/lit/ - Literature

>>12380727
Based and redpilled

It was a shit poem but also this is a country full of the most creatively braindead humans to exist on the planet. Middle class tradies and accountants, as far as the eye can say, raising entitled brats with no empathy or drive to recognise the sublime

Half of "The Lucky Country" was about how our resource surplus and isolation will turn us into mindless mining robots, well this is the result

>>12380727
fucking ridiculous the bullshit the media gets away with. ‘indigenous writer’ my ass. the girl is obviously 75+% white... she is the colonizer

>>12380727
Have you read the poem you faggot?
I took this exam (graduated with highest band) and the """poem""" was absolute garbage.
The only reason they put it in there is because it was written by an abo and the government needed to virtue signal.
You're clearly a leftist faggot as well.

>>12380727
Have you read the poem you faggot?
I took this exam (graduated with highest band) and the """poem""" was absolute garbage.
The only reason they put it in there is because it was written by an abo and the government needed to virtue signal.
You're clearly some leftist trying to defend a shitty poem just because it was written by an abo.

>>12380785
Seems fine to me.

>>12380727
>indiginous writer Ellen van Neerven
Indiginous where? The Netherlands?

>>12380804
Aboriginal genes are recessive. So when a fully black abo fucks a white woman, it makes light skinned kids.

>>12380800
>this is adequate testing material for an English final for kids about to go to university
No this poem is absolute garbage.
In the same exam, we wrote an essay on T.S. Eliot's poems.
Compare the two and maybe you'll see where I'm coming from.

>>12380864
>kids about to go to university

Fuck them. University "educated" people are scum.

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>>12380727
Idk what the question was but all you would need to do is write about how the poem’s title and style reflect the way memory works when the author hears/sees the word mango...this appears to be a poem of that nature. Images brought about upon seeing/eating a mango. Literally all you would have to do to get more points is connect it to Proust’s In Search of Lost Time and probably get top marks.

>>12380800
Holy shit. Is this the true power of Australian poetry?

>>12380870
>University "educated" people are scum
Agreed.
More trying to say that I think the exams should be providing a cultured education (e.g. teaching T.S. Eliot and Shakespeare, analysing classical art etc.) rather than giving kids bottom of the barrel poems just because they were written by an aboriginal.

>>12380800
Imagine being so bent out of shape about this poem you don't just write about the obvious sex metaphor she's trying to draw

It's in there because it's so overt. It is supposed to be a simple poem so the kids can make a simple and relevant critique. These kids are so fucking dumb they can't do that, and so entitled they still complain about it.

>>12380727
>get told to analyze poem
>can't
>get mad and message the writer on Facebook
Autists lmao

>>12380890
>It's in there because it's so overt.

The only line really suggesting something like this is "some have never had one" and the fact that she's a girl seemingly alone with boys. The idea that this was 'overtly' sexual at 8 years old is you reading in to it and assuming that the poetry is really supposed to be representative of something else more 'mature' that its subject, which is her childhood memory.

I mean, if it IS a sexual metaphor, then why? What is this supposed to show about sexuality aside from the possibility of it being part of the budding of puberty for her?

>>12380969
>dripping chins

Why would it be required that the literature you analyse on an exam be actually good? Just analyse it ffs.

>>12380969
Keep in mind we're talking about aboriginals. She only mentions that SHE is 8 years old. The "boys" could be in their 40s.

>>12380990
Mangos. You're a cunt.

>>12381013
>some have never had one
Mangos. You're a cunt.

>>12381020
>some have never had one

So that could also mean a day dad wasn't on the sniff.

>>12380990

Not him, but they're eating mangoes.

Even actively seeking sexual metaphor, it doesn't really strike me that way, just as as image of a nostalgic childhood memory.

Also I don't really think they'd put a poem about an 8 year old getting gangbanged in a river with slapping water and dripping chins into a school exam.

>>12381027
KEKEKEKEK

>>12380969
The lines from the dog one down seem to indicate a sexual experience culminating in the orgasm of clouds breaking. The finale line indicates how men forget the humanity of women when using them as a sexual object. It seems to me to be about the transition from childhood innocence to the period of sexual development. I still wouldn’t call it a great poem, but it’s not like they put Rupi Kaur on the test.

Here's some more aboriginal poetry for you guys to analyze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_oK_bgs164&t=88s

>>12380800
>insides of tennis balls
Tennis balls don’t have insides you low IQ abbo cunt.

>>12381065
Write a more formal analysis and I’ll give you credence. Otherwise I view you as one of those idiots who expounds that anytime characters eat at a dinner table in a novel it is really a metaphor for sex.

>>12380890
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>>12381065
You're all retards if you're not trolling. "dripping chins" is obviously talking about the boys' chins unless there are more girls there or they're blowing each other, and "listen to the taste" only makes sense from her perspective listening to the sounds of the boys eating. Even if we are to interpret the mango 'metaphorically' as a symbol of virginity or whatever, it makes no more sense and sheds no more light on her supposed experience. I mean, what's the point of the dog, or the 'mud' then? Is this supposed to be just like my Japanese hentai manga? I think you just suck at reading poetry and don't see how full of concrete detail and imagery that completely goes against you narrative there actually is.

>>12381089
I would, but I’m phoneposting at work. My time and capabilities are limited at the moment.
>>12381107
I think she’s clearly using images of childhood play to describe sex. If the last two lines don’t give it away, rhen you must be unfamiliar with the way sex is talked about by women.

>>12380736
Why is Australia so artless? And why did New Zealand get it all?

>>12380727
>What the actual fuck is wrong with Australians?

i want you to find a poem called "The Crab Feast" by David Malouf, and deconstruct it.

go on. we'll wait. it's okay, he's Australian, and gay.

>>12380752
the lubras were fucked by every white man who ever landed in the first hundred years of colonisation, so there's literally hundreds of thousands of people who can claim a tiny fraction of Aboriginal descent. i worked with a guy who was 1/64th Aboriginal, and he looked whiter than Benedict Cumberbatch. he also got a pretty decent regular payment from the government on top of what he earned.

it's a joke. i could claim to be part Aboriginal simply from living in Carrum Downs.

>>12380800
it's obviously about rape! RAAAAAAAAAPE!

>>12381039
>Also I don't really think they'd put a poem about an 8 year old getting gangbanged in a river with slapping water and dripping chins into a school exam.

you've never hung out with "professional" poets, have you? they walk a minefield as dangerous as any of Stalin's contemporaries. one wrong word and you're dead. poems about 8-year-olds getting gang-banged are, oddly enough, politically safe, because nobody dares criticise them. except the students, who don't have any skin in that game.

>>12381148
>If the last two lines don’t give it away

I'm sure to women that cuming is like having a guy mentioning that he remembered your birthday.

>>12381013
>Cunt. You're a mango.

>>12380727
The public schooling system forces so much political drivel of favoured minorities down the throats of Australian students that by the time they reach the age of 18 they are thoroughly food sick. It's instilled a reactionary hatred of all that is "intersectional" in millions of schoolboys and girls across the country

>>12381071
>What a fuckin' dog user
What did he mean by this?

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>>12381107
GET OFF MY BOARD NOW

>>12381107
This poem could not be more explicitly sexual. Almost every line starting with the "mangoes" part is an obvious (oral) sex metaphor. They're not having sex in the scene, but the boys are obviously talking about it. What are you on about?

>>12380727
she is kinda cute

God Australia is so fuckin badass. Seriously considering moving there. Unironically based.

>>12381148
Explain the last 2 lines I do not get it.

>>12381644
It’s not. It’s a nice country, but there’s not much that’s “badass” about it or its inhabitants.