/lit/ - Literature

>>12418582
who told you V and U were different letters?

EVROPA

>>12418582
Funny thing, in French it's called Double V

>>12418703
A girl I knew had a double v. I got a friend to help. Does that make me gay?

>>12418582
In Spanish is "doble v".

>>12418887
Anon that other hole was just her butthole.
And as long as balls didn't touch it wasn't gay.

>>12418582
In German it's just 'we' (pronounced 'vay')

>>12418944
Depends on the country

>>12419139
promounced vay, as in “oy vey”?

>>12418582
Romans probably

>>12418582
>>12419204
Non-Romans, actually.
It's pretty interesting.
Back in the good ole Roman days, the letter U didn't exist. There was only V. This was fine, because the modern V sound didn't exist in Latin. V would be pronounced as either an U or as a WH- sound.
Eventually, the language shifted. The WH- reading became the normal V we know today. Again, this was fine because people spoke the language and could naturally differentiate between them.
Enter foreigners. They learned how to write from the Romans, but ran into a problem: they had no way of representing their WH- sound.their language had.
So they invented a new letter by stapling together 2 Vs.
Polacks ran in the same problem when they learned the alphabet from Germans, since by then the German W became a V sound too.

>>12419241
So Veni vidi vici = Weni widi wici? lol that sounds retarded

>>12419247
The classical pronunciation would sound like "wainy weedy weeky"

>>12418582
Basically u and v used to just be different ways of writing the same letter. So a "double u" is the same as a "double v".

>>12419247
Yes, Weni Widi Wiki
And Cicero is actually Kikero.
Look at the Greek contermporary names of places. Pretty interesting.
The letter F is just as retarded.

>>12419296
The classical pronunciation sounds terrible and anyone who learns Latin should use the Italian pronunciation.

>>12419296
And Caesar is kah-eh-sar not seesir. Fucking Americans.

>>12419323
"ae" is a diphthong in Latin, not two separately pronounced vowels.

>>12419377
Depends on the period.

>>12419377
So Cæsar = Kæsar.

>>12419323
It has nothing to do with Americans. After Latin became a literary language it was customary for each nation to pronounce it the same as their own language. So Germans pronounced it like German, Italians like Italian, English like English, etc. The classical pronunciation was lost and not recovered until during the Renaissance and was not fully implemented in academia until the late 1800s. There's never been any pressing reason to alter our native pronunciation of these words when speaking our own language. And it's the same elsewhere. Do you think Italians say Kikero? They say Chichero.

>>12419417
I know, I was just baiting.

>>12419263
Wtf I hate romans now

How do I say Vagina in Latin?

>>12419548
wah-GEE-nah, the "g" pronounced like in "got"; the literal meaning is the sheath of a sword

>>12419310
Wish people said the same about Greek.

>>12419584
I actually feel similarly about Greek, that the modern pronunciation sounds better. Greek faces a unique difficulty, though, which is that the modern pronunciation contains only five vowel sounds, but these sounds can be written in a multitude of ways, particularly the sound /i/, which be written as ι, υ, ει, οι, υι. The modern pronunciation makes learning the language much more difficult by complicating the spelling.

>>12419607
>The modern pronunciation makes learning the language much more difficult by complicating the spelling.
This is the only thing the modern language is harder than the ancient though.

>>12419296
Is that a hard i ?

>>12418582

>>12419656
underrated reference

>>12419184
yep

>>12419323
>kah-eh-sar
you had one job buddy and you completely fucked it

>>12418703
in spanish it's called both ways
>"doble ve"
double v
>"doble u"
double u