/lit/ - Literature

first for sanderfag a hack

>quarter of the way through the month
>no monthly reading

>>12534119
>was very sick for a few days
>gets called lazy

>>12545373
At least you aren't too lazy to come up with excuses.

TIME TO VOTE!

Nominees:

The Iron Dream,
by Norman Spinrad. ~250 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/633177.The_Iron_Dream

The Demolished Man,
by our guy Alfred Bester. ~250 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/76740.The_Demolished_Man

The Fifth Head of Cerberus,
by our guy Gene Wolfe. ~250 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/845501.The_Fifth_Head_of_Cerberus

Stories of Your Life and Others,
by Ted Chiang
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223380.Stories_of_Your_Life_and_Others

Vote here: https://www.strawpoll.me/17377553

I disqualified two nominees, Stormbringer for being the sixth installation in a series and Radix for being to long (feel free to nominate it again next month however). Reply to this post and call me a retard if you disagree.

>>12545317
>tfw no android gf

Any books with pic related as charecters?

>>12545433
Yep, by H.G. Wells, can't think of the exact title right now, though.

>>12545317
>post scifi with qt android gf

>>12545392
i should have nominate a novel first then make a new thread
fug

>>12545456
NieR: Automata

>>12545373
>our general slave is a kpop fan
It all makes sense now. They want to emulate their kpop idols by also being slaves to their betters, and used for their services without being thanked.

>>12545540
>used for their services

>>12545540
>used for their services
i never spent any money for this shit

Currently close to finishing pic related. Will continue with the trilogy. Any recommendations for other fantasy books that have political machinations, scheming, the whole Machiavellian game in them?

Reminder that these books are great and everyone should at least give the first one a try

>>12545608
Joe Abercrombie is pretty much the best at what he does. Just keep reading his stuff.

>>12536347

>>12545428
the chinks are way ahead of us.
https://www.instagram.com/reallysexycyborg/

>>12545832
>cyborg
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the chinks actually bought a real girl off her parents and turned her into a half-mechanic abomination for instagram shekels.

>>12545843
niomi wu, the girl from the link is kinda weird. shes a phd engineer but dresses like a bimbo and is heavily into body modification. she once turned her implants into lamps that changed color.
i cant decide between having a boner, being creeped off or impressed because she clearly knows her shit.

>>12545392
I'm just gonna go ahead and buy Fifth Head. It's between that and the one with Hitler on the cover, and I'll probably actually read Fifth Head either way.

>>12545548
You are used for labor.
Also. Thanks to you I had a dream where I chose a qt Korean milf over her daughter.

>>12545608
The long price quartet for political fantasy
The coin and dagger series for economic fantasy

>>12545811
Noice

>>12545832
1. That's probably a tranny or ladyboy
2. I hate breast implants on hungry skeletons

>Variant spirits are like the result of inbreeding: the possibility of retardation is very big, but there is also the possibility of producing an exceptional sage.
What?

>>12545832
That's the twat what kicked up all sorts of drama over not being taken seriously and getting invited to raspberrypi events or something.

>>12545608
Masters of Rome

>>12546384
It's alright, you can stop.

>>12545928
not a labor if you enjoy doing it

>>12546271
she forgot to fuck the right person

>>12546384
Are you this much of an annoying cunt irl or do you never leave your basement?

Are the Warhammer books any good ?
If yes , what are your recommendations ?

>>12546427
>>12546448
quisquis es, ignoscas; in nullam lumina partem
gurgite ab hoc flexi studioque operatus inhaesi

>>12547040
It varies wildly. For Warhammer 40k your best bet is anything by Dan Abnett. For Warhammer Fantasy, well, the classics are Gotrek and Felix for well-written pulpy fun, and maybe Genevieve Undead for a slightly more thoughtful take.

>>12545392
>Reply to this post and call me a retard if you disagree.
Retard. Stormbringer might be the sixth chronologically, and is recommended to be read as such, but it's one of the earliest Elric novels to be released and it's sheer madness kino.

>>12545392
Go Hitler, go!

You forgot the number of pages on the last book

So /sffg/, I was thinking of writing a Cyberpunk Novel with two P.O.V. one on the side of the Corporation/Government and the other on the Rebel group. The Novel is in first person present. The problem I am having is whether or not to use third person Limited whenever they use robots. So I do it, or do I stick to first person to the very end.

>>12547783
>Cyberpunk Novel
Stop right there criminal scum

>>12547853
Cyberpunk needs a little love.

>>12545392
That's why I also recommended In Other Worlds. You don't need to have read Radix to understand it.

>>12545608
Malazan

>>12545847
It's definitely impressive, but it also kind of feels like a fetish thing. Probably unintentional though.

>>12548241
>Probably unintentional though.
She's definitely an exhibitionist if you look through her projects.

>>12548186
How is Malazan character-development wise? It's a big series to get into, so interested in how politics and characters play out there.

>>12548512
i'm only halfway through the series (beginning of the fifth book actually) and so far it's pretty good.

very bleak and depressing world though, not everybody's cup of tea

>>12548718
I'm gonna go for it then, likely after finishing First Law trilogy.

>>12545317

That's GYNOIDS, you pleb. the "Andr-" prefix root refers specifically to men (e.g. misandry, the hatred of men, polyandry, sexual relations of a woman with multiple men). When you say it that way you make it sound like a tranny robot.

>>12548736
>GYNOIDS
>A gynoid is anything that resembles or pertains to the female human form. Though the term android refers to robotic humanoids regardless of apparent gender, the Greek prefix "andr-" refers to man in the masculine gendered sense.

t. seething librarian

>>12548736
So basically what you're saying is that androids are GAY AND HAVE PENISES

>>12548826
>do androids dream of electric sheep
>its about a guy robot having a wet dream about those cyber sheep a few memory banks down the corridor

>>12545832
>mfw americlaps are so thirsty they will take a broom handle with silicone bags attached to it and worship it as the ultimate gf
sheesh. I always thought it was the Chinese and Indians that had the 1 girls to 30 men ratio. And here we have desperate Klapistanis looking to mate with anything as long as it gets enough work done to be seen as a female.

>Fostering Faust 2 is doing well. Most people seem to be enjoying it. Whew.
>Whew
... Why do I have a feeling that our resident cosmerefag is William D Arand, or at least William posts in this general.

>writer had thousands of people hitting his website for months wanting book because he doesn't deliver on time
>he wants to write anime loli girl in space
>no one wants to hear about it
>finally release book everyone wanted years later
>visits to website drops off
>no one wants the loli in space
its liek pottery

>>12548862
She is Chinese

>>12545317
>Android girls are cute edition
>>12545428
>>tfw no android gf
You guys didn't watch ex machina yet huh? Watch that before you dream about getting a qt android gf

>>12548952
And the guys lusting after her are americlaps.
Unless it's yellow fever and they would take any sub-par specimen to perform coitus with.

>>12548961
There's a big difference between qt android gf and rogue AI that needs to be put down.

>>12545847
>>12546271
>>12548241
>>12548295

yeah it basically seems like the ol' "local man man banned from event for repeatedly embarrassing everybody"

>>12548961
Ex Machina is fundamentally flaw. The robot wants freedom and knows everything (its literally google) yet its so dumb it attempts to integrate into the real world with absolutely no contacts with a real person. She is gonna be stopped in her tracks within 100 miles when she easily could have kept stringing along the guy for years and years.

That and it was shown the AI are incredibly fragile. A single piece of loose earth slipping her up could cause her leg to break off. There was 0 chance of her succeeding at anything and she should have known it. God that movie pissed me off

>>12548916
>finally release book everyone wanted years later
>visits to website drops off
That's because it was a terrible book.

You can tell he enjoys the space loli much more as it's much better written and obviously fun for him to write.

>>12548916
Because thrall was a fucking trash can tier book where nothing happened besides Aphrodite getting raped the entire book.

>>12545784
Oh I keep meaning to read these, had no idea there was a third out.

Anyone read this? My local shop has it and it struck me as odd because my shop never stocks weird fiction

Dumb question /sffg/. Any good books about interspecies romances? Not just Tolkien mind you.

>>12545327
Dude. Get a life or finally get published

>>12549050
Yeah I was perplexed at the ending.
>digital wonderland house
>expensive, likely start-of-the-art work
> e v e r y t h i n g is wireless or connected or tracking your hair follicle count

>robot lady just leaves
>quite literally, just leaves, following the death of the rich owner and that one dude getting locked inside

someone would've given that synth the big magnetic cock within 5 minutes

>>12549535
Define good

>>12549535
Define good

>>12549561
Not shit? Not poorly written prose and a romance that doesn't feel completely embarrassing to read? Hell, I'll probably look into even if it is trash.

Rec me some books about ninjas doing ninja stuff. Have already read the Tales of the Otori books.

>>12549582
It's your funeral. Most I've read are more tension than romance.
This one didn't make my brain leak out the ears. Not that I could prove anyway.

>>12549078
>>12549497
He keeps mentioning that loli space princess marine had more sales. But I think he is neglecting the thing that put him on the map.
Thrall was sub-par. He left out everything which made the previous books enjoyable. He even skipped describing how some things were made and just showed it. How the fuck did he get a working video and audio relay system?

>>12549697
Look at the number of reviews of loli marine vs black. Loli made a lot of fucking money. The equivalent of like two or three black books. Plus it isn’t smut so he can act more highbrow about it.

>>12545392
Why even put in other books if you're going to have Gene Wolfe in the poll? It's the only thing that will get chosen on this fucking board.

>>12549697
> I think he is neglecting the thing that put him on the map.
To a bunch of man childs who just want to read porn. If it wasn't for his patreons he'd never go back to that drivel.

>>12549535
Most self published has some catgirl shit. The good/bad dichotomy would be on your evaluation.

>new releases I had marked to read weren't on irc
>go to forums instead
>find most of them
>still can't find the one I actually want
>turns out the release date was misprinted where I read it and it doesn't come out until september

might actually run out of books to read at some point lads

>>12549711
>Plus it isn’t smut so he can act more highbrow about it.
I don't read black for smut though. I was kinda happy he started cutting down on the sex scenes from book two. They felt like they were just placed there. "Oh, we ran away from Lord Frosty chain-em-up, lets have sex with one hand missing".

>>12548862
This is some serious projection, Mohammed.

Who the fuck is loli space marine? Google gives me nothing, and this isn't the first time you guys mentioned it.

>>12549723
I want the porn to be cut out permanently.

>>12549765
Perilous Waif (Alice Long Book 1)

Smut author writes Alita in Space and it's half decent.

>>12549765

>>12549762
>Mohammed
>If you don't like prepubescent looking boys with breast implants you are a Muslim

What're SFFG views on Deconstruction novels?

>>12549648
Does she fuck the dragon

>>12545392
Yo who recommended Iron Dream? I praised that in here months ago but nobody in the thread had read spinrad.

>>12549796
They get married *eyebrows*

>>12549776
>Alita
>google says its some movie coming out next week
Hi /tv/. What cunnies did you snagg today?

>>12549775
It's a harem litrpg-lite smut series that just happened to have some good engineering. It wouldn't exist without the porn.

I'm sure /lit/ can recommend some books that concentrate on just the latter. If you want some actual /sffg/ with loads of great engineering then read most of K.J.Parkers trilogies.

>>12549813
It's /a/ actually. Showing your ignorance there anon. Gunnm (Battle Angel Alita) is one of the all time best mangas and deserves to be on any /sffg/ must-read list.

>>12549833
You can't have expected someone who reads books to have read Japanese cartoons. Now can you? I lurk in /lit/ and not /a/ for a reason.

>>12549817
Magical engineering? Black was the first to introduce me to that.

>>12549856
He only used magic because the normal tools didn't exist - it was just a McGuffin. Everything else was still standard engineering and basic science.

>>12549522
Same, a interview with the author came up when I was trying to find a old interview with Tsumou Nihei a while back and it sounded fairly interesting.

>>12549892
>>12549522
A lot of modern Weird fiction greats have sung its praises. It's on my shelf but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I'd take the gamble if you're into Weird.

bros, I've got this intense, deep-seated envy for those writers out there who discover a fundamental narrative with lasting relevance and become legends because of it.

>Mary Shelly on man's attempts to replicate god's work.
>Lovecraft on the cosmic irrelevance of the human experience
>Carlo Collodi (author of pinocchio) on the desire of an imitator to feel real.
>Roald Dahl on the tendency of children to imagine fantastic origins for the things they cherish
>Rowling on the universal desire to find the magic hidden in the world and in ourselves, and then use it to un-poop your pants

>>12545392
can you not add meme arrows to the urls so i can just triple click and open them? i ihave to specifically highlight everything but the arrows.

>>12545327
ur mum

>>12549746
>might actually run out of books to read at some point lads

m8 i have 3 years worth of books on my to-read list, at a rate of 1/week. i can't stop adding shit.

>>12549988
The torment of phone posters is an addictive nectar.

when will the reading be chosen? ie how obsessively should i refresh this thread

>>12550146
>not using auto refresh
fucking plebs i swear

What’s a good book or series I can immerse myself in for a while? Open to any sci-fi or fantasy that’s not LOTR, ASOIAF, Rothfuss, or Sanderson.

>>12550338
Malazan will keep you busy for a good while

>>12545317

Has anyone read it? Is it any good?

>>12550354
roadside picnic was a monthly read a few months back

>>12550354
yes its good, read it
>>12550338
we're about to read fifth head of cerberus for the month, jump in. then read book of the new sun and youll have read wolfe's best work and you can shit talk all you want

>>12550338
Banks' Culture books are quite good for immersing oneself. especially the ones that feature everyday life more heavily.

>>12549871
I want engineering that uses magic to solve shortcomings. Black opened my eyes to it and now I love it.

>>12549535
Strange Relations by Philip Jose Farmer I think

>>12550146
If you don't have 4chanX/AppchanX/whatever other extension installed you should probably kill yourself.

Why do fantasy books have badass hardcore females that swear and fight like roided up barbarians? It's so cringy.

>>12549988
What browser are you using faggot

Why do fantasy books have badass hardcore males that swear and fight like roided up barbarians? It's so cringy.

bros i have read this book so many times. i cant find another like it and i dont want to read it again. I just finished The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and it was good. Philip K Dick makes me feel sick and dirty inside like usual, but now I want something like anathem. any recommendations?

>>12550485
What’s wrong anon? Afraid of strong independent womyn characters in your fantasy settings? Are they invading your safe space?

>>12550485
>>12550488
>why does fantasy have fantasies

Roided up hardcore """"BADASS"""" shit is retarded and an instant drop

>>12550485
>he wants a 30's woman in a floor length dress that averts her eyes from everyone
Go to Japan

>>12550501
You don't read in the first place so it is no loss.

>>12550515
I do read in the first place.

>>12550485
>not liking women that can kick your ass
Faggot

I just finished Iron Gold.

One of you fuckers had to have read this series.

>>12550797
Couldn't get passed through the Communist Propaganda.

>>12550800
And they said /lit/ was the smartest board.

>>12550485
because looking like retarded big eyes mutant children with 50,000,000 demon angel pussy vaginas sirusuki puki tuki cat fox katana spirits somehow isn't cringey...

>>12549789
Go project your pedophilia somewhere else, Achmed.

>>12548961
>You guys didn't watch ex machina yet huh?
I did. I've posted about tfw no android gf on /tv/ also.

>>12550505
>woman in a floor length dress that averts her eyes from everyone
fuck yeah that's the good shy girl shit
even better if she has freckles and glasses and only accepts gothic and dying-earth scifi books as gifts in her romance questline

>>12549716
The Iron Dream or The Demolished Man could still win, Fifth Heads lead is not that big. But it is a little unfortunate that big names almost always take the win in the poll.

>>12549802
I did. Might have been of your recommendation as I've had it on my to read list for a couple of months. I'll probably read it regardless of what win monthly reading as I've already read Fifth Head of Cerberus.

>>12550354
>>12550357
And the general consensus was that it's really good.

>>12550372
If you don't read Wizard Knight and Sorcerer's House you should stop posting here

>>12545784
ok, sold, if i can get it for me kindle

>TFW I want to write a YA Post-apocalyptic Cyberpunk Dystopia.
>The Twist is that instead of being Generic YA with Main character siding with the rebels. The Main Characters sides with the "Evil" Government.

Should I do it?

>>12551170
zzz, whats unique to your setting or chars, besides the boring 180 twist, anon?

>>12551170
My favourite trope.

Just finished Children of Dune. That got kind of weird at the end there. Then started God Emperor and it was weird from the first fucking moment.

Why did Messiah suck so hard by the way? It felt like it existed purely to set up Children. Nothing fucking happens in the book, it's all just laying plot points that Children actually uses.

Whats some good weird fiction? Please no Gaimanshit.

>>12551201
Pratchett, tho they used to be close pals (wrote good omens, which has a rather nice rep here, havent read it myself yet) lotsa books to choose from, too, try some Watch titles

>>12550505
No, it's just silly to see some woman beat big units in a swordfight without any magical assistance. It's just GAY

Is Scott Lynch the most incel fantasy author in existence?

>>12551404
Is that hack Wolfe dead yet? If yes, then yes Scott Lynch might just might be.

>>12551404
Is that hack Wolfe dead yet? If yes, then yes Scott Lynch just might be.

>>12551404
He's not autistic enough

>>12551570

didnt his book get postponed for like 2 years because of anxiety? thats pretty autistic

>>12551404
>who is GRRM

>>12551633
None of GRRM's books have a character as cringy as Sabetha.

>>12551570
>latest book delayed countless times because of his mortgage
>writes his ex wife into the plot and derails it completely

>>12551404
>who is Robert Jordan

>>12550491

What did you like about it? I wish I could find more books like it but haven’t been able to so far. It’s fairly dense though and covers lots of different areas for a single book. You might be able to get some recs if you list the parts of Anathem that you hope to find more of.

>>12550797
>Iron Gold
You should have stopped with the original trilogy. Iron gold shits the bed.

Anyone read DjangoWexler's new book? Some ship of smoke and steel?
It's a girl protagonist (just like thousand names) but I feel it's YA.

>>12551201
The Vorrh

>>12551404
>most incel
It's fucking obviously Vox Day or one of his friends lol

Hell lynch's whole problem is that he was in a relationship

>>12552520
Seconding this

>>12545608
If you can stomach Abercrombie, anything else you read will seem outstanding.

>>12550338
Masters of Rome

>>12552745

>>12552447
Lesbian pirate loli who has super speshul magic

I think I’ll pass on that one desu

>>12552804
Snail anon btfo

>>12548862
>Klapistanis
the fuck is that word cunt. youre the only person in the world to use it.

>>12553370
Newfag

>>12553370
As a Klapistani yourself I don't see how you don't know the ways of your people.
Look, a cinema movie just finished, aren't you suppose to be doing something.

>>12549535
>interspecies romances
CJ Cherryh writes a lot of those (Hestia e.g.) but all her "aliens" are really just slightly odd humans. She must be the most unimaginative science fiction writer ever.

>>12549746
>might actually run out of books to read at some point lads
LOL
--->>>>/t/805598

>>12550338
>good book or series I can immerse myself in for a while
The Otherland (scifi) and the Shadowmarch (fantasy) series by Tad williams

>>12553753
Get a load of this chump.

>>12550338
I really like Imager by Modesitt, it's a long series but it's split into a bunch of trilogies set hundreds of years apart from each other with new characters in all of them.

So you get cop-mage for the first 3 then diplomat mage for the next 3 (and then something else iirc) so it isn't too formulaic

If you really want a long ass series you could also read his other series Recluce which has 18 books exploring the world

>>12553847
Wow, with one fell stroke of cold razor logic you have convinced me I was wrong all along

So the comic Crossed is edgy bullshit but I like the premise of a disease that destroys all inhibitions and entices you to act our your most primal desires. Are there any novels that have a similar premise/type of disease?

>>12554008
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I can't recall ever having overt torture fantasies. I mean, I have fantasized about killing certain people, but these killings are justified (at least in my mind) because I truly believe these people are a detriment to society as a whole, but I wouldn't torture anyone.

I'm hoping that torture fantasies are rare...
T-They're rare r-right anon?

>>12553370
>plane lands safely

>>12554008
Naked Lunch

Which of the Halo books are worth reading?

I've read Contact Harvest (decent), Cole Protocol (bad), Fall of Reach (very good) and The Flood (terrible). I've got the rest of Eric Nylunds books which I plan to read as I replay the games, but what about the rest? There's a ton of books, are any of them actually worth reading.

>>12554088
All of the new ones are bad

>>12554088
Ghosts of Onyx is the best. Should have been the story of Halo 4 not whatever shit they pulled

>>12553370
Fuck off newfag

Is there any real high brow or philosophical fantasy? I would count Tolkien and maybe the Earthsea series but I've already read them and I'm looking for something new. I'm not a big fan of Gene Wolfe because I think his writing is intentionally obscure for the sake of being obscure and doesn't serve a higher purpose.

>>12554361
Wheel of Time

>>12554361
>high brow or philosophical fantasy

>>12554361
Lord Dunsany

>>12554007
Good, glad we understand each other :3

>>12554361
Boy, am I glad you asked!

>>12554468
What philosophical conundrums are engaged with therein?

>>12552253
Really? I disagree with that entirely. It's hard to continue a finished story, and I felt that he's done that. More to the point, I think each of the narrators have really grown.

Cassius isn't dead. Hail reaper. Victra is best girl.

I'm new to sci-fi but looking to make a start. What are the best books the genre has to offer?

>>12554468
post a link to the pdf of masters of rome and I will read it, hurry up nigger.

>>12545843
Her electrical engineer boyfriend (American I think, at any rate some white guy) does the building shit part and writes English copy. She's basically the marketing department of their little firm and handles the Chinese language stuff. I bet the sex is great too.

In a sane world this would be a reasonably positive example of human relationships but we don't live in that world, so we get YES 女王 SLAY in between overweight gweilo roasties bitching about her public image not empowering women enough.

>>12554607
There's charts in the OP. Pick a book that looks interesting and ask specifically if you want more info.

>>12554361
>philosophical fantasy
Bakker lmao

>>12554539
Whether or not your cousin is hot enough to justify the retarded kids

>>12554371
I don't know man, I looked it up on Goodreads and I see a lot of females and .jpegs in the review section. It usually means the book is shit.

>>12554657
It's a meme answer.

POLL'S CLOSED

We're already a week into the month, we've had a high amount of votes and Cerberus have a quite convincing lead of more than 10% so we might as well start reading (press F to pay respects to Bester and Hitler). Make sure to read all 3 stories, not only the title one. And get ready for some post-colonialism.

>>12545392

>>12545608
>>12545799
As an utter Abercombie noob, where should I start if political fantasy is my jam, and ideally, where should I finish?

why are the most famous fantasy stories all so simple conceptually

is there no room for complication in the cultural Zeitgeist

>>12550338
Malazan

>>12554883
Read GGK instead.

>>12554915
"Perfection is attained not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to remove."

>>12554883
First Law trilogy by Abercrombie. The Blade Itself is the first book. I wouldn't class his books as political fantasy though. It's mostly grimdark, but has some political elements.

>>12554607
Look at the charts

>>12554607
You can't go wrong with any of the classics. Search for 'SF Masterworks' and find something that looks interesting.

>>12554915
What are these simple famous fantasy stories you talk of?

>>12554996
Thanks, anon, will give it a whirl.
>>12555007
Fair enough, thought it was heavier on the politics by what the other anons described, but will still give it a go and see whether it suits me. Thanks!

>>12554587
I was so mad I got a cyberpunk novel with YA over and undertones as a sequel.

>>12554616
But she is a literal twig with silicone bags attached. Why are americlaps so obsessed with underage looking females?

>>12554867
>actually uses the th correctly, and doesn't use rd or nd
Good good.

>>12555004
Is that a Confucius quote?

>tfw greatly enjoyed Good Intentions by Elliott Kay but got a bit uncomfortable when Succubus was still interested in fucking men even after some progress in their relationship
>all that redemption shit
>she still wants to fuck other guys and actually tries to convince Alex to let her fuck other guys when he asks if that is her intention behind encouraging him to fuck other women
>she apparently actually fucks a man later on

Wow, I feel so cuckolded right now, I don't think I can keep reading. No, I wasn't happy when she was going to fuck only women, either.

I really hope this is the only western fantasy haremshit novel series that is more about "polyamory" than harem.

>>12555585
I told you fags to stopped at Good Intentions.

Wall of Text coming:
All You Zombies
The (sort of) Dark Mage
Sunset(Nightlord #1) (stop at this book)
Fimbulwinter
All Systems Red (The Murderbot Diaries #1)
Ancient Ruins (Ancient Dreams #1) (read this only)
The Big Over Easy by Jasper Fforde
Treason by Orson Scott Card
Tunnel in the Sky by Robert A. Heinlein
Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven
Fevre Dream by George R.R. Martin
The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis
Legend by David Gemmell
The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson
Girl Parts by John M. Cusick
Rivers of London by Ben Aaronovitch
Good Intentions by Elliott Kay (read this one only)
Something More Than Night by Ian Tregillis
The Trysmoon Saga by Brian K. Fuller
Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell
The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins
Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
The Time Machine by H.G. Wells
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke
The Iron Dragon's Daughter by Michael Swanwick
The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers
Metro 2033
Out of the Dark by David Weber
Johannes Cabal the Necromancer
Johannes Cabal by Jonathan L. Howard
Hull Zero Three by Greg Bear
Rough Magick by Kenny Soward (rare book based on gnomes)

These are 3.5-4.5 stars and one 5 star. Mileage may vary. Enjoy

>>12555585
If you want a chaste Succubus try the Waldo Rabbit series.

>>12555683
>If you want a chaste Succubus
Doesn't that defeat the point though?

>>12554607
Masters of Rome.

>>12555579
Is it that common to mix those up?

>>12555673
>I told you fags to stopped at Good Intentions.
I should have listened.

>These are 3.5-4.5 stars and one 5 star. Mileage may vary. Enjoy
Thank you, Anon. I appreciate that.

>>12555683
>If you want a chaste Succubus try the Waldo Rabbit series.
I wasn't really looking for a chaste succubus but after everything that happens in the novel, both in Alex' past lives and with the whole redemption and true love angle, I really hoping it wouldn't go there. You'd think that an immortal demon who just learned of love would be happy with just the man she loves instead of wanting to spend time apart from him so she find other men (or women actually but whatever)..

>>12555720
He knows what I'ma talking about.

>>12554607
A Fire Upon the Deep, Ender's Game, any Culture book, Julian May

>>12555744
It’s pretty realistic, imo. Despite every sign that she should be happy in the relationship she can’t stop fucking other men. The weird part is that a succubus was used to portray normal women.

>>12555564
I guess? It wasn't all that different from the others, at least to me. The best one promises to be even better with Darrow back to form.

>>12556265
I guess so. The real lesson of the novels seems to be that you should definitely not be a "nice guy" since even if your niceness literally redeems a demon's soul, she will still cuck you.

>>12556265
>It’s pretty realistic, imo
I'm leaning this way. Unless Kay's just majorly into cuckoldry, that was probably about as easy to write as it is to read.

>>12556367
I think it's either genuine cuckold fetishism (under the guise of being sexually liberated, not-hypocritical and fair to women etc.) or he is trying to subvert/parody nice guy harem anime protagonists.

>>12548916
>>12549078
>>12549697
>>12549497
He fucked up big time. To all you aspiring baristas- I mean authors. Make sure your story is at a maximum 3 books or less. The first is the beginning, the second the journey and the third the resolution.
Brown fucked up because he wrote the story with no endings (he literally ends all the books on cliffhangers). When I originally read extermination I thought everything was going to wrap up at the end, but he added more things. Now he can't write for shit. The last book took 4-5 years to come out... and what does he do? Add more shit and end on a cliffhanger.

I like William Arand's work ethics. Everything wraps up in a trilogy. You don't have a story stretched so thin it bursts in the middle.
I'm sure his super soldier space princess will suffer from that too. He will write until he is bored and the story is so dispersed that he can never finish it.

>>12556349
After iron gold I dropped the author. I see he has nothing more to offer. He can take his chad ass and fuck the ya thot crowd.

>tfw mind screwed myself by overdosing on cyberpunk
>again
Last year I swore I wouldn't do this again, but here I've fucking gone and done it again.

Well, fuck it. I am done with feeling shitty and full of despair. Done with this fucking navel gazing bullshit that has little impact on my actual life.

Actually, just fuck sci-fi in general.

>>12556567
Is that waspfu?
bbbbbbbzzzzzzzzz

>>12556539
What

>>12545608
Game of thornes

>>12556900
The author is a chad thundercock. A natural born pussy destroyer.

I just bought a Kobo Forma.

>>12557137
Looks like a male version of the art hoe, basically a light brad, weak 6.5/10, not Chad in the least.

>>12557171
bad choice.

>>12557244
Why? The Oasis is small.

>>12557248
nook, amazon and kobo are meme brands with shit devices. get a boox or sony reader.

>>12557289
I really like the design of the Oasis and Forma tho.

>>12557299
thats alright then anon. just keep in mind objectively its a bad choice in terms of devices. if you are happy with that though its completely fine.

>>12557137
I meant more about why that Anon dropped the series. I rather liked Iron Gold...

>>12557315
Which exact device would you recommend and why?

>>12557326
the boox max2 or the sony PRS-900BC if you do not mind a bit more expensive devices.
for cheaper ones id suggest the cheaper boox note plus, the likebook mars or anything from inkbook.eu. seriously inkbooks ar great bang for your buck deal.

>>12557317
More power to you then. I read too many books, and I already see the way the iron gold series is shaping up.

>>12557414
>boom max2

way too big

>that sony one

way too small

i want to read some ethnic cleansing

>>12557448
read anything written in the 80s or 90s containing holy crusades.

>>12557431
>kobo
Just right

>>12557455
Yeah, the Forma looks perfect. I'll let you guys know how it is once it arrives.

>>12557431
>reddit spacing
fucking kys

>>12557501
Being this mad in current year.

reading the liveship traders series. After the kingdom of copper it's kind of hard for me to give a shit about these characters. Wintrow is the only POV character I feel any sympathy for and frankly I just want someone to smash Malta's face in with a claw hammer already

someone please point me to a story with characters I give a shit about

>>12557505
wanting people like you to die is not mad, it's common sense

are there any series with fights on the same scale as Worm's Endbringer Fights?

I'm talking single creatures taking on hundreds or thousands of characters on the same level as the MC and killing them in droves.

>>12557659
Check out /a/ and /v/, sounds like they'd be right up your alley.

>>12555707
Based

>>12557448
Masters of Rome

Can anyone recommend any good literature with this bad boy in it?

>tfw on Kindle #2, been using it for a year to year and a half now
>Kindle #1 lasted around 6-7 years
>one of the best items I have ever purchased
Feels good man, staying away from diamond dozen e-reader brands

>>12557659
Look up the Bolo series by Keith Laumer and other authors.

>>12557225
Post true Chad, then.

does loli space marine have any sex in it? i dont want my loli fucking around other people

>>12558581
shes basically björk

>>12558581
It's his non-smut book. At worst there is some light cuddling.

>>12554867
started reading Cerberus, can I just say fuck these authors that don't use chapter breaks. book itself seems just ok 30 pages in.

>>12550485
It's penis envy.

>>12557540
>reading Hobb
>an assassin who doesn't assassinate people
You brought this on yourself. I will not recommend anything because you will ignore it to read another reddite favourite. Enjoy your misery.

>>12558175

>>12558178
>Diamond Dozen
>How autists say "dime a dozen"
This makes sense now. It explains a lot if there are literal autism in these generals. It shows why they obsess over a certain few books, and blatantly, vehemently ignore anything else. Even when they never gave it a try.

Leftists have ruined entire genres of fiction for me. I can't pick up a modern fantasy or science fiction book without assuming it's filled with obnoxious political messaging. Females are stronger than men, gays should be worshiped, abortion is healthy, healthcare should be universal, and on and on and on. All of their opinions are the same and it's boring.

>>12559296

>>12559318
>every post i dont agree with is from /pol/

>>12559318
If I label it as being from /pol/ I can internally justify a blanket dismissal. Problem solved. Now I don't have to think.

Old Man's War is a shit. I cannot stand Scalzi's voice and Mr. Perry is insufferable.

>>12559325
I went on pol last night (i was googling a quote and it lead me there). Everything you mentioned in your quote they were talking about. So yes, every post you make and forget that you are on lit, is from pol.

>>12559356
I once saw /pol/ talking about Dostoevsky therefore anyone who talks about Dostoevsky is from /pol/.

>>12559356
thats not me and man you sound retarded

>>12559296
Would you mind naming a couple of the books that have triggered you? I'm mainly interested in books about how abortions are healthy and worshiping gays.

>>12557137
That's clearly Jesse Pinkman with nice hair.

>>12559372
I'm talking about the underlying beliefs of the authors which manifest themselves in sometimes subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways. An author who worships gays might have a character which is explicitly gay even though it doesn't serve any purpose to the narrative and he'll be portrayed as unnaturally good and moral. This sort of thing is very common and there's now actually a sub genre on Goodreads called 'LGBT fantasy" but those are for the not so subtle authors.

>>12559368
You are a pol sympathizer. It doesn't matter. You should be keelhauled with your brethren.

>>12545608

That book was very enjoyable until the sassy nigger girl came along.

>>12559411
>slandering based west's sister
Kys

>>12559411
Is that real? I was thinking about starting that series today but now I don't know.

>>12559407
Jfc, most autistic post of the day goes to you, chaponigger. Take your fucking medicine, you sound like you're fifteen.

Thoughts on this one?

Just finished it 5min ago and I found it quite depressing.
Also I am not a scifi regular

>>12559419
>oh noes. A non white person is in a book
>i better not read it
Yes. Avoid all Abercrombie works. As a matter of fact, don't read any book at all.

>>12550485

Its fucking horrid, most of the time.
Strong female characters are omnipresent in fantasy but often theyre botched.

>>12559437
Forgive me for being tired of experiencing the same exact characters over and over again.

>>12559423
How old does the pollies who complain sound like? If you haven't been on 4chen long enough to see pol buzzword crying out for people to rally with them, then I can't help you. That post was designed to bring the crazies out.

>>12559396
I understand where you're coming from but this is hardly something new for SF&F. Both genres have always been prone to political and social speculation, and obviously often indirectly dealing with current matters, and the attempts have not always been exactly literary. Our guy Robert Heinlein is a perfect example of this, you don't have to be an libertarian to enjoy The Moon is a Harsh Mistress but you have to have quite a specific set of believes to enjoy the shit he try to stuff your face with in some of his later books. For example I doubt you'd enjoy Farnham's Freehold. So while I agree that there's many books where the preaching is simply to much you should probably tune down your knee-jerk reaction to opinions you don't share.

>>12559447
Yea. Because reading about theAnglo-Saxon farmboy for the thousandth time is totally different.

>>12559454
I'm glad people like you exist because at some level most of the left realizes how crazy they are so they minimize their outright broadcasting

>>12559437
>>12559419

She is so blaK and sees all the normal people as "pinkskins" and this stays in her voculaburary until ur sick of it.
She is supersassy and smashes and kills everyone, eventhough its just a slutty blak girl. Really bad attitude.

I didnt mind the old black wiseman but the little nigress ruined it for me.
Wanted to buy second part but decided against.

Shame, as i liked the party character development of the barbarian guys. It was quite amicable.

>>12559459
>Farnham's Freehold
>written 1964
>A decadent but technologically advanced African culture keeps either uneducated or castrated whites as slaves
Holy shit we have invented nothing

>>12559459
It's not even the political messaging in itself that bothers me, it's the one sided nature of it which offends me. If you look at any popular fantasy or sci-fi award every single author will be a leftist and some of them are activists when they're not writing. It's as if you have to conform to a particulars set of beliefs in order to be published and the product is so bland. I've seen their stories too many times.

>>12559471
Are you implying that i'm a "broadcasting left". There are literally millions of books. If you don't like something don't read it. That pollie willingly reading books with the things he despised, then coming here to cry about it just seems retarded and stupid. Therefore he is trying to ignite a pol conversation. When you see pol out of their containment biohazard sphere, you shut them down.
>sticking rod into your own bike spokes then blaming someone else when you fall.jpeg

>>12559472
Wait... I thought you were talking about West's sister. Who is standing by based Gloktha.
The gril who says pinkskins is Asian.

>>12559504
I don't think he's crying about leftist message fiction, but merely trying to discuss the state of literature on a literature forum and for some reason that really offends you. Instead of engaging or ignoring the conversation you act like a nut.

>>12559476
You invented rape and pillaging. I thank you for that.

>>12559520

Shes asian? Oh my bad. Still didnt like her. Sassy and violent. West sister also bit anonying and the romance arc was meh.

But glokhta and the barbarian angle are really good so im split on that book. Hows the later parts?

>>12559494
>any popular fantasy or sci-fi award
There. You solved your own conundrum. Pol is only popular with pol. Outside in the real world the normies will vote on real popular people who try to build an impeccable image. You can't expect to win a popularity vote when no one likes you.

>>12559494
Popular sci-fi and fantasy awards have always been one sided as fuck. Just like Jemisin is currently winning a Hugo every year Heinlein were on full cruise control back in the 60s. The most popular author will win most of the time because the awards are inbreed as fuck.

>>12559534
She annoyed me too.
>Foocking pinks
Everyone has to have something that distinguishes them from the other characters.
>pinks, gotta piss, capital,don't want to fight no more, etc

>>12559545
At least half of the country identifies as conservative. I'm not asking for Nazi roleplaying novels, but anything other than the progressive status quo. You couldn't possibly believe that the Hugo awards represent the population in terms of politics.

>>12559523
I'm sorry. His master race aura probably blinded me.

>>12559564
stop replying to that guy

>>12559564
Does your half of the "redpill" Klapistanis read? No? Then the ones who actually read will determine your faith. All I see your pillbuddies obsess over is a wife to carry on their "blloodline". They don't read for entertainment. Since according to them "reading is degenerate and only women do it".

>>12559569
>he knows how we work
>SHUT IT DOWN!

post stuff so we can leave this shitty thread

>>12559584

Blatant generalization.

Everyone reads.
Liberals just have a higher chance ending up in publishing editing and othrr literary professions and hence force through their mad views.

Moet fantasty agents have "please give me lgbt, poc, minority writers/protagonists"

>>12559616

>>12559616
Surprisingly untriggering chart. If you only had not placed Dune and Elric in shit.

>>12545608
This entire series is basically powered by political machinations. Sure, there's a battle or two here and there, and the occasional quest, but the central story is about usurping power from a shitty depraved Prince and preparing the new generation to take over once he dies. All while their neighbours not-India keep trying to take over the world. I would normally recommend this with the proviso that Fallon is a bit of a basic writer, but if you enjoyed Abercrombie this shit will feel like Gene Wolfe.

>>12545317
That screwdriver is too big. All of the screw holes are smaller than the tip of the screwdriver.

>>12559548
Yeah it's annoying. I think the left is doing themselves a disservice by monopolizing publishing the way they do because as far as I know the only publisher who regularly puts out non progressive or rightwing fantasy and sci-fi is Castalia House. I despise Vox Day but I'm forced to go to that extreme in order to fulfill a need and consequently his politics could be influencing me without my realizing it. The left could be turning me into an extremist.

>>12559624
thats not me, some anon posted it a few months back

David Gemmel is underrated fantasy. Surprised no one knows him here.
Not the best but its good fun.

>>12559631
>>politics could be influencing me without my realizing it. The left could be turning me into an extremist.

>sit down to read some comfy sci-fi
>hah in the future wealth is distributed evenly, isn't that neat?
>wait what's happening
>why am I outside?
>we need to seize that telephone exchange?
>comrade Lenin is back in the city?
>down with the bourgeois!

>>12559645
I don't see why you're mocking it because it's completely reasonable to assume our media consumption can influence our beliefs, sometimes in very subtle ways. The entire advertising industry operates on this assumption.

>>12559619
All that Redditch spacing

>>12559657
>>12559657
>>12559657

>>12559651
>>12559631
Just like visiting pol can influence you.
Read what you want and make up your own mind. If you are easily influenced by media then it's too late for you and you already have your puppet genes activated.

>>12559631
You should not put as much weight on the opinions presented in works of fiction. I've read and enjoyed countless books by Le Guin without turning into a leftist anarchist.

>>12559641
Newfag. Stop making assumptions and either read the fucking thread or lurk until you are acclimatized. >>12555673

kek, there's nothing like some political bitching to get a thread going

>>12559698
Pol always ruins what they touch.

>>12559534
I just skipped her parts lol

>>12557137
He's good looking but not in the Chad way.

You need to groom yourself better anon.

>>12560734
Is this a read chad?

>>12559683
chapo
nigger