/lit/ - Literature

From Heidegger and Ellul
to Sterligov and Kaczynski

AGAINST DOMESTICATION


https://www.marxists.org/archive/camatte/agdom.htm

>>12369567
It is as insubstantial as Does God exist? How should one live is the only important question. Ethics and values and seeking the good are above how we should face technological determinism.

somebody needs to make basic bitch bingo for all the kaczynski drones which try and blame technology for being incels

who is to blame for your boring meaningless life of consumerism where you live better than 99.999999999999% of humanity ever has but still complain
>jews
>minority
>women
>society
>technology
>my parents
>religions
>everybody on the whole fucking planet except me

>>12369670
The opposite of an incel isn't a complete human being either. The socialization of society and the inducements of technological biases are a harm to those that have leveraged agency through capital to control the masses. Their control is fixed and imposing within that position because of historical technological changes to our worldview and thought-tools, but is still not completely thwarted. That we need new metaphors for systems that can become actualities is obvious, that capitalism is a system that cannot produce anything but the same ideas is the question Ted should have asked himself. I think this was tried many times in the sixties, rebuilding earthships and hippie cults, but I think what is missed about those attempts is the starting points, the revolutions against technology should be life threatening to the self. And from there you find self destruction and the negation of self, or you find yourself fighting within the game. But not to win control over the game. At the end, Putin or Trump is subject to the realworld consequences of action, but there is no possible frame they can offer except what is in their capacity to do. The will of many is real beyond the media ecology and polls, there are many variables to why someone can't get laid. Why listen to a rutting male whine and then respond? Are you attracted to them? Do you want someone to take care of and nurture?

>>12369823
ted was an incel who broke under pressure and then sat stirring in frustration and anger blaming the world exactly like all the retard incels floating around on the web. autistic, schizophrenic, and all sorts of other mental illness but they pretend they're normal and the whole world is wrong.

if you're a frustrated incel then spend your time thinking about strategies to get sex and methods like learning acting instead of fantasizing about changing the world to get sex. if you can't get sex then you're out of your league pretending you know the utopian system for the world. anybody smart enough to manage the world can learn any skills required to get women easily.

>>12369670
I'm literally a chad, like I point out everytime one of you faggots act like anyone who reads kaczynski is an incel but whatever. I tore a 19yo model pussy on NYE lmao.
You are completely devoid of any cognitive capacity. It's painful to witness. The technological question isn't the most relevant question of our time? hahahaha, just leave you fucking slavoid, you don't want to talk about it? Then get the fuck off this thread. What's your deal pathetic bitter incel lmao? You can't breathe if you see a TK thread? THEN STOP POSTING ABOUT FUCKING INCELS AND SEX AND WHATEVER TAKES UP MOST OF YOUR BRAIN

>>12369896
Yes he was, but I'm not. Ellul was not. Heidegger was not. German Sterligov, literal billionaire, Russia's first billionaire (lmao) who spent decades fucking prostitutes and driving the most expensive cars is one of the staunchest anti-tech activist in the world.

You people are literally rotten to the core. 'incel sex sex money sex' Just kill yourselves you degenerate anglos. I fucking hate anglos with all my heart. Hang your fucking selves so we can discuss technology and not have to swerve in between every fucking post to dodge personal attacks and your shitty opinions.

What's frustrating is that I NEVER see one of you faggots irl. Everytime I bring up the subject of technology you loud mouthed internet shitposters just look at your feet the entire time. Lmao. I wish anglos would evaporate so we could have discussions that aren't about sex incels and how to maximize efficiency in a technological setting.

Billionaire who is against technology. Is he an incel? I doubt, he as like 5 kids.

>but muh kaczynski incel incel incel sexxxx frustration incel terrorist dumb killing is wrong!! moralism moralism moralism effciency technology entrerpreneurship make money make sex

J'aurais tendance à dire que ce putain de forum soit un des pires endroits sur internet mais la vérité c'est que c'est juste pollué à la mort par ces déchèts d'anglos. alhamdulillah il faut s'allier avec le reste du moyen orient pour éliminer ces ordure de la surface de la terre

Bordel, je suis le seul à ne plus en pouvoir de ces moins que rien? Sex race argent. Voilà le crédo de cette race de dégénéré. Ils ne pensent qu'à ça, n'envisage le monde qu'à travers cette trinité. Ils me dégoûtent. J'ai vécu aux us donc fermez vos cul je sais de quoi je parle.

Cette vermine sensationaliste, je suis coupable de poster Kaczynski car je sais qu'ils vont se faire dessus ces moralistes. Je pourrais poster milles autres auteurs mais je préfère me cantonner à TK parcequ'il met ces déchèts mal à l'aise. Qu'un homme puisse ébranler leurs culte du labeur et de l'efficience, et derrière tue une poignée d'innocent c'est juste énorme. Le cauchemar de ces êtres plastiques et superficiels. Mais pourquoi il tue?? c'est pas bien! Dieu a dit fait des tunes, y'a que ça de moral. Moi je lis que des auteurs millionaires, pour être sûr

Ces anglos pensent vraiment taper plus de cul qu'un français? ptdr. ils savent même pas s'habiller, par où peuvent ils commencer? Ils peuvent pas, ils sont obligé de contractualiser toutes leurs relations cf. tinder et toutes ces merdes. Aaaaaaah l'horreur ultime putain. Flinguez moi ces porcs.

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>>12370346
woah. cool you found a billionaire who agrees with you. i guess i'll follow whatever religion he does now too since religion is more important than social views like technology. oh he only has how many billions? i guess i'll follow the house of saudi instead cause they got trillions of dollars and they're pro technology.


funny how you go full mental breakdown arguing about trying to kill people who like technology. if you want to fuck somebody up cause they like technology then go find the nearest person with a smartphone and tell them to stop using it or you're going to kill them. you're clowning yourself

>>12370481
mais ferme ton anus pourri mdr sale abruti putain le full mental breakdown je le carre dans la chatte à ta daronne sale anglo de mon cul, l'autisme c'est la spécialité de tes pays arrièrés du cul m'entraine pas là dedans, je suis juste vénèr, toi et tes potes remballez vos valises et me cassez pas le cul, si tu sais pas ce que c'est de s'énèrver c'est justement parceque t'es rien d'autre qu'une machine dont le but est de maximiser la production. tu sais rien faire d'autre, t'es anti humain sale race
bien sûr que je me clown tout seul MDR tu crois que les français ont aussi peu d'awareness que vous? On sait ce qu'on fait, on sait ce qu'on dit, pas besoin d'une bande d'évangelistes moralisateurs pour valider tous mes faits et gestes
suicide toi avec une boite de paracétamol dans le cul

sucez ma queue putain quand est ce qu'on crée un internet sans les anglos? j'espère que les européens d'ici visitent /lit/ la nuit pour voir l'étendu des dégats. quand la majorité des posteurs est anglo c'est un champs de ruine, c'est dur à voir. ça dépasse l'entendement.

>>12370501
i can't read french but i think you're talking about how to make manage technology? how you manage technology is shoving a dildo up your ass. you and anybody else trying to argue about how to manage technology would be fed into a wood chipper if you ever got in the way of progress and $$$. the people who run the world like technology and people like you and the wacko ted are fed to pigs while they drink wine that cost $100,000

anti-technological are pointless. you might as well start arguing about how everybody has to be equal and we can't use money anymore.

>>12370524
ce degré de soumission implicite de la téléologie anglosaxonne, continue sale porc, histoire que les ignorants comprennent à quel point toi et ta sale race sont délétère à l'humanité. l'ironie bordel, le mec pond un message et met bien en relief tout ce qui va pas chez eux alors que j'ai rien demandé? lol

>>12370524
shut up frustrated incel, you can't get sex. opinion discarded. oh you're not a millionaire? opinion discarded, twice.

>>12370556
>shut up frustrated incel, you can't get sex. opinion discarded. oh you're not a millionaire? opinion discarded, twice.

I've never visited an anglo country. Are they really like this?

>>12370556
my opinion can be disregarded but you still have to deal with all the technocrats and all the people who like technology and would prefer you die instead of them not having a smartphone.

>>12370573
The sex part is just 1/3 of it
Race and money make up the rest

>>12369584
This is something I’ve been concerned about for a while, thanks for posting. Will read.

>>12369670
Why are you people so concerned with material wealth?
His point is not that material wealth isn't greater now, that's obvious. He says explicitly it's more like the situation of a kid playing chess and having a grandmaster over his shoulder who tells him the best move.
The kid ends up making excellent moves and wins his games easily, but by allowing the grandmaster to make his moves for him, or relying on him entirely, he renders the game completely pointless for himself.

>>12369896
*cringe*
yikes!

>>12369670
based and ungrateful pilled
>feelsbad

>>12370346
>I tore a 19yo model pussy on NYE lmao.
pics or didn't happen

>>12370501
les français puent la marde.

>>12369567
All life on earth will end if we constantly increase our energy use. The earth can only dissipate so much heat. we could discover the cleanest, nicest, most perfect energy source and it wouldn't matter. thermodynamics will have the last laugh because all energy use results in waste heat.

>>12370346
You dont sound like a virtous person yourself buddy. Typical materialist, repent for the end is nigh

>>12369567
Technology is magic to retards, evil to slaves, elixir to nerds, a means to masters, and an expression of power to the wise. There is no question concerning it otherwise.

>>12370346
calm down Thad

>>12369577
You forget arguably the most important of them all, Spengler.

>>12369670
>and blame technology for being incels
lmao what kind of redditor astroturfing non-sequitor is this?

>>12370925
What type of wealth are you concerned with? Spiritual wealth? Because I've got news for you, it's because of technology at all that we even have "spirit" as a concept. Without technology, there would have never been the idle time necessary to contemplate, articulate, and record such ideas. And second of all, technology enhances the lives of many people beyond merely their material desires, via art, all of which relies on forms of technology. There would be no art without technology. Even cave drawings employed a form of technology.

>>12373189
>thinks all technology from primitive rocks to computers is just the same tool bro
You've clearly never read any of the big boys. Read Ellul's The Technological Society.

>>12373230
My post didn't imply that I think that at all. However, what determines the value of technology is essentially a constant; see >>12373119

>>12369567

No tech no shoes no shoes no women no women no commas no commas redundant gibberish and madness inevitably follows.
I, have, a, hunch.

sup /lit/ggers, im interested in a specific topic. The topic is a comparison between humans and animals. Im less interested in if humans are superior, and more interested on if humans have some kind of duty to respect the animals, if humans are a superior being.

anything relating to this would be cool, im fishing for book or paper reccomendations, but would also love to just converse about it here.

>>12373434
fuck i thought i was making a thread. im a retard

>>12369670
i'm really into ellul and i have a wife

>>12373119
ok darth sidious

>>12370346
Based and fucking redpilled.

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still pretty good for this thread anon, don't worry

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>>12373459
t. slave

>>12373119
Gay.

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Holy fuck, Abdul had a bit of a meltdown didn't he