/lit/ - Literature

>>12437929
Lol your ideology is the personification of a rebellious 13 year old who thinks he's a intellectual

>>12437929
Don't get spooked
>>12437939
BASED

>>12437929
you already are

You can start by not listening to my advice.

>>12437939
>a intellectual

1. Invest all your money into milk.
2. ????
3. PROFIT

don't allow your actions to be motivated by a desire to serve abstractions. specifically, abstractions which you would place as somehow above, or greater than yourself should be rejected.

Be yourself. Care for yourself. Do what you wish to do.
That's Stirnerism in practice.

Stage I.
Realise there's no abstract god above you.

Stage II.
Soham Shivoham
Om purnam adah, purnam idam

>>12438061
>Realise there's no abstract god above you.
I’d like to know how you came to that conclusion

>12438059
so Stirner is basically bee yourself?

>>12437929
Throw him in the trash and pick up Ayn Rand instead

>>12437929
well, start by not asking that question, since by definition you failed and got spooked

>>12438843
Rand is just the cowards version of Stirner.
The appeal is mostly a "logic" supported by fear of self-sufficiency/reliance that is the supposed tenant of her beliefs.

>>12437929
Take hot steaming dumps wherever you go with no regard for whoever might be watching, and if anyone calls you out for it just smear poop on their forehead and say “you’re MY property now.”

>>12437990
I kekd

>>12439133
>supported by fear of self-sufficiency/reliance
I would love to hear from you what part of Rand possibly exhibits this

>>12439305
She admired the State and Institutions. She was a minarchist.

>>12437929
by being an asshole

>>12439336
Admired? Hardly.
She was a minarchist because she recognized the anarchistic notion of polycentric markets for the retaliatory use of force is a fallacy. The separation of state and law has no warrant. The separation of economics does. Clearly the anarchists propose to replace the need for judicial law with some nebulous cultural reformation that would cause people to desire instead to deal with polycentric markets in force instead of a guarantor of justice. But a "market in force" is a contradiction in terms; the retaliatory use of force can't originate as a market function because the preclusion of force from human relationships is a prerequisite to the existence of a free market in the first place.
There is literally nothing wrong with placing the retaliatory use of force under a monopoly. Rendering it a potency objectivity in fact necessitates it.

>>12440706
Yo man, cool down, he's just making a meme

>>12440752
? I doesn't look like one.

*It

>>12438061
Stage III.
Stop posting as a tripfag on 4chan's literature board

>>12437929
steal shit
smash trashcans
tell spooks to fuck off

>>12440752
>I-I was just joking

>>12438061
Dumb namefaggot

You can't eat a spook.

>>12437939
your misreading if Stirner is as infinitely more underage than anyone telling me theft isn’t a crime.

>>12438061

>>12438141
>hurr prove russell’s teapot doesn’t exist

>>12442730
>russell’s teapot

>>12442741
back to the non-arguments with you faggots. post more fedoras please brainlet.

>>12437929
start calling black people spooks

Stirner is god.
nu-/lit/ is just trying to be iconoclastic.

>>12437929
You don’t. I don’t get this obsession why everything must be intergrated into your every day life. Or why something must have a “practical, real world” purpose. Can’t we just have philosophy for the sake of philosophy?

>>12440706
>Admired? Hardly.
>She was a minarchist because she recognized the anarchistic notion of polycentric
Mildly agreeing with your opponent is not a counter-argument.

>>12443706
Except that wasn't what I did?

>>12437929

Make shitty spook-poster threads and then go to a bad neighbourhood and yell NIGGER a lot and tell them race is a spook when you get slapped. Afterwards tell us how your day as a Stirnerite went.

>>12437929
Just bee urself

>fuck society
>fuck governments
>fuck religion
>fuck ideology

>>12445730
He cute

>>12437939
Lol how are you this spooked

>>12438843
What spooked you, boy?

>>12437949
This. There is only egoism. Every chosen act is a selfish act at some level

Get money

>>12437929
Begin by reading it

>>12443205
Thanks for proving that Stirnerism is the ideology of niggers stirnerfag

>>12437929
Stirner is basically the sandbox mode of ethics, there is no prescriptive aspect. Just do whatever you want.

Sounds easy but a lot of scared ideologyfags can not cope with not having someone tell them how to live so they hate Stirner for wrecking their beliefs.

>>12438843
Ayn Rand may seem similar to Stirner on the surface, but in reality she's the kind of spooked bitch Stirner absolutely despises.
>You should ONLY do things that rationally benefit you
She forced an ultimatum upon herself, that's very spooky shit.

>>12447168
>nigger
spook

>>12447975
>spook
nigger

In the wikipedia article on "The Ego and Its Own", it says

>To attain autonomy, the individual must free himself from all forces, such as ideologies, religions, ethics, other persons and even their own desires. For Stirner, Eigenheit is the only good

What exactly does this mean? Eigenheit apparently means 'Ownness' or 'Autonomy', but apparently Stirner says we should free ourselves from our own desires. So if you strip out the above list and add desires to it, where else is there to go? I mean, what should rule a person if even desire is ruled out?

>>12443483
>I don't get this obsession with nailing nails with hammers, can't we just hammers for the sake of hammers?

>>12447972
And Rand would despise Stirner for being a whim worshiping faggot who is worse than useless for the fight for extolling ego.

>>12448073
It's truly remarkable how German autism managed to lead them to Buddhism through the opposite course

>>12445984
This is a useless means of assessment that Rand took particular issue with, "Psychological egoism". The basic fallacy in the "everyone is selfish" argument consists of an extraordinarily crude equivocation. It is a psychological truism, a tautology, that all purposeful behavior is motivated. But to equate "motivated behavior" with "selfish behavior" is to blank out the distinction between an elementary fact of human psychology and the phenomenon of ethical choice. It is to evade the central problem of ethics, namely: by what is man to be motivated? Psychological egoism doesn't even rise to the level of a false theory of ethics. It is a non-theory that abdicates responsibility for offering principles to guide human choices. There is a reason why Rand called selfishness a virtue. Self-interest is not automatic; it must be understood and chosen.

>>12437929
unironic answer:
stop worrying about spooks like identity politics and politicised ethical issues
only apply morality to the people present in your life, anyone beyond that may as well not exist
never pay for any digital medium unless you absolutely have to

The holy spirit is literally a spook.

>>12448877
just checking my own triple dubs

>>12437929
Read postmodernists instead, accept subjectivity instead of following spooks like: "do what thou wilt"

>>12437929
>how can i be a selfish hedonist
arent you one already?

>>12448838
never pay as in pirate everything or just use open source, linux, etc?

>>12437929
grand larceny

Mainly you should be existentially authentic to yourself. Examine your ideas, and ask yourself why you hold them, be prepared to move past an idea that no longer serves you and be honest with yourself as to why you hold an idea.

>>12438167
Yeah, kinda. It's a harder proposition than it sounds.

>>12448073
That's a botched reading of Stirner. It's not a good, it's just a potential value. You also don't really have to free yourself from forces, accepting them if it serves your interests to do so is also a viable option.

>>12437929
You shouldn't

>>12437929
Milk merchant

>>12437929
>>12451740

>>12450101
either is fine, just don't kid yourself that your paying 10$ will impact anyone's livelihood in any way
I guess giving to really small indie artists is understandable, but otherwise it's better to buy some homeless person a sandwich if you're feeling charitable - you may actually improve someone's life for a moment instead of wasting your money on buying a bunch of arbitraily priced ones and zeroes

>>12451740
>>12451744
Fuck off pseud.

>>12452185
if anyone's interested in taking this line of thought to it's logical conclusion:
https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities

Start doing nice things for the people you love through the consciousness of your egotism

>>12452637
egoism=\=egotism
Mind the difference

>>12437990
Trolling is a art

>>12452403
>https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities
>giving money to shit that doesnt even tackle the root of the problems
These charities are the equivelent of giving water to the poor every time they need instead of teaching them to get water or building infrastructure that can provide with water to them without need for importation. I feel like many of the times this is a much lost cause and you are only extending the life of a african kid for a few more weeks of sufering, or causing even more dependence.

>>12439154
My pooperty

>>12437929
>do whatever you want
>make the same one unfunny joke any time someone points out how retarded you are

>>12453909
well, that statement sums up his philosophy completely

>>12449560
>read postmodernists instead

>Johann Kaspar Schmidt (25 October 1806 – 26 June 1856), better known as Max Stirner, was a German philosopher who is often seen as one of the forerunners of nihilism, existentialism, psychoanalytic theory, postmodernism and individualist anarchism.[4][5]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Stirner

Nigga, Max Stirner was the original postmodern nigga

>>12453736
>feel

>>12437929
Walk as if you own the planet

>>12437929
Just wrote an essay about him. Planning to publish so can't share but it was regarding the contradiction between the representation of language and the uniqueness of individuals. I was exploring Stirner's egoistic anarchy as a possible solution.

>>12456256
Yes, Brother. You and I. We're planting the seeds, and others like us.

>>12437929
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>>12453628
What is the difference?

>>12437929
I cant believe there are unironic stirnigs on this site these days
HE IS A MEME

>>12458254
https://youtu.be/A8aQYrTnI-U

Whats funnier, Stirniggers or Randniggers?