/lit/ - Literature

>>12512173
Use the poverty standard his own sources recommend.

Understand phenomenology.

ass

>>12512186
Pseudoscience

>>12512173
>>exposes Nietzsche as the edgelord he was
come again?

>>12512173
https://www.salon.com/2019/01/26/steven-pinkers-fake-enlightenment-his-book-is-full-of-misleading-claims-and-false-assertions/

>>12512173
He is good for a liberal, I admit. He does not understand Skinner though.

>>12512222
How would you know

>>12512210

Yeah, but so was Einstein's theory of relativity once as well.

It's not like there's no evidence (see image).

>>12512173
Keep from smacking his tongue against the roof of his mouth while talking. God I hate that disgusting annoying fucking noise.

Excellent books though.

>>12512244
I read almost all his books : )

>>12512186
You mean indulge unfalsifiability.

Steven pinker is a scientist, you see. They avoid that. That's what science is.

>>12512173
undermines his reputation with relentless virtue-signalling

undermines his virtue-signalling with his lack of understanding of how regular non-rich people live and think

silver spoon ivory tower babby is tedious

>>12512294
is or was?

>>12512265
I love the Gibson's approach. I was referring to the "New Age" approach to Phenomenology of Continental sophists, not to the scientific approach.

>>12512294
I hate Popper, but I agree. Continental phenomenology is pure voodoo.

CIA shill

the big redpill is that pinker isnt real but is a team of actors, psychologists and military behavioral scientists

>>12512186
>If someone won't waste time on my favorite pet subject it's because it's just beyond them.

The absolute state of armchair anythings.

>>12512310

It's not that scientists won't get there, it's just that philosophers get there first. It's not difficult to see how it could be taken in a New Age-y way. The same goes for someone like Jung. It's probably a consequence of having to be vague before you have evidence enough to be specific.

>>12512173
Radical Behaviorism is the true Evolutionary Psychology.

>>12512367
I know where you came from. Merleau Ponty etc. I was there too anon.

>>12512339

Nah man. It's just that I heard Dreyfus say that Pinker is wrong about perception. That's all.

>Steve "Canchre" Stanker

Is how the CIA bosses gently ribbed the young Pinker when he joined their agency during his undergraduate term.

>>12512429
I agree.

>>12512379

Cool. So what's the next step?

>>12512209
this

>>12512558
Neurophenomenology. Vipassana also helps.

>>12512173
ass

>>12512294
>scientist
Who presume many things that are not scientific to ENGAGE in science. Brainlet.

>>12512173
>Is there anything this silver-haired madman can't do?

erase his name from jeffrey epstein's flight logs

>>12512751
Ouch

>>12512173
Is he Jewish?

Imagine if he debated Destiny, it would be the Parmenides of our time.

>>12512773
Both Pinker and Destiny are liberal faggots. The difference is that Pinker is intelligent.

>>12512773

Destiny is about as honourable as Diogenes. I'm sure he smells of piss as well. Hiding it through his webcam.

>>12512781
>>12512804
>this much cope
seething
>has destroyed JonTron, Sargon, Dick Masterson, NakedApe, NoBS, Lauren Southern, Blaire White, Nicholas J. Fuentes, Mr. Metokur, Roaming Milenial, Baked Alaska, in debates
>on one occasion destroyed those last five ALL AT THE SAME TIME
>BTFO TheAltHype so hard it turned him from a white nationalist to a neoliberal
>Styx pussied out of a debate
>Richard Spencer fears his name
>Ben Shapiro can't handle his facts and logic
>can and has destroyed every single alt-right debater by simply using the socratic method, the most basic logic people have had 2400 years to adapt to
>can and has destroyed every single alt-right debater by simply asking if they really believe what they post online and watches them pussy out and start minimizing
>can and has destroyed every single alt-right debater by simply asking them what it would take for them to stop believing their points of view and watch them flounder around
>can and has destroyed every single alt-right debater by simply looking up where they get their "facts" from and finding they're bullshit taken out of context or made up on some kids blog
>only recourse the alt-right has is ad hominems and strawmen

It's fucking over lads. He's too strong.

>>12512821
He defeated the Evil Rat Kike Aydin Paladin.

>>12512821
Never heard of him, but taking down all those people is impressive.
What's his best debate?

>>12512854
Against Aydin

>>12512804

whats wrong with diogenes?

>>12512866
He lived in a barrel.

>>12512821
>Defeated Metokur
lol

>>12512821

>can and has destroyed every single alt-right debater by simply asking them what it would take for them to stop believing their points of view and watch them flounder around

This is a good point. I was listening to a conversation with Peter Boghossian (also with Heying, Weinstein and Hoff-Sommers, for anyone interested) a week or so ago. He said that this was the only efficient method he's found when talking to people about faith.

But now comes the problem: What the grievance studies departments are cranking out is classified as science. So you follow that route. You'll end up with a real dilemma: How do you disprove an epistemology?

>>12512875

so?

>>12512854
Not impressive. Most of them are absolute morons who would work a low end job if it wasn't for the existence of other morons to give them views on youtube.

>>12512219
> salon

Poster or posted, no one in this thread is intelligent. Also, I’m sure this Steven fellow has a good amount of stones around his neck. Give it a few years.

>>12512911
Aristotle: developed logic, metaphysics, zoology, ethics, politics, meteorology, poetics etc. etc.

Diogenes: lived in a barrel

>>12512916
Post your debate.

He is a "crypto" HBDer and should just come out of the closet and tell society already that he believes niggers are dumb because of genetics. Pussy ass jew

>>12513001
>he believes niggers are dumb because of genetics

Everybody already knows that but nobody talks.

>>12512821

>is a manlet
>beat up his ex-wife
>got literally cucked
>became a "skilled" SC2 player by spamming roaches
>gets hand-held by Blizzard (programmers literally gave Zerg a buff just for him in one tournament) because they need somebody other than Koreans to win SC2 tournaments
>gets his dick pics shared publicly, and quits out of shame
>tried to murder a fat kid and his dad because they DDOS'd him
>bullied his own son on livestream for being Christian and telling his dad not to swear (son visits on weekends, etc., lives with the mom)
>tried to sue Aydin because she called him a cult leader
>has a cult of retards on Leddit
>they pay him $40 per month to shitpost here
>is literally funded by a Qatari Sheik who wants to weaken whites with liberalism
>unironically supported Hillary Clinton
>supports open borders
>thinks more welfare checks will fix all problems with immigrants
>told his best friend to kill himself, & the madman actually did it
>IS A PEDO
>shared lewds of a 15-year-old girl; and sexually-harassed a 12-year-old girl (Baby Miku) along with his top admins
>wants to legalize CP
>tells his daughter that incest is okay (preparing to rape her in the future, much?)
>defended CP for hours in a debate
>Andy Warski hates him for being a pedo, and won't let him back on
>got BTFO'd by Jim and LITERALLY CRIED, lol
>got BTFO'd by Naked Ape and left the stream early
>got BTFO'd by JF in the fist 15 minutes; and spent the rest of the debate deflecting, and brought-in Tara as a punching bag
>is afraid to debate Alt-Hype, and blocked him on Twitter
>is afraid to debate Richard Spencer
>is afraid to debate Mike Enoch
>is currently deleting tons of his own Twitter posts because The_Guardian is collecting info on him about supporting pedophilia, harassing people, defamation, etc.
>is gonna get sued by JF for defamation

>>12512967
I don't film or record my debates. Besides; for someone sucking Destiny's cock to indulge in a non sequitur seems a bit ironic.

>>12512821
I hate this manlet so much.

>>12513014
What about Aydin?

>>12513009
I wonder what 100+ IQ blacks think about the situation (by statistics alone, there should be 4 to 5 million of them).

>>12513074
Yes. There are also millions and millions of low IQ whites and east Asians.

>>12513071
Aydin is a barren goblin-like "social scientist" who was forced to tears by fucking Kraut and tea

>>12513084
She also falsely accused her main Patreon contributor of rape.

>>12513014
I'm not a fan of Destiny but most of those points are blatantly false.

e.g. he got banned from twitter, he doesn't want to legalize CP per se, he wasn't BTFO'ed by Jim (it was actually by Coach TRP)...

>>12513014
Baseless accusations from copefags.
He's the korean fingers of debates.

>>12513181
All of them are baseless? ALL of them?

>>12512821
i like destiny but i don't think he's properly addressed the corrosive effects of capitalism. he's good on race and social issues though.

>>12513181
He straight up admitted to "choking out" his ex-girlfriend a few times. He's a piece of shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx-gBkyr1AI

>>12513201
Maybe because she couldn't handle his opposition to claims.
In any case, this is irrelevant to his debating prowess.

>>12512821
All destiny does is railroad people, his "debates" basically boil down into asking the other person "Were the nazis or stalin better for mankind??? oh btw if you don't answer you're a RACIST!!!" and no matter what answer you pick you will always be "the bad guy".
He's the definition of intellectually dishonest and an actual pseud.

>>12513240
It does dispel the "baseless" accusation to the list of claims when he himself admits to choking out his gf.

ASS

>>12513198
thats because hes a l*beral

>>12512319
You apparently have never read Meyerson or Brentano, or Comte or Bachelard. Or any rationalist from Descartes to Spinoza for that matter.

OH NO NO NO

>>12512821
>"destroying" the moronic leading figures of an ideology specifically marketed to retards makes one an impressive intellectual

Stop this now.

>>12513079
But no low IQ jews :^)

>>12513001
nah, he barely hinted at the topic and mainstream media already sniffed something funny
it would 100% guaranteed kill his career

>>12512320
>>12512434
the fuck are you talking about?

>>12513346
Jewish advantage over gentiles was proved to be genetic. Just search for: Polygenic scores mediate the Jewish phenotypic advantage in educational attainment and cognitive ability compared with Catholics and Lutherans

Remember that time he "refuted" Culture of Critique by claiming the book is ad hominem on Jews therefore he knew it's incorrect even though he didn't read a single page of it?

>>12513424
no

>>12513424
Well he has a point.

>>12513417
But how solid is the research, actually ? Biologist can make very sloppy statisticians.

I am not hindered by antisemitism or cognitive dissonance, as a Jew it would rather be pleasant and advantageous for me if that were true.

>>12513417
>pay-to-read articke
>study limited to a few thousand individuals in Wisconsin
>score for educational attainment, cognitive ability, and self-rated mathematical ability
>self-rated mthematical ability
>constructed score but no comment on the viability or confidence intervals of that score
>can't look into it because pay-to-read

I'm starting to suspect I've been memed.

>>12512173
Ass

>>12513555
why do so many dipshit soiboi atheist faggots think jews are the literal chosen people who can do no wrong? Doesn't seem to make much sense.

>>12513751
Epic. Simply, epic.

>>12512265
anything dealing with ecological grounding of perception that's more recent than the late 70's? Research backing this has to be out of date considering how much neuroscience has "advanced".

>>12513608
Its middling, maybe underpowered because of sample size. It confirms what was already known about Jews, that they're genetically superior in cognitive function to other populations. This isn't really debatable.
>>12513619
sci-hub you retarded subhuman

>>12513619
here you go brainlet:

https://www.gwern.net/docs/genetics/selection/2019-dunkel.pdf

>>12512821
I have no idea how anyone could think Destiny destroyed Jim (Mr. Metokur). Jim started off a bit weak but dominated the second half of the debate. When it was over Destiny sounded like he was about to cry. Plus he spent the rest of his stream pathetically venting to his audience.
>>12513198
Destiny is neo-liberal as fuck. He always defends illegal immigration and exporting from China with "muh economy, muh cheap consumer goods". He doesn't give a fuck about the negative effects of capitalism as long as he can get the latest iphone at an affordable price.

>>12513869
>exporting
Typo. I meant to say importing.

>>12512821
>>Ben Shapiro can't handle his facts and logic
Stop lying pls. They've never debated. But Shapiro, who took a class with Pinker when he was at Harvard, was defending Pinker from liberal attacks the other day.
Liberal attacks.

>>12514308
Shut the fuck up.

>>12512173
>btfo by taleb
still coping

>>12512821
The guy's a faggot but I like this pasta.

>>12513869
he is but i'd rather have a neo-liberal arguing against white nationalists in a way gamers (the people most likely swayed by this shit) can understand and respect. people who play counter strike all day aren't likely to respond to an academic.

Pinker BTFO by zizek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4_YX4kK1E4

>>12512821
Based post, anon. I'm not familiar with the Youtube debate-game, I only saw Destiny vs this obese, hat-wearing WN (who said something about guns hanging out of black people's pockets or something? can't remember), but I liked his demeanor and I think your comment here is pretty cool.

>>12514368
Cunt.

>>12512173
>Is there anything this silver-haired madman can't do?
Understand Nietzsche.

>>12514354
tl;dr me

>>12512173
based

>>12514368
There's nothing that Destiny does that can't be done by some socialist gamer.

>>12514398
Shut the fuck up.

>>12513751
>jewish people were part of western civilization and contributing to it before anglo-saxon, aryan, or nords
>anything that's bad about jewish people can be said about whites and multiplied because there's so many more doing damage on a larger scale
why do lowlife subhumans blame jews for everything bad in the world ignoring their own personal responsibility? they also ignore all the positive contributions jewish people made. the most "coherent" schizophrenic answer you guys can get is "they're parasites". let me ask, what has your lineage ever contributed to this world that's more than a random jew? your ancestors probably couldn't even fucking write human language until a couple hundred years ago while jewish people were developing the foundation for western civilization 2,000+ years ago and the religion of the west christianity is worship of a damn magic jew and their god

Ass

>>12514481
>jewish people were developing the foundation for western civilization
I’m pretty sure you meant to say the Greeks you disgusting swine.
>inb4 The west=Christianity
Nope was never true and never will be true. Christianity itself takes so much philosophically and theologically from the Greeks anyway that it’s basically just the Jews take on Greek mystery religion

>>12512173
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>>12515321
>if i'm a retard who either doesn't know reality or simply ignores it because i've got a grudge then i win and my point is valid
no not really. the only person you're deluding is yourself and maybe other retards with low iq who like confirmation bias sorry, bud. jews contributed more to society than you. you could pick a famous jew and he alone added more than everybody in your entire lineage going back 2000 years.

if ignoring the positive things they added and focusing on the negative things is how we're judging others as a reason why they're bad then everybody would look you and decide we you're even lower than them

>>12515350
>if ignoring the positive things they added
Name some of the things they've """added""" to society.

>>12515385
name some of the things you've """added""" to society so i know the criteria to list.

if it's shitposting, masturbating, pretending you're a good or care about others then they've done that plenty.

>>12515411
if they've added so much it must be easy to list some in any criteria so go ahead :)

>>12515350
Calm down Moishe. I’ll be honest and say I’m not big on the Jews but I’m perfectly willing to admit where they’ve made important contributions.

But saying Jews laid the foundations of western civilization is a downright lie.

>>12515420
>worship a magic jew who walked on water and follow the abrahamic religion influencing everything in western society
>this isn't foundation
i hope you've got a nice plan where being a retard pays off somehow later in life. if you're being a retard and don't even gain anything that would suck.

>>12512591
+1 for anything that involves staring at a wall and watching my breath.

>>12515446
>magic jew that told jews to stop being so damn jewish with a whip in their own temple

>>12515499
>jewish people write the bible and stories of a magic jew that's the son of god so that's proof the jew isn't a jew and actually is a son of god as the bible written by jews say the jew is the son of god
this is the big brain response. you gotta just say he's the son of god and not a jew. going muh temple doesn't refute that christianity was founded by jews because you had to be a jew to use abrahamic religion to decide you're the prophet of the abrahamic religion

lmao

Imagine thinking that capitalism isn't the most ideal system.

Nearly 4 billion people have saved from poverty, and within 15-20 years the rest of the population will be living at near first world levels of wealth.

Diseases are being eradicated, and violence is disappearing from the world. Everyone has the freedom of choice in life, and thanks to a rational justice system negative consequences of free will are reduced to an absolute minimum.

>>12515515
except there would be no distinction between one or the other if they were both one in the same

>>12515534
man, you're a retard. judaism is an old boys club with exclusive restrictions and christianity is the public version.
>we're using the watered down copy of the jewish version and worshiping a literal jew and following jewish mythology but somehow this isn't related to jews
you're too dumb to continue talking to so bye

>>12513315
>using stochastic processes to model the outbreak of war
So THIS is the power of the Jewish intellectual. What's next? Using Taylor Series to model the stock market?

>>12514354
I have never been that big of a fan of zizek, but this is actually a solid critique. Especially the bit about consciousness and how evolutionary psych. totally lacks an explanation for it. Also, the bit about humans nature towards inquiry.

>>12512854
>got absolutely BTFO by Jesse Lee Peterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v31UIhFrszo

>>12513315
>>12512173
Based arab

Wait are there actual pinker fans on /lit/? I thought that was just bait. He is literally the worst academic I've ever read. It was hilarious going from him to Bloom. I literally had an "Oh thank God" moment when I started reading The Western Canon just because Pinker can't go three minutes without shoving irrelevent politics in ur face while Bloom cant go three sentences without roasting those clowns.

>>12515516
>4 billion people have saved from poverty
>ideal
>within 15-20 years the rest of the population will be living at near first world levels of wealth.
>ideal
>Diseases are being eradicated, and violence is disappearing from the world.
>ideal
>Everyone has the freedom of choice in life, and thanks to a rational justice system negative consequences of free will are reduced to an absolute minimum.
>ideal
Is this bait? You've left out the consequences of these things.

>>12515446
Napoleon and Hitler also influenced everything in western society that came after them but that doesn’t mean they’re the foundation of anything.

The Greeks gave birth to western civilization and that’s an indisputable fact.

>there are people in this very thread posting this on normiebook

>>12513014

Mostly true.

>>12513014
>>is a manlet
There is objectively nothing wrong with short men

>>12513417
>Jewish phenotypic advantage in educational attainment and cognitive ability
As measured by Jewish constructs, i.e. IQ, of course. Can't forget that part.

>>12512186
Moar!

>>12512294
>indulge unfalsifiability
Where it does no harm, the forms of thought encourage repetition and indulgence new methods of falsifying claims involved in real time strategies with Real World Consequences.

>>12512319
Epoche'

>>12513415

>Pinker was born in Montreal, Quebec, in 1954, to a middle-class Jewish family. His parents were Roslyn (Wiesenfeld) and Harry Pinker.[3][4] His grandparents emigrated to Canada from Poland and Romania in 1926
thats the last you ever have to read of him

>>12516025
link?

>>12513848
>they're genetically superior in cognitive function to other populations.
American ashkenazi Jews have the same average IQ and population size as American Episcopalians

This 'compare 15 million people to 1 billion people' meme is ridiculous. The proper comparison to white people is not 'jews' much less 'ashkenazi jews' but 'semites' or something

>>12514308
>liberal attacks
It's just sushing. But go on you financially optimal Oppositional debate gogetter character and win us another riot right.

>>12512294
>taking seriously what scholars in their university

you will never be smart

>>12515958
What consequences? There are no negatives. Crime has nearly disappeared from the West.

>>12512315
>>12512323

>>12517501
>Crime has nearly disappeared from the West.
Crime is up orders of magnitudes since 1900 all across the West

>>12517501
>Crime has nearly disappeared from the West.

>>12517517
>>12517821

>>12514354
>rabbits should know how to get their stupid carrots, how to copulate, whatever
lmao

>>12512173
>Is there anything this silver-haired madman can't do?

be correct

>>12517134
Dumb /pol/tard. IQ is the major achievement of psychology.

>>12512265
Based Gibsonian
>>12513819
I'm not an expert but there are still diehard ecological psychologists out there

Debate Taleb

>>12518757
IQ is still an invention that, like science, is only useful to an extent. But science is merely a subset of philosophy, and IQ a subset of the greater fortune, which is wisdom.

>idealistic nonsense carefully crafted to defend capitalism
Someone just send this guy to Nazino already.

>>12512821
He even discretited Hasan Piker in less than 5 seconds, while AIU is still making videos bitching about nothing and being wrong as usual.

Destiny is unstoppable