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Egalitarianism is a religion. It is not based on scientific evidence, it is based on the faith based belief that all peoples are born with exactly the same genetic traits except for a few superficial ones

>all peoples are born with exactly the same genetic traits except for a few superficial ones

Which is a belief currently held by most geneticists.

I think you're forgetting all the great contribution black people have made to Western culture. For example

Um.

Nevermind.

>>1252247


source?

America will collapse under the banner of multiculturalism.

And I'll be laughing at you White Liberals as you're butchered on the streets from a safe apartment in Hong Kong or a pleasant retirement house in Iceland.

Kinda fitting in a way eh? You demonstrated earnestly for Mugabe and the ANC to take over Rhodesia and South Africa respectively, and you bear at least partial responsibility for the deaths of all those whites those regimes have killed and driven off their land.

Poetic justice in a way, a little piece of the third world in your own cosy suburban neighborhoods.

You deserve it.

I think you're forgetting all the great contributions black people have made to Western culture. For example

Um.

Nevermind.

>>1252241
>>1252223

gg lil bro

>>1252259
Fuck. Yo. Couch.

nigger

see, what you jacknobs are misunderstanding is this. not all people are equal. some persons (i.e. you) are stupider than other people. Some people, (i.e. not you) are stronger than others.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE SHOULD NOT TREAT EVERY PERSON WITH A BASELINE RESPECT, AT LEAST INITIALLY.


jacknobs.

as much as everyone tries to resist and deny their own racist behaviours, it still exists, and I for one, have become sick of overcompensating for this feeling.

cute copypasta

go back to >>>/new/

China's growth and the US's decline has shit all to do with race. Give all the American white people party and what would the Tea Party do? Bump us back to the fucking dark ages in pursuit of the mythical Christian nation.

It's about the totalitarian government, bro. The reason America doesn't make progress is because we spend years bickering and dickering and achieving and reneging for every single fucking thing while the Chinese just have to say "This is what we're gonna do. You don't like it? Tough shit!"

>>1252269
I know you are half trolling but . . .

your point it moot. You cant have liberal democratic government without (at least some notion of) equality between the citizens. And you cant have a first world standard of technological innovation and scientific understanding without liberal democratic government. Arguing for your kind of racial inequity is effectively arguing for a return to some kind of pre-1950s economy/society which would completely fulfill your inane xenophobic fantasy of being dominated by a tiny dicked chinese man

>>1252311
uh wtf are you talking about. i'm distinguishing between a misinterpretation of the word "equality", as in "all men are created equal" as in the fucking basis for america's diversity and what is actually meant. that all men should be treated as equal, whether or not they "are".

jacknob.

ITT: correlation is not causation

>>1252311
um no half about it
op is a fag


>>1252223

>The idea that diversity constitutes a strength (never substantiated of course), is an extremely new one.

>In the face of a mighty, homogeneous China, and a US that grows weaker and weaker the more diverse it gets, what exactly are anti-racists going to do?

>Wikipedia: The end of the Cold War and the dissolution of the Soviet Union left the United States as the sole superpower. The country accounts for 40% of global military spending and is a leading economic, political, and cultural force in the world.[11]

O yea dood diversity's worked out so poorly for america - you fucking retard.

you say america will fall under the banner of multiculturalism. you are a fucking faggot with an iq of 3. prove me wrong - show your statement to any sane human being and tell me how it's not a schizo non sequitir.

This of course, explains why crossbred mongrels tend to be healthier and live longer than their incestuous, purebred counterparts. Good job, OP.

>>1252331

There's more than enough diversity within races even if you define "white" so narrowly as to excluse Irishmen that hybrid vigor/Inbreeding depression are totally irrelevant

Humans have not been bred like dogs

>>1252321
how could either of those notions of equality lead to a collapse of the united states?

Globalization will undo the migration period's stratification of humanity, and then race will be a non-issue.

Don't worry, we'll still have creed, religion, class and gender to argue about.

>>1252339
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

I'M SAYING THE OP IS WRONG. THAT AMERICA'S MULTICULTURISM ISN'T BASED ON AN ARGUMENT FOR GENETIC SAMENESS, BUT EQUAL RESPECT FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS REGARDLESS OF RACE.

WHETHER OR NOT I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THE IDEA THAT RACES HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT TRAITS IS IRRELEVANT.


IRRELEVANT.


IRR-FUCKING-ELEVANT

>All the noble cultures of the past declined because the purity and vigor of the originally created race faded out. They were compromised by the seed of lesser races who were attracted to the works of the superior men. The undeniable reason for their decline was then due to a kind of racial blood poisoning. Racial blood must, then, be preserved in its purity at all costs.

>>1252335


You want humans to be bred like dogs?

Then I want a human wit a really big head and giant eyes and really tiny body that snuffles constantly and is colored like a panda. Actually, I'll take two.

>>1252354

>You want humans to be bred like dogs?

I stopped reading there I hope you don't mind

>>1252351

frische Geschichte, Bruder

>>1252356

No, I don't mind.
It seems to be the implication in all of this even though you kind of tried to state something to the contrary.

Now where's my big headed slobbery human?

>>1252223

But isn't there a higher calling for humans, to transcend the non-essential natural behavioural tendencies akin to what may be consider the lesser, or non-, intellectual species?

Are you suggesting that racial segregation is an essential aspect of human nature, in which our survival ultimately depends? That it is something we cannot transcend and rise above, and anything that seems to be the case otherwise is merely a delusional façade?

>>1252223

The US may lose economic power, but military is still #1. They also have more global connections and alliances. Last time I checked, every nation near China doesn't want them to grow, save for North Korea, which doesn't help western relations either.

Source:
http://www.ted.com/talks/joseph_nye_on_global_power_shifts.html

>>1252364
I'm not sure that overcoming those instincts requires us to do more than respect other cultures (as opposed to interbreeding with them). While racial segregation may not be essential to human life, there's no reason one should not have a preference for the culture from which they originate and wish to spend their time among people who share it. Miscegenation ultimately eradicates the diversity it sets out to produce.

>>1252398
You seem to believe that race and culture are so closely tied together that they are the same thing, or that at least they cannot be separated. A black person born and raised in a middle class suburb in North America is much more likely to have more in common with his countrymen of different races than African tribesmen.

>>1252398
You seem to believe that race and culture are so closely tied together that they are the same thing, or at least that they cannot be separated. A black person born and raised in a middle class suburb in North America is much more likely to have more in common with his countrymen of different races than with African tribesmen.

>>1252247
lol no
>>1252298
>China's growth and the US's decline has shit all to do with race.
lol liberals are so ignorant and blind.
>Give all the American white people party and what would the Tea Party do? Bump us back to the fucking dark ages in pursuit of the mythical Christian nation.
this is what liberals actually believe
>It's about the totalitarian government, bro.
clueless, so clueless
>>1252311
>You cant have liberal democratic government without (at least some notion of) equality between the citizens.
America is not, and never was intended to be, a democracy. Equality under the law is vastly different to enforced equal outcome which is what you leftist traitors want.

>>1252328
>O yea dood diversity's worked out so poorly for america
90% of all crime in our country is commited by non-whites. Most welfare goes to non-whites, blacks and mexicans vote entirely along racial lines.
When will liberals get a fucking clue? Or are you just another nigger/beaner supporting his own kind?

>>1252516
>lol liberals are so ignorant and blind
>this is what liberals actually believe
>clueless, so clueless

What's the point of starting a debate when you're so unwilling to respond with actual arguments?

>>1252364
This is the true belief behind all communist/leftist ideology, they believe that man is to "transcend" humanity and turn into some sort of magical superman where noone has to work or do anything or labor. No fights will occur and noone will want for anything.

Naturally it is a childish fucking fantasy world but that's liberalism for you. Liberalism is the REJECTION of reality.

>>1252483
I see "culture" as being something arising organically over a period of time from common heritage and ethos. Since our heritage is partly transmitted though our family environment, ethnicity is a part of this.

While you may be able to raise one child in isolation, the reality of immigration in the United States and Europe is not one of a few individuals which might be easily assimilated, but a vast influx. Such groups demand their own voice, which distorts the existing civilization.

>>1252522
It's not a debate when everything you say is fallacies and lies. Trying to argue gives the impression your views have some sort of merit, which is entirely false.

Everyone in this thread would benefit very much from reading this.

>>1252543
ok.

>>1252526

It is Idealism. Where human ideas succeed in determining our behaviour in place of natural instinct (they already do to a large extent, take memetically guided evolution). Communism, at least Marxism, rejects idealism in place of materialism. So I am afraid you are wrong for your comments contradict, if the previous statements are true, and I am quite certain they are: although Marxism developed from Hegelianism, it opposes the notion of dialectical idealsim, and upholds dialectical materialism.

>>1252398

Sure, that sounds reasonable. But what is the standard, or model, of respect that we are to uphold? What should I respect?

>>1252223

>>1252679
>What should I respect?
It's more a case of respecting the evolutionary value of the dialectic processes that exist between cultures than of respecting aspects of each per se.

Like an animal species, a society must have its place in the ecosystem; hubristic attempts at hegemony have always ended as spectacular disasters.

>>1252679
>>1252679
>What should I respect?
It's more a case of respecting the evolutionary value of the dialectic processes that exist between cultures than of respecting aspects of each per se.

Like an animal species, a society must have its place in the ecosystem; hubristic attempts at hegemony have always ended as spectacular disasters.

>>1252516
>>You cant have liberal democratic government without (at least some notion of) equality between the citizens.

>America is not, and never was intended to be, a democracy

You know good and well that "democratic" does not mean "direct democracy". Moreover:

>America was never intended to be a democracy

Is flatly wrong. No (reasonable) definition of democracy would not include the government of the united states, as intend, or in the form it is now.

>blahblah blah leftist traitors

If you aint running wit it run from it motherfucker

>>1252707
>hubristic attempts at hegemony have always ended as spectacular disasters.

You could go ahead and put it a little stronger

ALL ATTEMPTS AT CULTURAL AND RACIAL HOMOGENEITY HAVE LED TO FASCISM, TOTALITARIANISM AND AUTHORITARIANISM. ALL FASCIST, TOTALITARIAN AND AUTHORITARIAN REGIMES HAVE ENDED WITH INVASION BY THEIR ENEMIES, THE COLLAPSE OF THEIR ECONOMIES, OR VIOLENT REVOLUTIONS FROM WITHIN. THEY ARE DEAD END SOCIAL SYSTEMS, LARGELY EXTINCT AND IRRELEVANT. LIKE FAX MACHINES OR OVERHEAD PROJECTORS

>>1252717
As somebody already said, authoritarianism seems to be working quite well for China and Saudi Arabia.

But mostly I just feel nostalgic for overhead projectors now.

wow this is a terrible trolling thread

it's a shame because there's some interesting points, but frankly i can't be fucked to divorce them from people screaming about terrible leftist anti-racist traitors

~~~~***laters***~~~

>homogeneous China

>America will collapse under the banner of fiat globalism.

Fixed.

>homogeneous China

LOL THEY ALL YELLOW THEY ARE HOMOGENOUS

learn2china, you dumbfuck. That country is full of ethnic and regional tensions.

Besides that, as soon as you become an empire, including other ethnic groups is inevitable. Even the nazis had slavic members in the SS.