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What project are you working on right now?

>> No.12454867

>>12454861
crushing newfags

>> No.12454873

Long recoil handgun chambered in 50 ae that takes desert eagle mags

>> No.12454930

Sci-fi story set in the 2190's in the asteroid belt.
Currently in editing hell.

>> No.12454958

>>12454930
I just flash through /lit/ sometimes so likely wont read beyond this post, but that seems like a pretty decent setting. Are you planning on getting it published soon?

>> No.12454971

>>12454958
Yeah. Self-publishing.
The first couple chapters are rough with too much explanation and not enough explanation mixed in. The back half is good though.

>> No.12454973

Yet another unsellable manuscript I plan on aborting onto amazon.

>> No.12454978

>>12454861
senior thesis on evangelion

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>>12454861
Magic kung-fu webnovel.

>> No.12455032

>>12454861
working and saving money to move out of mom's basement

>> No.12455087

Not really a /lit/ regular, but do any of you guys have any links to guides/lessons on how to write well?
I want to write a book about my philosophy mainly to cement it for myself, and maybe to share with others since people seem to always come to me for life advice.

>> No.12455098

>>12455032
Cringe

>> No.12455102

haven't written since high school but it was always the only thing i was good at from day one so i'm thinking of returning to it & just giving myself really simple rudimentary plots to write a story from for practice

>> No.12455112

>>12454971
If your chapters contain too much explanation, I don't see how mixing in explanation could help.

>>12454861
An employer's reference and smut for /tg/.

>> No.12455126

>>12454861
I'm going to best buy to get a laptop today. Any suggestions for one that I can sit at for 4-5 hours every day and write a novel?

>> No.12455127

>>12455087
That's too vague. Just pick an author whose style you like and try to imitate their prose.

>> No.12455140

>>12454971
>>12454930
Yeesh, sounds bad desu, especially the fact that you are self publishing. Do you want to make serious art?

>> No.12455141

>>12455087
>>12455127
I suggest Breivik and Kaczynski. But don't copy their marketing.

>> No.12455143

>>12455087
Read good literature books and don't waste time on philosophy.

>> No.12455290

my satirical journal ala notes from the underground but real and more humiliating

>> No.12455654

Just finished an essay about Caligula, am working on another about quietism and another about insomnia.

>> No.12455655

>>12454861
A big fat shit

>> No.12455711

>>12454861
a practical-theoretical book explaining spiritual nondualism to modern people who can use it to help enlighten themselves and ascend spiritually. still not sure of the format/style to write it in though. was originally going to be self-help, but i feel that "voice" isn't as interesting

>> No.12455732

YA urban fantasy. Not exactly highbrow but I'm aiming for saleable.
>>12454973
Any of them get sales?
>>12455087
>philosophy
Don't get pretty with the prose, just keep it clean and logical for ease of comprehension. Look into academic styles.

>> No.12455749

>>12455732
Not him, but this is where I struggle. I want to write something philosophical yet still with artistic flourish. Is there something wrong with that? Isn't that what Kierkegaard, Schop and Nietzche have done? Not that I care to be like them, but isn't artistic merit a merit of its own, and something which adds to the philosophy being exposited? And helps both the reader's enjoyment of it in the moment, and the longevity of the philosophy afterwards?

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>>12455732
>Any of them get sales?
Does this count?

Granted, this was just a 99 cent shitpost rather than a serious effort, but still.

>> No.12455773

>>12455764
Which, "The Heart" or "Anatomy of Autism"?

>> No.12455783

>>12455773
The former. It's actually the final "volume" in a series of short 99 cent shitposts. The first one was "Tao Lin On A Tricycle".

>> No.12455790

>>12455773
>>12455783

Though really they're both anatomies of autism, t b h.

>> No.12455807

I'm just getting started and looking for some criticism/critiquing.
https://pastebin.com/Kdn8RVFL
Here are some things to note:
1. I neologize. I like creating new words to enrich the language, so you'll see that at least once in there.
2. I sometimes write long sentences.
3. I'm not adverse to using adverbs and adjectives as I see them as a part of the language and tools to be used.
4. It becomes very expository very fast.
5. I don't think I vary up my sentences' syntax enough.

>> No.12455911

>>12455783
How much dosh have you raked in so far?
>>12455807
It's not good. The dialogue is awkward (no one speaks that way) and your imagery is disjointed instead of painting a picture. You're unintentionally implying things with your word choices that screw up the mood of the scene.
>In the cold darkness of her bedchamber,
Do you want the scene to be cold and dark, which is unpleasant, or warm and soft, which is pleasant and better suits a mom telling the kid a story?
>she grunted a long moan, a bubble which dilated until it popped
Makes it sound like she formed a snot bubble and is crass and disgusting
>a somnolent smile emerged (rev: pulled or punctured) on her face
Let's go with punctured here. Why the fuck would you say that? Is the smile stabbing her face?
>and were he to see it clearly, its glow would have warmed him in his drafting ("chilling") home.
DRAFTY
Your grammar is a fucking mess. If English is your second language, please write in whatever your native tongue is. I didn't read the storydump because the thought of that convention bored the shit out of me. Any editor would throw that whole shit in the garbage if you did that.
Is there any way, any at all, that you could convey the same information in an exciting way, preferably not an infodump, where the shit going on in the background is plot relevant?
You're aiming for flowery purple prose but you don't know how aspects of the English language work together. You're inventing new words when you can't even use existing words effectively to get across a solid picture of the scene. Worst of all, it's damned boring.
I'm not trying to be mean, anon. But you need to reexamine how English literature is composed. You're trying to insert the affectation of high literature when your skill is gradeschooler tier. Take a book, any book, and read it closely. Look at how they compose sentences, look at how they set moods, look at how every word is coordinated towards a single purpose.

>> No.12455962

>>12455911
>Do you want the scene to be cold and dark, which is unpleasant, or warm and soft, which is pleasant and better suits a mom telling the kid a story?
>Your grammar is a fucking mess.
My grammar is absolutely not a fucking mess, you mongoloid. Diction≠grammar. Grammar is morphosyntax.
>Makes it sound like she formed a snot bubble and is crass and disgusting
The point is that the long moan grew loud (expand) and dissipated (popped).
>Let's go with punctured here.
It's to convey that her cheeks are being punctured with a smile, i.e. she's spreading her lips.
>in his drafting ("chilling") home
At the time, I was thinking of it being active: it's not currently drafty, but is becoming draftier, more chilly, hence fucking chilling and drafting.
>Do you want the scene to be cold and dark, which is unpleasant, or warm and soft, which is pleasant and better suits a mom telling the kid a story?
This is about the only useful thing here.

>> No.12455986

>>12455807
Agree with most of the above anon's crit. Adverbs and adjectives are a part of the language, but bad writers use them in ways that convey no new information and just add deadweight to the text. You're not at the level of Melville where you can make adjectives and adverbs hew strongly to mood and rhythm, and a lot of them are used in cliched ways. Cold darkness and flamy wisp are examples - these are adjectices you expect from the noun, so they feel like filler descriptors.

Neologisms, or rare words for that matter, should be used sparingly in a context where you are certain the word will be intuitively understood. Nobody wants to decode blocky latinate morphemes while reading an already blocky text.

Starting with a mythopoiea dump is a big no no.

Read 500 books of different prose styles, from simple to complex, before you start thinking about stuff like 'enriching language'

>> No.12456008

>>12455962
You're being incredibly defensive and are obviously new to taking criticism. For someone who said he was "just getting started" maybe you ought to check your ego and listen to other people's suggestions.
Your grammar is a damned mess. You sound outright ESL.
I'm sorry I wasted time trying to help you.

>> No.12456021

>>12455986
>Starting with a mythopoiea dump is a big no no.
Yeah, I was just trying to get it down.
>Cold darkness and flamy wisp are examples - these are adjectices you expect from the noun, so they feel like filler descriptors.
I think I'm actually autistic and connotation for me just needs to be spelled out.
>>12456008
No, I defend myself; point me to a sentence that is grammatically a mess. I'll knock it down point by point. If has something to do meaning (semantics), it's not grammar.
>You're being incredibly defensive
Of course, I dispute things I disagree with.

>> No.12456028

>>12456021
>>12456021
*If it has something to do with meaning (semantics), it's not grammar.

>> No.12456055

>>12455986
>Adverbs and adjectives are a part of the language, but bad writers use them in ways that convey no new information and just add deadweight to the text
How often would you say that I do that?
>Read 500 books of different prose styles
Do you have any recommendations?

>> No.12456089

>>12454861
Ordered The Bible and whole of Nietzsche collection. I have a weird project in mind.

>> No.12456111

Same thing I've always been working on: Trying to come up with a project.

>> No.12456124

>>12456055
Just ask yourself whether those adjectives do anything besides conveying information or acting as verbal fluff. Oscar Wilde's Dorian Gray is one to start with - just look at how he manages the sounds and music of his writing so different moods are conveyed at the start, with flowery sensuous prose, compared to a later scene when Dorian visits a dingy bar.

>The studio was filled with the rich odour of roses, and when the light summer wind stirred amidst the trees of the garden, there came through the open door the heavy scent of the lilac, or the more delicate perfume of the pink-flowering thorn.

>Dorian winced and looked round at the grotesque things that lay in such fantastic postures on the ragged mattresses. The twisted limbs, the gaping mouths, the staring lustreless eyes, fascinated him. He knew in what strange heavens they were suffering, and what dull hells were teaching them the secret of some new joy. They were better off than he was. He was prisoned in thought.

Notice how the prose sounds softer up top, and more grotesque and 'dirtier' below. See how Wilde makes the adjectives work for him beyond description, reflecting character and psychology. Also note how precise his imagery is. He has a nice balance between imagery and other stuff like banter or philosophical rumination in the whole of the novel. On the other hand, the entirety of your text is weighed down by the same general tone, from description to character to mythopoeia, and it's horribly overwritten.

>> No.12456167

>>12456124
As a further example, I've used your punctured smile metaphor in a different context:

A smile punctured itself on the killer's mien, as he lashed his shiv across her chest, gnawing into her flesh. The tattered skin ripped into many scarlet rivers.

The killer walked slowly, letting a languid smile caress his face, as he drew the length of his blade across her chest, allowing blossoms of blood to wilt down her bosom.

Notice how the mood can change based on word choice alone, and ask yourself if your own text displays the same control of mood.

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Trying to figure out the best way to start my web serial.

Not sure if I should try to make my own website or just go with one of these free-account websites. I don't want to start on one to just realise I should have done the other.

>> No.12456189

>>12456124
>and more grotesque and 'dirtier' below
I'm not sure I agree with that because the way I view things is somewhat sound-based, but I'm getting tired and I'll have to give it another go. The only thing I can note is the contrast between the outside which is aromatic because of the living flowers and their scents filling the (I'm presuming) squalid studio.
>the entirety of your text is weighed down by the same general tone
I have question on this: is it a prerequisite to alternate the tone in scene? A second question is: is flamy in flamy wisp necessarily redundant? I'll concede cold darkness. And is there anything even good in it?

>and it's horribly overwritten
Yes, I know. I have perfectionism that can be extremely crippling to the point where I just couldn't write at all. I haven't written much in a decade, and I'd never say that anything I wrote in the past was worth a damn, either.

>>12456167
>as he lashed his shiv across her chest, gnawing into her flesh
I don't like your use of verbs here; there's no consistency.
>scarlet rivers
I'd replace river with rivulets to parallel scarlet.
>allowing blossoms of blood to wilt down her bosom
That's a nice line.

>> No.12456193

>>12456182
Didn't Wildbow just use Wordpress for Worm? Just write good stuff and they will come

>> No.12456205

>>12455911
>How much dosh have you raked in so far?
Not much but I've been aware of my physical incapacity to write anything comercially viable or even socially acceptable in a basic sense from the start so sales were never the goal. I just write whatever I want, however I feel like writing it. It tends to result in more of an assault against the potential reader than any attempt at appealing to them, because that gets me off.

>> No.12456277

>>12456189
Both parts are from different parts of the novel. I was just showing the contrast between moods. If you can't feel the difference between words like

Odour, light summer wind stirred amidst the the trees

And

Twisted limbs, gaping mouths, staring lustreless eyes

Then I have to wonder what you mean by "the way I view things is somewhat sound-based".

Also, it's not a pre-requisite within the scene but what I'm saying is your choices don't seem to be consistent at all. Like the previous anon noted, it sounds strangely crass, mainly because you have verbs like 'moan' and 'grunt' and all these sinewy-sounding words, despite it being a bedtime scene.

Flamy wisp is a cliche since the most popular connotation to the word is the flaming folklore creature.

>> No.12456357

>>12456277
>I was just showing the contrast between moods. If you can't feel the difference between words like
But you're showing contrast of things that aren't in proximity to each other. If the mood shifted within the same scene as in your example, I would agree, albeit not strongly yet. And in a semantic sense, yes, those two are contrasting, but not entirely in my view, because I would've emphasized the odor from the inside having grown to overpower the outside on top of the other things. It's more balanced and more inverted.

>"the way I view things is somewhat sound-based"
Basically, most of the words in the Dorian Gray example are soft and smooth, with exceptions (light [medium], amidst, grotesque [medium], twisted, fascinated [medium]). It probably doesn't make much sense to you as it doesn't entirely to me.
>Flamy wisp is a cliche since the most popular connotation to the word is the flaming folklore creature.
A wil-o-wisp, sure, but a wisp isn't necessarily flamy and has more to do with thinness. Anon, I know I come off as argumentative, but I really do appreciate you're help, a lot. It might be that I can only improve through dialectic, confrontation.
>t sounds strangely crass, mainly because you have verbs like 'moan' and 'grunt' and all these sinewy-sounding words, despite it being a bedtime scene.
Could you pinpoint in the first paragraph? I'l be back up in seven hours

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>>12454861
another gamebook, about hoagies, because I am trash

>> No.12456700

I'm working on a long, free verse narrative poem. It's one work within a broader, larger story that I've been meaning to tell for a while, and on which I am just getting started. It's deep future science fiction, and it draws strong influence from the greatest hits of the Western Canon.

>> No.12456701

>>12455749
yes but you have to be artistically (autistically) brilliant or you'll end up Ayn Rand

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>>12454861
Just finished my 3rd screenplay, starting rewrites on my 1st one
Showed it to the director I'm working for and he said he loved it and will help me produce it
Hollywood here I come

>> No.12456759

>>12456727
how did you get your script on his table? you are working for him as a writer already or something?

>> No.12456764

I'm working on a novel, and it's literally going to kill me

>> No.12456783

>>12456759
I'm just a PA on his project. I told him I want to be a director early on, he asked if I had anything written, yadda yadda yadda, here we are

>> No.12456796

>>12454861

A treatment for my second book. It's no way fun as writing a scene

>> No.12456808

>>12455087
It's fiction or non fiction?
Anyway, a few book to start:
How to read a book
The art of fiction

>> No.12456850

>>12455711
Sound interesting, in what lang?

>>12456089
fun

>>12456111
It doesn't work that way dude, at least not for me. If you have no idea to what to write, don't write. It's just painful.

>>12456182
Have you tried to ask /co about it?

>> No.12456892

>>12454861
writing some small tidbits here and there for fun. It's absolute garbage but here's one

In solitude I find myself drawn to the familiar echoes of
times passed and friends yet forgotten.

>> No.12456906

>>12456850
First anon here. English my fren.

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Shopping the vampire book around to agents.....

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>>12457094
While working on the new sci fi book.
48k words in.

>> No.12457372

>>12455098
Nah it's admirable

>> No.12457392

Writing a history of my parents' old village
Right now I have a big sheaf of notes and some interviews

I'm mostly doing it because no one else is going to write it and most of the people who have memories of the village and its history are well into their 70s or 80s. It's not exactly writing the next People's History or Decline and Fall but I still feel good about having the opportunity to decide how future generations will perceive how my ancestors lived

>> No.12457545

>>12457392
That sounds really interesting. Are you planning on seeking publication afterwards? Would love to read a comfy history like that.

>> No.12457586

>>12455732
update: I'm working under ten layers of keikaku doori right now. I love writing detailed, multi-layered plots with multiple acting parties all moving independently, but man. my brain actually hurts. But it is done. What I just wrote was going to be the hardest chapter and I got through it. Now at 23k words and everything is set up properly for the rest of the novel to flow through natural consequences hereon out. There's only one keikaku doori event left which is much smaller than this one.
planning a hollywood style bank robbery would be more simple than this.

>> No.12457688

>>12457545
>Are you planning on seeking publication afterwards?
From what I've been told, I'm practically guaranteed publication if I can hit a certain page count (and don't act like an autist on social media).
>Would love to read a comfy history like that.
It isn't going to be comfy. "Bittersweet" is probably the best way I can sum up the history I'm chronicling.

>> No.12457707

>>12457688
I like the sound of that. Anything I should look out for when you get it published? (like a name perhaps)

>> No.12457737

>>12457688
I also want to add, part of me is doing this now because I had this idea in 2013 and instead abandoned it to pursue other things. In the years between then and now several very knowledgeable pensioners passed away and I continue to kick myself for not doing this earlier.

Perhaps I would have been too young then to properly interview them, but those regrets are still there. The only thing I can do is to let those regrets drive my current efforts

>> No.12457750

>>12454861
in the final processing of editing The Schizoanalyst before I start The Myth of the 21st Century and then Manly Man Marries Fertile Woman

hope to finish both this year

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Trying to get started on my fantasy novel. I've opened the text editor, so that's good progress for the day considering it's just 23:30 here. Might tab back into it like twice before bed, maybe even put down the first word that I will hastily delete immediately afterwards.

>> No.12457764

>>12457752
Ganbare, anon!
If you work hard, you might even name the file eventually!

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>>12457764
I already named it "Test01" because I'm deathly afraid of even pretending to do this seriously, let alone someone actually finding out that I'm seriously trying to be a writer. Obviously they could not react with anything but ridicule and scorn.

>> No.12457778

>>12457752
my fantasy novel has already ballooned into a trilogy and I've only written two chapters (one of which is more of a short prologue and the other one is shit and is going to be scrapped). I've put it on hiatus now because I'm scared of how much time I've sunk into it already.

>> No.12457783

I just got another short story published a week ago. I got query letters for a novel floating around, haven't heard anything yet. Have about 3 submissions for short stories floating around too, same with the query letters though, they've been sitting for a while and no word. That's generally good news though, the longer it takes, it usually means it'll get accepted, it means they're actually considering it.

Other than that, I got about 3 ideas for short stories, I have an entire novel I want to write, but I'm not doing shit. I quit my gay day job, so I could devote more time to writing, and for about a month I've just been sitting on my ass. Not sure what's wrong with me. I even came here because I wanted to avoid writing.

>> No.12457791

>>12457783
>That's generally good news though, the longer it takes, it usually means it'll get accepted, it means they're actually considering it
>tfw waiting on a couple submissions going on two months
don't tempt me like this anon, I've already assumed they are in the trashbin

>> No.12457816

>>12457707
I'm very sorry, but it's best if I stay anonymous. Most of the publishing industry in my country is run by social liberals/neolibs and they all think that posting on 4chan automatically makes you a white nationalist. I do want to share what I have written so far, but posting any names or identifying bits of information could endanger my chances of publication. The fact that I'm writing a history of white working class people only adds to the risk.

I'm aware that it's a very small chance that I'll be doxxed, but I only get one shot at this and I don't want to become the fodder for some social media activist's efforts to amass cultural capital and impress her peers.

>> No.12457819

What text editor should I use by the way? Been using Notepad++ for scraps and various stuff but obviously this isn't going to work for anything larger. Word?

>> No.12457825

>>12457819
I don't think Word is a text editor, it's a word processor. I write each chapter as a word document, but I'm almost sure this isn't the best way to do it

>> No.12457828

>>12457791
It's hard to make set rules for submissions, because everyone's system is different, but that's what I've found generally, the longer it takes then the more hopeful it is.

If you're getting rejections within like the same day you submitted, that means you did some seriously wrong, like your story was total shit, plus it wasn't formatted or your query or cover letter was incoherent.

If you get them in a couple weeks, that basically means your story just sucked and didn't make it past the intern.

More than a month is normal, even if you get rejected in this time that means they at least considered it. If it's been sitting for like four months or more that generally mean it's getting serious consideration.

Or it could just mean that particular place is really backed up, or they're just slow in general. But yeah, longer is better in general.

Two months isn't that unusual though, and I wouldn't read much into it.

>> No.12457840

>>12457816
well, also people on here tend to automatically dislike anybody who breaks anonymity. I've posted my stuff on here before, stuff that actually got published, and I got nothing but hate from here. I don't think it's because they really hated it, just hated the idea of me acting like a big shot.

>> No.12457851

>>12457372
No, it isn't. If you're on good terms with your family, its a useless vanity.

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>>12455112
>If your chapters contain too much explanation, I don't see how mixing in explanation could help.
It's the wrong amount of explanation and the wrong type of explanation in the wrong places.
The first two scenes do not need to contain a recent geopolitical history of the solar system but I put one in there because I was still fleshing out the universe when I was writing it.

But simply cutting that whole bit leaves the opening exposition-light. I worry that my first scene isn't very comprehensible without it.

This is the first 500 words of the book. Anyone care to tell me if they get lost...?

>> No.12457892

>>12457372
Its extremely hateful and shows a total lack of filial piety and is a concession to hell world's vivisection of the kin network. Mom and dad need you so they don't get abused by subhuman second gen immigrant ungulates and become demented inside locationless, historyless prison cells accompanied only by the smell of lysol and their own feces. You are shameful for leaving them and the boomers are aborted souls, truly demented for pushing out their brood.

>> No.12457926

>>12455986
>Neologisms, or rare words for that matter, should be used sparingly in a context where you are certain the word will be intuitively understood. Nobody wants to decode blocky latinate morphemes while reading an already blocky text.

I tend to agree. You are only allowed 1 word per 100 pages that the reader is expected to actually 'learn.' Anything else has to be clear by context or root words or nonessential enough that nothing in the scene breaks if they don't get it.

For example: "Dresdisis." (The separation of society into stratum after traumatic relocation -- also known as the Zeus's Frogs effect.) If you need to refer to this AGAIN AND AGAIN then you need to teach the audience the word for it. But if it only comes up 6 times you are probably better off explaining ti each time.
And for gods sake -- keep referring to the frogs so that the reader is reminded what that word means!

>> No.12457944

>>12457892
WHITE HOT PURPLE PROSE!

>> No.12457965

Writing a novel I've been working on for a while. Trying getting an outline but I can't dream up a decent plot to move things forward, so I've decided to just go with the next best thing I could think of...
I'm all discombobulated.

>> No.12458083

>>12457965
Keep at it. Last time I was stuck I eventually ended up writing a story about telekinetic celery.
(and it was good damnit!)

>> No.12458098

>>12455749
Obviously. Camus, Heidegger, those you mentioned, Plato, and many others have been able to marry art and philosophy. It only requires that you have both a keen philosophical insight and the artistic sensitivity to express it evocatively. Don't listen to those unknowing about your aspirations, succeed or fail without their input.

>> No.12458106

>>12457892
b a s e d
fuck boomers and fuck jannies

>> No.12458161

>>12455962
>It's to convey that her cheeks are being punctured with a smile, i.e. she's spreading her lips

That's grotesque and horrifying. Puncture is a violent word, just think of the sound of it. Sound is incredibly important to meaning. Consider that your description calls to mind a mother with no mouth having a smile punched into her face with something sharp. Further, where are mouths? My mouth certainly isn't on my cheeks, it's under my nose and between my lips. Honestly, it'd be an interesting artistic choice if you were writing an unsettling bit of poetry or a horror story, but in this context?

>> No.12458164

>>12454861
It sounds super cringy but basically im working on a light novel about pair of students dropping out of a magic college to just adventure. They learn slowly that adventuring isnt what its out to be. They also stumble across a conspiracy to over throw the central kingdom and group up with a famous adventurer group. Im like 40% done with it. Im writing in a gay german fashion vampire right now. I wanna try to subvert expectations so i write bad guys to be scary and threatening but are actually pathetic like how the vampire is actually just a guy that has a strange fashion sense and never goes out into the sun and loves fruit punch and is just an incel.

>> No.12458215

>>12458161
The thought would be that she’s creating dimples on her cheeks, i. e., puncturing.

>> No.12458253

>>12455141
It was pretty good marketing.

>> No.12458328

>>12456808
People can take it as a bit of both
It's kinda just a scientific(I'm a physicist) atheist thing which rejects nihilism, but isn't truly atheist. I frequently refer to the universe and reality itself as god, and how life is the beginning of the construction of a brain for the universe with the rise of intelligent life being equivalent to god starting to awaken. Each intelligent individual acts like a complex neuron of gods brain, and therefore everyone can be considered god despite god being a singular thing we are all part of. There is an inherent purpose to life with the philosophy which is to one day "Awaken" and allow for the brain to control the body, if the intelligence of our universe wishes something to be the body will obey, which is done via greater scientific and technological advancements. It gets a bit more complex with how people should live their lives but can be summed up as accepting human nature, if you try to act like something you are not and reject what you are you become nothing, but at the same time we should try and control ourselves limiting(Not necessarily banning) degenerate behaviors while supporting positive ones to drive us in the direction of creating a civilization and becoming beings worthy and capable of being a god.

>> No.12458379

>>12457881
It's perfectly comprehensible. If anything it's too explicitly expositiony for my tastes. I also get a bit annoyed at the constant italics for emphasis, even more so when they're in the same passage as italics for another language. The dialogue would come off fine, possibly better for the sake of dry humor, without doing that imo.

>> No.12458399

>>12457881
I'm not lost at all. It's actually perfectly solid until
>the Y'm made a cynical sound. She knew how Manuel had scored this sweet internship. . .
That's completely too much information for the opening salvo. You don't need to tell us even a simple minority of your setting in the first few hundred words.

I'd also cut the third-person narrative that sounds like first-person. It's boring to read
>but CHARACTER had studied hard to qualify!
Give us a scene where the character is studying their ass off, a scene where they are sweating bullets during some kind of exam, and a scene where they are seeing their results and realize they managed to pass (or something similar). The point is to show, not tell. Writing something explicit like, "The character studied hard," is not as interesting as even some dull, played-out montage. This doesn't have to come at the beginning of the book. You can put this stuff throughout the story. If you feel like this level of character exposition isn't necessary, then don't bother to even include a single one-liner about it. If its useless to the story, its useless no matter how brief it is. On the same subject, stop telling the audience how they should read the inflections the character would make. Change it to first-person if you want the character talking to us; use third-person if you want the audience to voice the story their own way. Third-person and first-person both have different uses and different styles; don't mix them just because lmao, or really for any reason whatsoever unless you want to make some impenetrable artistic endeavor.

You've identified your problems pretty well - too much explanation, and explanation in the wrong places. Space this kind of stuff out. It's not exactly like readers of sci-fi expect their books to be short or anything.

>> No.12458402

>>12458098
True. Thanks anon. I don't know if I could be eloquent though, to be honest. But it's certainly an aspiration.

>>12456701
Sadly I'm probably even worse, anon. Yet I am foolish and want to write in such a style anyway.

>> No.12458412

>>12457892
Absolutely based and most assuredly redpilled

>> No.12458437

>>12457851
>being independent is a useless vanity
Ultimate cringe. I cringed so hard my skull cracked.

>> No.12458457

>>12457892
What does filial piety have to say about my parents being bitter cunts that make everyone around them miserable
Would absolutely off myself if I had to live with them full-time again, shit's not happening

>> No.12458469

>>12457892
You are so fucking stupid.
There's nothing wrong with moving back in with your parents (or moving them in with you) when they are in their waning years of life. There is something drastically destructive to both individuals and society when literally no one is willing to move out of mommy and daddy's basement. If we lived in some sort of communal society like indigenous tribes of South America, it wouldn't be so bad, but we fucking don't - we live in a world where we need people who can function on their own, live on their own, and be independent without a permanent umbilical cord.

Even on the subject of taking care of your parents in their waning years, there are dozens upon dozens of medical conditions that can arise during a person's senior years that you cannot provide the necessary care for unless you are a literal doctor or nurse. Sometimes, a live-in nurse isn't even an option. There are hundreds of thousands of elderly persons not receiving the necessary end-of-life care that could extend their years in comfort or prevent unnecessarily painful deaths in developed nations alone. You're essentially condemning these people to what amounts to abuse because you have some asinine, sententious perspective about familial piety.

>> No.12458512

>>12458083
appreciate the encouragement anon.

>> No.12458515

>>12454861
I'm trying to build a poem from 8 pages of stream of consciousness drivel I worte when I came back home drunk as fuck a month ago. There was some potential but I guess it's going to be shit and I'm going to dismiss it.

>> No.12458521

>>12458469
Why do people need to buy a house instead of living in their parents houses? I knew a bunch of wealthy Sikh people in Toronto and they literally all had 3 generations living in one house. When you got married your spouse just moved in

>> No.12458622

>>12454861
I'm outlining a story that I had in a dream. It's set in the 2050s, stars a 17 year old camwhore and her 2 "friends." It's supposed to be about my personal distaste with the normalization of pedophilia and general increase of degeneracy with the last few years, but somewhat turned up to 11.

>> No.12458852

How does one effectively characterize inanimate objects?
I have two characters who are just objects, nothing fantastical about them, but I don't know how to make that feel right. Do you just make them act like any other character, only limiting them in what they can do physically?

>> No.12458877

>>12458852
Don't write a stupid novelty plot like this

>> No.12458895

>>12458877
What do you mean? Its a serious novel.
Is there an issue with inanimate objects as characters?

>> No.12458943

>>12454861
me and a friend of mine translated into spanish 1994's "cyberpositive" text by nick land and sadie plant. Maybe we are going to make some fanzines with it

>> No.12458969

>>12458852
Read The Life and Adventures of Shed Number XII by Victor Pelevin. I can't find a pdf of it with a quick search, but it's in a collection called "4 by Pelevin."
>>12458877
It can work, rarely, but only if he's doing something legitimately interesting with it. Hopefully he is.

>> No.12459743

>>12457825
Word is a prepress program. Don't let Microsoft fool you into thinking it is suitable to write in.
You CAN write in Word, but you can write in lots of things.
Word hasn't been properly suited for writing since 1997.

>> No.12459776

>>12458379
>It's perfectly comprehensible. If anything it's too explicitly expositiony for my tastes.
Well that is good. Not ever doing a 'set the scene' section worried me.

>I also get a bit annoyed at the constant italics for emphasis, even more so when they're in the same passage as italics for another language.
I will probably drop most of those. They go in when I am writing and most come out when I am editing. Thanks for reminding me that I use italics and semicolons too often. ;)

>>12458399
>That's completely too much information for the opening salvo. You don't need to tell us even a simple minority of your setting in the first few hundred words.
Skip on the agricolony stuff, just 'offworld.' Less repetition -- the "customer service from hell" setting comes across fine.
The psychic stuff needs to go in there though -- it is needed for the next scene.

>You've identified your problems pretty well - too much explanation, and explanation in the wrong places.
Ironically this is the version AFTER stripping out the exposition dumps. But since both of you say the scene is very clearly set I can cut back even further.

Yay! I am satisfied with this as a second draft op the opening scene. I shall add a note to tighten and de-italicise for the third draft.

Thanks you guys, really helpful!

>> No.12459786

>>12458969
>Read The Life and Adventures of Shed Number XII by Victor Pelevin.
Thanks anon, that was interesting. Seems like in some ways I'm following a similar line of thought to Pelevin. Gives me a bit more food for thought to work with. I thought it was interesting that these objects seem to reincarnate and their natures were based on their functions. Its almost obvious that this is a good method of characterization, but it didn't occur to me, even though I was actually doing it to some extent.
Here's a link a PDF I found if anyone else wants to read, its on page 14: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/rmhs/departments/english/English%209and%209%20Honors%20Summer%20Reading.pdf

>> No.12459787

>>12458622
By contrast, the secondary lead in my story has been a child prostitute since he was 11.

I SHALL BALANCE OUT YOUR COUNTER-DEGENERACY WITH UNDERWATER UNDERAGE MAKEOUTS AND SEX SCENES! (Non-explicit ones. Gotta be kindle-friendly.)

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>>12457892
holy shit maybe the most based post ive ever witnessed on /lit/. only tough part about living with the ‘rents is i have to go buy rum while mom isnt home to avoid getting yelled at

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>>12459790
What are based?

>> No.12460019

I’m writing 5 short stories for a school project. The theme is the history of the treatment of mental illness, and each story will be written in a style that sort of matches the situation. The first story is a transcript of an oral history set in the Stone Age. It’s about a weirdo who is cured by getting a big hole punched in his skull. The late 1800’s-early 1900’s one will probably be made up of diary entries by a hysterical woman and session notes from a psychotherapist. She will probably die in a botched lobotomy. I have more ideas, but they aren’t as fleshed our; I’m still in the research phase.

>> No.12460326

>>12457094
>>12457106
Horrible fucking trash man, I'm sorry /lit/izens encouraged you to indulge this bad habit. Please get serious about art.

>> No.12460333

>>12457777
Anon, maybe if you are afraid that people will judge you for being a serious writer you should write about serious things. Do not hesitate and do not hold back sincerity. Your problem seems common among lots of art these days. As if people are holdig back their true feelings. But maybe try a short story if you have never written before.

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>>12454861
I've now had an entire week to compose a 10-line poem in blank verse with an emblem volta, and I'm still stuck in the planning stages. Fuck my autism for making me have to diagram and use up at least ten pages of notes just to write a simple poem.

Here's the real conundrum, boys:
It's been 24 hours since I've beaten the shit outta my dick. Should I do the deed now and ride the wave of post-cum clarity for the remaining eight hours? Or should I wait until I get stuck or slow down in progress and then use post-cum clarity as a wake-me-up?

>> No.12460404
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How do you come up with ideas of what to write? When I do and I piece them together I like what I make, but I come up with a poem or short story every few months, at most, and the rest of the time I'm just blank. I can never sit down at the same time every day and write for an hour, I just have long periods of inactivity, then I think of something and manically drop my whole life to work on it for two days.
How do I get more consistency and, more importantly, find ideas, more things I want to write about? Are there exercises that help any of you? Writing brief sketches about things, etc?
Pic unrelated but I just finished it, what do you think

>> No.12460487

>>12460366
Beating my dick

The skin sags and wrestles with no one else
but pleasure, measured in slower fumes
within the sensation. Time is ancient
in evolving forms seeking the nicest touch
of the hand, against the dick's curving spine.

What memory of moment shall come after living?
The spray of lights every dreamer entrances
is a seashell in a storm of itself.
The real is not here. Merely the rhythms
of what shall go on, in five-thousand years.

>> No.12460493

>>12460404
Read enough books and you'll get enough ideas. Ideas don't come from nowhere.

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>>12460493
I read every day. I just finished The New York Trilogy, now I'm on pic related. The beginning is slow because it's about a normal boring man going through a sudden tumultuous downfall, but I'm just starting to get to the point where his normal life is straining, so things are getting more interesting.

>> No.12460506

>>12460497
Also read more history. Even Shakespeare filled out historical facts with his own style in many of his plays. You can come up with a story from any fact or experience.

>> No.12460562

>>12460506
That's a good idea. Thanks anon.

>> No.12460589

>>12460487
For each foot that isn't iambic, my professor will deduct 10 points out of a hundred available. Your poem is already in the negatives, Anon. Nonetheless, I still like it, and I'm slightly jealous that you just put that together in less than an hour.

>> No.12461268

>>12460326
Drink bleach, fagit

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>>12458457
He likely considers that a consequence of boomer lifestyle, which is driving young people to push themselves out. That is a valid reason to leave. If you have a good family, it isn't.
>>12458469
>There is something drastically destructive to both individuals and society when literally no one is willing to move out of mommy and daddy's basement
It is better for society as demand for rent and housing is decreased, making it more affordable, for people who actually need these resources whenever they decide to build a business or start their own families.
It also enables a person to save until he has money to purchase a property asset instead of throwing money away on rent. Decisions to move out will be done on the basis of marriage rather than "be your own person, bro".
>If we lived in some sort of communal society like indigenous tribes of South America, it wouldn't be so bad, but we fucking don't - we live in a world where we need people who can function on their own, live on their own, and be independent without a permanent umbilical cord.
Pride. In the word's of Pope Benedict:
"He was sent by God the Father to save us above all from the evil deeply rooted in man and in history: the evil of separation from God, the prideful presumption of being self-sufficient, of trying to compete with God and to take his place, to decide what is good and evil, to be the master of life and death (cf. Gen 3:1-7). This is the great evil, the great sin, from which we human beings cannot save ourselves unless we rely on God’s help, unless we cry out to him: “Veni ad salvandum nos! – Come to save us!”"
>Even on the subject of taking care of your parents in their waning years, there are dozens upon dozens of medical conditions that can arise during a person's senior years that you cannot provide the necessary care for unless you are a literal doctor or nurse.
False. If that is the case, it's better to just talk to them out of care and provide comfort for their final days. A life isn't measured in years, and this is another prideful presumption that you're "helping them" by locking them up to spend the another few years or God forbid, decade in miserable place with death all around them and where they are treated like invalids.
>There are hundreds of thousands of elderly persons not receiving the necessary end-of-life care that could extend their years in comfort or prevent unnecessarily painful deaths in developed nations alone.
See the two former answers. You're trying to be a master over life and death. Even from a completely irreligious standpoint, this is immoral and against nature, considering it deprives resources from their progeny and your own off-spring, and ultimately is an empty gesture to "feel good" about yourself despite carting your parents off to some single room facility where they'll live out the rest of their days in misery.

>> No.12462375

>>12460487
It is such a bad addiction.

>> No.12462383

How do you guys outline?

>> No.12462484

>>12455962
>At the time, I was thinking of it being active: it's not currently drafty, but is becoming draftier, more chilly, hence fucking chilling and drafting.
Give up on writing.

>> No.12462681

>>12459743
What other program do you recommend?

>> No.12462946

>>12454873
That's wasteful endeavor. No one will ever use a 50ae for any practical use the pistol will always be too large, they'll use 357, 44mag, and 10mm if they want a large caliber pistol. A design for non-practical use (range toy) already exists in the form of the desert eagle. Plus anything you make will cost more to manufacture and by extention cost more to buy, people will buy the more inexpensive desert eagle before your pistol. Also, nobody buys a 50ae pistol because they want light recoil.

>> No.12463730
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12463730

Currently worldbuilding for a series of RPGs spanning centuries that I'll be solo deving for the next couple of years as a fun side project. You and your party get to travel around in your very own buggy and kill gnolls and people in fun ways.

>> No.12463904

>The stench of blood stung my nostrils as I waded through the dark mud, towards the flickering light ahead. In an attempt to divert my mind from the ropes digging into my shoulders, I turned to the large figure walking beside me.
>”This is not your first hunt, I take it?” I asked.
>”I’ve had my fair share, of many different species Yes, including men.” he added, predicting my next question.
Working on a fantasy novel, this a good enough level? Obviously this is the first draft so it's likely to change a lot, but the general level of writing is this, I could do much fancier prose but I feel like it would get in the way of both the writer and the reader.

>> No.12463973

It began as a Satirical Tourism Board article based on an idea of a grand subterranean city that was built under my small, middle England town during the Victorian era, which has since fallen into the same sorry state as much of middle England.

Not sure what tone I want to go with. Depends if I keep it up as a tourism board article, or if I write a disdainful travelogue. The draft is inconsistent so far. My main goal is to get laughs: The main joke is in comparing the magic of Victorian England with the decay of modern Britain.

This is the 1st draft

The City of Chesterfield descends some 2 miles beneath the surface, with a population of 260,000, roughly half that of Sheffield, its neighbouring city. Much like Sheffield, there is no sunlight. The city was lit by a vast network of tunnels and mirrors, which reflected sunlight from across the district, focusing it into the Chesterfield Gem, a naturally formed 30-foot diameter crystal which diffused light across the city. Following cuts to local council funding in 2009 however, Derbyshire County Council replaced the outdated Victorian system with environmentally friendly LED lights. During construction, the Gem was protected by scaffolding fixed into the roof of the city. The scaffolding remains to this day, a testament to future-proofing.

Chesterfield owes much to George Stephenson, the Father of Railways. Stephenson lived in Chesterfield for 10 years, overlooking his nearby business from the town. It was during excavations at his lime quarry in Crich that he thought up his idea of excavating the area beneath Chesterfield town. Upon confirmation that their property rights descended ‘down to hell’, the people of Chesterfield were happy for Stephenson’s project to proceed. In a just eight years, the work was completed and the City of Chesterfield was born.

>> No.12464030

>>12455290
I was thinking of this myself, may we see an extract?

>>12459776
I would consider less explicit methods of showing the character's history. The Empath stuff could be revealed by the character 'feeling' how the alien felt. Or by using it to relate to the alien, which could escalate the conflict.

The scene doesn't really go anywhere, so that could be why it feels leaden. The character goes into a room, exposition is dumped, then he goes back into that room again.

>> No.12464046

>>12454861
I’m writing up random shit for my autistic worldbuilding setting. It’s really fun but also set up in a way that’s hard to quickly explain. It’s dark but comfy. Everyone is autistic and shoes were never invented. It’s an evil-themed world but filled with good people, wholesome happenings and beautiful things.

>> No.12464485

>>12462484
Explain the error in my reasoning.

>> No.12464861

>>12459743
Open Office. iAWriter. 4thewords.

>> No.12464953

>>12464485
Not him, but don't listen to him. Keep writing as long as it's what you want to do.

As for his note, the thought is that draftiness is a binary, an adjective. A home is either drafty or it's not. The degree to which it is drafty is a modifier on "drafty" (e.g. "rather drafty, very drafty"). Think of the idea of an intensifying rain. You wouldn't say it's 'raining' to express that idea, you'd probably say something like "The rain intensified from a drizzle to a downpour".

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>>12454861
I'm back to writing Warhammer fanfiction that no one will ever read. Pic related.

No, I don't know why either.

>> No.12465370

>>12454861
Middle Grade historical fiction

>> No.12465398

>>12462383
My process has changed so many times I can't even remember... but currently I'm using a screenplay outline to plot the basic structure of a novel.

Hook
Inciting incident (15 min)
Plot point one (30 min)
Midpoint (60 min)
Plot point two (90 min)
Climax
Resolution

Screenplay books are fantastic for anyone writing fiction.

>> No.12465404

I am writing an existentialist novel about a man who has a head of a fish but is still a functioning member of human society. He doesn’t understand societal rules and things of that nature, and forms a strong hatred for humans (and the human aspects of himself) and decides to try and become a fish fully, but since magic is not real and that is impossible, he ____________ and the story ends.

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>>12454861
I want to write a sci-fi story about a flooded earth
Right now I’m trying create a map of earth if the sea level was 1000 feet higher. I cannot find any good way to do this and it’s driving me mad. Google earth was my first bet, where I tried to add a layer of blue 1000ft above sea level, but WHEN I ZOOM OUT EVEN A BIT IT VANISHES

>> No.12465426

>>12454861
A battlefield Gothic Fanfic

>> No.12465510

>>12462946
>.357
>big bore
noguns spotted

>> No.12465528

>>12465426
I'm guessing you mean Battlefleet Gothic - unless you're doing a Battlefield/Warhammer crossover.

I'm >>12465172 btw

>>12465423
Why a thousand feet specifically? There must be plenty of 'what if global warming melts ALL the ice caps?' maps out there. Why not just use one of them?

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>>12465528
This is a map of 300 ft, which is the highest I’ve seen yet. The east coast is gone but that’s about it. I’d like to explore as much of sunken America as possible

>> No.12465616

>>12454861
Getting back into writing after a long time. Doing 500 minimum words per day, anything at all. Just trying to cultivate discipline. So far so good.

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>>12465593
On second thought maybe that’s more than enough. This seems cool

>> No.12466231

>>12465677
most of the actual buildings in manhatten would still have large sections above water if the sealevel rise was only 100ft

>> No.12466273

>>12456727
Are you a goy?

>> No.12466297

>>12458622
Make her 13.

>> No.12466415

>>12460404
>How do you come up with ideas of what to write?
Honestly, some story ideas can take weeks of rumination. Others come fully formed.
I plot a bit like lego bricks -- I can develop a story idea with a character, backstory, or even an event that ends up just not working. Then I can come back to it years later and slot that pre-assembled element into another story.

Sometimes literal brainstorming and mind-mapping helps. Other times I roll a d64 and consult the iChing for imagery or relationships.

I have too many ideas I could be writing about. Winnowing them down to something I _will_ write about it the hard part.

>> No.12467780

>>12465423
So... waterworld?

>> No.12468127

>>12464953
>The degree to which it is drafty is a modifier on "drafty" (e.g. "rather drafty, very drafty").
While that may be true, you're omitting the comparative and superlative forms of that word. Drafty, or any adjective for that matter (though I'm sure there are exceptions), express a static quality unless modified by adverbial qualifiers like those you mentioned.
>A home is either drafty or it's not.
It can be more or less drafty given certain information, e.g., temporal, "it's draftier now than an hour ago". And that's the idea I'm trying to convey, that it's not only drafty/chilly but getting draftier/chillier. I want to say this:
>It's becoming draftier/chillier (active)
Not
>It's drafty/chilly (static)
or
It's becoming drafty/chilly (active but semantically distinct from the first)
And I want to say this without making it a new sentence, and going "oh, btw, it's getting draftier in the room". I'm trying to compact the idea as briefly as possible.

>> No.12468260

>>12468127
does the idea of the room becoming draftier mean something significant? if not you might as well scrap it as it obviously isn't going over well with readers. if so, find another way to construct that sentence because it's awkward and takes the reader from the story

>> No.12468268

>>12467780
... what’s waterworld

>> No.12468312

>>12468127
>becoming draftier
>drafting

Yet somehow you committed the ultimate stupidity by changing it into a verb that has a completely different and more famous semantic connotation (drafting cards) so that it becomes harder to process your original intention.

The lesson here is you aren't good enough to play around with words, so learn to write simply and stop trying to defend your shitty story throughout this thread when so many other people have tried to tell you your writing sucks big fat donkey balls. The aim of writing is communication, not autistic solipsism you stubborn fucking maggot. If you want to masturbate for an audience of one, go jerk off and smear your dickmilk on a blank piece of paper, then wallow in it like the cunt you are. Thankfully I'm certain no editor will ever be willing to give your dreck even one ounce of their attention, so lapse into obscurity shitface, and take your bloody feces with you.

>> No.12468322

>>12465423
Why not just used the map of the earth from the opening scene of water world?

>> No.12468355

>>12468260
Fair enough.

>>12468312
It's not a verb. It's participle acting as an adjective. I suggest you learn some grammar. Here's an example:
>The SWEATING man
Is that a verb or an adjective there?

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>>12468355
drafting literally is a verb though, I've never heard it used as an adjective

>> No.12468415

>>12468355
The point is you pulling words out of their normal lexical context you shitting cow. Or can you only blow farts from that drafting mouth-hole of yours?

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>>12468381
Yes, and I get that, but just because it hasn't been used in such way doesn't preclude it from being used that way, only for the simple fact that you can use verbs in the progressive aspect/tense (-ing) as adjectives. The only problem is that it can be jarring for people There's four principal forms a verb can take:
Infinitive: (To) see
Past: Saw
Past Participle: Seen
Present Participle: Seeing

The present participle can act in three ways:
1. Verb (He is seeing someone)
2. Adjective (The seeing stone)
3. Noun (Seeing him again brought back memories)

>>12468415
And? You sound very frustrated, anon.
>Or can you only blow farts from that drafting mouth-hole of yours?
Anon, it's text. I'm not talking to you, let alone farting from my mouth at you.

>> No.12468482

>>12468461
>Adjective (The seeing stone)
as in the stone that sees
>drafting room
as in the room that drafts
still doesn't quite capture your idea of the room getting more drafty than it was before. it makes you sound esl, even if it was a consious choice

>> No.12468492

>>12468461
Sadly, I don't even think it can be called text.

>> No.12468525

>>12454978
elaborate on that anon, sounds interesting

>> No.12468543

>>12468482
>seeing stone
I'm being figurative.
>still doesn't quite capture your idea of the room getting more drafty than it was before. it makes you sound esl, even if it was a consious choice
And that's why in the pastebin, I put "("chilling")" after it as a more appropriate substitution to express that idea. But the more irate anon is right. We've been dealing with the drafting discussion far too long.

>>12468492
Sadly, I don't even think your post can be called a retort.

>> No.12468562

>>12468525
That does sound really interesting actually.

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>>12465510
I did say large caliber, I should have said powerful. Anyway I didn't mean to shit on your idea, it's just that if I had the ability to design firearms I'd make something more practical.

>> No.12468597

>>12468268
It's gonna be really sad if this isn't bait.

>> No.12468602

>>12468322
What the fuck is water world

>> No.12468605

A series of absurd essays about all kinds of trees. I'm finishing one about the fact that lightning strikes are the roots of sky-trees and another about the the joys of cultivating little trees in your stomach by ingesting seeds.

>> No.12468607

>>12468543
You're right. A retort implies an intelligent adversary, and you seem to be failing that criteria miserably. How many times did you take the Turing test numbskull?

>> No.12468609

who the fuck is Kevin Costner

>> No.12468623

>>12468605
and that trees name? Gregory Berrycone

>> No.12468628

>>12468607
So why haven't you said anything intelligent yet?

>> No.12468666

>>12468628
Trust a maggot to be unable to process semantic cues.

>> No.12468806

>>12468562
I wasn't being sarcastic though, /lit/'s consensus on Evangelion seems to be declining over the years, but I'm still a huge fan of the series

>> No.12468818

>>12468666
You haven't said anything valuable; your asshole is just gaping and shitting all over the place and making a mess for everyone. And it's not that I don't recognize semantic cues. I just don't care. Language is man's servant, and I'll break its words into whatever shape I wish to express what I want so long as there is a genealogy between them, and I'll smuggle in whatever new ones that can do that job better, and I'll birth them from my noggin if I so need to. Again I really don't understand why you're so anally ravaged by the fact that I'm willing to stand up for my lexical decisions, as extremely unconventional as they are. Now did I want to have a several post discussion about "drafting", no, but I'm not going to be told it's outright wrong when words can take on new meanings that don't match their original. But I'll keep playing tennis with you until this thread maxes out, or until I get bored.
P.S. work on your vocatives/, anon/.

>> No.12468899

First novel, currently at 67,000 words

Its YA stuff that /lit/ would hate but im enjoying working on it and very proud of myself for actually making it this far

>> No.12469384

>>12468818
>Language is man's servant, and I'll break its words into whatever shape I wish to express what I want so long as there is a genealogy between them, and I'll smuggle in whatever new ones that can do that job better, and I'll birth them from my noggin if I so need to.

It is a testament to how diseased a mind can become, that you are willing to write the above sentence in relation to the sheer pultridity of the initial work you posted. Language is not your servant anon, but you are its bitch. I hope you did not waste many years on writing because I would be ashamed if, after all that practice, my writing remained as embarassingly unimaginative and clunky as yours. You are a prime example of why Chomskian pencil-pushing LARPers should never be allowed entry into the estate of Literature. And I will never believe that the gears of your noggin could ever produce or birth anything new, nor could you smuggle anything interesting through any one of Literature's many backdoors, simply because you have displayed no understanding of what creation or innovation actually entails. You are nothing but a rulebook with embarassing dreams. Or horseshit anon.


But the good thing is that reality comes with its own waste disposal mechanism, otherwise known as time. I hope you don't spend too much time dallying about with your shitty writing before regret cruelly slaps you in the face. If, by happenstance, you actually develop that ever elusive thing known as talent in the following years, good for you. I will be the first to applaud from the peanut gallery. Not counting on it though.

Nonetheless, you have been an extremely amusing monkey to spectate over the whole thread. I'll spare the tennis since you don't even have a racket in the first place. The saddest thing is that you don't realize it.

Toodles, anon.

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>>12469384
>when the pasta is fresh

>> No.12469435

>>12469384
This whole chain has been a delight to read.

Two awful, awful people.

>> No.12469477

A short story about the collapse of a mysterious bridge in the Costa Rican Jungle, a group of indigenous people performing a rite of human sacrifice, and an anthropologist recording the ceremony with the help of an ex-surfer videographer.

>> No.12469489

>>12468899
Making it that far into anything is commendable. Good for you, man

>> No.12469508

>>12468525
I'm writing it in a Q & A format, one character having watched the show and the other knowing nothing whatsoever about anime. Also I am going shot-by-shot, from the title sequence to the credits of all 26 episodes and EoE.

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What software do I use to write this shit? I can't be arsed torrenting Word, and while FocusWriter seems really nice, it lacks spellcheck, and has no outlining features.

>> No.12469919

Currently writing Gregory Berrycone fanfic.

>> No.12470014

>>12469863
I use Singular Writer. Software like singular writer/focuswriter etc are better at handling something like a novel, at least in the first draft stages. Prefer the notes/comments feature of Word though.

>> No.12470829

I would like to write a series of book reviews for books that don't really exist.

>> No.12470892

>>12455087
What’s you’re philosophy about? Is it some ethics or ontology or something political?

>> No.12470900

the destruction of western civilization

>> No.12471395

>>12469863
I use libreoffice. It’s pretty good.

>> No.12471586

>>12463973
I like this! It reads dry funny, up my alley

>> No.12471666

>>12457892
based

>> No.12471839

>>12469384
>Chomskian
How am I Chomskian? Or are you just throwing an eponym of a linguist as an insult hoping it sticks?
>Creation and innovation
Neither of which are always successful on the first attempt. Did you think the lightbulb was made in a single day or was it process of failure and refinement? Now by the sheer fact that I'm willing to break rules indicates quite the opposite of me being a simple rulebook while you're stuck in the confines of literary convention and language. If anything, I'm far more inventive you vis a vis language, perhaps not literature though.
>I'll spare the tennis since you don't even have a racket in the first place.
Guess that means I've been doing pretty good with my hands then.
>, anon
You missed a few in your post.

>>12468806
Anon, I agree with you, depending on what thesis is though.

>>12469435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Km7CSBIsIA&frags=pl%2Cwn [Embed]

>> No.12472704

>>12469863
just get word. you will have saved time in the end by biting the bullet.

>> No.12472899

I'm writing an erotic fantasy book about a minotaur who bangs elf maidens, and he's going to have a wimpy human wizard side-kick guy so the reader can self insert while the human has sex with all kinds of monsterous females; probably because minotaur on other monster sex is too weird.

I've wanted to write some fun shit like this for a long time, but I've never written a book before. Can't wait for it to not sell and not be good.

>> No.12473006

>>12458328
Yeah, that's Tsiolkovsky. Read "The Will of the Universe. The Unknown Intelligence" (1928).
It's so hard to come up with new stuff, huh?

>> No.12473022

>>12454861
I'm working on a codex/cheat sheet for argumentation and criticism as /lit/ OC right now, it's nothing super long but it does distill the different modalities an argument can take. I'll make a thread for it when it's done.

>> No.12473816

my dairy desu, desu.

>> No.12473915

Started about a week ago, now at 30k words (target 80k.) feels comfy man. decided not to kill off 3 of the characters I was going to, tweaked the plot around. think it's good now and I can proceed.
This is the sixth novel I've written so it's not babby first.
Not sure if it's edgy to have the main character get the shit beaten out of him all the time, since it can be healed with magic easily. Anyway I decided on all the character development arcs and everything is wrapping up nicely.
>>12469863
Microshit is bloated garbage that will crash on a novel length document. Use libreoffice. >>12465423
flooded stuff is /comfy/.

>> No.12474016

>>12454861
Journal entries for what my character is experiencing in my weekly DnD game. Feels like it gives the game a bit more depth since I write it from my character's perspective.

>> No.12474353

>>12471586
thanks anon

>> No.12474405

>>12454861

Trying to start a sword and sorcery fantasy that's a little outside of Tolkien's shadow.

Having trouble finding inspiration though. The Dragonlance series comes to mind but I read them a long time ago and should probably double check

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>>12473915
>Use libreoffice
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HAHAHAHAHA
HHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHA
WEW
HHAHAHAHA

ENJOY HAVING YOUR FUCKING BOOK DESTROYED

>>>/g/69517687

>>>/g/69517687

Literally the most pleb tier of all word processors. You must be too poor to afford MS office or too stupid to pirate it. Either way, you're retarded for suggesting this. You're better off using a type writer than that open source garbage.

>> No.12474426

>>12474423
I have used libreoffice for years and never experienced that

>> No.12474440

>>12474426
Why take the chance?
Libreoffice is inferior in every way to MS Word.

>> No.12474458

WHY THE FUCK DO EDITORS HAVE TO DO SOME FUCKING EDIT ON MY FUCKING WRITTEN WORK WITHOUT INFORMING ME. YES I PUT THE LINE BREAK THERE FOR A REASON, YES THE ITALICS THERE HAS A STRICT INTERNAL PURPOSE. STOP TOUCHING MY FUCKING BABY THAT I TOILED OVER FOR MONTHS YOU FUCKING BITCH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

sorry i just needed to vent bros. While I understand they're doing their job, I really hate it when editors try to touch my work without informing me

>> No.12474467

>>12474440
yeah but if I cared enough to torrent word I would just learn latex or vmac or some shit instead. word is no better than libreoffice

>> No.12474470

>>12474458
I don't think editors do that, you are probably using a processor

>> No.12474542

>>12474470
>you are probably using a processor
Sorry, what do you mean?

>> No.12474676

>>12474458
Because if the editor doesn't do that then he'll get yelled at by her boss because your special line break or clever use of punctuation doesn't conform to the ass-backwards style guide that the publisher adopted back in 2004 and demands that everyone abide by even though it was written in five days by a sleep-deprived intern pulling back-to-back all-nighters to finish his contract he has been procrastinating on for the past month

>> No.12475239

Working on an rpg maker game and also decided to try to enter a poetry contest at my uni

>> No.12476388

>>12454861
A fantasy world with a duo o MC, man and lady. They will slowly get in love while fighting "villain of the month". Theres also a system of magic that tries to be kind of original.

>> No.12477838

>>12474458
they have to justify their existences some way or another

>> No.12478114

Currently busy applying the final touches on my essay on the topic of 'traps'. Overall, it's a pretty good and I'm proud of it. The goal is to record myself, watch +30 anime for clips, edit it all into a video and release it on youtube by next month. It'll be the best essay of that topic on the internet, like all my other scripts/videos.
I enjoy writing these essays because it allows me to be philosophical on silly concepts.
Link if anyone is interested.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18oxbVAA2zRmna2RZAvWxjrSNrhRKprEwGetxa4VH9sA/edit?usp=sharing

>> No.12478134

>>12468586
It's mainly for fun. I've built a few handguns before and I want something that's mentally and physically challenging