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12446420 No.12446420 [Reply] [Original]

Why did he love Shakespeare so much?

>> No.12446449
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>>12446420
Because he marveled that an Anglo could be so witty and have such a way with words, all Jews especially highly educated Jews like Freud have an innate sense of racial superiority (justified or not), and when they come into contact with verbal genius in a goyim it leaves them dazzled in a state of wonder and shock because it's from the last person they would expect to have it it

>> No.12446476

Have you read Shakespeare? Guy was channelling literary power from fucking aliens or something, goddamn.

>> No.12446486

>>12446476

What impresses you the most in his work? The language?

>> No.12446502

>>12446449
She looks so dead inside now

>> No.12446510

>>12446476
Haha, this is a terrific description. Just like another anon who described Plato as "writing dialogues to himself", because nobody would be on his level for another few "cosmic cycles".

Anyway OP, Freud seemingly saw a tremendous undercurrent of psychological substratum within Hamlet primarily, that he connected to the tale of Oedipus, and helped to form much of his psychological theories of real-life. Personally I don't know what Shakespeare was intending with Hamlet, regarding Hamlet having desire for Gertrude and jealousy for Claudius, but I do believe Freud was right to read such a narrative into it. It doesn't seem a stretch to me. Shakespeare is such a genius that for his best works, everyone sees something diffierent in them and all views may have seeming validity to them - his works are truly alive.

And personally, I do agree with the Oedipus complex. I remember that when I was a child, I did have affection towards my mother, and wished my father were out of the picture. So it could just be me and Mommy. I grew out of it in no time, but I think Freud was completely right in realising that a straight boy's first love is his mother, and a straight girl's is her dad.

Also, I really love motherly, feminine women and I hope one day I find one who will take care of me and make me feel loved and safe.

>> No.12446526

>>12446502
It's because of the nerve damage to her jaw + it being very cold when that was filmed, not because of anything being wrong with her as a person, which is impossible

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>>12446526
She's aged so much in 5 years. It must be a stressful job

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>>12446449
Well duh, Shakespeare was not an Anglo in the first place

>> No.12446715

Shakespeare marked the point in history where human's reached a higher level of consciousness which allowed more existential questions

>> No.12446848

>>12446715
the pre-Buddhist Upanishads in the 9th-8th century BC were already lightyears ahead of Shakespeare my dude

>> No.12446863

>>12446848

This. Shakespeare is the greatest poet I have ever encountered, but Bloom’s “theory” of the creation of the human is stupid as hell. No wonder the science people make fun of the humanities when opinions like that are taken seriously.

>> No.12446867

>>12446848
They clearly weren't as reflected in their society. Shakespearean England was lightyears ahead of the East of the time.

>> No.12446875

>>12446863
Science doesn't even care about human history since it's irrelevant to what they do

>> No.12446903

>>12446867

You seem to think technology and advances in the institutions somehow improve the human psyche or are reflections of that improvement, when in fact human nature is pretty much the same everywhere for at least 10.000,00 years.

Throw a severe economic crisis or a war on top of the most refined societies and see how long the veneer of civility will last on its individuals. People are animals, apes on suits.

>> No.12446908

Freud was a complete fraud - pretending to understand Shakespeare! What a schmuck.

>> No.12446924

>>12446875
>Science doesn't even care about human history since it's irrelevant to what they do
We need to stop funding these irresponsible bums. What was the last invention of any real practical usefulness - the electric wash machine?

>> No.12446930

>>12446903
>when in fact human nature is pretty much the same everywhere for at least 10.000,00 years.
No way

>> No.12446941

>>12446930
There is a huge difference between the consciousness of Homers time and the consciousness of Pynchons time. It's not just "human nature" but the ideas humans have come up with and their development through history.

>> No.12446947

>>12446941
I was just reading Aristotle's Ethics. If anything, human nature has regressed since then.

>> No.12446977

>>12446947
What is human nature?

>> No.12446981

>>12446449
Uber - Wench

>> No.12446989

>>12446977
>What is human nature?
Phronesis