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>>12452498
Post examples, please. This could be a good thread, if you post specific excerpts and provide your opinions of them. Otherwise you'll just get flamed to hell, since the people here love Kierke.

>>12452503
t. dane

>>12452523
t. troll

>>12452498
Spend more time with him. Kierkegaard was a giga philosopher on par with Socrates. He is definitely hard to understand at first, I agree.

>>12452512
People like him because he's not a name the majority of people know so they can try and look as smart as him. Throw in his general downtrodden outlook on life that the average 4chan user can relate and you've got a board of people who love him.

Everyone has a hobby, Kierky's was writing. Read Sickness Unto Death if you want a concise treatise.

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>>12452498
F&T is "literally" just a set of examples to show what true faith is to his contemporary Danes who undervalues it

>>12452498
Why do you think so? Post passages and explain yourself, please.

>but who cares because at least I sound smart

stop projecting your infantile ego on someone like Kierkegaard

>>12452512
Not OP, but one of my complaints about Fear and Trembling is that Kierkegaard claims it's possible for the particular to reach the universal without having to go through the general, as if the general were somehow not part of the universal.

>>12452595
But isn't that precisely his point about making a blind leap of faith then putting on the blinkers as to what others think or how they perpetuate their own faith or lack thereof? OP by the way, just wondering if I learned ANYTHING from that poorly organised mess of a book.

>starting from f&t
Clearly too much for our little atheist here. Read The Present Age first.

>>12452595
No, he says the faith is the individual clarified through the universal, not leapfrogging over it.

>>12452629
I'm not remotely athiest; I don't actually care about the entire topic of faith. The book was just highly recommended and I'm trying to force myself to stop using my PC so damn much. In the last few days I've gone through the Art of War, Symposium, Flowers for Algernon, and Fear and Trembling, with the latter being a total unsatisfying mess to read.

>>12452652
It isn't a mess, Kierkegaard is making a very subtle point, which is Abraham is a paragon of true faith because he was willing to commit the one act that any god-fearing man would find abolutely despicable: he was willing to alienate God, for God, to prove to himself his faith transcends even the most hallowed bond there is, that between a father and a child.

The angel did not stay Abraham's hand, he stayed his own hand, at the instant, the INSTANT, he was satisfied with the knowledge he could have done it.

Kierkegaard is saying the true faith is so transcendent it could survive even you violating your deepest sense of self, think of the most personally horrific thing you can imagine (like murdering your mother in her sleep) and imagine actually setting it out to do it, your faith in God exalted for it, not because God is exalting you, no fucking way, but because that faith never depended on you in the first place.

That's what it takes to be like Abraham.

>>12452709
So why does it take him over 100 pages to explain what you did in one medium sized post on a Mongolian basket weaving forum?

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>>12452652
Very disappointed in you, OP. Endless streams of tangents? No, he gives sufficient examples to contrast the attitude of resignation vs. the attitude of faith; to do so he gives you Agamemnon and Abraham and himself with Regine. The book is about faith, so if you don't care about faith of course you're not going to like it (though you're also a pleb). General downtrodden outlook on life? More of a meme than reality. Certainly, Soren is serious, that's what "Soren" means, sore or serious, and "Kierkegaard" churchyard or cemetery so his very name is "serious as the grave." But not gloomy; he recognizes the marvelous light of God and seeks to position existence within it, and while this may be a lonely affair that one cannot really share with anyone else it is the only joyous one and the only way to avoid despair (see The Sickness Unto Death).

>>12452779
Because he explains it better than I did, and I'm really sick and tired of this stupid soundbite philosophy craze, what a philosophy has to teach you is not a set of truth propositions about the world but the process towards that truth, which will have a much greater impact on you than a fucking pinterest quote about faith.

>>12452803
Fortunately I was never in the market for philosophy so you can wipe that sweat off your brow. I just wanted a good interesting book to read.

>>12452817
>I was never in the market for philosophy
>reads a philosophy book then bitches its about philosophy

>>12452847
I didn't complain about its philosophy, only the web of obfuscation around it.

>>12452867
You were just told its written that way because it is a philosophy book and not a pintrest quote, and your response was "I wasn't in the market for philosophy anyways"

You're the type of retard to read a science text book and bitch it didn't get to the point.

>>12452867
There is no web of obfuscation around it, it's philosophy. "Obfuscation" is just a crutch-word for lack of comprehension.

Good thread everyone. God Bless.

>kierkegaard of all people too difficult for you
Hoo boy, have you even heard of Kant, Hegel or Heidegger?

>>12452498
Kierkegaard is intelligent, nihilistic, and has a wicked sense of humor.

>>12452543
not true. I like Kierkegaard because he sends me frequent telepathic messages because I'm the single individual he prophesized to uncover the secret behind his work

>>12453745
my diary desu

>>12452498
he was just some narcissistic faggot who lived off the inheritance his dad left him
but also you're wrong and are somehow too stupid to understand kierkegaard, who is incredibly simple

What's good about fear and trembling is that because of it's tangential nature the book almosts forces you to think

>>12454751
did he really say this? why are so many writers so full of themselves? believing their writing so important that future humans will uncover their "true meanings"? or joyce claiming that "scholars will be arguing over what my puzzles meant for centuries?"

heck, shakespeare himself didn't seem to hold himself in great esteem, not even preserving copies of his own works, others having to do so for him.

>>12456168
what was narcissistic about him? havent read him. also dont b mean to OP pls