/lit/ - Literature

nobody on /lit/ says this

if u majored in stem u would be required to do a discrete math class which is the basically the same thing but without being smug over understanding basic theory behind logic gates

>>12450578
cos its gay

>>12450586
People seemed very antagonistic in the other thread. Sage.

>>12450578
>implying I’m not taking a logic class in uni right now

>>12450606
>logic gate
CS pajeet, go.

>>12450578
Because this is a board for actually smart literary people, not autistic beta (((scientists))).

>>12450626
>someone's not a retard
>must be from asia somewhere

is this the noble whiteman ive been hearing so much about?

>>12450632
You don’t have to be a scientist to realize that continental philosophy mostly amounts to ahistorical nonsense (Foucault) or nonsensical ramblings (Nietzsche Heidegger Sartre) the only respectable individuals in your tradition are Husserl and Marx to an extent.

>>12450578
I don't hate formal logic, it's an extremely productive tool, I hate overzealous rationalists/high modernists who think it's applicable in cases where it's clearly not or when people think it's foundational to epistemology or ontology.. I personally mostly just shitpost about the analytics because I've only read late Wittgenstein and like 50 pages of secondary Whitehead. Also analytics smell like pencil shavings. Also >>12450613

>>12450653
>nonsensical
>incoherent
>pretentious
>pseud
>meaningless gibberish
>word salad
>ramblings

crutch-words used by plebs incapable of non-linear thinking

>>12450744
"Buzzword" is itself a buzzword, friend.

Leave it to /lit/ to be butthurt about a thing they can't simply talk themselves out with fancy words.

>>12450749
I wrote crutch-words, not buzzwords.

>>12450632
kek, your preconceived notion of logic isn't what logic actually is. go back to your genre fiction thread.

>>12450744
>tfw at meeting at work the boss says "if u dont know sth, dont just make up some crap and ramble on with a bunch of shit that makes no sense" and u know he's talking about u, but what he doesn't know is that u know exactly what you're rambling on about even if no one else does

awkward

>>12450754
They are identical. All buzzwords are used as crutches, and for a word or phrase to be a reliable crutch, it must be popular and vague enough to have acquired general usage. Saying that someone is "using crutch words" is not a criticism. He didn't make a valid criticism either, obviously, but that's why you ask questions like "What about Nietzsche is nonsensical?" and reveal your opponent's ignorance through their lack of understanding of the subject matter. Really seems like you're thoughtlessly butthurt because someone said a mean thing about Daddy Martin or Uncle Freddy

>>12450653
The problem with Foucault isn't ahistoricity--it's his cryptonormativity. Also, Marx's writings are ahistoricity par excellence.

>>12450750
op detected. did anons tag team your boipuce in another thread?

>>12450779
I don't care about picking the brain of some turing test flunkie, when I can tell someone knows what they're talking about I'll always ask them to elaborate on their polemics because I know they'll have thought long and hard about these topics even if I disagree.

I don't worship Nietzsche, but basically you read enough pleb posts and they became incredibly homogenous and indistinguishable.

>>12450779
not him but what's the point of letting him continue to spew his derogatory stream of pure brainlet butthurt when he can just be shut down right then and there by being unmasked as the whining brainlet he is? if he just said something like
>What about Nietzsche is nonsensical?
he'll just stream some more bullshit that's equally as retarded
>His perverted obsession with Zarathustra and the Ubermensch is an ahistorical analysis that fails to sufficiently reify noumena

>>12450578
what are some good books to learn this topic?

>>12450606
That's what's taught in an advanced level undergraduate logic class that's basic propositional logic even an in intro class you learn some predicate logic. If you take an advanced undergraduate class you will do actual predicate logic and modal logic way above discrete math you brainlet CS cuck

>>12450797
>>12450801
That is a dangerous kind of reactive contempt. Not saying I don't feel the same way, that's what this website does, but nevertheless

>>12450840
*That's NOT what is taught in an advanced undergraduate level

>>12450840
Modal logic is very useful in CS actually.

>>12450841
in this particular case there's nothing wrong with it, in fact it's the most viable efficient response.

>>12450801
>>His perverted obsession with Zarathustra and the Ubermensch is an ahistorical analysis that fails to sufficiently reify noumena

I agree but you vastly overestimate the thought he's put into Nietzsche, basically anyone who thinks philosophy in their mother tongue are genuinely "incoherent" is probably a drooler. I know they're exaggerating a bit but if you're just that baffled and disassociated from your own self and your own life Nietzsche is moonspeak to you, don't post on this board.

There are plenty of people who disagree with Nietzsche, I'm one of them, but I've put in at least a little bit of work into it.

>>12450873
The ideal strategy is to trap them in a corner, then vent all your spleen at once. That way they can't respond without looking like a whiny bitch because they were argumentatively outmaneuvered; they have to sit there and take it.