/lit/ - Literature

Replicability crisis

>>12522121
too much of a pussy to make this on >>>/sci/, huh?

lol. they literally look at philosophy the same way they do phrenology

>>12522125
Never really understood this until I studied nutritional science. Most of what people 'know' is shilling from a literal 'big sugar' that wants to keep feeding people shit. In reality, we're not even sure what carbohydrates do but we do know that refined sugar is literal drugs that behaves unlike anything in nature which is why its in your goddam McDonalds fries.

Nigger Nigger
Yes massah?
Eating chicken?
No massah
Telling lies?
No massah
Go pick cotton
Ah ah ah

>>12522121
The same way I deal with anyone telling me that philosophy is useless: congratulate them on being a sensible person who doesn't waste their time on empty sophistry.

Also, what does this have to do with literature?

>>12522121

you don't
life will just eventually sort this type of person out
Eventually everyone comes to an obstacle that no amount of knowledge or regurgitated facts can solve
This is also why stoicism never works in the end

>>12522121
Tell them you only study political philosophy and when your party takes over, you will cut out the tongue of every scientist who dares to speak against the sacred ethical doctrines that keep you from slaughtering the masses, raping entire cities, burning houses, bombing factories. Basically you just say, call me when the police are buttfucking you and you need a bro with Phd in the philosophy of law to rangle you up some loopholes.
Science is dead as far as I can tell, anyhow. There really only exist philosophers and technicians, as scientists can argue the use of philosophy without communication technology. If they give you too much problem, just insinuate that their perspective is caught between the fanaticism of rationality employed in the French revolution and the hubris of idealism that left so many in USSR unemployed and starving. Tell them science is magic without the spectacle but with all the pomp.

Von Braun, Schrödinger, Turing, Einstein, etc think it isn’t. I dont care, although a philosophy degree is pretty useless.

>>12522194
>this is also why stoicism never works in the end
why is that? do you mean that eventually everbody runs into the sort of problem that is beyond their level of ability and composure to deal with?

>>12522257
So to deal with it you’d have to act stoic, don’t get the comment.

>>12522246
>A nazi, an autist, a homosexual, and a jew think philosophy is useful
yeah... Not really convincing

>>12522121
I LOVE being asexual

>>12522285
There’s nothing wrong with being either of those things you incel

Like this

>>12522121
I agree with them.

call them bugmen

You ask them "why?" and, if they try to give you a well thought answer, they are engaging in Philosophy and refuting themselves.

>>12522121
They are experience cognitive dissonance. Questioning the validity of philosophy is philosophy.

>>12522652
>>12523383
This is why people call phincelophy posters stupid faggots. You guys aren't insightful. You're children.

>>12522121
Tell them thats a nice philosophy they have there and be done with it. Philosophy is inescapable.

>>12522121
Usually it is a STEMfag saying this, at which point showing them that science was derived from philosophy usually shuts them up.

I was going to ask them to what use science should be put, but this is actually a far better answer:
>>12522125

Do the Mutation in the Mind Shuffle.

>>12522121
ask them "useless for what"?
most of them can't answer.
others will say things like "progress"
then ask "progress towards what"?

whatever answer they gave deconstruct them with questions. They will contradict themselves or they get tired.

>>12523441
>Ask them "why?" and then they have to fall back onto some form of rationalism or epistemic virtue theory.

>>12522142
>We are not sure what carbohydrates do?
This is your brain solely on the humanities, folks. The problem is you took a joke nutrition course instead of a biochemistry/organic chem course. Look up Glycolysis, Krebs Cycle, Electron Transport Chain, Glycogenolysis, Gluconeogensis, etc - should take you 10 minutes at most to conceptually understand what carbohydrates do.
>We are not sure what carbohydrates do
I'm still in disbelief. And I agree with OP in the sense that there is a usefulness to philosophy (especially development of critical thinking, logic, etc) for scientific endeavors. However, I don't think I've ever read an opinion that made my blood boil more than yours, so congratulations if that was your intention.

>>12524217
>you don't get it, I'm being insufferable -on purpose-

>>12524244
>You don't get it, I'm being retarded -on purpose-
>You: "I JUST FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!"

>>12522295
Yeah, why can't us gay nazis hate jews and have our rad homoerotic bromance too?

>>12524269
I'm not a STEM major. In fact I was DUDE SPACE IS BIG posting in some shitty space fedora thread here a couple of days ago. You still have to go through life being the emabarrassing tryhard that you are. Reading philosophy is for people who were too literally retarded to think of such obvious concepts as adolescents, and you will never meet someone who doesn't resemble your pic related who cares about what you think.

>>12524269
>>>/pol/

>>12522257

Philosophy and science are very similar in the sense that it's all about following a strict set of rules and putting your faith in them trusting that they will solve all of life's problems and in that sense religion even falls into the same camp despite all of the arguments that seem to the contrary
Basically on just about any level people always have a very strong tendency to fall back onto whatever they've put their faith in
Of course what you eventually realize through all of this what is really happening is that most people are simply seeking out some kind of order or framework around which to build their lives and we see that faith is really just a tool for creating that
But that process of using faith to create order has a predictable side effect of also facilitating dependency
All of this is just to say that human beings are extremely dependent creatures
What we perceive as contradictions between these dependencies is little more than our own ego getting the better of us the arrogant thought that the dependencies of such a lowly creature of all things could ever stand against the vast complexities of our universe and not be dwarfed just the same

>>12522121
Nod, agree and make note he's a cool guy.

>>12522202
you are an insult to philosophy and anything you've read (which i doubt is much) has been completely lost on you. How embarrassing.

>>12522121
I don't bother telling them anything because I know they are miserable. They are so insecure about their intelligence that they are afraid to show interest in anything "soft" like philosophy or art. I run into these people all the time and they are exhausting.
T. Pre-medfag

>>12522121
'useless' is a philosophical value

>>12524303
it's more embarrassing to be practicing the very thing you claim is useless without even knowing it. you're really running on limited intellectual capacity in such a scenario. wherever there is language there will be philosophy

Not care, these types usually dont even understand the science they value and likely just appeal to authority

>>12522121
kek stay made humanities weenies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROe28Ma_tYM

>>12525115
philosophy in general isn't really about 'problem solving' in a practical sense. perhaps this misunderstanding of what actually constitutes philosophy as such is the reason it is so disregarded. if you (falsely... but here we get into philosophy again) set up philosophy and science to be two opposing sides of utilitarian problem solving then of course science comes out looking like the best option. but actually distinguishing between words and concepts as to not trick yourselves and others into making connections that shouldn't exist in the first place does not fall under the purview of science. otherwise we just get stupid ass meme graphs that are trying to prove something marginally related which is frustrating for everyone except trolls

>>12522121
Transcendentally

>>12525656
really makes me think

>>12522121
Most STEMfags also hate the science fandom. We are aware of the few limits of our craft and are not so hubristic as to denounce an entire college department to feel superior.
Dont even worry about it basically.