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My university is giving a course on Ulysses. I haven't read the Odyssey and my background in literature is pretty shitty. I am a history major and all my personal reading is philosophical, historical, or scientific. Should I take this course? It's at the University of Virginia

>> No.12356550

This is your best chance to be able to appreciate the memes, embrace it

>> No.12356699

>>12356537
Is the course meant for people like you? Idk id try an at least read Odyssey before

>> No.12356712

>>12356537
Ulysses actually has a very particular and interesting historical context, so even if you're not familiar with the odyssey you should still be able to make sense of it.

>>12356550
>implying half the posters memeing Ulysses have even read it

>> No.12356738

>>12356699
I'm going to try, but it starts in 9 days and I am taking a January term course which is 6 hours a day mon-sat + homework until then.. Doubt I will be able to finish it by the first day of class, seeing as I will not even have my copy until Tuesday now.

>>12356712
Apparently the professor is really good, I think I'm just going to take my chances and hope I can get an A. Do you have any recommendations for a primer on the context?

>> No.12356849

>>12356738
If the tutor knows what he's doing then I'm sure it'll be an amazing experience. I took a special author module entirely on Joyce and it was my tutor's final course before retiring, the guy had been teaching it for decades and did a fantastic job.

There's so much secondary reading you could turn to, it depends on what catches your interest. Emer Nolan's book Joyce and Nationalism is a brilliant examination of where to situate Joyce in a context of irish nationalism, and is one I found myself constantly returning to for my assessment.

>> No.12356864

Wtf has ulysses have to do with the odyssey

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>> No.12356897

>>12356849
Thank you, I will check that out!

>> No.12356932

>>12356537
I took a course on Ulysses last year without having read the Odyssey. Don't let that hold you back. You just need a basic familiarity with the story which you can get from summaries. The course will probably assign guidebooks like Blamires and Gifford, who will point out the correlation between episodes and the Odyssey.

I majored in English and it was without doubt the most valuable English course I took during my BA. I probably wouldn't have got around to reading Ulysses for years (let alone understand it) if I hadn't taken it.

Go for it and don't give up on it. Go to class, take notes, read the critical literature and you will enjoy a beautiful and life-changing work of literature.

Here are some books I read to help with my study of Ulysses, you can probably find them in your University's library:

Frank Budgen - James Joyce and the Making of Ulysses
Stuart Gilbert - James Joyce's Ulysses: A Study
(Both personal friends of Joyce who discussed the book with him)

Harold Blamires - The Bloomsday Book: A Guide Through Ulysses
(Great episode-by-episode summary, your course will probably assign this)

>> No.12357017

Despite what the name suggests, there is much more you would want to read than just the Odyssey to take out canonical contexts and references. Try to just enjoy it if you do choose to take the class

>> No.12357842

>>12356537
Hey, your class is being taught by my faculty advisor.

I would advise it, he's a real expert on the subject-I recall him saying he's been teaching it every spring for at least 10 years now.

>> No.12358133

>>12357842
Owo... Wanna be friends?

>> No.12358170

>>12358133
A question before that-
1. Are you a third-year?
2. Does your name start with N?

>> No.12358181

>>12358170
No, I'm a fourth-year and my name starts with a C.

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>>12358170
K den :-{

>> No.12358638

>>12356932
>life-changing work of literature.

What do people even mean when they say this? Always reminds me of this:

What cerebration accompanied his frequentative act?

Concluding by inspection but erroneously that his silent companion was engaged in mental composition he reflected on the pleasures derived from literature of instruction rather than of amusement as he himself had applied to the works of William Shakespeare more than once for the solution of difficult problems in imaginary or real life.

Had he found their solution?

In spite of careful and repeated reading of certain classical passages, aided by a glossary, he had derived imperfect conviction from the text, the answers not bearing in all points.

>> No.12358692

>>12358608
Oops, sorry anon. Went to go buy groceries and forgot entirely.

In that case yeah we can be friends. I'm here over winter break as well.

>> No.12358781

>>12358692
Cool. I just made a discord for a Ulysses reading group in another thread. Would be happy to talk more there :D

https://discord.gg/eCj8m3

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I too had a great experience with a Joyce seminar. We used pic related.

I wouldn't worry too much about "studying up." You're not going to catch every allusion, and that's ok.