/lit/ - Literature

>>12464071
God wrote nice things about women

>>12464071
Nietzsche said they could be better than men if they stopped leaning on their sexuality as influence to gain respect.

yeah, me.

>>12464071
Camus liked them.

>>12464071
Is there one who had a positive opinion about males?

>>12464071
>inb4 the goalposts narrow to 5 continentals and the greeks

>>12464071
Every feminist philosopher which are plenty.

>>12464110
>inb4 the entire concept of women gets deconstructed down to the x chromosome being superior for its capability to reproduce

>>12464120
Ariel Levy would like to have a bittersweet word with you

>>12464084
If your grandmother had wheels she'd be a bus.
The sun could be the moon if it wasn't the sun.
And Nietzsche could have been powerful if he wasn't a cuck.
Imagine calling someone a philosopher while having such shit-tier arguments.

>>12464126
What does she say?

>>12464137
yeah this whole 'cuck' thing is a really big deal to men. I guess it really is all about us.

Shopes

>>12464071
John Stuart Mill seems the obvious answer to that question

>>12464150
Turn your fucking trip off you faggot

>>12464150
being cucked is about the worst thing possible for men genetically speaking(other than just dying obviously). You are spending your resources, your time, your chance at reproduction, on someone else's child

>>12464126
Don't forget Mary Wollstonecraft (although she says women COULD be great).

>>12464168
But that only has meaning to you. Yeah I could be like my dad, have two wives with 10 children and take all the credit for their accomplishments based entirely on my genes. I just don't think it's really fulfilling other than coping with this bullshit anxiety that I'm not cut out for this arbitrary population program.

>>12464188
im just saying men dont like being cucked for very sound reasons. there is no possible way for that behavior to spread in the gene pool

well there is a possible way i guess, a 'compromise' of sorts. The man accepts he will be cucked in exchange for the woman giving him some children as well. This may be the origin of some men being so deeply in denial about their wives cheating. It is an adaptive trait maybe for them

>>12464071
no one worth reading

>>12464071
i love women so much, bros. they are the sweetest, softest, most heavenly of specimens a man will ever find within this world. they also somehow always smell fantastic, they are so much more compassionate for people around them than men are, and are innocent by their very nature. maturity and responsibility comes secondhand to them, juggling so much without a wince or whimper, unlike us men who buckle under the same forces of formality, and seek puerile escapisms like that of video games to avoid such responsibilities. life throws so much hardship at them, and yet they bare it with such beauty and grace that a man can only submit himself over to such a divine, magnificent being.

books for this feel?

>>12464196
your mistake is thinking that the enjoyment of cuckoldry has genetic rather than social origins

>>12464196
Men actually may be less concerned about cuckoldry if they themselves slept with many women. One thing I don't understand about a lot of "open relationships" you hear about is why the guy doesn't sleep around as much as the woman.

>>12464206
>they are so much more compassionate for people around them than men are, and are innocent by their very nature. maturity and responsibility comes secondhand to them, juggling so much without a wince or whimper
you are going to have a very bad time

>>12464206
"books for this feel" doesn't make it lit
>>>/soc/

>>12464168
>A now a moment of silence for ever person who’s ever willing adopted while I play the worlds tinniest violin

>>12464206
absolutely based and fempilled. was waiting for your arrival to this thread my friend

Hume

>>12464206
avant garde post

>>12464206
Treat women the same as men, or more accurately, like unstable and weak versions of men. Otherwise you're going to get fucked over. Taking advantage of men believing in that nonsense is natural to women, it actually exists today to make men even easier to pick apart, you will be torn up.

>>12464206
Based and womenpilled.

>>12464214
>they are so much more compassionate for people around them than men are,

The very fact they treat "being a man" as a status that must be earned and can be lost, and expecting you to go through the economy and succeed at a upper middle class level to even be considered human to a lot of them shows this isn't true at all.

Why should I have an opinion on women if I don't want to marry them?

>>12464258
These are memes, in my opinion. "Being a man" simply means they desire you to take on a natural share of responsibilities, rather than escape into other outlets out of avoidance which comes from the immature, boyish instincts in us. Plenty of women don't care to marry a rich man, from what I've seen. Especially today, when they are now independent-earners and can support themselves without a man's help.

>>12464206
the forefront of /lit/ along with the ww.jpg schizo

Is there a single philosopher who had a positive opinion?

>>12464071
do any other anons here listen to asmr? who are your fav asmrtists desu. goodnight moon a cute

>>12464206
>books for this feel
For any lover of women, DH Lawrence and Tolstoy are required reading. Margaret Fuller also has some interesting insights on men's inherit mommy complex in her book "Women In The 19th Century".

>>12464242
To me, loving women doesn't mean being a doormat. It just means recognising them as a means and motive for self-actualisation via interactions with them. When men and women work together, accomplishments are far greater than any one gender alone can manage. The phrase "behind every great man is a great woman" also comes to mind, as many great men were not only created, but inspired by the women in their lives.

>>12464298
It'd be great if women loving was memed into becoming a big thing on /lit/. It would take a lot of work though.

>>12464356
>It'd be great if women loving was memed into becoming a big thing on /lit/. It would take a lot of work though.

It'd be incredible. A niche board on a website filled with bitter and spiteful men, where they write about how beautiful their broken relationships with women were.

>>12464377
I don't write about it, but I would be able to participate
>>12464071
Yes, but good luck finding too many of them.

>>12464107
>>12464325
/thread

>>12464327
sophie michelle asmr, my dude

>>12464071
Yes, Plato.

>>12464071
Female philosophers.

Nick Land, surprisingly.

>>12464327
>>12464412
>listens to asmr in english
>not in french, combining the sensuality of the language with that inherent to the artform
>not subscribed to colomba asmr
plebs

There are many times throughout history when arrogant, haughty and self entitled women have been taught a hard lesson in humility. The end of WW2 and just after is just one example. The current crop of westen brainwashed feminist woman wouldn't survive such a difficult time even by continuing to whore themselves out

>>12464356
>The phrase "behind every great man is a great woman" also comes to mind, as many great men were not only created, but inspired by the women in their lives.
There's zero evidence for that, it's just an empty facebook-tier quote that makes normies feel good.

>>12464377
That or talking about nice stories about encounters with women. Maybe they could even talk about female authors and female characters without misogynistic shitposts. And maybe, provided people weren't creepy about it, we could even have femanons openly offering their opinions on things without needing to hide their gender.

It sounds pretty comfy and feel good, actually.

>>12464413
The very King himself, then.

>>12464436
that sounds like Reddit

>>12464206
imagine when he gets out of high school

>>12464428

>>12464433
The way in which women helped out during WWII is actually one of the greatest historical examples in their favour. The allies would likely have suffered catastrophic losses were it not for women working in munitions factories and serving as spies and intelligence officers.

Funny how women always become more empowered during times of war-- It's ALMOST as if they'd actually be more willing to put effort into helping society if we stopped pampering them or something.

>>12464206
incel the post

>>12464439
you're right, except Reddit isn't anonymous and for me that makes the world of difference.

>>12464458
I love philosophers shitting on women. Not that I agree I just think it’s hilarious.

>>12464470
i dont get your desire to have this carefully truncated selection of expression about women. theyre not like that irl, there is plenty about them that sucks

every single insecurity and flaw of men is ruthlessly attacked on 4chan every day, why would it be different for women

>>12464458
Reading Schopenhauer always makes me happy

>>12464481
As much as I love them, I know women aren't perfect. Even so, at least acknowledging the good qualities of the sex would create more even handed discussion on the topic. Anything's better than just blindly hating women based on unsubstantiated or long discredited evidence.

>>12464481
I just think that love is all about giving, and if the lack of reciprocation triggers you, then you really don't love them at all.

>>12464458
This was the moment I realized that I should seriously read Land because he expressed exactly my thoughts on women.

>>12464168
>genetically speaking

leave

>>12464206
Contrary to the opinion of all your other (you)s, I think that a perfectly happy, or rather, content, woman in sync with her nature would resemble what you describe. Only don’t search for them in the modern Western world of hedonism and debauchery, you’re bound to be corrupted and destroyed.

>>12464513
it's true no matter how much you wish Darwin never existed

>>12464104
As in, he liked putting his penis in them, as in, he was a degenerate.

>>12464458
>Schopenhauer calling women "unaesthetic"

It boggles the mind how wrong this is. The female form is at the very least equal to man in terms of aesthetics (just ask the Greeks).

On top of that, the emphasis on aesthetics shows that Schopenhauer is ignoring the charming imperfections and quirks that make up human behaviour. It almost sounds as if he's intimidated by women and their humanity.

>>12464501
>>12464504
i dont love 'women' in the abstract at all, and loving individual people has nothing to do with pointing out how flawed humans are

These paeans to women are just weird

>>12464532
you should expect nothing less from a khv. Schoppy was incredibly resentful of women and at the same time extremely butthurt that he wasn't gay

>>12464550
-Schopenhauer was also captivated by the beautiful Karoline Jagemann, mistress of Karl August, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, and he wrote to her his only known love poem.[50] Despite his later celebration of asceticism and negative views of sexuality, Schopenhauer occasionally had sexual affairs, usually with women of lower social status, such as servants, actresses, and sometimes even paid prostitutes.[51] In a letter to his friend Anthime he claims that such affairs continued even in his mature age and admits that he had two out-of-wedlock daughters (born in 1819 and 1836), both of whom died in infancy.[52] In their youthful correspondence Arthur and Anthime were somewhat boastful and competitive about their sexual exploits—but Schopenhauer seemed aware that women usually didn't find him very charming or physically attractive, and his desires often remained unfulfilled
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not quite an incel. more like a beta or something

>>12464542
>These paeans to women are just weird

Does it matter? I already know I'm weird and I'm not about to start pretending I'm someone I'm not to buy a month's pleasure for a lifetime of discontentment.

>>12464206
When one meets that needle in the haystack sort of nice girl, you start to appreciate the best qualities of her: soft skin, silky hair, milky breasts, and feminine mystique. But it's only for that rare quality woman, so never put pussy on a pedestal my nigga.

>>12464071
Any books that praise the aesthetic and positive qualities of women?