olympia be shown in the Refused Salon. When will we get back to prepubescent nymphs being raped by goats as our moral standards demand?

https://lyricstranslate.com/it/ho-sceso-dandoti-il-braccio-million-stairs.html

I went down, giving you my arm, at least one million stairs and now, when you are no more here,
it’s the void on every step.
Also in such way our long journey has been short too.
Mine still goes on, and I need no more coincidences, reservations, traps, the scorns of those who believe
that the reality is what you see.

I went down millions stairs giving you my arm
not just because with four eyes perhaps you see more.
With you I went down ’cause I knew that between us
the only true pupils, though such obfuscated,
were yours.

— Eugenio Montale

>>12595550
Today would be the day to read Vita Nuova

Love is enough: though the World be a-waning,
And the woods have no voice but the voice of complaining,
Though the sky be too dark for dim eyes to discover
The gold-cups and daisies fair blooming thereunder,
Though the hills be held shadows, and the sea a dark wonder
And this day draw a veil over all deeds pass’d over,
Yet their hands shall not tremble, their feet shall not falter;
The void shall not weary, the fear shall not alter
These lips and these eyes of the loved and the lover.

>>12595470

I remember this thread from back in 2014. It was a great poem imho:

>>/lit/thread/4635052

>>12595791
That cover is surprisingly similar to the Italian edition

>>12595589
Never have I implied anything about 19th cnetury, matter of fact I am agreeing with you, you fucking nigger subhuman.

Writing a love poem today. Any sources or models to steal from? I dont reall write poetry anymore.

>>12595622
It's mainly the pose and the melodramatic light, and you are the kind of neckbeard who would look at pic related and say "hmmm, fine art, yes, indubitably, only feminist roasties would disagree."

kino alert

>>12595833
And never have I contradicted you, you fucking gay homo. Btw I'm happier than you because I got three replies and you got just one, kek.

>>12595810
>tfw I remember this thread

/lit/ used to be so good

>>12595470
Marquez, is great for that.

>>12595861
I'm the guy you were responding to, don't believe everything anon says. I'm >>12595738 >>12595710
And you never responded to my actual reply to you since that would take a basic knowledge of modernism and academic art, of which you have neither.

>>12595556
this is way worse than OP, look how amorphous that long ass is, not to mention the blatant kitsch present in everything from the color palette to the subject matter

at least OP is interesting as a pre-instagram instagram thot post, while being painted in a more interesting way

>>12595898
That Instagram comparison is interesting.

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>>12595905
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>12595881
Lol, what a pretentious gay teen. I don't need to reply to random assertions about fucking Ruskin. I know Impressionism, Macchiaioli and Post-Impressionism better than you, and that's enough. Big talk on the internet is for losers, contemplating beautiful paintings is for based people like me.

>>12595898
It's pretty obvious you're a tasteless burger. That painting is extremely well made and graceful. Your instagram shit is at non-existent level. Not just for me, but for any art critic in the world (maybe except in the United Memes of America)

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>>12595920
>random assertions about fucking Ruskin.
>>12595710
>Ruskin's defense of academia
You know, there might be a famous trial about modernism and academia which Ruskin took against someone that might be a big deal in the art world. Just saying.
>>12595738
>When will we get back to prepubescent nymphs
There might also be a rumour which is hilarious about Ruskin and a certain someone getting painted by someone else because of this. I mean, if you were au fait with the era, which you're not.
>I know Impressionism
Pity about that trial being a big thing in impressionist circles. I mean, if there were basically educated people here, they might laugh at you over this, for reasons you obviously already know, being such an expert.

>>12595738
You started by defending the painting in the OP, which is--as has been gracefully pointed out to you--a sloppy, vulgar work with a vague impressionistic air. Now you're invoking Olympia and "moral standards", and you still haven't succeeded in making any sense. You still don't understand it's not about defending "roasties" or "realism"; it's not realism that painting is lacking, nor is it this or that of your idiotic identity politics stance, whichever that may be. You've been derailing the thread every so often and spurting your inane opinions like a beheaded chicken flailing its gore around and fouling up the place, and with just about as much insight. Can you just--be off and spare us your bird-brained babble?

>>12595940
How to say nothing with a long post
laughingmeme.jpg

>>12595530
I broke up with my ex girl
Here's her number
Sike, that's the wrong number!

>>12595952
>laughingmeme.jpg
Thoughts without intuitions are empty

>>12595960
Fuck off Kant you're outdated

>>12595945
>Now you're invoking Olympia and "moral standards", an
It's almost like Manet and the Salon des Refusées are shit you're supposed to know about to be basic in the arts. It's like basic art hoe bitches might be more informed than you.
>"roasties" or "realism"
I said neither of these things, but while you bring it up, even precursors to modernism like realism were also about obvious obscenity, pic related being fine art

You know, you can read any basic intro on 19th century art, as can any anon, and get a healthy dose of cringe for your idiot bluster.

>>12595952
It's like I deliberately didn't spoon-feed you information you should already know to be competent. Weird, huh?

>>12595933
Oh fuck off, both paintings have little artistic merit, I only mentioned instagram as it's funny how similar OP looks to what instagram "influencers" would post. They not only aim to be overtly sexual while trying to avoid full frontal nudity, but also sell a lifestyle: being fit and young, traveling, having adventures, and whatever else would make people want to be them. They also hide their faces often, the visual similarity is uncanny.

What you posted is cheap in a more traditional sense, it's plain old kitsch. Warm colors, intimacy of the unmade bed, the woman is handling flowers for fucks sake. Sorry, but the painting is heavy handed in that regard and generally unremarkable.

>>12595967
Your pic related is more true and authentic than anything you might like in your pretentious mind. Also, you keep posting pointless bullshit, just saying.

>>12595991
>more true and authentic
Way to destroy your previous argument for academic art
>>12595991
>than anything you might like in your pretentious mind
You do know I chose the image I uploaded, right? I'm not outsourcing that, or whatever you think is happening to make it not my aesthetic choice.

You sound like it would be easy for fresher art students to make you cry, btw. This much arrogance when a basic fact check or knowledge of the era would prove you stupendously wrong always signals weakness.

What We Talk About When We Talk About Love is one of my favorite short story collections of all time

>>12595856
I never made any such claim about the piece in the OP nor did I say I even liked it. I just find it funny that when the woman in the piece has an attractive figure its vulgar but when its a painting of a woman with a beat-ass face and a concave ass its suddenly "high art".

>>12596022
>Raymond Carver

I never heard of this guy before, anon. Care to blackpill me on him?

>>12596028
idk one of the renovators of the American short story. Each one of the stories in the book deal with love as thing complex, torturous thing. You can probably find them online at this point.

>>12595810
>I want to lather your body with the foam of nebulae
Lol it's shit, hopefully the original in Portuguese is better

>>12595470
White Nights by Dostoevsky

>>12596121
Didnt he was also a painter. How can a man be that based?

>>12596130
that doesnt look like paint

>>12595470
Pablo Neurda's poems
>>12596121
A soul crushing ending

>>12595470
My Twisted World

>>12595470
Name of the painting?

>>12595470
Farewell to Arms, Frederick and Catherine's relationship was cute.

>>12595470
This post has nothing to do with the thread topic but seeing all these beautiful women makes me want to say this for all the people like me alone on Valentine's Day and without hope for love:

I'm unemployed and have no place of my own. I just applied to tons of entry level office tier jobs this week. I'm no adonis and certainly not ugly. I was lucky to have a small group of friends at one point in high school and a couple of years afterwards. I have had my ups and downs but I'm happy and grateful for what I do have: a home and shelter and parents who love me. I am going to at least try to get somewhere and get my own apartment. There's one problem down. If I'm alone forever so be it, I don't care anymore. But I will at least try to approach women and date even though I'll be a late bloomer. And if I don't at least I'll have my /lit/ bros. And if a nuclear war breaks out and the internet dies I'm sure we will all find each other just like how women know you're a virgin or not and discuss literature in the post atomic wasteland.

Peace out frens.

>>12596683
based

Listen to me, you incels. You idolize women because of your own shortcomings. You somehow think they will bring you happiness and worth. But the truth is, you alone can provide that for yourself, no one else can. Women are great and all, but there’s more to life than having a gf. I imagine most of these incels fawning over Instagram thots are 18-24 (>he uses social media). Incels have to work on themselves before they can truly be comfortable enough with their person around women. I used to be like you guys until my ex gf came along. To make a long story short, we dated for a while until I eventually broke up with her. Here was a woman I thought I would marry. Boy, was I wrong. More often than not we were fighting or I would have to appease her for something trivial she was upset about. Relationships are great but take a lot of money, time, and work to maintain. People liken it to riding a roller coaster, which I think is an accurate description . At one point in our relationship, though, right after putting him with some of her contrived irrational drama, I had a premonition. She was a NPC liberal. It would never have worked out, as she was obstinately set to her ways. I never told her I was a Trumptard. When a relationship ends, you’ll remember only the good times, not the bad. Life goes on. It’s a good experience, young love. It’ll teach you a lot about yourself and women. I wish it upon all you virgins.

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>>12596061
Yup. It's a sappy romance novel at heart, despite appearances. And even those work into the metaphor of it all nicely.

>>12595470
"Three things are too wonderful for me;
Yes, four I do not understand:
The way of an eagle in the air,
The way of a serpent on the rock,
The way of a ship in the midst of the sea,
and the way of a man with a maiden.
- Proverbs 30:18

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>>12596971
Based and relationshipilled.

Love doesn’t exist.

>>12595470
Stoner with Katherine

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>>12595556
I've always liked this one a lot,, even if it's so famous everyone has already seen it

>>12598649
Name?

>got out of work 2 hours ago
>work in the center of the city so have to see a shit ton of couples walking around
>girls looking cute with their dresses and skirts all fixed up
>there I was walking alone with a straight serious face like always
shit’s depressing I don’t even think it’s about being good looking or having game, it’s more about showing yourself up and being a part of things, but I’ve been in a spiraling isolation and the ideas one gets when he is in states like these are so radical and against everything that you just end up not connecting to anything anymore. The one man I get along with at work is 64 and I’m 23. lol

>>12595678
What a baller

>>12598649
May I suggest to you the artist Daeni Pino? He's one of my favorite contemporary artists and has such a fresh and elegant aura to all of his paintings that no other artist has been able to mimic in my personal opinion.

>>1259550
Fucking materialists and their reductionist world views

>>12595505
thanks for the rec

>>12597476
This

>>12595496
2pbp

>>12595470
To His Coy Mistress
-Andrew Marvell

Had we but world enough and time,
This coyness, lady, were no crime.
We would sit down, and think which way
To walk, and pass our long love’s day.
Thou by the Indian Ganges’ side
Shouldst rubies find; I by the tide
Of Humber would complain. I would
Love you ten years before the flood,
And you should, if you please, refuse
Till the conversion of the Jews.
My vegetable love should grow
Vaster than empires and more slow;
An hundred years should go to praise
Thine eyes, and on thy forehead gaze;
Two hundred to adore each breast,
But thirty thousand to the rest;
An age at least to every part,
And the last age should show your heart.
For, lady, you deserve this state,
Nor would I love at lower rate.
But at my back I always hear
Time’s wingèd chariot hurrying near;
And yonder all before us lie
Deserts of vast eternity.
Thy beauty shall no more be found;
Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound
My echoing song; then worms shall try
That long-preserved virginity,
And your quaint honour turn to dust,
And into ashes all my lust;
The grave’s a fine and private place,
But none, I think, do there embrace.
Now therefore, while the youthful hue
Sits on thy skin like morning dew,
And while thy willing soul transpires
At every pore with instant fires,
Now let us sport us while we may,
And now, like amorous birds of prey,
Rather at once our time devour
Than languish in his slow-chapped power.
Let us roll all our strength and all
Our sweetness up into one ball,
And tear our pleasures with rough strife
Through the iron gates of life:
Thus, though we cannot make our sun
Stand still, yet we will make him run.

>>12595933
>That painting is extremely well made and graceful
Or maybe you could learn to fucking see.

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>>12599082
I just read it and don't get what the big deal is, maybe because I've never been in love before. Good for them for finally finding true love I suppose.

>>12595643
Mommy.

>>12595557
if you don't know, why respond?

jesus.

>>12598927
Thinking about it always makes me smile because however pathetic I am, at least I'm not on the level of Werther.

>>12598927
Is there an edition with both English and German?

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>>12598649
My God, that is the most beautiful painting I've ever seen.

>>12595589
Really good erotic art...become a Catholic monk

>>12595508
>hey hey hey mortyyyyy
>did you k-BURP-now TTT-that love doesn't exist?
>TTT-that's right morty its all chemical reactions

>>12600272
You'll understand when you fall in love.

>>12601468
I didn't say that that was a bad thing though. It's a fact that love is dopamine, serotonin and their effects on the brain.

>>12595508
Imagine thinking emotions or any experiences are reducible to chemicals in their content

>>12601099
Monet is beautiful, I don't care what anyone says

>>12601547
it's just a bunch of squiggly lines

>>12601742
you're just a bunch of squiggly lines!

>>12601748
did somebody puke on that canvas?

>>12600064
one of the goat poems.

>>12601017
or the people who killed themselves inspired by it.

Spring Snow, by Yukio Mishima.

>>12601547
yes

>tfw never made it past the kissing stage in any relationship
>women always end up liking me as like a younger brother because I'll talk about feelings and shit with them
>even after groping and kissing each other
>every single time
Any books about being fed up with women's bullshit? What more do you want you absolute bastards?

>>12601829
looks like saya no uta

>>12602998
uh you shouldn't be having sex before marriage

>>12602998
tip: don't blame all women for your personal deficiencies

>>12602998

>talking about feelings
This is where you fucked up. There is nothing that dries up a pussy faster than this. The second that a girl gets a hint of weakness in you, she loses all interest. They can smell it like a dog smells fear.