/lit/ - Literature

Didn't get an answer so I'll repeat the post. My friend has finally pestered me enough to start this series. What am I in for? I only read the prologue so far.

>>12400386
A good first novel, a slow grinding boring slog to get through the next two.

>>12400386
Typical YA fare.

When do I start reading the Kharkanas trilogy in Malazan? Before or after the 10 book series?

Holy shit Titus Groan is the biggest waste of time book ive touched since Catcher in the Rye.

I wonder if the Drowned God religion protects people from Greyscale or maybe the disease thinks they are dead and thus doesn't affect their bodies in some way? Kind of tricking the disease to pass over them.

>>12400386
paper thin characters

>>12400466
Why is GRRM so lame and memey compared to Jack Vance?

>5/52 on goodreads
>4 books ahead
feels good

>>12400386

Magical Ocean's Elven then a political thriller then Dragon Ball Z

>>12400368
Man, the prose in A Scanner Darkly is giving me a headache. Reads like a stream of conscious after the first chapter. Maybe I'm just tired, but I'll stick with it

Did I get meme'd buying the Three Body Problem? Apparently Obama loved it, there is no way it can be good

>>12400629
By a POC, for the POC

Drugs lmao. And I updated the image to more accurately reflect the book.

Download: http://b-ok.cc/book/878958/0c476b

>>12400509

Jack Vance invented, GRRM imitates.

>>12400629
no

>>12400629
I finished that series last week and it was nothing spectacular. Like every other SF book, it presents a few interesting concepts (mostly in book 2) wrapped in boring exposition, pseudo procedural political or military burocracy and literal anime tier tropes.
Throughtout the series, the guy is obsessed with problem solving, the scale of stuff and inspiring gestures of courage or creativity by a few naive or special individuals (literal Mary Sues).
In particular I hated all the long parts where this STEMfag chink tried to write descriptive prose about nature, beauty or romance. It was laughably bad, like an autist from /sci/ trying to write poetry.

The fact one of the characters, a fictional ex president of the US, quotes Legend of the Galactic Heroes in the middle of a dialogue should give you an idea of what sort of book to expect.

He should've stuck with the structure of the first book (short chapters, few PoVs), but no, he had to reinvent the fucking wheel in book 2. Book 3 is all over the place.

>>12400797
And another thing. All the technobabble was sloppy and inconsistent. I don't get why a scifi author would spend dozens of pages explaining current time Physics theories (like electromagnetic radio transmissions), obviously trying to give his plotting some credibility, and then introduce huge technological and scientific leaps with nothing resembling a brief definition (neutrino radio transmissions).

>>12400852
Eh, neither neutrino or gravitation based interstellar communication is a new idea. I assume the author did not want to speculate to much in regards to technology that is not 100% fantasy. Unlike his particle folding and dimension fuckery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_communication#Other_methods

>>12400368
>whats the current popular scifi/fantasy books you already read that are not completely trash
Too Like the Lightning is fantastic and was a Hugo finalist so I guess that counts.

I loved Shadow Over Innsmouth but a large portion of the story felt like this guy telling the MC "Don't go down that road"

Just finished Old Man’s War, most boring sci-fi I’ve ever read, just a bunch of tropes stuck together by uninteresting characters who all have the same kind of snarky dialogues
Does this series by some miracle get better or should I just drop it?

>>12400965
no, it gets worse but i enjoyed the first book and finished it all the way through the end of all things

>>12400920
Imagine I wrote a SF book about transportation.
Because I know about steam engines, I wrote 80 pages describing in detail the physical principle and the manufacturing methods.
Then fast forward 50 years, I mention combustion engines. I don't know shit about them but I have the owner's manual of my Ford F150 which briefly describes the engine, so I copy paste 2 or 3 paragraphs to make it sound like a feasible technology.
50 years later I mention in passing those trains that use magnets, and 30 years later I introduce warp engines without even an explanation. Then a ship using warp engine observed a supernova and the science officer in the ship explains for 3 pages what they just saw.

That's almost what this Chinese autist did. The balance between educated and speculative exposition was all over the place and it hijacked the narrative for no apparent reason.
And then, in the middle of this autist's wet dream, characters are able to communicate complex thoughts and carry on dialogue exchanges using only their fucking eyes. Because it's poetic and profound, lol.

I swear I will never understand what people like about science fiction like this.

>>12400641
>mfw the crack scientist design a silencer that magnify the sound of a shot instead of silencing it
>and is happy about it

Anybody read Kings of the Wyld? I’m about a quarter of the way through and it’s not bad. The prose aren’t anything to write home about and the author has a habit of overusing parentheses to go back and contradict a character’s precious thoughts as a joke. But the world building is decent, the plot is serviceable, and I like the central premise of getting a group of legendary mercenaries back together for one last mission; even if the author takes the whole “band” metaphor to far.

>>12401100
>the boys are back in town

>>12401100
Cringe

>>12401100

Looks like fantasy for Deanos

>>12400386
Waiting five books until the best character comes back. spoilers

>>12400641
I don't think I'll finish Midnight Tides in time to read this. :-(

>>12401100
the first book is decent

>>12401100
I dropped it about halfway through. I thought the main characters where alright (I liked the faggot wizard) but everything apart from that sucked. The villains were the final straw for me. They were too cheesy and cliched. The humor was pretty bad also. Wasn't the King character literally called The Cuckold King? What the fuck.

This mixes vampires-gods-magic-technology-swords-guns in an original manner.
I'll give it a 8/10.

What is the best place to download scifi books? I want to read Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

>>12401387
Trolling is supposed to be subtle anon.

>>12401394
It is not trolling, I am from /m/ and this is my first visit to /lit/.

>>12401407
Then you should subtly vacate the premises. Your kind is not welcomed here.

>>12401387

Just buy it you peasant or save yourself the time and read Foundation.

>>12401407
Lurk moar

>>12400386
The most godawful beginning I've ever read. It was a chore to start and continue. I dropped it halfway through.

>>12401387
Bibliotik
MyAnonymouse
Libgen
Google
Nyaa.si (for weaboo shit)
The pirate Bay
#bookz@undernet

>>12401394
The future used to look much better.

>>12401476
Thanks anon, I appreciate the help.

>>12401490
Everything seems better looking back.

Damn Elric is based.

>>12401520
>>12401490
remember when sci-fi used to be about discovering new places, using technology to better people's lives, solving issues with diplomacy, and making friends along the way?
Now it's just always space terrorists, space traitors with doomsday weapons, faceless ethically-unquestionable hordes that kill everyone, people choking to death in the cold careless empiness of space, corrupt mega-corporations selling humans into slavery and/or death, war against evil empires,
fuck my life does anyone have any light hearted semi-hard sci-fi?

Is it any good lads?

>>12401100
Dropped it about 5 pages in, some of the most cringey shit Ive ever read

>>12401100
I dropped it. The worst trash I read last year. It's one of those "lets get the band together just one more time and do a show" type of books.
The humor was atrociously bad, when they were robbed a second by the same people, that someone turned up the same place they were going, I knew that was it for me and dropped it like hot cakes. I'm sure those same women rob them again.

All those positive and lengthy reviews were super misleading. Never touching that book or the author again.

>>12401369
Don't read past book one.

>>12400453
kek, it's pretty weird

>>12401632
It's kinda boring but the ending is kino

>>12401589
A long Way to A Small Angry Planet.

His hand was weak, like a woman's

>>12400538
Why does it always have turn into Dragonball ;/

>>12401859
Are you kidding. It's excellent and just gets better as you go on. At least til the end of Foundation and Empire, that's how far I read.

>>12402143
>i'm the decider of tastes an quality
>you are not allowed to not like, what I like
>everything was excellent in this book, so you need to changes your tastes to match mine

>>12402239
She's not wrong.

>>12401476
You forgot mobilism

>>12402005
sexist

>>12402251
She?
>>12402239
Now you're getting it Anon. You're the kind of Rothfuss-enabler that's ruining genre fiction.

>>12400558
>Man, the prose in A Scanner Darkly is giving me a headache.
Glad I'm not the only one. I keep having to go back over certain parts. I'm enjoying it but it is a bit of a slog at times.

>>12402517
I think what makes it hard, especially for me, is the thoughts aren't in quotes. So it makes it harder for me to follow personally.

>>12401428
Hey man don't compare /m/ to the other common filth, it is a fine board
>>12401387
Read the sticky

>>12401589
Hollywood/Star Wars and "WHY CAN'T SCIFI JUST BE FUN WHY DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE IDEAS?!?!" retards happened.

I'd suggest the Vorkosigan series. It's very much on the "space opera" end of things but it's very much about people doing stuff instead of endless whizz bang boom action scenes and Asimovian descriptions of how the Turbo Encabulator makes space travel possible.

>>12401589
Yeah pulp adventure scifi never existed in the past you lying retard

>>12401369
Yikes.

>>12400368
canticle for liebowitz
bought it for 25 cents, great book.

>>12401589
It was never about this. You completely missed the point because you’re a fucking retard

Thanks for recommending the sword itself. On the second book on audible, it's an excellent audio book.

>>12400466
Or maybe it’s just hard to become a leper when you’re already living on an isolated island

What are some funny fantasy books that a aren't Terry Pratchett's

>ANOTHER weekend goes by where I have yet to commit myself to a writing project
Imagine sitting on an entire list of book ideas and being too scared to start even one.

>>12403084

Would be a cool plot element in Winds if Victarion schismed from Euron and created his opposite Drowned God religion with Moqqoro. If he manages to heal a bunch of people I think he'll gain quite a lot of support and attention from Daenerys.

>>12400641
Finishing this up tonight

>>12403092
Jack Vance's Cugel books

>>12401362
>The Cuckold King
i haven't read the book but can i introduce you to this niche little genre called "Arthurian Legend"
it's probably a reference to that
(the author probably doesn't care about internet memes about calling people a cuckold, retard)

>>12401362
>>12404145
>The Cuckold King
Based

>>12401100
Why would you read a book with such a fucking tagline? Curious about what's this about.
Who are these "boys"?

Is it grimdark? Are there orcs? other races?

>>12400920
the sophon stuff pissed me off to an unbelievable degree.

Also, neutrino and gravitation-based communication would be a fucking joke in real life. gravitational wave antennas would need to move the mass of whole stars to produce a signal that doesn't propagate any better than radio waves, and neutrinos actually move slower than light with the added bonus of being nearly undetectable. There are trillions of them passing through your body every second but we need mile-wide swimming pools just to detect a single collision a month

Also, sophon would have been a one-time communication

>>12402813
The book is 60 years old, hardly current desu

>>12401100
>"the boys are back in town"
>wYld

mom's gunna freak

You're in the club and this guy walks up to your gf and rubs her pockmarked cheek while grimacing. What do you do? I know what you're thinking, but you absolutely cannot lick the hardened oatmeal from your toothless gums.

>>12404554
Suck my gums

>>12401632
i wasn't a fan

>>12404554
I ask the questions here.

>>12404554
Does he say grimace that often, or is it just that on the audiobook, it's pronounced Grim-Ace and I notice and hate it every time I hear it?

>>12404933
ESL here
I thought that WAS the correct pronunciation?

>>12405019
Nope, soft "a."

>>12401912
God this is awful. A book about SJW super best friends going around being nice to everyone.

It’s just so fucking dull

any good scifi that dont get mentioned a lot here?

>>12404182
This is why STEM fags can't read scifi. Your brains never turn off.

anyone here read this https://www.goodreads.com/series/50673-legend
how is it

Any fantasy with a fall of the Roman empire vibe?

>>12405335
YA

>>12405479
Plague of Angels

>>12405479
Fall of the Roman Empire Vibe by Falro Empvibe

>>12405178
Lord of Light

>>12405746
>Lord of Light is not mentioned a lot here

>>12405178
BotNS

>>12405740
Based

>>12405335
Read and tell us. I am not averse to YA or romance, so I'll wait your opinion.

>>12405780
>BotNS is not mentioned a lot here

>>12405335
>>12405794
The amount of ""awards"", the female author and the distopian settings paint a black picture though. Still, it could surprise you. Let me know how it goes.

>>12405178
>good
Relative. I liked Children of Time. Then ending ruined it for me, though. But there's a sequel coming in may and I don't want to admit it, but I want to see how it goes.

>>12401369
>original manner
More like an all-over-the-place manner. I make scrambled eggs that have more structure than that book. It surprises me how people can seriously read that and think "this is good writing!".

Am I a faggot?
I fap to anime pictures of girly looking boys in dresses. If I encounter them in sff I instantly get a boner. I don't like guys, but if something looks attractive and female, I want to fuck it.
Why are authors trying to confuse their readers?

>>12405854
yes, you are a faggot and a degenerate
only jesus can save you now

>>12405868
Or maybe we should kill all men who dress as women? If only women look like women, then I won't be gay if I'm attracted to them.

>>12405854
>I fap to anime pictures
TL;DR you are a faggot

>>12405938
By "anime" I mean asian created. I don't fap to anime characters in porn. It's just the usual looking people with incest, tomgirls, milf, aunt, granny. Same stuff I look for in my sffg reading.
Although I don't actively look for faggot shit in sff, but if they do a trap reveal, I might still continue.
Books like hogg and dhalgren are too faggot for me.

>>12405854
Stop worrying about inane shit. I feel the same way about fucking reverse traps and I'm a girl. Some artists and d/ic/ks are lazy and only bother practicing with nudes with one character. Other times drawing a girl and calling it a boy is clearly designed to make you want to fuck it.

How many traps do you see in real life that are as convincing as animu traps? None. So it clearly has no basis in reality. Also fictional characters aren't real.

>>12406013
>I feel the same way about fucking reverse traps and I'm a girl
so you're just a lesbian?

>>12405309
i can read scifi just fine. its fake hard-scifi that pisses me off. don't present your scifi as hard scifi if you don't do your damn research

also, fuck retcon and elastic fate time travel. stable time loops and many worlds are the only ones that make sense

>>12406085
look at this idiot not knowing what hard scifi is

About to read Blindsight what will I think of it

>>12405178
Masters of Rome

>>12406134
>what will I think of it
Space vampires are great lmao

>>12402574
/lit/ is a bunch of edgy teenagers that think they're deep because they read "real literature", so you might as well leave. MaM has LOGH, if you have an account with them.

>>12406134

what percentage of history's most famous fantasy stories would you say are "adventures" as opposed to stories where the MC sleeps in the same bed every night?

id say most but im not sure why

>>12406134

>>12405178
Gather,Darkness by Fritz Leiber

>>12406085
You should read Foundation,asimov explains why you are a retard if you read scifi for the science

>>12405479
Harry Turtledove’s Misplaced Legion

>>12401057
It was a single bullet gun too IIRC

>>12401130
That's a great Thin Lizzy song

>>12405178
Dossadi Experiment.

>>12400368
>current popular scifi/fantasy books you already read that are not completely trash
Murderbot Diaries. Someone here recommended this last year, it's very short and sweet and it is focused on a self-aware AI.

>>12402624
>>12403066
>"WHY CAN'T SCIFI JUST BE FUN WHY DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE IDEAS?!?!"

>>12405178
Gap Cycle

how does this seem as a macguffin

>a coin minted from a fallen star
>throwing it in a sacred fountain will give you one wish

>>12407421
the fuck is a fallen star and how are you minting coins out of it

>>12407421
hallmark movie-tier

>>12407509
he probably means a meteorite. meteorites commonly contain iron and other metals. composition is usually different than what is found on earth but they still have usable metals. metoric iron is commonly used in crafts. since its mostly made out of iron and nickel. sometimes even with parts of silver or even copper. eskimos for example use it to make spear heads. theres also a statue or two made out of the stuff. theres nothing really special about it though.

>>12407539
in mythology star metal always has magical properties. plus, people do wish on shooting stars

>>12407532
the way i see it playing out is too dramatic to be a hallmark movie. im thinking a vicious battle with a monster who wants to be a god. a fallen hero cradled in his lover's blood-drenched arms. a dream sacrificed for the love of another

>>12406882
Added to goodreads list, thanks anon

>>12407300
I'm trying to finish up Gap Cycle right now but the last book is really fucking dragging
Like shit keeps happening but it feels endless

That being said, excellent series, I have loved it

Wuxia fans, what have you been reading, what do you recommend, what should people avoid?

Currently reading Renegade Immortal, it's pretty epic so far.

Desolate Era is good.

I Shall Seal the Heavens is ok.

Coiling Dragon is meh.

Magus of the Warlock World is trash, it's a shame because the translation probably has the best prose of any wuxia I've read and the MC is red pilled as fuck but everything else is dogshit.

>>12407664
I'm currently reading Midnight Tides and it is really fucking good.

I just read the newest chapter(s) of To You, My Immortal and Tower of God.

>>12407683
oops I saw "what are you reading" and jumped on it.
Read Feng Shun Ji already you wuxia faggots.

>>12407421
Scrap the fountain part and nerf the wish.

>>12407624
When I post something for months, it's ignored. But let another anon post about the same thing and you fags jump on it.
Go fuck yourself.

>>12407664
I managed to get to chapter 700 of WMW before dropping it. I enjoyed the MC's progression, at least. It gave me that shounen feel. Will look into your recommendations.

>>12407805
Your chart is full of crap though.

>>12407624
What list?

>>12407805
>contractor
>demons of astlan
>ssosh
>cradle
>house of blades
It's like you made a chart of books I dropped. Some good ones in there, but not many.

>>12407805
>make list of shit you've read
>accept no other suggestions
>wonder why nobody bothers with you
hashtag whoa

>>12407805
That's just garbage and smut. It's not a wonder no one gives a fuck.

Has anyone read the way of kings - the stormlight archive? And what were your thoughts on it? I'm thinking of picking it up but I'm still unsure.

>>12407805
Why are furries in this and do you think anybody is going to take you seriously when you do that?

>>12407805
Half that shit is harem, neck yourself you filthy degenerate.

And Murderbot is published by Tor now and sold at exorbitant prices, it's not self published any more.

>>12405178
Spin

>>12407830
I hated that fucking AI chip in WMW, pissed me off with how blatantly op it was. The writer uses it as a crutch to solve every single problem the MC runs into. MCs entire prowess as a scientist is asking the AI chip to solve problems for him.

Definitely check out Desolate Era and Renegade Immortal though.

Desolate Era is good for the first 70% and reaches god tier in the last 25-30%.

Haven't finished RI but I can already tell it's a cut above most other wuxias. The MCs character for one isn't static, it changes with his experiences, there's actual progression in the way he thinks and acts. The first 15% or so is a little hard to get through because of this, at least it was for me since I assumed that was how the MC was going to be for the rest of the series but the writer surprised me and there's actual character progression and more importantly in hindsight everything makes sense as to why I found the MC to be unlikable.

>>12407871
>Has anyone read the way of kings - the stormlight archive
Yes.
>And what were your thoughts on it?
Quite mediocre and gets worse for every book. I could hardly imagine a more generic story.

>>12407871
>shallan
someone kys myself now

>>12407805
>furshit
>fantasyfaggotry
>smut
Yeah fuck off my man

>>12407871
Yes.
I liked it. It's pretty imaginative.

>>12407664

>I Shall Seal the Heavens is ok

This was recommended to me multiple times by various people and whenever any mention of wuxia would come out it was nearly always recommended. I downloaded the epubs for this to read on my kindle. Managed to read the first 3 books Meng had just escaped the rebirth cave and had teleported to the black lands

Are the others similar? I disliked it immensely after the first book. He went from using his wits and being somewhat humble to a gary stu after 75% of the first book and reading a story about a guy who will always wins got boring quick. I also found the rate a which he gained power really poorly planned out.

Average read. Big Bad, Mini Bad, Big Mystery etc overly long book that relies to much on series oh well it’s better than reading nothing or a bad book and I’m gonna read the next one.

>>12407871
Like everything Sanderson, it slowly turns into Dragonball

>>12408616
>Average
Talk about plebtaste. I've read black revisionism that's more coherent than that book. Be warned, the next book is much worse, from what I hear. I didn't read it myself, I was quite satisfied with my projection of the author's skills by the first book alone.

>>12406165
What are you my mom? I'll do what I want

Fellow writefags, how do you find a writing buddy? I'm a normie and I don't have any friends who write who I can bounce ideas off of or help me edit my sci-fi masterpieces.

>>12408798
It was at least The Emperor's Blades quality. Harry Potter books are worse than those for perspective.

If I liked LoTR, should I read wheel of time series?

Super Sales 3 epub fucking when?

>>12400641
Just finished this. Was a little confused toward the end but the ending was pretty good. The authors note was fucking heavy.

>>12408602
Yes, ISSTH in a way is the archetype for most wuxia novels. MC's almost never losing and being Gary Stus is a given in most of them and wish fulfilment storylines are sort of the point of these things BUT other wuxia novels handle these aspects better than ISSTH does. If you dislike the the core principles then wuxia just isn't for you.
If you want to give another wuxia a chance, I've already recommended Desolate Era and Renegade Immortal, both are a lot more serious than ISSTH. Renegade Immortal is incidentally written by the same author that wrote ISSTH.
If you liked the comedic aspect of ISSTH you can also try A Will Eternal which is ongoing and currently very popular.

>>12408898
It will scratch the Lotr itch but don't expect the same quality, even as someone who likes the books I can tell you large parts of the series is extremely sloggy and heavy on world building without the plot advancing but usually the pay-offs after the slog are worth it. If you like reading for the sake of reading and like getting lost in the world being created I'd say you'll like.
There are a large cast of characters and you will love some of them and absolutely detest some others.
Also, to note, the first book in particular even though it's one of the weaker books in the series is written in a very Lotr-esque manner(heavily inspired by fellowship of the ring) and Jordan admitted he intentionally wrote it in such a way to get published back in the day.

>>12408989
You've been begging for this trash book for months anon stop it. You could have got into mam by now and put up a requests and found the damn thing by now if you wanted it so much. Hell, you can still get it from Mobilism's requests in a few days if you put in some effort but you just keep begging.

>>12408989
The audiobook is out 29th. It will be all over by then.

>>12408993
I just finished it earlier today as well. I was getting a little worried it wouldn't wrap up very well but I was actually pretty satisfied with the ending. Agreed on the author's note though. Apparently, this was the first book he wrote completely sober.
What exactly did you find confusing toward the end though? Just curious.

I prefer to listen (audible) to first person or single PoV fantasy books.

I've listened to almost all the recommended fantasy that has PoV.

Red rising Series
Name of the wind
Blood Song
Street Rats of Aramoor
Dark King Tidings (hated this self-insert fantasy)
Dresden Files (got bored at book 3, heard it gets better)

I've listened to more but can't think of them top of my head. Anyone have any other recommendations? I'm interested in Rage of Dragons by Evan Winter but it's not available in audiobook format. I personally emailed him and he said sometime 2019 spring.

>>12401100

I unironically liked it, sue me.

>>12401100
It's good book but there are much better books out there. And I felt that the sequel, again, was worse than the first book and rehashed it.

So many of these modern authors fuck up later books.

>>12409559
>reading nigga fantasy
lmao

>>12408854
I'd be your writing buddy anon, but I'm socially awkward. I wish there was a /sffg/ discord so that I'd feel less bad throwing my two cents in.

Why aren't there more fantasy books with unusual formats? Journals from far-off worlds. Mock history books. Gimmicky meta-narratives where whatever magic exists within the world of the book influences the novel's format - like House of Leaves.

>>12409731
>not reading the Dick

>>12409731
Fantasy writers are ironically some of the least imaginative out there (except for children's fantasy, that shit can get pretty wild).

>>12409751
>blaming the writers
Publishers, anon.

It's always the (((publishers)))

I've forgotten how to create compelling characters, lads. I sculpt them, but I have no attachment to them. They just, I don't know, feel like they're made for publishers to like them.

How do I kill myself?

Finally done with this. It was fun but lacked some of the complexity and subtlety I wanted.
In the broadest sense, it shared some similarities with TBotNS, but not much. If The Dying Earth series is the starting point and TBotNS is the finish, I'd place Lord of Light between the two.

Any other book by Zelazny that I should read? It's that or I'll try Heinlein.

fuck, had a cool story idea but I just realized that if I make it there is no way it will sell as YA

>>12407664
I am reading Avalon of five elements

>>12409695
you can make one and i'll join

>>12400428
I read afterward.

>>12410059
Jack of Shadows and Roadmarks are pretty good

is there a novel equivalent to this
or something with a similar premise

Am I the only one that's checked this out?

>>12408854
If you leave your Discord I'll add you. If you really suck and are delusional about your skills as a writer I won't stay though.

>>12407871
I read Way of Kings and decided not to read the sequels. It was okay... Sanderson is very creative, the plot was interesting, but unfortunately he's not a very skilled writer. His protagonists are also mary sue-tier. It felt like reading an anime. I guess I'd say if immature YA fiction is your thing, go for it.

>>12408616
Poor lad

>>12410059
Chronicles of Amber

>>12409731
>Mock history books

Sir John Hackett's "The Third World War."

>>12409751
Pretty much this. Like 90% of fantasy writing is just a bunch of ice-skating-uphill motherfuckers trying to make the next Lord of the Rings, except they have no background for this beyond "LORD OF THE RINGS IS MY FAVORITE BOOK!!!" and playing Dungeons and Dragons.

>>12403408
>i have a writing project
>imagine being addicted to instagram and spending at least two hours a day on it instead of writing

>>12411088
>read it because sandersnore said it was "his best"
>reddit sucks his dick so might as well

It was just "oh." felt like an anime in prose format. It made me not want to pick up mistborn.

>a planned series of 10 books
yikes.

>not liking anime
wew lad

>>12409731
Dictionary of the Khazars

>>12400797
which ideas are interesting?

I just finished this. Dunno what to think so I need you guys to tell me.

any decent sffg booktuber?

>>12409695
>>12411051

I'm not on Discord but it sounds like I need to be...and I think the idea of a /sffg/ Discord would be great.

>>12412067
but a discord will just kill the thread

>>12409639
>first thing he did was look up the author instead of the book
I guess that guy ranting before that (((you guys))) reads the author instead of their book was true.

>>12412115
are you dumb? if you search the book title the author will also show up

>>12411329
>yikes
Hey reddite. Only you guys force that meme.

>>12412037
You fuck the AI silently and very fast?

I’m interested in something that has a lot of “Space Politics”. Like I really enjoyed the politics of the “The Expanse Series” even though the story itself was mediocre. I read the first two books because I found the political part fascinating.

Can someone recommend something similar?

>>12410933
Yes, it looks like wuxia esq shit.
Explain it to me.

>>12408602
>great mc went dumb
Yeah that happens, authors start milking shit after a while.

>>12407664
Number one favorite right now is Spirit vessel.
Reverend insanity is also good but it went to shit around chapter 900.

Check out warlock of the magus world, it has a western hint but is one of the more imaginative settings.

>>12412143
Lord of Light

>>12412319
top meme

>>12412143
try the mass effect novellas

>>12409559
The Rook is fantastic.

>>12409695
>>12412067

https://discord.gg/njVCBE6

I made a discord for the purpose of finding writing buddies/feedback partners. I want to stress that this is not an "official discord" for this thread, and I am not a regular poster here so I don't give a fuck about the board politics. In the future I may post the link elsewhere.

This is my first time making a discord server so if I've fucked something up let me know. And no, I will not be making a voice channel.

I'm 1/4 of the way through the Gutter Prayer. World feels about as friendly as Berserk.

>>12412105
Discords only kill shit threads, anon.

>book 5 ends up hot
>book 6 is about another character in events that happened before the end of 5
Why did you do this Maas?

>>12412105
Naw. Only redditers use discord. We will get rid of the infestation if one is made. If 4chan users used discord the site would be dead.

>>12402574
Based ZZ poster

>>12412105
Kek, there was one for a long time, but only redditors used it so the thing shriveled and died.

If I have to read another female theif mc I might just neck myself

>>12413453
Read this, The Thief Who Pulled On Trouble's Braids (Amra Thetys)

>>12412143
My gf is a fan of David Weber's Honor Harrington series. That seems to contain quite a bunch of space politics in addition to the military sci-fi content.

>>12412661
The reviews for The Gutter Prayer look interesting. Recommendable?

can we make discord pls
i need fren to talk to

>>12413541
Die

Here you go guys, there's already a discord you can all join.

https://discord.gg/JtET8yt

Now stop fucking asking for a discord.

>>12413588
>kills /sffg/
Suppose I should thank you

>>12406134
I liked it for the most part, at least the ending.

>>12413552
why are you so rude

>>12402619
Second this, one of the very few humorous AND good scifi series. Or even single books.Plus the quality doesnt drop as the series progresses.

PS dont let the horrible Baen covers scare you off.

>>12413541
fuck no. it would devovle into a wolfe vs sanderson shitposting bonanza. every shouting shit at each other then come the waifu fags. every 4 seconds someone will post a picture claiming it to be his waifu then the erp will take over all the voice channels. classical vs new scifi/fantasy fags will scream at each other like autistic kids being killed in fortnite. there will also be this one girl that all the beta orbiters will flock too. there will be one guy who wants to discuss super sales on super heroes but everyone will shit on him so he fucks of to some other place. then there come the wuxia fags that will argue like autistic college kids about the merits of reading a wuxia in book form or reading the manhua. eventually someone will start to post cp and gore just to fuck with people. after that there will be some sort of drama where it turns out the creator of the discord channel is a tranny and has pictures of him sucking his own cock around. the discord will die and everyone will come back to the general. only this time 3 times every thread this discord debacle will be brought up and no semblance of discussian can take place over all the shitflinging.

how do i know this happens?
it happens literally every day over at /vg/. every general has this happen like once a week exactly as i stated it.

>>12413776
sounds like fun

>>12412003
the whole Dark Forest concept.
Halting scientific progress by force.
4 dimensional "puddles".
Having wallfacers do random shit to throw the enemy off (sadly it ended up being really dumb).


Not much else. Shit was full of anime, like
>Wallfacer, I am your Wallbreaker

>15 months since I started Wheel of Time
>Only starting the 10th book now
>haven't read anything else
>don't even enjoy it

What's everyone's favourite adult novel?

>>12412143
Joel Shepherd's Spiral Wars series is ostensibly a action/space opera series, but a lot of it actually involves the characters having to maneuver through alien political landscapes to get stuff done and find allies.

Some of the Vorkosigan books are fairly politics heavy since the main character is a space-nobleman who's best friend is the emperor, his father is the former regent/prime minister, etc, and obviously he has to deal with stuff involving his family lands and government at times.

>>12413721
Welcome to 4chan
Lurk moar
Also, gb2/plebbit/

>>12414073
i've been here longer than you have, friend

Name a better series.
You can't

>>12414122
> Young Adult

Looks great. Provided you are underage.

>>12414122
The fact you have the autism to troll that shit in every thread isn't impressive, it's just sad.

>>12414165
You too, can be a Soldier for Sarah.

>>12414191
Only if she lets me eat cake out her hole

>>12414122
Stop shilling this crap on here. Even by YA standards this series is a vapid pile of shit.

>reading Blindsight
>there are unironically vampires
????????
I get the usage but why did he have to use “vampire” I cringe every time I read it

I've realised that I have not read any short stories.
What are the scifi short stories everyone must have read ?

>>12414493
The Gentle Seduction by Marc Stiegler
Everyone should read this at least once.

http://www.skyhunter.com/marcs/GentleSeduction.html

>>12405479
multiculturalism

>>12414569
kek, Extremely funny, edgy yet so true. Good post oldfag.

>>12414486
Vampires in space and they are killed by w8ndows lol

>>12414569
That’s not fantasy

The Book of the New Sun was such a masterpiece.

Anything with worldbuilding where quirks are grounded in the world's reality? for example i really liked how in stormlight archives gambling is prohibited because there once was a rebellion based on a prophecy and now all forms of forecast are illegal yet they still find loopholes to gable without there being a chance involved and because figuring out the weather is the most important thing for them. Stuff like that really sells the world to me.

>>12414486
>>12406185

Anything good new in 2018/2019?

>>12414493
For a Breath I Tarry by Zelazny

>>12412619

Thanks anon, I (the frog poster asking for a writing buddy) joined. Since I apparently already had a discord, if anyone else is interested in a writing buddy feel free to add me, rpat102#5352. I'm personally most interested in writing science fiction and modern day techno-thrillers in the vein of Tom Clancy but eventually I'd like to write fantasy as well.

>>12413776
/sffg/ had a discord and it wasn't active enough for half this shit to happen

>>12415247
Fostering Faust
Cultivating Chaos

I wish I was still fully in touch with my inner 10-year-old. I can't remember whether he would have preferred something dark and creepy or something surreal yet still horrifying

Would the average kid prefer to read about the hero facing giant spiders, or stuffed animals with infected needles for teeth and claws that cause the afflicted part to break out in stitches that spread until they seal off all your orifices and you suffocate

>>12415406
who the fuck cares

>>12415406
Here's a spooky story, anon:
Your average kid doesn't read

>>12415413
yeah, no.

Honestly, kids read more than adults do, because most of them haven't been taught to be ashamed of the things they like to read yet.

>>12415441
Anon, have you seen any kids lately? They just play fortnite and fuck around on smart phones.

>>12415456
anon, what the fuck did you think they were doing on their smartphones? I haven't needed a physical book in almost 10 years

>>12413536
1/3 of the way through and the author seems to be quite talented. It's on mobilism anyway.

>>12413776
>Comparing /vg/ to /sffg/
I mean, it's still genre trash, but /vg/ is filled with brainlets, NEETs, and weebs so of course that's going to happen. /sffg/ is mostly filled with s.0yboys and NEETs

>>12415481
>what the fuck did you think they were doing on their smartphones?
they're playing peggle or candy crush or whatever the fuck they certainly aren't reading books

>>12415774
Did you not read because you grew up with a Gameboy in your pocket? Kids read, or at the very least they're read to. I'm not going to deny that the average person is a barely literate dumbass, but generally speaking kids read more

>>12409559
Have you tried "The Knight" by Gene Wolfe? - its a 1st person fantasy . There's a copy of the audiobook on youtube - the quality isn't great, but its passable; perhaps there's a better version somewhere ?

Also, "For the Emperor" by Sandy Mitchell - it's science fiction, but it's light and pretty fun

>>12415544
>/sffg/ is mostly filled with s.0yboys and NEETs
Don't forget the /pol/lies larping as someone who actually reads sff.

>>12414079
you've been here for over 10 years and you still don't understand 4chan culture. good job.

>>12416526
how new can you be to say this lmao

>>12416526
>>12414073
cringe

>>12400428
After, but it isn't finished and he wont finish it for a while.

>>12414165
Many such cases!

>>12414988
>Worldbuilding
Go back

>>12412115
Didnt even have to do that senpai. Just look at the cover art.

Finished the Gap Cycle
Thanks to whoever recommended it, that shit was fucking great
It had so much development and tension that the culmination was orgasmically satisfying

>>12417175
So anything with dragons the author is a black guy? Thanks. I knew those dnd guys were just fronts.

Anyone got good recommendations for genuinely spooky/scary books? Preferably audio books too. Also anything based around zombies or some sort of isolated apocalypse scenario would be best.

>>12415247
I'm reading The Gutter Prayer and so far it's surprisingly good.

>>12417366
Have you considered having your eyes checked? Or are you always this fucking retarded.

>>12415247
2018
Elysium Fire by Reynolds
Early Riser by Fforde
The Freeze-Frame Revolution by Watts

2019
The Gutter Prayer by Ryder-Hanrahan

>>12406085
You're right. Things like quantum entanglement and decoherence have plenty of leeway for imaginative use that aren't completely infeasible from the principles.

>>12417443

Is /lit/, /pol/ now? Book has raving reviews and loved by the normal populace (me)

>>12417443
He starts the book with the word Rage? Do you think only blacks feel rage? I wonder why other people go on shooting spree then.

>>12417432
give starfish a read. Its not "horror" but it will fuck with you. Made it hard for me to sleep.

>>12417639
I think he's implying the guy on the cover is black.

strange writing style, very stiff dialogues, emotionless characters, every single character is making a decision like a fucking teenager, relationship between mc and the cute gril is very forced, and a lot more
i dont even know why i read more than 70% of the book, is the undying mercenaries series also like this?

>BotNS in both Fantasy and SciFi links in the op
Need more books like this

stop memeing botns or else i'll actually read it

>>12418043
Just fucking read it. It's good.

>>12409559
I'm seconding >>12416125
"The Knight" by Gene Wolfe is worth the time if you desire a first person PoV fantasy and the reading is very good.
It's a mix of norse mythology and arthurian legends and christian mythology and it's Gene Wolfe and he knows how to entertain and be smart about it.

>>12417180
I remember feeling that way.
The Gap Cycle is much like one of this hit movies like Inception.
Explodes your mind on first experience
turns out to be false gold over time.

what is the difference between retail epub and normal epub in irc?

>>12418149
retail came from the publisher, normal will be from ocr or converted from another format.

>>12418036
The most obvious answer is Dying Earth, if you have not read it.

>>12418149
Retail means that it's ripped from an ebook source such as overdrive or amazon: what you get is the same as what you'd get if you bought it. A normal epub could be a book scan or an altered retail copy. On a tracker like bibliotik, retail has different stipulations, for example no modified metadata (for example bookmarks or anything added by calibre by opening the file), it can't have been converted/edited/cover art added/ripped by someone other than you etc.

Don't know what copy to pick? Get the retail. Also I'd get stuff off either private trackers (MAM, Bibliotik) or Mobilism before I touch the IRC. This is because the IRC tends to have a lot of weirdly OCR'd stuff floating around.

>>12418047
>christian
Pass.

dead

go fuck yourselves

>>12418624
Selfcest

Any recommendations for somebody who liked the Witcher saga?

>>12417999
Undying Mercenaries series is modern pulp.

>>12418649
Chronicles of Amber

>>12417499
the sad part is, elastic history time travel actually happens on the subatomic scale (at least according to the Copenhagen interpretation, which is the officially accepted version even if it is so unscientific its painful) but most so-called hard scifi writers don't bother to learn the absolute basics. everything ive said could be learned from pbs YouTube channels

>>12418168
Dunno if people actually scan books anymore

>>12418999
Google invested millions, if not billions into scanning books. So yes, people still scan books.

Why are publishing house books so shitty recently? They all feel formulaic. I get better enjoyment from reading books that are not from publishing houses.

What are you fags reading that wasn't put out by a publishing house?

>>12419116
Everyone is copying Sanderson, GURM and Rothfuss.

Which of the last five Malazan books drag and ar shit?

>>12417973
The guy and the woman on the cover are both black. Christ almighty I must be getting baited here

>>12419193
I didn't even notice that. I had to zoom in extra close to see. Damn you pol guys are quick at noticing that shit.

new thread desu

>>12419213
Real easy to notice when it’s tagged as African fiction too. But go ahead and keep screeching, cuckboi. Defend we wuz dragons n shiet at all costs.

>>12419225
Then make one slave

>>12419249
im on my phone right now, and i made the last 2 threads now is your turn

The slave is making excuses again...
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