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1252572 No.1252572 [Reply] [Original]

>Commenting on whether French was a diseased language or not:
>"French belongs to one of the two kinds of languages you can ever find - that of diseased languages. The other kind is that of dead languages.
(Alain Rey)

>> No.1252574

What's the nature of the disease?

Except of too many irregular verbs of course

>> No.1252576

>>1252574
People often complain about the language being less pure or people butchering it with new words or english words

>> No.1252586

>>1252576
What? If I know one language in the world which intentionally does it's hardest NOT to take up foreign words, it's French. THEY EVEN HAVE THEIR OWN WORD FOR DVD-PLAYER (lecteur de DVD or something like that)

German or Japanese on the other hand have English words all over the fucking place.

>sumbitts stirbt
I SMELL A SHORT STORY

>> No.1252602

>>1252586
No one's forced to follow the Académie Française's official advice

Their french alternatives sound fucking stupid

>> No.1252628

>>1252586
And English in turn has mountains of suitably mangled French, German, Greek, Latin, and Spanish words. I fucking hate sanctimonious francophones.

>> No.1252631

>>1252628

English would be much easier if we hadn't borrowed so much and had created new words of our own

>> No.1252636

"Buckaroo," another name for cowboy, is very similar in pronunciation to the Spanish "vacero".

I just thought that was interesting.

>> No.1252641

>>1252631
Languages with totally regular grammar suck anyway.

>> No.1252646

>>1252636
Rodeo, hoosgow (don't hear that one much anymore), mesa, etc.

>> No.1252651

>>1252631
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglish

This is horrible

Imagine Shakespeare without latin word

>> No.1252654

>>1252651

Dude it would be so cool

We would have some sweet-ass ten-syllable words and I wouldn't be hyphenating sweet-ass and ten-syllable

>> No.1252666

Frenchfag here. I agree with >>1252602, >>1252586
I for one can't stand old pretentious fucks who invent, for the sake of some hypothetic and bullshity "purity" of the French language, a bunch of butchered and ugly "frenchy" words that nobody fucking uses, even in France. You will never see a French guy using "courriel" instead of e-mail, "gratuiciel" instead of freeware or "souriel" instead of smiley. Actually French people use English words like everyone else, and these made up words are just a futile attempt from these old pretentious fucks from the Académie Française to reverse this trend. It's failing miserably, though.

>> No.1252673

>>1252654
>>1252654
You wouldn't say syllabe since it's not a Germanic word.

>> No.1252675

>>1252673

Well duh

>> No.1252676
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1252676

>>1252675
>>1252654

Lol, English with only 30% of its words

>> No.1252681

>>1252676

The nice thing about Germanic languages and something which English has for the most part lost (at least compared to others) is the ability to form new words by stringing large chunks of separate morphemes together

>> No.1252687

>>1252681
For me as a German that's just a novelty thing - the overall word usually looses meaning after the third word.

Bureaucrats, though, these people..... they fucking love em.

>> No.1252849

>>1252666

First time I hear of "souriel", made me chuckled.

I agree with you, but at least I think I prefer France over Canada – Québec mostly – because LOL TRANSLATE EVERYTHING (I want to kill babies whenever I hear a french canadian film/series title).

>>1252631

I'll never understand people saying English is difficult. If I compare the two languages I've learned through school – german, then english, both for about 10 years, I'd say english is 10 times easier than german, mostly because 1) no fucking conjugation, 2) grammatical gender everywhere in german, 3) english is everywhere, I think a lot of teenagers are better at it because VIDYA GAEMS, etc.

Only my opinion, but after 10 years I'm able to read/see a film in english, while with 10 years in german I'm only able to say "Hello, the sun is shining"…

>> No.1252858

>>1252849
But English pronounciation is ridiculously retarded. There are like 5 different sounds for a single letter. How the fuck can you even pronounce words you don't know with your shitty spelling and pronounciation rules?

>> No.1252860

"English mugs other languages in darkened alleys and then roots around in their pockets for loose vocabulary."

The people who resist insertion of foreign words into their language the most is the Finns. If they get a new object from another culture they make up a word for it that sounds completely Finnish.

>> No.1252862

>>1252858
There are rules but they're all contextual. and usually we DO butcher pronunciation. Or we just vary them regionally. Wherever you're from there are probably dialects that differ quite a bit. No one calls you stupid for that, do they.

>> No.1252884

>>1252862
I think he means stuff like rough, cough, through, etc. They all send with the same four letters but those four letters are pronounced differently in every word.

>> No.1252886

>>1252884
End, not send. :\