/lit/ - Literature

>>12486740
I’d be down for a /lit/ kurultai.

>>12486740

Holy, I never imagined that /lit/ had even people from Mongolia. So Anon, how is life in Ulaanbaatar?

>>12486740

I'm in if you give me 12 months to get the money together

>>12486461

My great-grandpa was stationed in Germany during WWII. One time he was asked by a German nobleman "Heidelberg?" His reply: "No, 12-oz beer bottle."

Fencing is fun.

>>12486740
I'd be down but I live in Choybalsan, if we can find a middle ground I'll come for sure

You never hear anything from Mongolia, very strange.
Suspicious, I wonder what secrets they're hiding from the rest of the world.

>>12486809
>Choybalsan
holy shit , i just googled that and im sorry but its one of the ugliest cities i've ever seen in my life, how is living there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvINNwA9n8

>>12486809
Nice...

>>12486740
Doesnt Mongolia have a population of like 12 people. I doubt youll have much luck with that.

>>12486740

Based.

>tfw nobody responded to my Tristan da Cunha meetup thread

>>12488263
There are actually a lot of Mongolian posters on /lit/, you'd be surprised.

>>12486740
>Mongolian basket weaving forum turns out to actually be Mongolian

Tom khamartai ovgiig alakh

>>12488280
How is life there, anon? Comfy islands are never too much, and I would like to visit it someday when I finally have the money to realise my dream of being a seafarer.

>>12486759
make it 8

>>12488263
Mongolia is not just what you see on the map. The actual Mongolian Empire stretches from Turku to Kuril, from Yakutsk to Agra.

It's hard to believe that otis uses gmail. Kind of silly, given how intelligent and well-read he is.

>>12491220
Ah, you're the one who makes the funny memes. Found some old posts on warosu last night.

>>12487203
lol at this video and soundtrack showcasing this dismal post-soviet wasteland like it's some trendy neighborhood in California

>>12486740
Why don't we reconvene at our second capital, Helsinki?

>>12491304
Of course

>>12487203
kek

There’s a comfy little cafe off Sambuu street next to the Zanabazar museum and the Dorgio club called Cosy Corner that I recommend if you’re genuinely around for this, lads.

what the hell is happening here

>>12491460
Private discussion among friends.

this is a stealth finland thread you goddamn spurdos don't fool me

Би opчин үeийн мoнгoл бичгийн зoхиoлчдыг oлoхыг хичээж бaйнa. Дaшдopжин Haцaгдopж, Бямбин eвpeнч нap yp чaдвapтaй бoлoвч тэд хөгшддөг. зөвлөмж үү?

>>12486740
lol what the fug
I live in Russia like 60 hours from you guys by Train –should I come?

>>12487063
No one knows where the great Khan is buried. May he rise again.

>>12491507
Here's some advice:

No need to worry. But there will be private security until graduation. Chill if you can, swamp doesn't get too cold but alligators and nutria still manage to relax. And you're an alligator. I respect that, and I respect you.

Can't say the same for your followers though, knuckles and photoshop are both pretty stupid.

>>12492288
>I live like 60 hours from you guys
next door mate

>>12492288
you don't have planes in russia?

>>12492383
I was thinking it's not so bad; it's longer to Moscow

>>12492427
planes are really really fucking expensive and it'd still take me like 15 hours probably

>>12492467
>flying is expensive in russia
lol nice "capitalism" you got there

Posting in epic thread.

>>12492476
Obviously we are poor especially in things that involve travel or foreign goods, but I think this is a bad example. Less emphasis on travel is good for a country, especially travel beyond your borders. Article 27 was a mistake and led to huge brain drain.

is your "capitalism" better?

>>12492467
i understood what you were thinking but it sounded funny, in 60 hours by train i can probably go from Greece to Norway. where in Russia you live?

>>12492744
lol oslo-athens takes 62 hours by train according to google

>>12492835
fuck, i need to reconsider distance from a russian point of view, so i'll visit my parents and brother more frequently

FUCK CHINESE AND FUCK JANNIES

>this entire thread
So what exactly do you Mongols even DO in Mongolia? Is sounds pretty boring to be quite honest

>>12492744
Oh, I get it. Yes, the scale is pretty different. I live in Novosibirsk, so it is very far away from Europe. I have never actually been, but if I ever do, I will try to visit a lot of countries. It's nice, because your countries are definitely close together in comparison though >>12492835 surprised me actually

>>12492989
good luck mate. you can take the trans-siberian (one of my dreams) and come to europe after the /lit/ meeting in mongolia. you may have great distances and harsh weather, but you also have all those tall, blonde, blue-eyed beautiful women. i would be an alcoholic or rapist if i lived in Novosibirsk. (which one are you?)

>>12493111
if you ever do such a trip and post about it on /lit/, I will show you a good time. I always thought meeting up with someone from here would be really great, to the extent that if there were ever a meetup in Mongolia I would genuinely go.

I'm probably an alcoholic. There is no need to be a rapist, the girls here are nice. The weather is also just something you are used to, I think, and the great distance has its charms. I like it here, actually.

Unfortunately, I will definitely not make it to Europe for a long time. Too expensive.

>>12486740
wish I could go

>>12486809
I lived in Darkhan for a few years. Choybalsan is hellish.

>>12491457
Not a bad spot, I guess. The terrible thing about Mongolian cafes is how cheesy they are. All the decor is gaudy and there are very few spaces that are actually cozy in the sense of something you'd find in Europe or even the US, really.

>>12492979
Drink.

t. White American who lived in Mongolia.

>>12493179
maybe someday mate, both of us will make the same trip in different directions.

>>12493273
post photos mate

>>12486755
what kind of basket weaving forum do you think you're on?

>>12493297
Picture of an authentic H&M/Zara that was just down the street from where I lived.

I didn't take that many photos after the first few months there, nor did I have a smart phone or good camera, anyway.

>>12492979
Umm, gallivant around the open steppe on your quad bike, wind in your hair and falcon at your arm?? Do you even know what ultimate freedom feels like??

>>12493406
how the fuck did you end up there? spy?

HaHa very funny you edgy empirical racists

>>12493477
US government, but not for spying.

>>12493422
The falcon stuff is all out in the Western, Kazakh area. But yeah, plenty of times ridding around on dirt bikes/quads going out for a picnic in the steppe with lots of cheap vodka.

I genuinely can't tell whether this thread is a joke or not, the fact that there is a community of Mongols here on /lit/ is mindblowing to me. The entirety of the country has just slightly more people than my city.

>>12493297
diverse brothers man

>>12493422
very pretty

>>12493618

>>12493550
It's just OP memeing on the NYC meetup thread makers and some throat singing enthusiasts

Not by inconceivable stupidity,
Not by the way of worldly people,
Not by playing around with theories -
This wretched mind, wonderful as it is,
Quite unprepared, scorns the many
Instructions of Lama Vajradhara.
We shall abandon our careless manner,
Cavorting through nearby lands,
And, carefully, we shall follow his advice.
May we be the protector of beings.
A thief imposes his lifestyle,
Grasping here and there; but, unlike him,
Maybe not go astray in the world.

Padmasambhava of Orgyen, I
Pray to you without respite.
People in this world suffer from
Protracted ignorance.
Paltry results of existence
Proceed apace, if we ignore them.
Protracted thought
Provides the breadth of one's mind with failure.
Pissing it up, you think of gulping down, all
Passion for the world is lost.
Pleasure it is, for sure, to meet the wife who, im-
Pulsive, screams out.
Propriety, when you experience a thing,
Prejudices its quality overmuch.
People with a breadth of understanding, more and more
Perceive what they see to be magic.
Petty nuisance, you might call me –
Plenty of years my mother has loved me.
Buddha I’ll be straightaway, by the
Power of meaningful Dharma.

The branches of trees
Sway in the wind.
My mind moves
Clearer than moonlight.
Although I’ve left for the northern Khangai,
My mind remains behind.
Soaked will I be in mockery
For years to come.
Kindness and ancient true prayers
Have brought me benevolence.
Without delusion, all the days of my lives,
May I enjoy them both.
May I live
In the air of peaceful joy.
In the shade of a colorful bloom
May my loving mind be pacified.

>>12486755
Its a meme dude

>>12493273
It's probably one of the nicer areas of UB, down and around Sukhbaatar and Baruun street. Lots of students, and the least 'dive-y' area of the city, so take what you can get. Never had much fun with drinking though, most of the bars are absolute holes and the big guys in them are the type who will rip your spine out if you piss them off. Opoc хэл cypaх. Энэ нь эмэгтэйчүүдийг aвaхaд тycaлдaг.

>>12493950
so young mongols are edgy? "what are you looking at" etc?

I better not migrate all the way over just to find this was all a ruse

Any Mongolian literature about life in cities and plains faggots?

>>12493982
A lot of them are alcoholics and they're naturally more confrontational than other east asians. I suppose if you live in a isolated, frozen wasteland picking fights is a way to let off some of that angst though a lack of opportunities in the country doesn't help and only adds to the listlessness, like in a lot of post-soviet countries. Not that Mongolians can articulate that very well mind. They're like kids who are down and out in most places I guess, except they're huge and pack a big punch so they can afford to wear a bit of a swagger. Foreigners often get assaulted in clubs if they get too friendly with local women, for example. That's part genuine racism, part thrill of the fight. They can be fun guys, but if you see them in action you'll understand how they conquered a third of the world once.

I can be there within the week, wait for me

Hoцтoй. Үүнийг хий? Би хүcч бaйнa.

>>12494110
i thought they were manlets. we better be careful at our meeting

>>12494110
Now I want to see what Mongol thugs look like. Is gym culture big in Mongolia or something?

>>12488263
Brainlet

>>12494157
Tиймээ. Би бac хүcч бaйнa. Энд Moнгoл өөp хүн бaйдaг гэдэгт би итгэхгүй бaйнa! Ta caйн мэдэpч бaйнa yy? гaгaгaгaгaгa

>>12494157
>>12494214
Aнгли хэлний фaгoтyyд яpьдaг

>>12493550
I really hope it's real. Would be comfy to have some Mongolian boys here.

>>12494173
Pretty big. The current president is a former wrestler and bodybuilder. A disproportionate number of sumos, weightlifters and wrestlers come from Mongolia.

>>12493273
>>12494110
How do you people cope living somewhere so harsh? Is there genuinely actual Mongolian literature?

>>12494110
I spent part of high school in Mongolia and there was usually a lot of wrestling that happened in the locker room, in a casual test of strength, and then real fights coming out of nowhere in the classroom. I heard from my dad it happened at the uni he taught at as well

>>12496278
> spent part of high school in Mongolia

Why

I'm in HK and may go to this is its for real

I sent a messenger over to an anon I know in Khukh Uzuur to see if he is interested but I probably won't hear back for a week. Messengers are slow in winter

>>12494778
Drink. Domestic violence. No really - after living there I can say that's pretty much it for the winter. Its dark early and stays that way until late in the morning, so it's not just the -30/40 C that hits you it's the lack of sun, too.

>>12493950
Well that's certainly true with MUST and a few other universities around the area. I never had many problems with the locals, even after getting frisky with the women. Evidently this is because I'm skinny so the men didn't see much honor in beating me up. However, I saw quite a few small Chinese dudes getting their ass kicked so go figure.

Ever run into Цaгaaн Хac in UB? Talk about real weirdos...

>>12496278
Never been to a school with a "locker room" but this is my experience as well. Guys just fighting randomly for fun.

HUIUHUHUUUUUUEUEUEUEEUUUUURROORUUUUUUUUUUAAA

>>12497923
Mongols probably have a lot more reason to hate Chinks than they do some Western expat.

>>12486740
>tfw you will never ride across the plains, following the great khan, conquering the world

Would unironically be a nice life.

>>12498009
that only happened very rarely. your modal day would be herding animals or raping your wife. still nice i guess

>>12498028
You can’t rape what belomgs to you

>>12498037
good point. im just too used to the cucked language of the West.

>>12497923
I’ve had several people screech and yell at me in Mongolian and follow me down the street but I don’t know if they were Tsagaan Khas. I’ve seen them around though a few times and you occasionally spot them in bars. I always found the whole phenomenon strangely fascinating rather than anything else. It’s not unreasonable to have grievances with China, but they articulate that in a confused way.

>>12492503
>is your "capitalism" better?

Better enough that people aren't leaving in droves.

>>12498002
Well, yes, of course that is true but they don't want their women with any foreigner, regardless. I just found it funny that since I am a lanklet I'm not worth the trouble.

>>12498108
Did you ever pick up on the fact dudes will spit in your path? I was told by a Mongolian bro that this is them "protecting" the ground from a foreigner.

I went to the "Nazi" bar in UB and it was pretty comical. Looked like most of the people there were straight from Hot Topic. I'm white/Germanic looking and was by myself so they didn't care.

Tbh I miss some vegan Mongolian food from that Loving Hut next to the Buddhist center on Urt Tsagaan Zam.

>>12498278
worth going to visit at some point? I am the nearby Russian guy, and honestly hadn't ever really considered it.

>>12494778
>Is there genuinely actual Mongolian literature?
I forgot to answer this...

My understanding is that aside from The Secret History of the Mongols and some poets there isn't much to speak of in terms of national literature. There is one poet, Galsan Tschinag, that I enjoy. He wrote a lot in German as well.

From what I gathered books are really expensive and people would rather not spend their money on them. Almost every home I walked into had a small handful of books, if any. Reading culture isn't common. Every time I would go reading in a local cafe (there was a grand total of one in my area) or public square people thought I was weird for not just wanting to use the WiFi and leave.

Expensive books + few translations or native works + lack of reading "culture" = people that still probably are more cultured than /lit/ but read about the same amount.

You better take a group photo

>>12498292
Yeah, I'd say so. The other guy might be able to offer his own wisdom but after living there a few years as an American I can say it was weird but worth a trip if you are say, Korean, Japanese, or Russian, and thus have cheap travel access. Hardly anyone speaks decent English outside the capital. There are a few areas with a Russians like Erdenet but they are fucking boring so you'll want to stay in the capital and take excursions to the countryside (Khövsgöl Nuur is my top recommendation...the Gobi is also one people like but it's honestly boring to me).

>>12498321
Kinda QT in the back...more of her? Or maybe more of Heidegger there? He's QT too.

>>12486740
>Tuva
>Mongolia

>>12497451
Dad's a professor and got an opportunity to teach in UB, I went to a private English speaking school which still had a mostly Mongol student body

>>12498318
Btw Mongolia has a higher IQ than Japan, S. Korea on these meme IQ charts. Is it true?

>>12498342
interesting, I loved Baikal, so I'll check it out. Thanks for the rec

>>12498518
If that's actually true it just goes to show that IQ doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot.

I like Mongolia and Mongolians but damn, they are some of the most child-like and aggressive people I've encountered in all my travels. The country itself is like a second or third tier Russian city, as well, and I don't have much faith things will get better given how bad pollution and unemployment are in UB, which is a city the USSR designed for 500K people and it now holds something in excess of 1.5M and growing. The outskirts are just slums of uncountable gers with no law and order, just pumping out masses of coal pollution.

>>12498540
Correction. Not higher than those two countries,but still in the top 10, ahead of most European countries.

>>12498540
Well maybe because Mongols have been nomads for so long?

>>12498009
>tfw you live on a default windows wallpaper

>>12498278
>>12498108
lol, are Mongolians always this confrontational and racist or is that just disgruntled people from the capital?

>>12492503
>Less emphasis on travel is good for a country
>Article 27 was a mistake and led to huge brain drain.

>>12493273
>White American
Wow. A Mongolian and a fabled white American in a single thread. Auspicious year.

>>12498662
not an argument, prove me wrong faggt

>>12498661
The less-well educated ones who live in the cities are in my experience, but like with /pol/ it's partly an outlet for their listlessness. The ger-dwelling nomads are a lot friendlier, for the most part, though there are still a few total loons. Some are literal barbarians too who build bone shrines, hunt lizards and eat goat heads. At the very least, those types tend to be more apathetic to foreigners than actively confrontational though.

>>12493333
absolutely based and quadpilled

>>12492979
>that image
>that post
leave pleb, the steppe is not for you

>>12498674
>пидopaхa oпять #тoлькoвыигpaлa oт тoгo чтo билeт нa caмoлeт для нeгo pocкoшь
Кaк тyт зaпpyвaть-тo cyпpoтив тaкoгo yмищa.

>>12498929
>>12498713

>>12498794
>Some are literal barbarians too who build bone shrines, hunt lizards and eat goat heads.
based desu

>>12498518
>>12498540
Mongolia has a smaller economy than equatorial guinea, an african literally who micronation with an average iq of 59.

>>12499018
Just saying that all the sci and pol charts have the average Mongolian iq at 101.

>>12499018
equatorial guinea has oil, retard. and all their money is in a few hands

>>12499018
Mongolia has like 3 million people tops, with maybe a third of them being fucking nomads who don't participate properly in the national economy.
Not to mention it's fucking landlocked.

>>12499049
>>12499054
>>12499070
Yes, my point is that circumstances matter.

>>12499049
It's interesting though, maybe IQ doesn't accurately measure intelligence, but it's rare that such a high IQ population is absolutely terrible at integrating at modern conditions. Mongolia is a strange place.

>>12498932
write english you nigger. But yes, obviously being poor sucks. That doesn't mean the flight of human capital makes your country better. Just look at all Africa: every brain goes to America. Same for Eastern EU and Germany. Even same here. Would be better if it was harder for them to leave. It's ungrateful when you have been educated by a country to abandon it

>>12498108
Average /pol/ poster right here

>>12498292
If you spend any time east of the Urals in your country there are parts that are not entirely dissimilar so it depends how well-travelled you are. For all its problems and its bleakness though I still think of it as one of the last remaining truly romantic countries. There really aren't many other places in the world like it - maybe Kazakhstan or Siberia. On the gelid, barren, windswept steppe you'll see the world at its most brutal and most sublime. There are rugged nomads, squalid shantytowns, soaring falcons, biting frosts, rotting carcasses and a horizon of infinite nothingness. In Ulaanbaatar, people are torn between that and post-soviet modernity but it all still exists in their psyche and outside the capital. One of my most memorable experiences has been driving for hours to the very middle of nowhere, getting out of the vehicle and seeing the flat, empty steppe reaching out to eternity around me. Just nothingness, a nothingness in the most absolute sense, stretching into the beyond. Go during early-mid spring when the frosts are milder and the midnight sun of the deep north starts to linger on the horizon and the night escapes away.

>>12500440
are there gas stations? wandering thieves?

>>12500166
These those dudes who want to make sure chinks don't come and steal mongolian women?

>>12500013
You don't owe any sort of loyalty to the state or whatever the fuck provided you with education.