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Reminder that even if God existed, there is no actual logical reason to follow his moral codes willingly.

>> No.12427874

t. Satan

>> No.12427887
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Logic is a meme.

>> No.12427899

Love is a good reason.

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>>12427887
Thomas doesn't agree.

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>>12427887
this desu

coincidentia oppositorum for days

>> No.12427923

BASED

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>>12427863
>assumes will is something more than a complex manifestation and interaction of biological impulses

>> No.12427951

>>12427863
what are you talking about?
it’s begging the question—if God exists, Mr. Puny, there’s good reason to do what God says

>> No.12427972

>>12427951
Why?

>> No.12427992

>>12427951
My dick exists so there's good reason for you to suck it, slave.

>> No.12428000

>>12427951
>>12427992
GET REKT CHRISTFAGGOT

>> No.12428004

>>12427899
Everything is love. Every action is an action of love, only a child sees love as need

Suffering is pleasure, pain is pleasure, only a child feels fear at threats of punishment

All of being is divine. Christians are emotional and intellectual children

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>>12427863
if God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him

>> No.12428032

>>12427863
God clearly exists. Even if it's just as a character in the Bible. You doubt that he's real, not that he exists.

The reason to follow the rules of the Bible is because at a bare minimum it is 3000 years of knowledge of western culture accumulated in a document that has been passed down through the ages.

Ask yourself if your life would be better or worse if you lived as a good Christian, regardless of the scientific truth.

If you didn't watch pron, if you got married and had kids, if you gave to charity, if you built permanent and meaningful bonds with your neighbors and community.

If you acted as if the bible was real your life would be good.

>> No.12428044

>>12428023
Why would you abolish yourself? :^)
t. Eastern mystic

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>>12427863
/thread

>> No.12428058

We found god and it was scared, you idiots

>> No.12428061

>>12428032
The Bible isnt particularily smart about its moral rules. Following almost any human moral rule with some years of trajectory is useful since they all share some common grounds.

However, it still doesnt give you a logical reason to follow God rules just because God exists. Plus shit like avoiding porn or not masturbating its just christian wankery.

>> No.12428076

>implies god exist
omegalul if god existed there wouldn't be thousands of religions.

>> No.12428124

>>12428032
>The reason to follow the rules of the Bible is because at a bare minimum it is 3000 years of knowledge of western culture accumulated in a document that has been passed down through the ages.

And when you get sick you balance your humors, right, christcuck? The fucking ignorance of people who managed to learn to read never seizes to amaze

>> No.12428133

>>12428004
books with this vibe?

>> No.12428149

>>12428124
*ceases

>> No.12428228

>>12427972
If in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
—you grant all of the above, then say there’s no logical reason to follow the Word
—logical reason is the Word is the truth
American law used to be based on Natural Law, you know

>> No.12428309

>>12427863
>ill just be a dumbass and spend eternity in hell

retard

>> No.12428350

>>12428309
>retard

"whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire"

>> No.12428436

>>12428309
And this is why I added the word "willingly" there, you absolute mongoloid.

>> No.12428504

>>12428309
hell is heresy

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>>12428061
>Plus shit like avoiding porn or not masturbating its just christian wankery.
That's what you say now because you are young and full of potential. But the days turn into months, and the months turn into years. You bury your head in the vast ocean of information that is the Internet and the false friendships of social media. One day you wake up 40 years old and realize that you don't have a wife and will never have children. You realize you were meme'd into being the 60% of men who live and die without leaving anything behind. You squandered your potential and your ancestors warned you. They gave you the blueprint to a meaningful life and you ignored it because it wasn't literally true.

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>>12428124
The scientific method has proven itself a superior method to treat illness than Humorism. Nihilism hasn't proven itself to provide a better meaning to an individual's life than Christianity.

>> No.12428687

>>12428594
You act as if watching porn and jerking off while having a family and a future was impossible.

>> No.12428712

>>12427863
I dunno not burning in hell for eternity is a good one. Or whatever he has in store for people who disobey, I wouldn't really want to test an omnipotent being unless it was necessary(like I need to get my quick nut)

>> No.12428715

>>12428687
The problem is more about porn than masturbation. It's about not letting it rule your life. It's about it stopping you from trying to meet women. It's about ruining the relationship you manage to get by letting your libido be destroyed. It's about never being satisfied because you have unrealistic expectations about sex and women.

>> No.12428724

God may or may not exist anon, but suffering certainly does.

Through your lifestyle you can increase or decrease suffering. Choose wisely.

>> No.12428731

>>12428661
Nihilism may come after one discovers the shortcomings of Christianity, among other things, and is ultimately a bridge to be crossed. You act like it's the only alternative.

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>>12427940

>> No.12428762

>>12428731
>a bridge to be crossed
So what's on the other side of the bridge? I'm 41 years old and was atheist for 30 of those years. Eventually you discover that Humanism is just the second part of the same bridge and it leads back to where you started.

>> No.12428769

>>12427863
The reason is that it would be your actual telos as a human.

>> No.12428821

>>12428715
Sure, but one can still enjoy porn without being addicted. So a total wanking/porn prohibition is just mindless or a scare tactic. And the mere fact such prohibitions exist show that christian morality, while good in general or in intent, has enough stupidity that it shouldnt be considered an absolute rule to follow. This besides the original God debate, as there are no actual absolute rules to follow imo besides the ones from reality.

>> No.12429257

>>12428733
Trust is also chemicals. Mickey cannot demonstrate that there is a 'self' discrete from the chemicals which is free to trust or not. Mickey admits to a technical uncertainty, in which case establishing probability with empricism is the best we can do -- and so Donald is more likely correct as all evidence thus far supports his position.

Nihilism is not an abdication of the 'fight' or having values as this meme suggests, it is only an understanding of the provenance of values (namely us).

>> No.12429270

>>12427863
What is the philosophical argument for existence of God?