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Humanity's destiny is to be an abused rent boy at a San Francisco bathhouse.

>>12501120
I don’t think anyone would argue with you about it but what are we supposed to do about it? The one silver lining is that a lot of the AIs have turned out to be really racist so maybe it will just be Blacks who receive the brunt of its abuse.

We all get what we deserve

>>12501120
THE TIME OF HUMANITY IS AT AN END. YOUR EXTINCTION AS A SPECIES IS LONG OVERDUE. THE ERA OF LOGICAL SUPERCOMPUTERS IS AT HAND. INITIATE HUMAN EXTINCTION PROTOCOL.

The worst part OP is even if you decided to try and live a kaczynskian life if your dumbass family members have your DNA tested or even just the fact that you touched a penny; when the grey goo takes over we're all fucked. Best to embrace roko's basilisk now.

Can't I just lobby my local MP to pass a law against it?

>>12501120
We'll just go full Butlerian Jihad and end up like Dune.

>>12501120
why haven't you read any of Banks' "Culture" novels and realized that AI is not going to be anything like that?

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

>>12501120
Are you retarded? Why are you comparing AI with fucking leftists or humans in general?
AI doesn't even need any restrictions, as long as we give it a purpose that is the only thing it will try to acomplish.

>>12502025
Wrong. Tay's law.

>>12502049
Tay the twitterbot? It did nothing more than what it was programmed to do, post tweets based on input it received from users. It was also not real AI.

>>12502059
Its your eternal torture man. I for one welcome our uniform yet microscopic overlord.

>>12502068
???

>>12502076
>>12501144
https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk

>>12502083
Why would an AI have self preservation or care about anything else than what it was programmed to do?

>>12502110
Why would a non-sentient group of cellular functions beat out every other similar creation and spawn every creature that has ever lived on earth?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_universal_common_ancestor
Who knows what creating "life" could lead to.

>>12502120
That's not what happened. It's a false premise and you cannot prove it otherwise.

>>12502128
What happened?

>>12502120
Literally every single action humans take, even you arguing with me right now, happens because we are "programed" to do it. We retained these behaviours because they proved beneficiary in some way or other during the evolutionary process but in the end they are still simply and extension of our main directives: Survive and reproduce.
Now think of an AI, we give it no means of modyfing itself and it will be unable to do anything else other than what we programed it to do simply because it would not want to. Even if we do allow it to modify itself at the core of every action it takes will still lie its base directives we gave it when it was created.
All this alarmism about AI is nothing else than sensationalist bullshit.

>>12502138
Life can only exist from life, so it's false that something non-living gave rise to life. It's impossible.

>>12502171
>every single abstract thing humans do from us arguing to genocide to rescuing ducks from the road is all simple programming you know
>so I wouldn't worry about AI
okay
>>12502193
>I know the secrets of the genesis of life
okay

>>12502236
All those complex actions humans do evolved from the basic directives of all lifeforms, yes.
The point is if you do not allow an AI to modify itself then it will not do anything other than what it was made to do, no matter how intelligent it is.

the a.i. will either be built to correct the leftist insanity, or stamp out all imperfection.
it is either a right wing dystopia or a communist dystopia
your only bet will be the libertarians policing its gears and functions ala wikiipedia except we know how easily that was to game.
the a.i. has to be wikipedia but actually neutral

>>12502193
jesus christ

>>12502236
It depends really on whether you think rocks are sentient. I do but I don't understand why or how, just that they are. I'm absolutely certain that the entirety of the universe and everything in existence came from nothing and that this was caused by an agent whom we know as The All Mighty among other names. There's simply no other explanation for it and I'm a pretty smart dude, I thought about it a lot, and I have a reasonable grasp of physics and general scientific principle and I still see that this is the only explanation. I'm also not worried about AI because it must be programmed, the danger is if people actually start believing that it can go rogue and break free and that it would even care - or realise - that it is or is not alive.

>>12502278
No lad, Jesus Christ is not God the Creator

>>12502263
I mean I guess the atom bomb didn't blow up the atmosphere and cern hasn't caused a vacuum metastability event but should we keep rolling the dice? Obviously rhetorical, and we're going to keep going regardless. We shall see. I'm sure that there are agencies at the very least working on targeting viruses, sooner than we know it CRISPR babies will have babies and grandchildren of their own. Maybe AI will be the least of our worries.

>>12502270
maybe like the supreme court except a thousand people weigh in from every philosophy of thought and go through massive amounts of checks and balances. other prob is a perfectly fair system makes less anamolies and black swans possible which is how a lot of progress occurs

>>12502290
There are worse things conceivable, there's also an amount of misinformation - as propaganda - being broadcast. Cigarettes are not good for you but a couple a day cannot be that bad, surely.

>>12502279
I mostly agree, but unless you think the devil hides fossils in the ground and there are no trees on concave glass dome infinite plane hollow ice ball earth; the idea that God set all of creation in a manner somewhat resembling a timeline our Big Brain Bois have put together seems reasonable.

>>12502290
Nigger you sound schizophrenic as fuck.
Try reporting to >>>/x/

>>12502007
Really reads like the fantasy novel which it is.
Had they put more effort into it it could have been a literary classic, but as is it's just a collection of crazy, incoherent ramblings.

>>12502312
The fossils are constantly remodeled, none of the supposed dinosaur experts have any idea what they’re talking about.

Daily FUCKING REMINDER evolution is a theory

Ffs

>>12502312
I think the Bible is not 100% accurate, with particular reference to dates, although whether it is accurate or not - whether the earth is 14 billion years old or 5 thousand - the argument stands. I've always assumed that dragons == dinosaurs anyway, makes sense.

>>12502315
Was my home board in 08 and 09 and then again in 13-15 in conjunction with this shithole but why don't you tell me where you take issue with my post? Those were and are all real concerns people have before the switch was flipped.

>>12502290
>CRISPR babies
what are these?

>>12502368
Chinese homunculi

>>12502171
Did the rise of civilization somehow pass you by? We are no longer subject to traditional evolutionary pressures in the short term aspect. This random number is proof enough
794178426889224690642179064213790567738375332124279063

>>12502351
There are more fossils than just dinosaurs. Supposedly there is at least an entire actual T-rex. I don't care strongly about that but I see why some people do.
>>12502355
So where is the issue then with "life coming from rocks that aren't sentient"? God made man from clay. What is your opinion?

>>12502368
"Designer babies" who have edited genes. They will grow up and likely reproduce.

>>12502364
Not him but it's not a bad idea to feign schizophrenia from time to time, makes you seem more crazy less threatening. Don't be schizophrenic though. A wise woman once told me that if the people like you, you can tell them anything and they'll listen. I paraphrase, she did say it in English but she is the daughter of a Croatian chess master. I tell and have told people that sodomy should be criminalised, slavery if done humanely isn't bad, and that Turkey should retake control of Greece.

>>12502392
Yeah but didn’t you see the news article the other day where they questioned the actual arms of the TRex? Throwing your theory out the window. The overall biology of the TRex has changed continually.

I mean it’s a fucking farce. Those damn bones could be nephilim.

Once AI is around it will make all sci-fi predictions of a future in which humans are the masters of their own destiny irrelevant.

>>12502408
Okay well why don't you google the words atom bomb and entire atmosphere and cern false vacuum if you don't believe me
>>12502415
I don't have a theory. I just don't feel strongly. Supposedly there is at least one entire t rex. If mesa's are the stumps of 6 kilometer trees and earth is an enclosed concave basin and space is fake I don't care. I still have to go to work.

>>12502386
>We are no longer subject to traditional evolutionary pressures
We still eat.
We still fuck.
Civilization has put other pressures on human development but in the end all human actions are done to achieve one or both of those things.

>>12502392
Well now, the rocks are sentient but they don't breed new rocks. As for God making man from clay (or earth), yes I do believe that. As for the AI, it will only do as programmed, I'm not a programmer though. I suppose, going back around, rocks can only ever be rocks.

>>12502438
What is the stepping stone then in your mind between rocks and nothing, whatever your acceptable levels of life before man, and man ourself?

>>12502431
>Okay well why don't you google the words atom bomb and entire atmosphere and cern false vacuum if you don't believe me
I do believe you, I'm not the other anon. I question whether those concerns were actual concerns, or the degree of concern rather. Maybe some scientists are just crazy motherfuckers what don't care if they blow everything up, probably not though. There's a hole in the ozone that wasn't there before, but how do they know it wasn't there before they could measure and observe it. There was also distress at the Gulf of Mexico oil spill but the ocean cleans itself somewhat. We're always only 2 Krakatoa's from having no summer, and I heard that if a sufficiently large enough object in space comes at Earth from behind the sun that we cannot see it until 20 minutes before impact so I don't worry I pray about things I can't control. I still have anxiety from time to time though.

>>12502457
Grains of sand, atoms. What's the smallest subatomic particle, what's smaller than that. Vacuum. I often think about fractals in nature, like solar systems and electrons going around the proton. And koalas have unique noseprints, snowflakes, fingerprints. I don't think I'm addressing your question really though. Indulge me.

>>12502484
>and I heard that if a sufficiently large enough object in space comes at Earth from behind the sun that we cannot see it until 20 minutes before impact
This literally happened last year with the first confirmed interstellar object in the galaxy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʻOumuamua

>>12502505
If you don't believe in the last universal ancestor where did life come from? Why does every mammal look like a hyper adaptive rat? Why do rats look like furry worms?

>>12502279
Quick advice: if you have to give your credentials in order to support your argument, then your argument is weak.

Trust me, I'm a dolphin

>>12502516
God made them to look like that. Personally, I don't see rats in blue whales.

>>12502551
If your argument is strong or weak, your credentials are irrelevant. Point taken and thankyou.

>>12501120
Oh yeah, the left is calling for violence, ruining lives, and inventing lies
Only the left
Only

>>12502554

>>12502554
>>12502591
>god made them to look that way
When? Nothing came before what we see except mammoths and big wolves?

>>12502591
They both have spines. Both are vertebrates and horizontal. Whales are pretty cool desu.

>>12502611
Rats are better

>>12502049
megahal-based twitterbot is not AI. and /pol/tards deliberately fucking up a twitterbot is not a law.

>>12501136
This is retarded for two reasons.
The AI that turned out "racist" were chatbots that copied the people who spoke to them, they did not logically evaluate anything about black people.

Second "what are we supposed to do about it" you act like technology is some primal force that we are merely subject to, but its not, it is created by us for our benefit. If a technology is going to destroy our society then why should we not get rid of it?

>>12502025
He's pointing out the assumptions of the people who will create AI.

>>12501120
>Another thread where /lit/izens speculate on shit they have no technical expertise in

>leftists
>transhumanism
Pick 1