/lit/ - Literature

>>12461957
what's there left to save, honestly?

We all gotta do mushrooms and play outside together

>bong food is so trash that they have to appropriate pajeet slop as a national dish

Lmao

>>12461957
this guy is so fucking based

>>12461957
first step is to stop fetishizing "society." you'll never get close enough to its corpse to give it a proper autopsy, and all your doing so will only distract you from attending to the needs of your immediate circle which are very much alive by dint of the availability of your sentience, although by your OP pic who knows

>>12461957
>whitoids go around the world destroying indigenous cultures and injecting their dastardly Christianity wherever they go
>mad when they get what they've been dishing out

The caucasian is the master of evading his own shadow.

>>12462016 #
uhh we got to stop the shitskins and the mudslimes from shitting inside our gene pool duh

>>12461957
The same way it was created.

>>12462039
>t. j*w

Every civilization has to end at some point. Just go with the flow and embrace the change.

>>12462026
>>12462042
your gene pool is already fucked, that's why you're in this mess.

>>12462039
>The caucasian is the master of evading his own shadow.
We have to be, now there's a nigger lurking in every other shadow.

You know what? At the end of the day this is your fault. You ruined these places and expected the native population to stay there. My biggest pet peeve is when whites complain about this shit. Ignoring shit like colonialism you can see that white people continued to fuck up Africa. Some countries like Burkina Faso were literally on the up and up with Thomas Sankara but yall had to assasinate him. Don't fucking hate minorities for this shit. Hate your own leaders.

White greed is what led to your so called fall of western civilization.

>>12462050
This sadly, hopefully our white heads wont be stomped into dust and we can live out our last days peacefully

>>12461957
By fanboying an anti western eastern orthodox russian ruler.
God you people disgust me.

>>12462050
>Every civilization has to end at some point.
Not exactly. But the white/European civilization seems poorly equipped for survival.
It's too naive and too individualist.
Not true for all whites of course.

>>12461957
By shitposting offtopic on here the rest of our lives and only spilling our seed for 2D. Have you done your part?

>this motherfucker
Don't trust this retard. He made a big scandal when he came to my country.

>>12462039
Holy shit this. Play imperialistic games win imperialistic prizes.

>>12462087
We can easily reject the prizes lmao, like stupidly easily but whitoids are to cucked for their own good with this savior complex and chinese will swoop in and do practically the same shit.

If there's a god he'll make sure the Chinese will kill or enlsave every single nigger once we're gone.

>>12461957
you guys genuinely depress me. i'm brown, have nothing against any person of any background, yet you all would probably secretly despise me if you saw me in front of you. i hate this site now and will leave here by tomorrow. u people would probably kill those outside your in-group if you received an official chance to, like a civil war or whatever else you itch for. i am genuinely scared of your kind

>>12462101
It is too late, you already reaped the rewards of your imperialism, you can't escape your imperialistic legacy. Maybe tear down your monarchy and commonwealth Union of Britain style and maybe you have a claim to the moral high ground

>>12461957
there's nothing to save, it has been dead for decades

>>12462082
>>12462073
Exactly, just chill out and look after Number One. Why complain about things you can't change?

>>12462068
>yall

>>12461957
Western civilization is a spook

>>12462116
I wouldn't hate you for being brown friend, racism is wack.

>>12461957
>expending mental energy on people you view as inferior

for what? (nobody point out that I'm doing just that, thx)

>>12461957
Western civilization deserves to rot tbqh

>>12462140
I'm a white man from the South... so what

>>12462152
i love you anon, thank u for saying this

>>12462116
>yet you all would probably secretly despise me if you saw me in front of you.
Well then don't be in front of me. Simple.

>>12462068
>holding white proles accountable for what their shitty leaders did, so now they have to be shamed, compete and share valuable living space with third worlders they likely will likely never socialize with and create further splintering tribalism in the west

This is part of the problem, you can have them invest properly in these "ruined countries" and they would end up being fine but nah we need to have this mad sprint of population boom to less spacious and generally less fertile lands.

>>12462116
Umm yeah retard if there was a genuine race war I would have to kill you dumb fuck. Otherwise I dont give a shit about your indivdual precense. Dont pretend like your kind doesnt fall for the hateful and evil rhetoric either.

>>12462172
you can despise that anon, but just remember that God judges you for all your judgements

>>12462193
You too, anon. God will judge you justly for all these sentiments.

>>12462016
this. I literally do not care what happens to white people. Better that races who care about the future take over.

>>12461957
By letting it collapse and then rebuilding it from the ashes

>>12461957
imagine being so cucked that you worship an abstraction of your own treasured western culture hard as fuck, while your actual ancestors would kick you in the ribs for even thinking it up. No one you think would like you way back when would actually like an idiot like you, nor would they agree your culture is worse than theirs is. It baffles me how you could even think that.
Western civilization was never "great" in the first place, and back when you think it was your forefathers were illiterate peasants who laughed at fart and piss-jokes. Man up. You remind me of those pussywhipped Finns who suck Kalevala dick and pretend its 3000 gorillion yearrs old while it was only written down a century and ten years or so ago.

>>12462122
This. What hypocrisy they show, not realizing that actions always have consequences.

>>12462122
>You
>Your legacy

Ah the classic white people bad things apply to you but not the good things. Its getting old man

>>12462068
>African colonialism was bad in result
Get a load of this guy

>>12462068
>it's always yt's fault
Absolutely fucking pathetic

>>12462294
>we dindu nuffin wrong, those ebil BLAKS r responsible for all our modern problems!

>>12461957
That's /pol/'s job, anon... Not /lit/'s!

>>12462068
>You know what? At the end of the day this is your fault.
I kinda agree but I don't think you would say the same when talking about african subjects and their dictators....

>>12462301
Nice strawman

>>12461957
>this thread again
why

>>12462116
I wouldn't, and not everyone here is from /pol/

>>12462280
what a nonsense paternalist statement. imagine arabs genociding europe and keeping them enslaved through neocolonialism years after their supposed decolonisation, only to say some bullshit like 'but you got muh maths f-from arab man" after reaping what they sowed in the first place.
Jesus christ imagine reducing everything around you to a nonexistent scapegoat for your own problems. Pathetic.

>>12462116
i have a black gf but your post just turned me into a racist

>>12462068
Hey man dont hate the player hate the game. Colonialism was inevitable tbqh

>>12462068
Who even cares? It's not about what caused the problem, it's how to fix it

>>12462288
LOL Yeah Wakanda is real... 700,000 years of complete isolation from whites, and we all know that sub-Saharan Negroes were able to create anti-gravity, space travel and gender equality... The white people showed up and ruined everything! That's why sub-Saharan African cultural norms include rape, cannibalism and worshiping bundles of sticks and mud... It's all because of whites! Once we get rid of these disgusting goyim...er, I mean whites, it'll all be better...

>>12462325
>keeping them enslaved through neocolonialism
A funny way of saying 'giving them countries complete with infrastructure they could never have built themselves and continuing to send trillions in foreign aid for decades'

>>12462280
You are still enjoying the good things though

>>12462352
The infrastructure they only built to aid in their exploitations, the foreign aid which goes towards lands they helped destroy in the first place?

>>12462400
>exploitations
>destroy in
yet more comedy. I didnt realize creating an entire economy and then handing it over to the natives constituted destruction
In fact when Europeans did this same thing over in Asia, it mysteriously helped the colonies there along. Asians incidentally have a much higher IQ than sub-saharans and a long history of complex civilization

>>12462400
God do you people think these areas are
unsalvageble or something since it happend?

>>12462116
you'll be the first to go, brown boy

>>12462325
arabs didn't invent anything of great value, it was all persians

>>12462416
>handing it over to the natives constituted destruction
Oh please, Neo-colonialism explicitly prevented transfer of economic asset and resources to the natives despite political independence.

>>12462416
To give India as an example, all of the infrastructure which the Raj built there, like railroads still present, was built solely to expidite the exploitation they were there to do. India had a very prosperous economy, making up some 20% or so of the global GDP of the time, but was brought to absolute poverty by the time the British left.

>>12462417
No, but acknowledge the wrongs done, and that the problems faced by these nations today, were caused by their own selves yesterday.

>>12461957
Doesn't need you to save it.

Basically nothing will save it unless there is some crazy black swan event.

we curtail the hegemony of american "culture" by destroying the internet, which is infected by american "culture"

>>12462507
this but completely unironically

>>12461957
unironically communism

>>12462016
books in public libraries

>>12462569
libraries are a giant meme, literally 95% of their stock haven't been taken out in multiple decades and a significant percentage of them never have been.

I hope everyone in the future is one color so we can stop this silliness of joining racial tribes. All racial tribes do is divide humans and remove individuality.

>>12462719
Agree, but I hope that color is white desu

>>12462719
I mean if I could flick a switch, sure. But since we can't, at what cost? Are you fine with any way in which history negotiates culture as long as we all turn beige?

>>12462719
Nah thats gay, conflict is what makes humanity humanity

>>12461957
Western civilization is whatever works.
Eastern medicine that works turns into western medicine. Willow bark remedies to aspirin, curare toxins in pygmy blow darts to anesthesia, etc.
Western /lit/ absorbs murakami, dostoevsky, etc.
If Western Civilization needed preserving it would have needed preserving this whole time. Germanic peoples would still be using shaman for healing and dreamspace guides and sacrificing enemy soldiers to the bog gods. Instead as groups adopted christian mythology they were more deferential to authority and more cohesive as groups, were more successful, not to mention christianity has a proselytizing mechanism that germanic pagan tribal faiths never had, so it continued to spread.
Western civilization is benefiting directly from increased trade via the "silk road" and transatlantic trade networks which requires collaboration with all sorts of contemptible people including western african warlords, weird fucking chinese demagogues, Moroccan arabic slave and spice traders, all kinds of shit.
You don't even like western civilization, you're chasing nostalgia for some narcissistic mirror pond vision that never existed and never will. Western civilization will continue to be preserved and propogated by greedy fuckers, pragmatists, amoral sonofabitches, anyone willing to stay awake for three days in a row on adderall and coke for an extra couple bucks, anyone who has a job they don't want to tell their parents about, anyone who sells shit on a corner and calls it food.
I love it. It takes care of itself. There's nothing you can do to stop it.
Asking what you can do to preserve western civ is like asking what you can do to preserve the precious MRSA and CRE strains in our nation's ICUs from the continuing onslaught of ampicillin and clindamycin. It's designed to resist these influences, that's what it's best at. It doesn't give a shit about you. Eventually it will lead to the autogestation and delivery of a modern version of the old testament god. Yay.

I just don't want european people to disappear is that so wrong

>>12461957
If dumb wiggers would actually fucking read for fun during childhood we wouldn't be here. Fucking dumbass retards think reading is boring, honestly anyone who thinks that should be fucking gassed.

>>12462325
You're right that would be ridiculous - because 'arabic numerals' is a misnomer (they were actually invented in India)

>>12462814
fuck off to /pol/ nazi

>>12462814
Theyre not gonna dissapear you silly conspiracy theorist there will just be way way way less of them haha!

>>12461957
>how do we save the western civilization /lit/?

Lemme just drop this 'ere, real quick chief

>>12462068
>yall

i kek'd

>>12462909
I've pictured that scenario a few times. White folk in small rural communities while other kin populate the cities. A rather bizarre image, but entirely plausible. Here in Spain it appears that abandoned villages are being populated by German and French immigrants.

Jesus fucking christ i hate the right.
Racism/racial superiority can be dismissed with the simplest of arguments, but somehow people still manage to base an entire ideology off of that one premise.
Western civilisation doesn't exist. What does exist though, is a multitude of different european cultures and people, all in danger of being squashed by anglo-saxon homogenisation.
Imagine if Sweden had annexed and kept Finland and now only 1% of the population spoke finnish, the rest swedish. Except that's what happened to Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Isle of Man and probably an innumerable amount of other european and indo-european cultures, (not to mention all the ethnic cultures subject to european colonialism).
White peoples culture is diverse in and of itself. The right/state is, (and always has been), trying to homogenise it.
It doesn't matter if you're a Trump supporter or an indo-european, Odin-worshipping Pagan™.

>thread is up for over 3 and a half hours
BASED

>>12463078
>the right
Is everyone here underage?

>>12463078
>Racism/racial superiority can be dismissed with the simplest of arguments
give 1 (one)

>>12463078
>Racism/racial superiority can be dismissed with the simplest of arguments
Let's hear it then.

>>12463078
>oh no a bunch of celts got anglo'd what a tragedy
Retarded illiterate faggot the French are responsible for literal extermination of Occitan/Alsacien/Picard/Breton cultures and you're making a fuss about some whiskyniggers who still kept their gaelic orc tongues importing some norman rites and bickies from the south. Fucking neck yourself.

>>12463078
>Racism/racial superiority can be dismissed with the simplest of arguments,
Toppest of lols. There is literally no evidence for racial equality, and lots against it

>>12463078
>says a certain race was able to conquer everything
>racial superiority no exist tho

Woah

>>12463123
Do you think the law should reflect that inequality, or should the law treat all humans the same regardless of race, punishing that which it deems punishable?

>>12463132
Could it not be because of circumstantial reasons?

>>12462507
>>12462512
>he doesn't have linguistic decoupling from amerimutts
lmao @ monolinguals

>>12462630
>literally 95% of their stock haven't been taken out in multiple decades and a significant percentage of them never have been.
and so? this doesn't affect my opinion

>>12463091
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>>12463108
>>12463110
>>12463123
I knew I shouldn't have included that sentence, now you can just say epic kek and ignore the rest of my post. That being said: How can you feel content about the "white race" knowing that it's full of retarded lefties and race traitors like myself. Not to mention that the majority of it probably hasn't picked up a book in their life, and only ever consumed american trash culture?
I sometimes think racism sounds great as well, until I realise that I'm sharing my white skin with all manners of fucktards.
>>12463118
Why are you so angry?
I was just using a well known example, that doesn't make yours any less tragic.

>>12463189
I dont feel content about the white race at all, im not a white nationalist

>>12463189
No race is pure enough to disregard what are basic human flaws such as complacency and hedonism. It affects all the same (in general terms).

>>12463208
What can certain races disregard then, that others can't?

>>12463189
>How can you feel content about the "white race"
I don't feel content about it.

>I sometimes think racism sounds great as well, until I realise that I'm sharing my white skin with all manners of fucktards.
Often time real-life politics is just choosing the lesser evil and/or the most practical solution.
How would race-blind pro-immigrant policies pan out in the long term? (In Europe this means mostly Africans coming in.)

>>12462507
speak of america, i have good story to tell of experience friends.

forgive english, i am Russia.

i come to study clothing and fashion at American university. i am here little time and i am very hard stress. i am gay also and this very difficult for me, i am very religion person. i never act to be gay with other men before. but after i am in america 6 weeks i am my friend together he is gay also. He was show me American fashion and then we are kiss.

We sex together. I never before now am tell my mother about gay because i am very shame. As i fuck this American boy it is very good to me but also i am feel so guilty. I feel extreme guilty as I begin orgasm. I feel so guilty that I pick up my telephone and call Mother in Russia. I awaken her. It too late for stopping so I am cumming sex. I am very upset and guilty and crying, so I yell her, "I AM CUM FROM SEX" (in Russia). She say what? I say "I AM CUM FROM SEX" and she say you boy, do not marry American girl, and I say "NO I AM CUM FROM SEX WITH MAN, I AM IN ASS, I CUM IN ASS" and my mother very angry me. She not get scared though.

I hang up phone and am very embarrass. My friend also he is very embarrass. I am guilt and feel very stupid. I wonder, why do I gay with man? But I continue because when it spurt it feel very good in American ass.

fear not, friends and family. we shall colonise antarctica. i'm telling you. same old trick, different continent. it's getting warmer down there. very soon, the time will be ripe for antarctic settlement.

in the middle we build a nano-elevator to the moon. two featureless wastelands will be ours, all ours. we will mine, and build elaborate palaces out of stone and ice to decorate our desert homelands and make it beautiful.

the difficult conditions will make us strong, and hardy, and we will take comfort in the arms of our women. the result? population boom.

Antarctica: 2.3 billion by the year 2062
Moon: 500 million

dream. sleep, and dream exploratory dreams. penetrate the future with your lucid mind. become virile, and excellent, for our ships need seamen full of song and adventure.

there is space aplenty for our little culture, and there is yet to be a venice on mars.

>>12463249
you have lowered the tone.

>>12463280
Based non defeatist, whites will live on even if it means abondoning our homelands for another

>>12463242
>How would race-blind pro-immigrant policies pan out in the long term? (In Europe this means mostly Africans coming in.)
I think world demographics in general are gonna get a huge shake-up in the coming century, mainly because of climate change.
Anti-immigration/closed border policies just seem like a band-aid solution to this problem.
Now as I said before, I'm all for the preservation of various "white" cultures, but I think the best way to preserve culture is to decentralise it.

>>12463223
I don't know; I'm not an expert on this subject. I do however believe that to a certain extent all humans are equal in very core concepts.

Western Europe is doomed entire due to dysgenics, but this started over 100 years ago with WWI. All the good men died in that war, and society has never recovered. Now that the third world has already won the fertility war in Europe it's literally inevitable that Europe declines into a messy, corrupt, dangerous hellhole just like the rest of the 3rd world. There is no chance of revival because the good genetics will be all but gone. The same is true for North America. Only East Asia will have civilization 100 years from now.

>>12463401
There will still be Eastern european countries

>>12463409
Right, I forgot about them. Yes, they will survive, and they may even thrive as they assert themselves as the strongest nations in Europe. The problem is nuclear arsenals, but that's a bridge they can cross when they get to it.

>>12463401
>this started over 100 years ago with WWI
I'd say it started earlier, with the industrial revolution, which allowed stupid people to survive and have many kids.
Here's a guy that studies intelligence and he's saying it's been decreasing for a while:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCT_QY8QQv0

>>12463401
The more I read about WWI the closer I have come to that conclusion. We truly fucked ourselves in 1914. It's so depressing knowing that it was inevitable and that we are now in the aftermath. We couldn't enjoy the world before the end begun, but we also won't be able to live in a world past it. We get to see it slowly die.

>>12463409
I mean if you accept his 'dysgenics, all good men died in the war' hypothesis, it's not like Eastern Europe got an exemption. Not only did men die in the two world wars, but their populations also got raped by lowlife refuse soldiers of the Ottoman Empire, Barbary slaves etc making them rape babies of dubious peoples...

>>12463437
Im not some EE romanticizer but they are at least asserting the sovereignty of their borders for the time being

>>12463444
Just you wait mate.

>>12462068
das rite

>>12463148
No? What kind of fallacious reasoning is this? Civilizations don't "rise and fall", you brainlet, they are the eternal emblems of their internal inhabitants, demonstrating an outward marker of their internal nature to the rest of the world. Look at the glorious Western Civilization™, for example. On what culture was it itself founded? That of Ancient Greece of course, the source of all the foundational philosophies, political systems, and aesthetic traditions since found here. Now, is there any difference between Ancient Greece and Modern Greece? Of course not, they are still the center of Western Civilization™, every generation of them produces a new Plato, a new Aristotle, a new artistic movement, a new system of politics, and everything else they've always been doing.

Compare the same for any other culture. Me? I'm German. We are presently part of the richest countries in today's world, and the leader of much industrial revolutions. Has it always been this way? Of course. Go back thousands of years and we wuz there, as vikangz, showing off our superior, German Engineering™ to all the cultures around us, like those less-sophisticated Greeks which I mentioned earlier.

What you're arguing here, that present cultures are very much the product of past circumstances and that branding permanent judgments onto them despite the constant presence of change demonstrating that it has far less to do with anything genetic and moreso chance and historical conditions, shows me what an absolute brainlet you are, not to mention how bluepilled too.

Maybe use proper reasoning, in future?

>>12463472
great post, upboat i like how you ended it with an uptalking passive aggressive rhetorical question and nigger grammar

>only """"""whites""""""" that will be left are fucking slavs


Pitiful lmao

>>12461957
There's something astounding about this, particularly when you read British history and literature. It's like the British just gave up their belief that they should exist and decided to fundamentally transform their country and capital city.

>>12463495
Probably WW2 desu, before then people weren't afraid to just openly be racist to protect their own interests but after fighting a brutal war against Hitler who's been demonized due to his racial eugenics memes being called racist has a lot more weight to it

>>12463495
It's happened before in history to other people, there are various theories about why but it's all speculation

These people will go back once there is a serious economic recession or such. For example If you look at the EU in total it's about to implode on it'self any moment now, Macron is spent and once Merkel is replaced, several countries get right wing populism in power. There seems to be little nothing to bind the EU together in the future. From there things can only spiral down and these guys might leave.

>>12463518
Idiotic. They will never leave until you kick down their door and force them onto a boat. Are you strong enough to do that? How much do you weigh? Can you fight and aim? Will your friends and family be okay with you doing that when it's posted on Facebook? Where do I find a gf? Answer me, anon

Kek why do people jump through so many hoops to prove that the west isnt a thing

>>12463078
t. seething irish scouser subhuman