/lit/ - Literature

>>12407820
>Any book suggestions to fix her?
You don't fix what is not broken.

>>12407820
Probably heart of darkness but I havent finished it yet. Ask her if cutting off hands of peoples children for not meeting production quotas was civilised, because thats what happened in the Belgian congo.

she sounds based not gunna lie

>>12407827
She is very broken, although reticent about her views, only learned them after knowing her for years, since high school.

>>12407820
reminder that Gould was a kike shil who got caught red handed falsifying data

>>12407820
What's this based and redbilled qt's number

>>12407837
>answering anything but "yes it was"
imagine being such a cuck
>12407844
Seriously though have You inquired as of why she holds such views?

So do these types think we should of never bothered with africans at all or were more """""""humane""""" in teaching them to not be idiots

Tears of the White Man: Compassion and Contempt by Pascal Bruckner

Is she cute? I like her already

>>12407837
I was going to suggest Heart of Darkness as well. Do finish it when you have time anon, it's an amazing book.

>>12407820
Have you seen the movie Gods must be crazy?
Maybe she's a stupid whore who thinks materialism=good?

>>12407820
>colonialism vs africa debate
re-frame this as ecology and then you'd have an interesting topic. But sry, I remember meeting a phd. research student once studying the french vs english systems and it is clear that the french always did as Alexander did in founding Alexandria. Adoption of cultures, or canibalism as I have heard it turned by critics from south america, is the french custom of breaking down your culture to subsume it into there own. Whereas the English colonialism created clear distinctions that lead to a sectioning off of cultural communication, (to there folly usually) But this did interestingly create more vibrate culture in some aboriginal culture at first, so the meetings were good outside of statistics sadly.
The saddest shit is your easy reading of entirely complex situation. Maybe get off twitter and read a history book.

>>12407820

She can watch Empire of Dust and have her viewpoint confirmed.

Oh no, sounds like she became a /pol/tard

>>12407837
>current year+++
>he believes a single word of the Congocaust myth
>he thinks pretending to care about Congolese savages on an anonymous image board is a good rhetorical tactic

how embarrassing

>>12407820
Id suggest that she reads decolonising the mind by Ngugi wa thiong o but she’d probably see the name and title and disregard it completely

>>12407820
Your friend is completely right. My ancestors attended British run schools, were treated by British healthcare, ate food produced by British Irrigation projects, lived in and used British made cities and road, and were protected from harm and enslavement by British laws and law enforcement. Had it not been for the British, my ancestors would have been killing and enslaving each other over cattle.

>>12407820
How about YOU read ''camp of the saints''?

>>12408035
So you’re saying not only the violent exploitation of the Congo was a myth, but also the suffering of the Congolese savages at the hands of the colonisers isn’t worth our sympathy? If you’re gonna be edgy and racist at least be consistent in what you claim to be historically true.

>>12407820
She's perfect just the way she is.

>>12408072
Except this isn’t true at all, Botswana was one of the few countries that had little to no colonial imposition and yet is now the most economically and socially independent country in Africa.

>>12408113
Liberia and Ethiopia were never colonized and they're maybe even shittier than their neighbors

>>12408113
Can that even be directly correleated though?

>>12408038
>Ngugi wa thiong
Zarganar
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too many books on british cultural imperialism.
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too many nihilistic american-world cultral imperialism
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bored with justifications for you shilling.
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drink some water and read a book

>January 18, 2019
>she still hasn't read Bruce Gilley’s article The Case For Colonialism

>>12408035
Cool b8 you made me reply.

>B-but white people are civilised would never cut off a childs hand and foot because their father didnt work fast enough

>>12408035
>White people enlightened those violent savages they should have killed more

WTF? Literally every time i start reading a book i start seeing a million threads about it on lit. just started reading heart of darkness a few days ago and havent seen any threads on it before that

>>12408214
https://jacobitemag.com/2017/09/23/colonialism-hong-kong-exit/

>>12407820
>/lit/ spends most of it's time arguing about how x is better than y because of z, doesn't think the same generalities can be applied to race, geographic origin, etc.
Pathetic.

Pascal Blanchard

John Thornton, Africa and Africans in the Making of the Atlantic World, 1400-1680

Jan Vansina, Paths in the rainforests

Naming Colonialism. History and Collective Memory in the Congo, 1870—1960
Osumaka Likaka

African Modes of Self-Writing
Achille Mbembe

An Acoustic Register: Rape and Repetition in Congo
Nancy Rose Hunt

Out of Our Minds Reason and Madness in the Exploration of Central Africa
Johannes Fabian

Hochschild, A., King Leopold’s Ghost

>>12407820

Why, objectively was colonialism bad for Africa?

Why do you disagree with her negative views of Muslims? There are so many negative characteristics of Islam that it would require a thread of its own to list them.

Affirm her beliefs with:

[1] http://www.nber.org/papers/w18162.pdf
Easterly & Levine (2014) find:

• "A strong and uniformly positive relationship between colonial European settlement and development"
• "A stronger relationship between colonial European settlement and economic development today than between development today and the proportion of the population of European descent today"
• "No evidence that the positive relationship between colonial European settlement and economic development diminishes or becomes negative at very low levels of colonial European settlement, contradicting a large literature that focuses on the enduring adverse effects of small European settlements creating extractive institutions"

>>12408284
This is called the baader meinhof phenomenon. The frequency hasn't changed, only your awareness