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I think this is the best board to talk about this subject.

How is the education of the elite? I've been thinking a lot about this lately, mostly because of the Peace Revolution podcast and John Taylor Gatto videos. What is the curriculum of the elite education and what is necessary to think like them?

>> No.12584252

>>12584221
There's financial elite and cognitive elite. Financial elites come from good families and their education, in truth, is of no greater level than the general pop. These people get into Ivy's through legacy programs, get humdrum degrees in history or philosophy, may or may not pursue law school (getting good LOCs from their contacts) and are hooked up with some kind of job afterward. These people are only moderately above average intelligence

Cognitive elites come from anywhere and do actually demanding STEM degrees at elite universities. These people are the one who do impressive things with their lives. They then, with some luck and conniving, become the financial elites and their kids can just go through route A.

If you think there is some special curriculum for influential people you're mistaken. At least, there isn't one in any school. They learn the "elite" knowledge on the job and by experience. You quickly acclimate yourself to the politics of your workplace, which is the real hurdle you will have to overcome

>> No.12584276

wow nice anti-semitic tropes u fuckin nazis

>> No.12584285

from what I can tell at a HYPSM, nothing exceptional. actually pretty lacking.

>> No.12584389

>>12584252
source for anything said

>> No.12584819

>>12584252
>Financial elites come from good families and their education, in truth, is of no greater level than the general pop
Are you serious?

>> No.12584858

>>12584819
Yeah, that bit's slightly off. Their education is better than average because the average level is so low, but nowhere near the level of, say, top-tier Asian schools.

>> No.12584878

>Elites
The truth is much more frightening anon, nobody is in control, nobody understands shit, we are all in a wild ride. And the direction is set by an ideology more than 4,000 years old.

>> No.12584885

>>12584276
Nazism is pro-NWO

>> No.12584901

You can usually find syllabi for courses at the Ivy Leagues and other elite colleges online pretty easily

>> No.12584925

I unironically believe in the Illuminati, and want to take them down. I believe one of the dominant hands by which they operate is that of the scientific institution that presently rules our world.

I am writing a book right now, attacking the lies of science and teaching people the nature of consciousness directly, attempting to guide them to "gnosis" if you desire to call it that, based on my own experiences as a mystic and my own (believed) understandings on reality's monistic/nondual nature. Do any of you here think such a book would be successful, if it could somehow get published? Something attacking all the major scientific narratives of the past few centuries, and reasserting my own ones based on my understandings of consciousness and reality's nature? Don't think I'm being a narcissist here, I don't hold my person or philosophy highly at all. But I want to erode those of mainstream science, and believe I have plenty of cogent arguments to do so. Would a book that aims to do this, be able to be read by a modern public? Or would the authorities, themselves being scientists, find a way to censor it?

Please help me guys. Pretend, for a second, that I "do" have knowledge, and that I "could", prove literally everything said by scientists, on the overall nature of reality (Big Bang, Evolution, think of whatever other major narratives exist), to be incorrect. And that I'm not just some deluded, pretentious 4chan-anon, who thinks he knows something, but in reality knows nothing at all. If the above were true, how would I go about giving this knowledge to the public, whose hands I'm trying to place it into? This is all I desire to know. Please help me. I know nothing about books or publishing anything, and wasn't an aspiring author until my mystical investigations led me to (perceived) understandings that I now seek to share with the world. But I'm utterly clueless as to how I'd go about the process.

Thank you.

>> No.12584940

>>12584901
I know, I mean something more... let's say, hidden, maybe?

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12584959

>>12584925
>Do any of you here think such a book would be successful, if it could somehow get published?
That has been published already.

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12584984

>>12584878
This is such a dumb fucking narrative. Your scenario isn't more frightening by any means. Blows my mind how anyone could convince themself of this, especially on a literature board when literally all you need to do is read a few books.

>> No.12585015

>>12584925
I would absolutely read it, but I hesitate to assume you're credible because you don't even understand that it's impossible to give the truth to the public.

>> No.12585023

>>12584940
What, you want a syllabus for the secret mind control class they teach at Phillips Exeter?

>> No.12585039

>>12585015
What do you mean by this, and why do you say it? Why can't they be given truth?

>> No.12585048

>>12585023
Not quite what I was looking for but now yes

>> No.12585091

>>12585039
If any major scientific narratives are lies, and I'm sure some are, they're upheld by a lot more force than you'll ever have access to. Surely you understand this if you believe in the illuminati.

>> No.12585169

>>12584252
This exactly. The Ivy League university circuit is the fucking definition of middlebrow mediocrity. "Moderately above average" nails it, but somehow coupled with the completely unironic pretense of being super-intelligent junior world leaders, because they read one trendy Benjamin essay and coasted through a few classes of lowest common denominator bildung, at what used to be the high school level. Rich little brats seriously think their grade-deflated 4-year summer camp is an actual intelligentsia.

The biggest weakness of the wealthy is that they would rather pay for the comforting simulation of being an intelligentsia than actually work to become (and maintain) one. If rich people were even slightly capable of seeing the atrophy that this causes, and had enough willpower to do even the bare minimum work necessary to counter it, they could be an unstoppable oligarchy forever. Even mediocre intellectuals, as long as they are real intellectuals, could permanently outclass and outthink the rare straggler geniuses produced by the lower classes despite all the pressures and distractions endured by the latter.

All of the variables and force multipliers are in favour of the established oligarchy, they are better organised and better situated to exploit a single drop of hard work and talent as long as they have that drop. But they let all the potential drops dry up so that they can continue spending 4 years in carefree extended high school, never actually taxing themselves.

A very small percentage of them become "cognitive elites" by fluke, in this poster's phrasing, but even those ones are still corrupted by and absorbed into the do-nothing financial elite caste. Either they start out rich, in which case they can't differentiate their genuine passion/talent from their "lifestyle" (rich people are a walking "lifestyle," to which everything else is subordinate and secondary), or they fluke their way into the ivory tower and get absorbed into those same behaviours anyway because they are surrounded 24/7 by rich lifestylers. For every 100 PhD students at Harvard, 97 of them will be rich do-nothing jobbers who contributed nothing, 2 will be potentially passionate rich people whose passion never reached critical mass because their day-to-day cow-like existence was just too pleasant to ever overturn completely, and the remaining 1 will be an uplifted plebeian house negro who takes on the worldview of his leisure class masters.

If you're looking for a conventional aristocracy it doesn't exist. The only aristocrats are now exiles and inner émigrés. A fundamental premise of bourgeois victory over humanity is that technocracy replaces excellence, because excellence by definition excels the bounds of what exists and crosses over into something different. The whole essence of a bourgeois technocrat is not to allow anything different to exist, ever again. All that matters is keeping your family's membership in the hedonist mandarin class.

>> No.12585208

>>12585091
But does this mean that, as I asked above, a book which attacked them would not even receive publishing? Or if it were, would it afterward be heavily censored? Everyday, new books are published. People read them, like the anons on /lit/. They subsequently discuss them among eachother. And so on. This is just how this domain works.

What would be so difficult, then, about publishing a book that attacks dominant scientific narratives, and champions new ones based in spirituality, and having it be read and discussed by said reading-public?

>> No.12585246

>>12584252
>>12585169
I share your disdain for the bourgeoisie elites but this is just stupid. Misrepresenting the problem like this is just as harmful as not acknowledging there's a problem in the first place.

>> No.12585267

>>12585169
I disagree with you but thank you for the seemingly non-pasta effort-posting, it's stuff like this that keeps me coming back to /lit/.

>> No.12585408

>>12584925
>my mystical thinking has given me a more accurate view of the world than science

Your book sounds cool man and I feel like I know where you're coming from because I did way too make psychedelics in my youth, but there's no way people are not going to see you as deluded, as do I. Science isn't an ideology, it's a methodology. Look into epistemology.

If you think you can prove science "wrong" with a book you don't really get science. You can become an academic and then conduct scientific test that could prove a specific theory wrong, but that's already what is suppose to happen and what scientists try to do. Every time you prove something wrong about science you update it and make your picture of the world a bit more accurate.

What makes you so sure your view is correct? How do you know you're not deluded?

I'd read your book though.

>> No.12585449

>>12584925
I am in alignment with your sentiments regarding the scientific institution and their role in controlling our population by means of false narratives on reality, and I wish you could provide the public with the gnosis you describe yourself as having. As for your book, and the questions you've asked regarding its release, I sadly can't help you regarding what you desire to know. But if you get it published, I'll definitely be reading it. Good luck anon.

>> No.12585496

>>12585408
I understand epistomology, rather, I believe the scientists are the ones who do not, and their dominant theories to reflect this fact. Epistomology is a huge part of what I'm writing on.

I don't think I can prove "science" wrong (that statement doesn't mean anything), merely certain, specific narratives that are currently found within it, and have been for a long time now. I am not claiming that medical understandings, for example, are incorrect. Merely the overarching narratives, including those I mentioned earlier (big bang, evolution, etc).

I could absolutely be deluded, without question. But the book would simply be information, from my own perspective, that anyone with eyes and a mind could read for themselves, and evaluate using their own judgements. Nothing more, nothing less. Just information, just like all books contain information.

All I'm asking here is whether it would even be possible to publish something that contradicts what scientists have told the world, and have this be read by said world? Is that even feasible in the first place, especially for someone without background in the field, or even in academia at all? A literal nobody, writing a book presenting his own perspectives?

>> No.12585646

>>12585496
I see what your saying and yeah I think you would definitely be able to publish. I don't think scientists are covering up any conspiracy, if there is some generally accepted theory that is wrong I think every real scientist would want to know. If something like that exists it would probably be because no one is looking at it closely and it being really complex so you need serious time to even look at it close enough to see a problem.

Guys like Stephan Hawkins rail against their own theories sometimes. Science has no agenda other than find the truth. There's already lots of science that has been forced underground because it makes people uncomfortable, but its just hidden, not destroyed or censored. At least in the US...

>> No.12585755

>>12585646
Okay, thank you. I only disagree with you on the point regarding science being neutrally after the truth, and believe there to certainly be a materialism-cult/cabal which currently holds the most power, and have censored those who present narratives conflicting with theirs. Things like parapsychology being so discredited and without public platform, despite having already showcased many realities which their sector is devoted to investigating. As said, the book revolves around consciousness and would therefore be an attack on the major materialistic narratives which are presently peddled. That's the concept, anyway.

>> No.12585835

>>12585755
>materialism-cult/cabal which currently holds the most power, and have censored those who present narratives conflicting with theirs
I feel you man. Personally I just don't think it's a concerted effort, more just a product of personal biases of modern scientists all compounding over time. Not that that makes it better or your point any less relevant. Science is suffering from throwing the baby out with the bathwater regarding somethings. Consciousness is definitely a big one.

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12585997

i work in congress (i'm low level, nothing big) and know that in terms of the concentration of academic knowledge, there isn't much here.

there is one "library" that acts as a front for the type of education and power you're talking about, though. the congressman i work for is a member and it all seems very secretive and what not, but the guy who runs it apparently will dredge up mad obscure but important texts for people. you ask him for a list of "campaign finance" and he'll compile the best academic writing, scan it in, and summarize it for you as a public consulting service. from what i understand--and this is all circumspect and heresay--he also has ties to yarvin, surkov, etc.

there very much IS a special curriculum of texts and resources, stuff that is NEVER put up on this board, and its pretty much concentrated in the hands of just a few people:

glowworm.blog

seriously and unironically, find a way into that membership and you've found yourself among america's illuminati.

>> No.12586024

>>12585997
>glowworm.blog

Holy shit you motherfucker, that is what I am talking about. Thank you so much.

>> No.12586044

>>12585997
>>12586024
Also why did I never heard about such thing?

>> No.12586047

>>12584252
I go to a top Ivy League school and this is completely correct. Majority of minds here are absolutely mediocre, but the select few will run circles around you and everyone on this board - they are the future monarchs of the mind.

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12586067

>>12586024

hey man you're welcome, but straight up--and i really don't mean to fear monger or conspiracy dredge--but be careful with that one. LOTS of money, LOTS of power, the sorta confluence of high-end ivy league-level academics and hedge fund managers who mingle with philanthropists and senators. people like eliot cohen and meoldy hobson and roger altman and john elkann and nancy pelosi and larry fink and shit like that. seriously heavy hitters.

i've become obsessed with trying to figure out who it is behind it. i've been talking to all sorts of people around DC and post pictures of his library on shelf threads just to find some leads. nothing yet.

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>>12586044

because i only heard about it because my boss, a congressman, let it slip at one point. there's a reason you haven't heard about it, or that i hadn't heard about it, until someone who knows about it tells you directly.

>> No.12586086

>>12585997
Fascinating. Thanks, anon.
Got any DLC keys?

>> No.12586104

>>12584389
obviously there is none you spacker. The whole thing is pretty believable anecdote

>> No.12586110

>>12586086

DLC key? what's that?

>> No.12586118

>>12585997
You're the Washington DC anon with the big book collection, right?

>> No.12586128

>>12586067
>>12586082
I am overwhelmed by this. Makes total sense that a google search does not give you back much. I wish there were more reading lists though!

>> No.12586140

>>12584878
ayy dudeeee
*hits bong*
robert anton wilson
*exhales slowly*
wuz riteee
*coughs*

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12586148

>>12586118

no, i post it a lot, though. i'm admittedly jealous of it and want to find out more about it. not my collection.

i do live in DC, though. do you?

>>12586128

there's an archive somewhere of a whole bunch. crazy shit like "politics of illusion," "campaign aesthetics," "ancient divination and sacral power" and concentrated reading lists on nietzsche, plato, etc.

i want so fucking bad to request a whole series.

>> No.12586156

>>12585997
I'm an Ivy Leaguer, do you think I can meme my way to get access to this stuff?

>> No.12586161

>>12586148
How high up do you have to be? Do you think a 32nd degree mason would get in?

>> No.12586164

>>12586148
"politics of illusion," "campaign aesthetics," "ancient divination and sacral power"
This library thing deserves a thread seriously

>> No.12586171

>>12586164
It will probably be movied/renamed if too many normies know about it.

>> No.12586175

>>12586148
>there's an archive somewhere of a whole bunch
Anyone????????????????????????

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12586229

>>12586156
>>12586161

no idea what the process of invitation is like, no idea how its offered, no idea where it's actually located.

what i do know:
i have some vague idea of the membership, which i listed already above. you have to be very, very high up it seems--although i have heard rumors that people like angelo roefaro under schumer have membership. but he's still very well-connected.
i know that he will compile lists for you given whatever subject you want; he'll scan in the documents so they are all digital; he'll provide bullet-point summaries; and he'll send you the entire list of books upon request. it seems like a full run-down service, and i know that the people who use it really, really rely on it for any knowledge outside the usual mainlines.
i know the owner is a DC native, went to the high school "georgetown prep" (i know because there was mention of his "brotherhood" status with gorsuch and kavanaugh), and went to an ivy league of some kind (not sure which). i know that he's still pretty young, that he's wealthy and well-connected. i think that he works for a PR firm somewhere around dupont circle and has ties to the philips gallery, but that's very heresay.

beyond that i am desperately searching for any and all information.

>> No.12586237

>>12586229
>he will compile lists for you given whatever subject you want; he'll scan in the documents so they are all digital; he'll provide bullet-point summaries
Wait this is all a personal library? I thought it was a government place or something

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12586242

>>12586237

no dude...that's what i'm saying. one guy owns it, runs it, and pretty much controls the flow of real knowledge in and out of the higher levels of washington power.

i need to find this man.

>> No.12586255

>>12586242
can you write me a letter?

>> No.12586262

>>12586255

trust me, if i had a way in, i'd be in and would probably not be posting here.

>> No.12586263

>>12586242
>i need to find this man.
Any chance of a /lit/ Washington meetup? I could go there (even though I don't even live in America) and stay a couple of weeks to find things out.

>> No.12586276

>>12586263
Trailer Park Boys will take down the illuminati

>> No.12586281

>>12586263
Don’t do it Anon! I have it from a special source that this poster will kill you for knowing too much.

t. a friend

>> No.12586288

>>12586281
k I won't then

>> No.12586296

>>12586263

i've never been to any of those meetups, but i live in DC. they seem lame.

>> No.12586306

>>12586229
So this is what happened to francis bacon...

>> No.12586383

/lit/ meets /x/: the thread

>> No.12586389

sub meets human: the anon

>> No.12586409

>>12586175
am interested as well

>> No.12586547

>>12585997
Why would he keep a blog about it?

>> No.12586592

>>12584221
Being elite is about networking.
No matter what you achieve, if you have too many elite enemies you will fall, in one way or other.
You have to think of the "elite" as a series of club with different creeds, working mostly against each other.

>> No.12586626

>>12585169
Write a book

>> No.12586646

>>12586626
why anon

>> No.12586671

>>12584959
He said gnosticism not gay stuff.

>> No.12586767

>>12586671
Gnosticism is a great descriptor of my desired project. Would such a text, attempting to elucidate reality in such a manner, to such an audience as the ordinary public (not academia elites, nor those into esotericism), explained as clearly as can be, be possible in today's world?

>> No.12586798

>>12586767
>nor those into esotericism
I don't want to discourage you but it ain't happening with that requirement. Normalfags are literally incapable of understanding such things.

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>>12585169

i can say categorically that this isnt true

behind the layers of pluralism and interest politics--which are significant and many--there really is a cadre of incredibly intelligent people at least TRYING to run things. i don't think they succeed, in large part because there are a lot of really mediocre people at just as high levels of power, but they are there.

i want to know what they know. i want to know how it is that they see the world. i'll be honest with you: i have seen them, and i want to be them.

>> No.12586854

>>12586798
I have higher hopes for them my friend. I don't see myself as different from them in the first place. As of a few years ago, I was as ordinary a person as could be. Then, without my will, I went through a spiritual vortex, many strange experiences happened after, and let's just say I eventually came out the other end with certain, newfound "powers", if you wanted to call them that. Hinduism/Buddhism calls them "siddhis", and more than those, I have just understood certain things regarding consciousness now, experiential realities, that I want to explain to others and allow them to thereby experience them too. Concepts like subject-object phenomena-nondualism for example. But what you say has some truth to it, for sure. I just think that there's bound to people out there in the public who'd read it, even if they may outwardly seem like the type who would have no interest in such topics.

>> No.12586896

>>12586854
Can you give us a bit of what you understood here? Just a tiny bit.

>> No.12586952

>>12586896
Certainly, friend. I hope you're asking out of curiosity and not in attempt to insult me. Anyway, a very simple yet basic understanding is that of the subject-object phenomena-nondualism I mentioned earlier. What this refers to is the fact that you are yourself quite literally the reality around you, which you have presently considered "separate" from yourself by virtue of the lower-state of consciousness you reside in. This screen you're seeing these words on, and whatever other objects are presently beside you, are literally you. But your awareness is too constricted, bound around your body by the force of your mistaken identification with it, causing you to see these as "beyond you", but your hands, for example "as you". The same applies to sounds, for example. Sounds are not separate from you, but you perceive them as such because of the state of awareness you've placed yourself into. I hope these were decent explanations.

I would not only explain the nature of reality above, but try and guide people to experience it directly.

That's just a simple example, but the text is very comprehensive and would cover much more.

>> No.12586958

>>12586952
*but your hands, for example, "as you".
*the same applies to sounds.

Sorry, just cleaning up my sentences.

>> No.12586981

>>12586952
It is out of curiosity, yes, and I wish we could discuss that further in a decent way, something almost impossible on this board.
Do you intend these things you perceived to be
unprecedented/never said before? Because (no offense intended, really) it sounds to be like some sort of idealism or ultra-rationalism.
Anyway, I wish you luck with the publishing.

>> No.12587004

>>12586952

primary sources that cover this in some direct way: berkeley, wittgenstein, merleau-ponty. even huxley and blake.

secondary sources that try to trace this phenomenon: charles taylor, arthur lovejoy, jarold seigel, udo thiel.

why in the world do you think what you are claiming has not been THOROUGHLY explored previously? are you just not very well read?

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>>12586981
Perhaps I've mis-stated it then, but it isn't idealism. Meaning, it isn't simply saying "mind is everything", instead that everything within your awareness is inseparably and equally you, but until you've reached a state of awareness high enough, you will not see this. My explanations are definitely poor. What I'm trying to get at is that you are merely a field of awareness, and everything in that field is equally you. The objects you presently view and see as "other", if you enter the state I'm describing, will be viewed in front of you and seen as "you", because your awareness has now expanded enough that it has come to encompass it. The way that a photograph perceives everything in front of it as itself, without distinction. Like the picture attached, but imagining it with any object, such as a stranger's face, for example. Everything you see is literally you.

I hope that clarifies it. I'm not so sure it's "original", I'm certain it's been written of before, but I don't imagine most people actually understand it, or if they do, aren't really displaying such an understanding in their speech or writing. Philosophers always speaking about surrounding "objects", for example, not realizing themselves to be those very objects, without separation.

Thank you for the kind wishes though, I really appreciate that.

>> No.12587046

>>12587004
See >>12587038

>> No.12587169

>>12586067
you’re a liar. You do not work for a congressman. This isn’t some secret congressional library. It’s a library that some dude a while back pretended was his own and posted pictures of himself in it. I have the link with damn near hundreds of pictures. He was claiming he was a high level political consultant or some shit. Just blatant lies. Similar to you.

>> No.12587183

>>12587169

if everyone is a liar then what actually is it? help me find that out, at least.

>> No.12587240

>>12587183
I want to tease you since you seem so desperate for this but I’ll go look for the link now. At the very least you’ve made up an interesting story

>> No.12587249

>>12585997
This gives true meaning to the phrase "Knowledge is power."
Perhaps the most intriguing thread ever on /lit/.

>> No.12587261

>>12587240
i don't understand

you seem like you know what it is

i'm just asking you to tell me what it actually is--i don't need a link or anything

it's just someone's library?

>> No.12587303

>>12585997
>>12586024
>>12586067
>>12586164
>>12586229
its this twitter username: Penndraggon

the mystery deepens

>> No.12587346

>>12587303
One level deeper:

Here he is on lit posting pictures and claiming he’s a poweful campaign manager and this is his personal collection. A bit odd. His proof pictures seem to align. However, he’s just reposting pictures from glowworm.blog so who knows. Could be fake.

>>/lit/thread/12174177#p12174204

The twitter account certainly adds to the interest.

>> No.12587363

>>12587346
>sorry, that page doesn't exist!

yeah i'm not seeing what you're seeing

>> No.12587370

>>12584925

Be aware that it's almost impossible to sell books. Of the thousands of books published each year, few sell more than 10,000 copies.
That said, you should consider creating a marketing plan. The internet has made it possible to target specific demographics at little cost.

>See "The $100 Startup".

Regardless of how great your product is, nobody is going to open doors for you. Marketing is perhaps more important that Writing.

>> No.12587384

>>12587303
twitter deleted? you can still see it existed if you search "W. D. S. Pennington"

had two followers:
@cupofkafka
@g2institute

might have been a third i can't see it now

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>>12587346
>>12587384
also, the glowworm blog used to be "catalineconspiracycom" wordpress site but it's been edited

>> No.12587437

>>12587363
No idea why

Google “12177899 warosu.org”

>> No.12587438

>>12587370
Thanks alot. Sales were never my concern (I literally didn't think of that aspect once until you mentioned it just now), my only concern is with the information attempting to be communicated.

>> No.12587443

>>12587384
http://g2institute.org/new/
>The mission of the goodman2 institute is the exploration and development of a higher order reality principle – an aesthetic science that unifies art, nonlinear science, philosophy and culture
the fuck is this

>> No.12587449

>>12587303
How did you find the twitter name? Might help us solve this

>> No.12587476

>>12587370
Sorry, but to add, I will definitely try and come up with some kind of "business strategy" now that you've mentioned it to me. Think of me as merely something like one of those wandering yogis in India, of no name and few possessions, but having actually decided to put into writing his own experiences/perceived realizations, which most yogis don't tend to do. I'm not an author, or a businessperson, but a mystic first and last.

>> No.12587504

>>12587449
what exactly are we trying to solve?? not gonna lie, a little lost now

>> No.12587514

>>12587249
>Perhaps the most intriguing thread ever on /lit/.
OP here, I knew it had potential! I must admit though that I considered posting this on /x/ at first.

>> No.12587521

>>12587504
We're trying to figure out who this man is, and thus, potentially, the contents of his library.

>> No.12587526

>>12587443
its this joke twitter account @G2Institute but they could be related?
>>12587449
the guy behind this is deleting everything in real time, but the wordpress user behind both the glowworm blog and "catalineconspiracycom" is WDP214 and before they deleted they posted every one to their twitter (which was WDS Pennington, similar user name to WDP214). looks like they've even started deleting their old blog posts now but here is the google cache:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GYAQwudBGjQJ:https://catilineconspiracycom.wordpress.com/2017/04/06/1-25-on-michel-foucault-knowledgepower/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

>> No.12587532

>>12587384

He posted on lit a little while back from the glowworm.blog library. Here’s the thread he posted in claiming to be a big wig in dc.

>>/lit/thread/12174177

From cupofkafka twitter - I think this might be him - https://nolanbennett.com

>> No.12587533

>>12587526
the glowworm blog is a prank by the user "rapture", who posted here before:
>>/lit/thread/9343282

>> No.12587545

>>12587526
>https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GYAQwudBGjQJ:https://catilineconspiracycom.wordpress.com/2017/04/06/1-25-on-michel-foucault-knowledgepower/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

that's from almost 2 years ago--anything more recent? is this our guy??

>> No.12587562

>>12587526

>this site is marked private by its owner.

well lads it's been a run. seems like he caught wind.

>> No.12587571

before this thread is nuked because people are now posting actual names, i'll just conclude its a hoax by the user "rapture" who has posted images of his library here before, and who ran the blog "catalineconspiracycom" where he posted all of his content with old paintings similar to posts like the ones he is using in this thread. might be multiple users involved in the hoax because if you read the cached version of his old blog, some of the blog titles refer to a discord reading group, this is probably just some lit users LARPing as characters in Foucault's Pendulum, making up their own conspiracy and hoping it becomes an urban legend

nothing to see here

>> No.12587575

>>12587532
That's him - RIP his academic career

>> No.12587578

>>12587571

i dont understand--is that the library of a single person? you're saying it's a shared library from discord?

>> No.12587587

>>12587575

that's not him. cupofkafka was his follower. penndraggon is our guy.

>> No.12587607

yo what THE FUCK is going on is this larp or not

>> No.12587630

>>12587532
>>12587526

did anyone grab the email before the site was pulled?

>> No.12587646

>>12587571
THIS IS HIM.

https://nolanbennett.com

Rapture is our guy.

Read the bio on the website and now read this thread from rapture

>>/lit/thread/9327692#p9328000

>>12587575

Cupofkafka is his personal twitter. Penndraggon was his private Twitter to post his blog posts. They both are him.

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>>12587587
in the bio penndraggon claimed he went to cornell grad school, might be a pen name, might just be a random follower or acquaintance

More caches from the blog that now directs to the glowworm library page:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UGtWdjsRxN0J:https://catilineconspiracycom.wordpress.com/2017/04/13/1-32-notes-on-ancient-principles-of-conversion/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ENp9yFW1vmIJ:https://catilineconspiracycom.wordpress.com/2017/04/06/1-22-on-socratic-persuasion-a-typology-of-listening-in-the-republic/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

>> No.12587659

Can one of you anons above summarize what exactly you're on about? Totally lost here, but it seems you guys have found a hot lead on something big? Before TPTB shut this thread down, can you please tell me what you've discovered?

>> No.12587665

>>12587659
OP here, at this point, I am as lost as you. Don't even bother.

>> No.12587690

>>12585169
>an intelligentsia

But from the perspective of someone born into a hum-drum upper-middle-class situation who’s doing a comparative literature degree at an Ivy League, I think you’re largely right. The richest kids I know still do have a sense that they ought to like classic authors and classical music, but it’s extremely superficial—a lifestyle, as you put it. And I can confirm that, even among people getting their PhDs in Classics here, about half of them still have a childish high school attitude, bragging about how they translated a passage while watching Stranger Things or whatever stupid shit. That said, I don’t really know anything about politics, but I have yet to see any compelling evidence for an organized élite, and that’s nothing new. Burke complained that the élite of his day had no consolidating power. And, as much as I romanticize the more traditional humanist ethos, I think it’s fair to say that most of the boys who attended Eton back in the day were also idiots. But the rate of return in the form of great poets and scholars may indeed have been higher.

>> No.12587706

>>12587659
some dude claims that there is a secret library for the super powerful here: >>12585997

then some users figure out he's posted the library images here before under the name "rapture" >>12587346

someone found a twitter user that posted all his wordpress posts, up to and including the glowworm library post >>12587303

the glowworm library wordpress used to be another blog, found at this cache >>12587526

the person behind all this then deletes his old twitter

here were his twitter followers and name (supposedly) >>12587384

someone found another thread by the guy "rapture" that fits in with the bio of one of his only twitter followers >>12587646

people connect the dots and realize it's a hoax, and the guy takes down the glowworm library site he posted here

enjoy it before this thread is taken down

>> No.12587708

>>12587690
>And I can confirm that, even among people getting their PhDs in Classics here, about half of them still have a childish high school attitude, bragging about how they translated a passage while watching Stranger Things or whatever stupid shit
This is depressing.

>> No.12587725

>>12587706
Nothing we should care about, then?

>> No.12587728

>>12587708
ivy league grad students are the most pleb basic bitch people you'll ever meet anon

>> No.12587739

>>12587646
>>12587706
bonus: W B S Pennington, the fake twitter name, is a reference to Pennington Wild Bird Seed (WBS). The user @cupofkafka who followed W B S Pennington claims to be an amateur birder in his bio. it's a match then, they are the same person

another fact i missed: the user rapture posted direct links to the catalineconspiracycom blog that now redirects to glowworm library

>> No.12587747

>>12587708
It really is man. Even my younger teachers in the humanities just seem really narrow and without a serious interest in literature. I do wonder if it’s just my conservative tastes though. But also among undergraduates, there are like three people I really get along with, because they are the only ones I’ve met who to me fit the bill of a serious lover of literature. I realize maybe this sort of humble-brag blog post thing is also part of the problem, but I know first-hand that the places most people regard as “élite” are not all that cool. I have had a couple really exceptional (older) professors though.

>> No.12587768

>>12587747
Another ivy anon here. The old white male boomer professors are based, but our generation will likely be unable to replicate such originality and insight of the greats of past when even the best among us have never truly endured the rigor necessary to produce genius, like those did in the past.

>> No.12587775
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i am the owner of the glowworm blog. i was just informed about this board via email. i have read through the posts and this has clearly gotten out of hand.

let me clarify: i used to post on this board years ago under the tagline "rapture." i haven't posted in almost 2 years; whoever has been posting my information or pictures has in fact been LARPing. i would ask them to now cease entirely.

to make it abundantly clear: i am no washington power broker; i am no illuminati; i am no furtive "financial elite." i used to post on this board for fun and had no idea its been kept up behind the scenes. it's obviously time for that all to end.

i have brought down my blog and do not endorse the circulation of my images or likeness. i would really appreciate it if this whole thread were deleted.

>> No.12587779

>>12587706
You’re forgetting one or two things.

The owner of the library is a guy named rapture. A Cornell grad - seemingly smart - but at the end of the day a nobody.

Back in ealry December someone used raptures pictures to claim that they are a PR strategist and hedge fund manager in Washington that is extremely powerful and has garnered this insane level of power from reading 120 pages a day etc etc

In this thread someone claimed they worked for a congressmen and had heard about how glowworm.org was an underground library for the elite from his boss.

Now there is one discrepancy. I’m not sure that raptures library is the same as the library that was posted on glowworm and was used previously by a poster to claim they are a hedge fund manager and run campaigns in Washington. Thread can be found here: >>/lit/thread/12174177

If you want to figure out what’s going on read the thread I posted. Go to glowworm.blog and compare pictures. Reread this thread. You will be caught up.

>> No.12587784

>>12587706
Should anons start e-mailing the Georgetown faculty how there is a dangerous among their ranks LARPing on a mongolian knit-weaving neonazi forum?

>> No.12587786

>>12587747
So you study the Classics at an Ivy League? Anything else interesting (and less frustrating maybe?) that you would share? Any differentiated methods or approaches to the texts? Would you say your literary/philosophical education would be drastically different or even worse without the Ivy League education you're receiving?

>> No.12587793

>>12586104
where's the anecdote?

>> No.12587799

>>12587775
>anon e-mails himself after his pathetic LARP gets out of hand

>> No.12587807

>>12587799

whatever you'd like to believe as long as this ends now.

>> No.12587853

>>12587786
Idk why that anon isn't saying the elite isn't organized. Finals clubs, eating clubs, secret societies exist for a reason at these universities. Sure, many of the people involved in these organizations aren't remarkable for anything other than the family they were born in - but they are definitely organized and keep themselves away from upper middle class scum and the hoi polloi

>> No.12587873

>>12587779
>I’m not sure that raptures library is the same as the library that was posted on glowworm
it is the same one. not only that, but rapture posted direct links to his blog which was catalineconspiracycom at the time, which now directs to glowworm (or did, before it went private)

>>12587775
you immediately deleted the twitter that was associated with the glowworm blog, you were clearly lurking in this thread long before your real info came up. that email was at 10:55, yet the twitter was deleted between 10:01 and 10:08, almost immediately after it was posted here >>12587303

stop lying!

>> No.12587874

>>12587768
I’m not so pessimistic. Plenty of the profs I like didn’t realize they were interested in books until they were teenagers or whatever. You don’t have to be Harold Bloom to be good. And I think that there are advantages to the modern system of education (and even if perceiving the world); how to harness them in the service of art is another question that maybe someone else has already answered and has yet to become famous.

>>12587786
Well, I’m doing comparative literature. As part of that I’m doing classics (mostly Greek), but I’m also trying to do English and Sanskrit. Would love to finally become fluent in German too. As for the impact it’s had, I should say I’m still a freshman, so it’s hard to say. If nothing else, I’ve learned how to read quickly and still enjoy and get something out of what I’m reading, though I’m still by nature a very slow reader. I mean I’m sure that most other universities are worse at least in some respects, but that just goes to show how bad they are. I would not say that my way of thinking has improved, except by virtue of having more literature fresh in my head at any one time. I certainly haven’t benefited from any secret knowledge.

>> No.12587886

Someone just end this thread already

>> No.12587888

>>12587874
Learned to read quickly due to necessity ?

>> No.12587889

>>12587873

im not sure why you think i care what you believe: i only care that the OP take down this thread.

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There's an archived reading lists page from glowworm.blog for what it's worth

https://web.archive.org/web/20190124202307/https://glowworm.blog/reading-lists/

>> No.12587896

>>12587889
Damage is done. Begin damage control now if you really are who you say you are deletion won’t help.

>> No.12587905

>>12587895

jesus christ, i OWN the fucking blog, what exactly do you want???

where is OP or some MODS? is this board just fucking asleep 24/7?

>> No.12587908

>>12587905
We wanted book recommendations

>> No.12587915

>>12587443
are we just not going to address whatever the fuck is going on here

>> No.12587918

>>12587889
Hey man, OP here. I am sorry for the unintended worries this may have caused you, but I am not able to remove the thread, I am constantly trying.

>> No.12587924

>>12587896

what damage, exactly? i run a personal consulting service in DC--im not associated with any academic institution at all. i disavowal whoever has been posting previously. i'm happy to answer real questions--but it's this kind of bullshit that had me stop posting here years back.

you know what's ironic? if one of you all look far enough back, i opened up my ENTIRE library to this board--offered to scan in whatever you all wanted so it would freely circulate. i received so much flak for that project i left this place entirely.

now that i need to return to resolve this bullshit is tiring. i truly hate the internet--it's why i dont have facebook, instagram, etc. i'll tell you: you can never live down the past.

>> No.12587926

>>12587888
Yeah. But the approaches to literature are certainly unexceptional. It’s either likely to be a more traditional analysis of a text that basically rehashes what famous critics of the past have said about it (which isn’t bad) or an analysis strictly from the point of view of a current fad in criticism (which is worse). It’s unlikely that the professor will have a truly brilliant insight of their own, even if they’re really good. I prefer lectures to seminars because, even though the students are more intelligent than the average person, they are still pretty dull in discussing a great piece of literature.

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>>12587924
looks like the HOAXER has become the HOAXEE

>> No.12587947

>>12587939

...and that's why you cant have:

>>12587908

>> No.12587949

Will you retards shut up

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>>12587939
Ladies and gentlemen....

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this thread reminds me of old /x/... i miss when everything wasn't so shit, bros

>> No.12587972

Goodnight frens

>> No.12587986

>>12587950
>>12587939
>>12587896

whatever. now that i know it's just a bunch of morons on an old /lit board i honestly don't give a shit--ima put my website back up and resume.

but to whoever is archiving this bullshit: if anyone posts from GLOWWORM.BLOG, if any picture or likeness or performance is associated with GLOWWORM.BLOG, don't trust it. it is not sanctioned by the site's owner. again, i endorse no use of my photos beyond their intended one, which is for members of my academic service. that it's a public website serves a number of functions, and i especially invite anyone, if you do visit, to peruse the external links section.

other than that, it is NOT rapture posting; it is NOT from the actual glowworm. i will make my presence, if i ever do come back to this hell hole, abundantly and evidently clear.

>> No.12588022

>>12587986
i know you think that you have some conspiratorial window into the real mechanisms of things, that your prejudices are somehow truer to reality, that i am blind, or politically naive, etc. in reality you most likely are poorly educated and suffer from the dunning-kreuger effect, or some other form of cognitive dissonance.

defending the basic civility of an arbitrary demographic doesn't make me a "faggot," it just makes me a fundamentally decent human being concerned with the well-being of my society. the fact that you have to sublimate that into something else speaks volumes to the poison of your soul.

let me make it clear: attitudes like yours are hopelessly exploitable, despite what you might think. i'm paid to exploit people like you--and i do it well, do you know why? because you make it terrifyingly, shockingly easy.

>> No.12588070

where are the freaking mods

>> No.12588071

>>12587533
the dropbox account name from the links there is William Pennington

>> No.12588073

>>12587038
Did anyone who read this understand my clarification? I'd like feedback if possible.

>> No.12588100

>>12587908
100% based

>> No.12588121

>>12588071

that is my name. i'm not sure what you're trying to prove at this point--that i am who i say i am? that i am not who i say i am? what is your pointlessness now driving at?

>> No.12588141

>>12588121
Your name is sexually arousing.

>> No.12588151

>>12588121
>>12588141 is correct

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12588167

nothing funnier than one of the most pretentious tripfags on this site trying to create a fake conspiracy and having it be completely dead on arrival, holy shit lmfao

>> No.12588217

>>12588071
pen name based on an old speaker of the house, not the real name

>> No.12588225

>>12588167

yep yep, this is exactly the type of ignorance that made me leave a while ago. thanks for so quickly reminding me.

ima monitor this thread until it dies, since the mods are customarily useless.

again, for reference: do not trust anything that comes from glowworm.blog. it's my website and i, while i used to post here and have a good time, i haven't in a while and absolutely do not want to be associated with this place anymore.

believe what you will, it matters not to me--just stop indulging whoever is LARPing.

>> No.12588237

>>12588217

sure. go with that.

>> No.12588345

>>12588073
Anybody, please?

>> No.12588362

>>12588237
exactly what a professor of american studies would use as their pen name

>> No.12588381

>>12588362

you're truly an idiot. i'm literally telling you my real name over the internet, especially since the mods are useless and i'd rather no one innocent get caught in such useless and pitiful crossfire, and you're even questioning that. i don't even mind giving my real name--i have an established practice and i am my own boss.

man, this world is incredible. the incredulity that flows through this space is so fascinating.

seriously, for the archives: do not buy whatever posts associated with glowworm.blog.

>> No.12588442

>>12585169
are there any books where i can see where you're coming from?

no shit the USA coerces developing nations to accept the dollar as their god, we have 12 banks that can create another Auschwitz and still be too big to fail, and college is daycare for the most part but your sociology seems a little half-baked

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but really what do the elites read?

>> No.12588565

lmao this thread

>> No.12588603

>>12585208
Depending on your marketing your could attract a crowd of new age hippies and maybe even a few intelligent readers.

But remember most people have little idea of even what science actually is, how would they understand a deeper criticism of science let alone adopt it ?

Basically people don't care science or not. And there are thousand of books by people pretend to know "the truth", it's very hard to stand out. The science has the advantage of beng maintained by thousands of relatively competent people, what will a single book written by a random anon do ?

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Yo rapture, even if you are a big LARPer, you have a very nice library based on the pictures. I will be using it as another reference for my own reading in politics. Even if you haven't read them all, i know from matches with my own reading on various subjects that you've done you have a discerning eye.

>> No.12588643

>>12588628

thanks, broski. see, you i like, and used to post for. what subjects are you interested in?

>> No.12588651

>>12588628
>>12588643

i do actually run exactly the service i suggest on the website, so if you do have a request for a particular reading list, i can hook you up.

despite whatever LARPers on here/skeptics might say, i do have access to some heavy, politically-oriented "eldritch"-type knowledge that i will happily, happily share with the right kind-of thinker.

>> No.12588701

>>12588643
At the moment I'm interested in the creation, perpetuation, and hegemony of ideologies--their sociological and philosophical undercurrents, as well as their fundamental construction, that is, what, at its core, an ideology is and how they are shaped by and shape society. Beyond this i'm interested in the genesis of popular revolutions, the differences between popular and non-popular governmental structures, the role of public opinion in government (both popular and non-popular), the shaping and genesis of public opinion, the impact of emotion on political decision-making, the purpose and use of symbols and ritual in politics and societal organization (kind of political theology, but more fundamental), crowd psychology and rioting (and the impact that has on the political process), Political theory and philosophy generally, ect. It's still early days yet for me, but i have a rough idea where to go. All's likely that my somewhat capricious nature will have me chasing different currents in a few months/ a year.

>> No.12588745

>>12588701

jesus christ man pair that down; i deal in pretty specific reading lists--you basically want to know everything about government. i commend your thirst, though--what, for starters, are you most interested in pursuing SPECIFICALLY?

>> No.12588756

>>12588701
>>12588745

to put it another way, the people who come to me usually frame things like this: "i want to give a lecture on topic X" or "i want to win congressional district X in kentucky" or "i want to run a campaign in san francisco"

be specific in your desired outcome/activity and i'll help link you to the knowledge that will ensure the success of that task

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>>12588745
Oh i'm not really looking for recommendations right now, i have a long reading list to work through already. I'm sure the pictures of your library will be all the help i need when i arrive at a specific topic, so a belated thanks for that thread.

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>>12588798
>>12588798

to help get you started with your general task, friend--here's some photos that you might like.

>>12588467
>>12587908

here is a taste of what the elite actually consume

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>>12588822

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>>12588829

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>>12588833

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>>12588856

these are all from my most requested reading lists: at this point, pretty much a roundabout of some variation of populism, trumpism, charisma-politics and illusion. it's gotten pretty boring DESU.

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>>12588863

wtf is "desu"
i fucking typed "DESU"
the fuck did 4chan correct it to "desu" for?
jesus christ i hate this board

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>>12588868
HOLY SHIT

i keep typing T B H as in "to be honest" and it keeps fucking coming up "DESU"

does this happen to anyone else?

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>>12588876

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>>12588882

>> No.12588923

>>12588022
What's your job?

>> No.12588930

>>12588022
based

>> No.12588936

>>12588022
Nice pasta. It was from a week ago no ?

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>>12588798

my last requested reading list, which im working on now and is the kind i wont post on the blog, is on "sacral power," specifically ancient forms. here's a selection of what i'm compiling as we speak.

im out for tonight. good luck on your quest.

>> No.12588943

Jewish people control America through the political media.

>> No.12588948

>>12588876
Yes, it's the standard since moot handed over 4chan to a jap. I was as surprised as you want I found out. You get used to it, but otherwise use t.b.h or some other variation.

Nice book collection, Taine is a surprising gem here. I suppose you're mostly dealing with the specific of political campaign-waging ?

>> No.12589020

>>12584878
I wouldn’t say it’s more frightening but this is mostly true. There will be elites will lots of influence but they don’t uniformally agree on everything, take any devisie issue in the last few years (Brexit, Trump, etc). There were some trying to influence it one way and others the other way, I’d also argue that these are examples of how they don’t have absolute control as many as suggesting since they went against the curve.

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Thanks mate, i suppose the trump and populism are the spirit of the times at the moment so they're bound to be what people wan't to read about.

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Thanks for these pics; awesome collection. The overarching theme seems to be power.

If you check this thread again I’d love to see your books on business history

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I went to an Ivy League school, and I will say that doing any humanities at an Ivy is kind of a joke, and there is usually maybe 1-3 people per class making intelligent contributions to discussions. STEM classes are a completely different matter, and I think most people at these schools are some combination of quite intelligent and very hard working/focused.

Source is me double majoring in English and computer science.

Also I will say that as a non American that it’s very obvious that the culture of the school is clearly built around/catered towards rich kids that went to prep school on the east coast

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