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When did you realise that reading, on its own, has no intellectual worth and only active engagement through the combination of reading, writing critically, and conversation (or any quick feedback) (learning from mentors, discussing with peers, teaching to others) can lead to a worthwhile humanities education?

Me, after I read many history books and forgot almost everything except a vague outline.

>> No.12539922

>>12539909
Nigger

>> No.12539924

>>12539909
When I realized I couldn't read all the books in a single library. So what does this mean exactly? It's possibly to memorize all books with time?

>> No.12539927

... obviously

>> No.12539978

>>12539909
>you have to pay attention to what you're reading
Very insightful.

>> No.12540000

I realized this pretty quickly but i'm too lazy to take notes and do rereadings. Also, you should only do this with important works. There's no way you'll be able to read, reread, and write about every random book you read. It's only the top of the top that deserves this kind of attention.

>> No.12540004

>>12539909
People that read too much are greedy for knowledge. Be humble that you don't know shit.

>> No.12540005

>>12540004
What am I supposed to take from this

>> No.12540007

I read and then use it on a debate on some random discord. Problem solved.

>> No.12540010

>>12540007
Where to find these discords?

>> No.12540022

Idk I always surprise myself with how much I actually remember when the topic or book actually comes up in some natural circumstance. The subconcious is a weird thing.

>> No.12540027

I'm building my own personal TiddlyWiki with the stuff I read from books, so I can focus the information that is strictly valuable to myself.

The conversation part is quite useless when you realize that the people worth talking to are in no way accessible to you except through books that they have written. No point discussing things with brick walls.

>> No.12540044

>>12540007
>>12540010
Please give us the direction to good literary/philosophy discords. The only thing i can find there is discord trannies. There must be quality places, right?

>> No.12540065

>>12540010
You find "Portal" discord servers, id est, a server that categorizes and gathers server's links:

https://discord.gg/pxpGkE

I especially advise you to check Calliopean Club, POLITICS and Destiny's discord [https://discord.gg/6uaj7b]. have fun debating

>> No.12540071

>>12540065
[I mostly use the Calliopean Club discord; people there are usually smart despite the exceptional brainlet that doesn't understand basic epistemology]

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12541111

I read books for fun and to learn more about myself and other people. It's also an untedious way to expand my vocabulary and understanding of prose. My uni essays constantly improve the more I read, and even without a formal book discussion I can feel literature informing how I talk about every subject. That said, OP is right, having someone to talk to about your reading will drastically increase the impact of the work. I wish someone was willing to read Lolita with me :'(

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>>12539922
>>12540000
>>12540022
>>12540044
>>12541111
What's with all the gets holy shit

>> No.12541144

>>12541121
This thread is blessed by moot.

>>12539909
No replacement for long and drawn out meditations on what you read, and for thinking, on and off about them for years. A good book should stay within you after it's finished, and you should find yourself occainally wondering about even a month or a year after that.

>> No.12541161

>>12541144
It must be ^^

>> No.12542477

>>12539909
after a year or so off being a manga enthusiast hikkikomori and deciding that discussing literature and problems with people is really great

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>>12541121
???
>>12541144
>>12542477

>> No.12543855

the point is to use the knowledge you gain through active creation. this iw why specialization and vertical learning is shallow and pointless. combine literature with visual and time based medium, combine it with viology and obscure cartography. maths numerology and ancient assyrian. only bu hungrily consuming all information and forming connections between seemingly disparate knowledge will anything fruitful ever be found.

>> No.12543870

>>12543855
>>12542477
>>12541144
Dubs and trump loses in 2020

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>>12541144
>>12541121

>>12543855

Jesus fucking christ

>> No.12544105

>>12539922
Based

>> No.12544121

>>12543855
Speaking of numerology.

>> No.12544407

>>12543855
But how do you combine all of those if they're all so complex and deep that it would take multiple life times to complete such a task?

>> No.12544421

>intellectual worth
Good thing I read just cause I like it and don't feel the need to justify myself to some fucktards arbitrary definition of 'wroth'

>> No.12544752

>>12539909
>reading Wikipedia to kill time really does have zero worth.

Someone just turned 15! Congratulations anon, now you can read like a big kid! (＾∇＾)