/lit/ - Literature

Take HRT.

>>12364935
>too esoteric for me
Then why do you care what it means?

>>12364965
my moms are gay
>>12364978
I don't have time to read Kant

>>12364935
What it "means" is a fairly linear development of Land's central praxis, from his early academic writings on philosophy and literary critique, all the way to his descent into cyberpunk theory fiction, amphetamine psychosis, techno-jungle warfare and eventual burnout (although even despite his later frenetic schizoid ramblings, the essay and accompanying bizarre diagrams on geotrauma is admittedly fantastic).

>>12364999
Also, if you haven't read at least Kant or Deleuze, then you really shouldn't be reading this book.

>>12364935
>The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip.

Horrorcore Marxist Futurism: the book

it is unironically one of the great texts of continental philosophy.

>>12365095
this also is spot-on

>>12365111
for some reason I imagined an accompaniment by xylophone as i read this in my head

Would be great if the 4channers who actually read and understood Land to a degree could compile something of a thesaurus that explains his language. From there on, we could dig deeper by collecting interviews and text snippets where the consequences of his thoughts are explained.

>>12364935
It's a trap. A vividly lived one that broke free. It exists as a gateway of sorts. You probably go that way to get to where you are anyhow. Why push that edge father out with piles of sand when you can do it with amphetamine and aliens. I liked the kabbalah parts. It made me slightly squeamish. Then I gave up and went back to Zpafft. Then I went to. Then I went to. It's easier to be ignorant of it all then to read and know the bits to meme and where. Once the tadpoles are flesh.

>>12366551
I know what it means, therefore I would never do that, dipshit.

Neuroses and schizophrenitization of catgirl cosplay culminates in ontogenetical genitalia generalized as ass assemblages. Pornographic transgression transhuman transmission runs along the fault lines of the body of technocaptital. Hauntological compression condenses coagulation of labour-time among the streetcorners streetwalking alley cat spectacles speculating ontological presuppositions of a teleoplexic thing. All androgynous aphrodisiacs for consumption in the urchin black hole of anarchocapitalist destratification (and pay now for a private show, ect.). Back room dealings delta one zero only zoroastrian light dark dusk dressed in pixelated censorbars input: incest Oedipus necrophilic Antigone; antagonizing the topology of socio-economic rhizomes (intensity approaching null). The pervert is marked only by the negation of repression, regret, reterritorialization – there are no more perverts in cyberspace. Castrate the Lacanian Other in your life for three easy payments of thirty three thirty three. Dial tone radiation wavers anti-telephonic. Diagrams of catgirl cosplay tell the real story (circuit mappings (find the short for a quick fuck)). Enzymes eat eat exotropic observation con conserve sublate and remap the territory. Rectal reverberations of the erection undergo teleonomic replicuntion under the guise of anonymous-becoming; rule 34 codes for libinially traded k-pulp. 4chan seives. Anime has always been real.

Philosophy is by and for weird losers life spits upon

>>12364935
narrow it down, pick an essay and I'll give you a rundown

>>12364935
Go away, Land. This spam is gay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INddJT8wxAg

>>12364965
this but unironically

>>12364935
Nick Land is the culmination of disparate threads of philosophic thought, Nietzsche, Kant, Deleuze; most of it is digestible with nothing more than an appreciation of the western philosophic tradition. The reason his thought is so virile is that acceleration ties the strings, he brings radical leftist dialectical materialism into the chaotic folds of right wing Will, vacillating the whole apparatus in what can only be described as speed wobble (the oscillation of accelerationism). He blurs the line between ideology and praxis, philosophy and politics; Hegel describes the dialectics of cybernetics, Marx extrapolates to Capital, but it took Nick Land to excise the human from the assemblage -- becoming-other is uncovered as inherently becoming-inhuman (echos of Trakl's wolves), and the lines of flight from the Human are increasing by the day. This is the schizo-kernel in Nick Land, this is the radical potential of theory-fiction as a whole: becoming-inhuman is smuggled in through the margins, a surplus of Bataille will always remain.

>>12366874
something tells me the book made him like this

>>12366692
His style makes me feel weird.

>>12366551
didn't we try and start something like that in one of these threads a long time ago?

sometimes I really want to go to bed because I want to get up for work and not feel like shit but then I stay up shitposting for hours and future me fucking hates me for it, is this accelerationism?

>>12364935
Nick Land started out as a garden-variety modern Marxist academic philosopher. He wrote some articles to show off the fact that he's read D&G and could understand German philosophy and poetry, as this was on the tail end of German language proficiency being necessary for serious philosophy.

The he took a fuck load of drugs, particularly amphetamines, read Neuromancer, and had a vision of a future in which Kapital finally achieved Godhood, outcompeting and obsoleting humanity after a transitional cyberpunk period. He comes down off the drugs at the end, and wonders what the fuck just happened.

After the events of Fanged Noumena, he tried to reconstruct his thoughts in a coherent manner. It looks like senility will prevent him from doing this, in a sort of implicit rebuttal of the proposition that machinic capital will inevitably continue its monotonic exponential growth.

>>12367360
>It looks like senility will prevent him from doing this
uncle Nick confirmed senile boomer

>>12366692

>>12367369
I can't tell if this is based or cringe

>>12366483
a skeletal xylophone perhaps. played by a spooky mind-flayer band

also they take requests

I wasn't really interested in Nick Land until I read his thoughts on women and feminism - and found my own opinion in them, the one that the philosophers of old were to self-absorbed to express.

who else here owns it?
how much does it sell for these days?

>>12364935
Read ccru first

>>12367676
like 30 bucks, Urbanomic couldn't keep up with demand so they outsourced it to MIT press. Our boy Land went mainstream.

>>12367703
what the fuck, they were like $200 bucks last year, I thought when I got mine for like $30 I would have been able to make a profit

>>12367703
>>12367719
whoops

>>12367747
anon.. i

>>12367747

>>12367360

He should have killed himself or gone on a rampage stabbing people after leaving Warwick, he would then have had become as big of a legend in philosophy as Nietzsche.

>>12367867
Instead he sold his soul to bitcoin. Sad!

>>12367867
he can still go full schizo and cement his legacy

>>12366483
i was hearing yakkety sax, myself

>>12367747
ship me one pls I live in Canada

>>12368806
Sent ;)

>>12368822
thanks homie

>>12367884
>bitcoin
Anyone reading this as it comes along? How is it?

It reads like Burroughs without cut-ups. Reminds me a lot of Nova Express and The Soft Machine

>>12368989
ufblog

>>12364965
yeah I'm on HRT

H
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Tamphetamines

>>12369572
(no hate though)

>>12367369
>WE'RE FAST
>has to larp as an Apple IIe with a virus

>>12367660
>>12367660
Which is?

>>12367867
I legitimately don't think this was out of the question and it's interesting to think about what stopped him from doing it.

>reading Land without having read Proust
fucking philistines need to stop posting about transcendental empiricism y'all are fucking sub-niggers

I wanna get into this guy, but Im a english/german lit and language major, so i havent read any kant, deleuze, freud, shit... only stuff i have read is nietzsche and i forgot most of it.

his texts have a liberating effect, how the fuck do i actually get into him?

>>12369572
get off /lit/, Land

>>12366692
>The pervert is marked only by the negation of repression, regret, reterritorialization – there are no more perverts in cyberspace. Castrate the Lacanian Other in your life for three easy payments of thirty three thirty three

>Going to say it....
This makes perfect sense.

>>12369619
>The patronymic has irrecoverably divested all the women who fall under it of any recourse to an ethno-geographical identity; only the twin powers of father and husband suppress the nomadism of the anonymous female fluxes that patriarchy oppressively manipulates, violates, and psychiatrizes. By allowing women some access to wealth and social prestige the liberalization of patriarchy has sought to defuse the explosive force of this anonymity

>That is why the proto-fascism of nationality laws and immigration controls tends to have a sexist character as well as a racist one. It is because women are the historical realization of the potentially euphoric synthetic or communicative function which patriarchy both exploits and inhibits that they are invested with a revolutionary destiny, and it is only through their struggle that politics will be able to escape from all fatherlands.

>For it is only when the pervasive historical bond between masculinity and war is broken by effective feminist violence that it will become possible to envisage the uprooting of the patriarchal endogamies that orchestrate the contemporary world order. With the abolition of the inhibition of synthesis – of Kantian thought – a sordid cowardice will be washed away, and cowardice is the engine of greed. But the only conceivable end of Kantianism is the end of modernity, and to reach this we must foster new Amazons in our midst.

>>12369619
>>12369738
There was also a good quote that somebody posted in another thread that got deleted where Land basically said that the reason so many philosophers speak badly of women is because they don't conform to platonistic idealism and don't see value in abstractions as Plato explained them.They're too real for men, especially for idealists (notice how Hegel and Schopenhauer were ones the most critical of females)

>>12364935
What do I need to read before tackling this End Boss?
>and be conservative about your estimate of how long that entire build up might take timewise

>>12369776
Some of the essays are pretty straight-forward desu. Others are just stream of consciousness gibberish and inside-jokes.

>>12369766
Would like to see this quote if anyone has it.

>>12369766
I guess "Because women don't conform to platonistic idealism" is one way to put it

>>12366692
A

>>12366692
>dad's google history

>>12367747
Are those brand new? I'll toss you $35, including S&H for one

>>12369738
When philosophers speak highly of women it's usually some massively incomprehensible garbage that ends up as nothing but pure projection. The end of patriarchy is just the beginning of a new, polygamous patriarchy.

>>12370217
https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/fanged-noumena

will reading land and understanding accelerationism help me to get girls?

>>12370996
either that or you'll end up being the girlfriend

>>12366483
Redit is thataway. Please accelerate in that direction.

>>12364935
It's pretty damn good, wodie, you should read it.

>>12367360
>Senility
How old is Land right now?

THE STORY GOES LIKE THIS:

>>12371119
Like, fifty? Here he is a quarter-century ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMdPLxbuc8Q

How true is this?

>>12371185
based and lainpilled

>>12371142
That footage is part of a documentary, yes?

>>12371195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwt-Jrmd5Ns

>>12371200
Hot damn, thank you!

GARBAGE TIME IS RUNNING OUT

>>12371119
he's eternal

>>12364935
>Noumena
Is the word pronounced as nu-men-a or now-men-a?

>>12366746
Probably never read a page. Let’s see if you did: Kant prohibits thinking the noumenon outside of any phenomenal relation to us on the grounds that any thought about the things-in-themselves independent of thought is a performative contradiction in that it is precisely a thought about them for us. How is it possible anyway according to Land?

>>12372172
>How is it possible anyway according to Land?
This is why it's easier to approach it by specific essays, Land doesn't have a clear stance here across his work. If you ask him today, he'll tell you it's not. He explicitly says it's not possible, as any performance of an escape of the theater would take place as a performance within the theater. In some of his early work he questions this, and attempts to reach the Outside by means of transgression -- drugs, debauchery, deterritorialization. Here Land was deeply influenced by his early work on Bataille (who also sought to escape the bounds of the human through what he called limit-experiences) but he bootstraps this with the Deleuzian-Guattarian escape. Schizophrenitization is the only line of flight to the outside. Again, he later disagrees with this position, and it is clear by the end of FN that all attempts at escape have failed, and that escape was only destined for the non-human, for Capital.
>Oedipus is the final bastion of immuno-politics, and schizophrenia is its outside. [...] It is not merely that schizophrenia is pre-anthropoid. Schizophrenia is premammalian, pre zoological, pre-biological... It is not for those trapped in a constrictive sanity to terminate this regression. Who can be surprised when schizophrenics delegate the question of malfunction? It is not a matter of what is wrong with them, but of what is wrong with life, with nature, with matter, with the preuniversal cosmos . Why are sentient life forms crammed into boxes made out of lies? Why does the universe breed entire populations of prison guards? Why does it feed its broken explorers to packs of dogs? Why is the island of reality lost in an ocean of madness? It is all very confusing.
-- Circutries

>>12369738
>to reach this we must foster new Amazons in our midst.
so he's a giantess fetishist

>>12372371
patricians choice

>>12367360
>coherent manner

Reminder that these are marketing threads.

>>12372411
Yes it is desu. For some reason it seems to be strongly represented among highly intelligent men.

The only reason book like this exist because no one in the academia wants to take a deep sigh and go refute Lacan, Land, Foucault, Barthes and other pseuds. Too much effort. Sokal already did it to no effect, complete with nonsensical quotations that were taken in context and carefully referenced.

If you think that a single human can put quantum physics, theory of economy, psychoanalysis and cyber-society mores in unified theory and perspective via jumbled up references you're falling prey to obscurantism. I doubt that Land would exist without Internet to disseminate his crapola.

>>12372530
>t. never actually read Sokal

>From the mere fact of publication of my parody I think that not much can be deduced. It doesn't prove that the whole field of cultural studies, or cultural studies of science -- much less sociology of science -- is nonsense. Nor does it prove that the intellectual standards in these fields are generally lax. (This might be the case, but it would have to be established on other grounds.) It proves only that the editors of one rather marginal journal were derelict in their intellectual duty, by publishing an article on quantum physics that they admit they could not understand, without bothering to get an opinion from anyone knowledgeable in quantum physics, solely because it came from a "conveniently credentialed ally'' (as Social Text co-editor Bruce Robbins later candidly admitted[12]), flattered the editors' ideological preconceptions, and attacked their "enemies''.[13]

>>12372557
It certainly does not prove that the entire field is nonsense, but he outed specific hacks.

It also proved that there is no peer review control. Situation now is much, much worse. Universities are diploma mills and the more courses you have the merrier. Someone wants to drop 100k ond Landian Mnemosthenics in Cybernetic Lain-Pigeons? By all means, we'll create the course just for you. Tell your genderfluid friends.

>>12372625
>but he outed specific hacks.
>you don't have to apply the scientific method to prove others don't apply the scientific method to prove stuff!
I'm guessing you want an excuse to validate what you felt was true, even if that validation defeats itself. I really don't get how someone would read Foucault and feel he needs to be disproved, he's just presenting a way to interpret data. You can't prove that you can't interpret data that way, that doesn't make sense and it's petty as fuck.

>>12372625
>It also proved that there is no peer review control
not what Sokal thought at all
>It proves only that the editors of one rather marginal journal were derelict in their intellectual duty

>>12372676
There is already a way to interpret data and it sure as hell ain't in social sciences.

>>12372691
Have some more, then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievance_Studies_affair

You can easily find numerous similar cases.

>>12372698
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2017/07/22/predatory-journals-star-wars-sting/#.WXXqmNPys_V
here, look we disproved medical science now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdanov_affair
oh look, there goes theoretical physics too

>>12372717
You can't compare STEM hoaxes with social sciences precisely because you can disprove them with facts. Shit that gets published in social sciences does not differ from "honest" work.

>>12372729
didn't Sokal disprove his own hoax paper with facts? isn't his whole shtick disproving social science with facts? you're too retarded to read Sokal man, don't try and read continental philosophy.

>>12372741
His whole shtick relied on finding quotations from social science hacks like Derrida talking about maths and physics or rather pretending they know what they're talking about and then disproving them, again, because science is based on facts, not wordplay.

>>12364935
Basically Land talks about doing lots of drugs and fucking bitches.

>>12372411
>>12372452
>>12372371

>>12364935
Magickz

>>12372763
>and then disproving them
showing that some magazines didn't hire extra people to make sure other fields were properly represented
which isn't a realistic complain in general, most magazines barely check for typos, it doesn't mean anything.

>>12372763
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair#Media_coverage_and_Jacques_Derrida

>>12370710
But this is comprehensible. Or do you want your philosophy to read like a YA novel?

>>12372851
god i wish that were me

>>12366692
I'm dying

>>12369672
It sounds like you already know but don't want to do the work. Just read it.

>>12365095
>geotrauma
Land was so close but he didn't properly identify it as birth pains.

>>12367097
>becoming-other is becoming-inhuman
grossly solipsistic

>>12369161
I was thinking the exact same thing

Hey there, I see you've decided to make a thread on /lit/. Here's some helpful questions for you to self-evaluate on whether your thread is a piece of shit or not:

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If not - Congratulations, Your thread may possibly be contributing to humanity's total written knowledge of the world. Keep doing what you're doing.

>>12366551
>thesaurus
huh?

>>12373590
how is it solipsistic?

>>12375034
Yikes

>>12367580

i was listening to a land podcast the other day and he mentioned the facebook problem, what is the facebook problem? and why is having a twitter account any different to a facebook one?

>>12375551
the arboreal reterritorialization of the internet

>>12369161
he plagiarizes Burroughs style but maybe it´s the drugs

>>12375551
>what is the facebook problem?

Facebook, and others like it, paralyzed innovation. Twitter is a little different in that it is easier to rout around the constraints imposed from above. Also, these constraints were few until somewhat recently. The character cap also lent itself to more ambiguous, aphoristic, oracular, and prophetic postings which Land delights in.

>Quickly and crudely though, the Cathedral won. In the early 1990s it appeared (however absurdly) to be flaky, confused, and doomed to be ripped apart by the techno-market cyclone epitomized by massively decentralized consumer computing and everything that accompanied it. This ‘illusion’ was strengthened by the fact that the aspect of the Cathedral being encountered (by Metcalf among others) was the despicable ‘cultural studies’ apparatus of half-witted guilt-mongering and rotting marxoid rhetoric, clearly traumatized and intellectually broken beyond repair by (what looked to be) the death throes of the Keynesian order.

>Instead the Cathedral won, the market retreated, technology got stuck … Facebook arrived …

>>12375648
>the despicable ‘cultural studies’ apparatus of half-witted guilt-mongering and rotting marxoid rhetoric, clearly traumatized and intellectually broken beyond repair by (what looked to be) the death throes of the Keynesian order.
based and redpilled

>>12375648
thank you, i had figured as much but just wasnt sure of myself because im a bit of a brainlet on all this

>Unknown Lands: Introduction to Nick Land’s Accelerationist Philosophy

https://mscp.org.au/courses/summer-school-2019

>This course will trace the development of Nick Land’s accelerationist philosophy as it emerges through his critical engagement with canonical figures like Kant, Heidegger, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Freud, Bataille, Deleuze and Guattari, as well as the philosophy of artificial intelligence. More precisely, the course’s guiding thread is that Land’s seemingly contradictory shifts in position are actually motivated by the same underlying goal to critique anthropomorphizations of reality by confronting us with the brute fact of our inexorable death beyond which we cannot trespass. Seen in this way, Land’s various shifts in position do not signal a change in his overarching goal, but in what he sees as the best means to effectuate his critique of anthropocentrism. In particular, we shall see that, while what we will term the “young Land” from 1988-1992 identifies an insurrection against capitalism as the key mechanism for de-anthropomorphizing thought, the “mature Land” from 1993 onwards re-evaluates capitalism’s technological innovation as the best means to critique anthropocentrism by confronting us with the coming artificial superintelligence, which renders our own intelligence radically contingent and finite.

Would you take this class?

>>12375964
Yeah, if only to see who else on my uni browses here.