/lit/ - Literature

>>12351856
Sometimes

>>12351856
The education system and cultural marxism supressed literature

>>12351856
this is such a wholly dishonest post I don't even know how to answer. yeah I guess it can, but there are certainly things cinema can't do that literature can and vice versa. And with the high budget of cinema it's easy to have low-quality fastfood-tier trash like Marvel and Star Wars movies. don't get me wrong, garbage exists in literature too but there's not nearly as high a barrier of entry for people who have something meaningful to say.

>>12351856
Only Lynch has

>>12351884
>cultural marxism
>I learned sociology and politics from youtube

What a stupid question?

>Has painting surpassed scuplture?
>Has embroidery surpassed calligraphy?
>Has basket-weaving surpassed shitposting?

FLEX YOUR MUSCLES

Tarkovsky talks about it a bit in his book and his general conclusion is that film is still trying to be literary instead of evolving into its own thing. At this point I think film is having trouble finding a direction, the same as literature, and to try and compare the two is a retards game.

The experience of watching a movie and the experience of reading a poem are radically different. They satisfy two different urges in a human. No one of them is going to replace the other.

>>12354263
Is Lynch the exception to that? He hates symbolism and refuses to explain his works because he thinks the point of cinema is that it doesn't require so many words.

Different forms shelter different shapes and stages of life. But of course - our self care will destroy us all so get used to enjoying the look of an empty field at dawn

>>12354286
Which is why inland Empire is the best movie of all time.

>>12351856
>If you do good you'll see me one more time
>If you do bad you'll see me two more times
>never see him again
What did lynch mean by this?

>>12354300
He appears again when it switches to Diane's perspective and then in the background at Adam and Camilla's party.

>>12354300
it means you did good

i, who saw him twice, did bad

>>12352510
smart alec

no, but anime and manga has

>>12354286
That is like a copy paste from Tarkovsky's thoughts about cinema, Lynch is just a posing pseud.

>>12354711

movie like The Master is really fucking good and I'd say on par with some good literature, at least with literature of similar style, in the case of The Master some postmodern novel.
That said, comparing different mediums is extremely silly.

>>12351856
No, this is a dumb question.
>>12354263
Interesting given that Tarkovsky's work seems to be more literary than cinematic, due to his minimal use of cuts. The edit, alongside motion, is what makes cinema what it is.

>>12351856
Yes but now it’s regressed and there hasn’t been a good movie in like 30 years

For me the book and the indie vidro game are the superior medium, mainly because its a personal project and not a "product". Movies by comitee of shareholders killed cinema

>>12354711
>two creatives think about something in a similar way
>"one HAS to be a poser"
Tarkovsky thinks of film as sculpting time, Lynch thinks of film as a moving painting, you don't think because you're all mouth and no trousers

>>12352457
t. pleb

For cinema to surpass film you'd have to make some arbitrary ranking of the art forms in the first place. Good luck with that.

>>12354526
kek

Lynch is probably a top 50-100 american director, and a top 250-500 world director

>>12351856

>>12351856
Yes, but now film is stagnating and soon video games will replace it as the dominant art form.

In a couple of decades film will have regressed into an irrelevant niche medium just like literature has.

>>12356023
perhaps that will happen to high brow movies, but most gaymers drool over capeshit and such, which is exactly why capeshit exists. It isn't like some cheap arthouse underground movie made with a meaning, but simply empty characters with the same cheesy humor, boring villains and a lot of crossovers with the sole purpose of milking the sea of sedated niggercattles

>>12356023
>dominant art form
maybe dominant entertainment form, but never an art form.

>>12352457
lmao

>>12351884
>cultural marxism suppressed literature

It actually expands it...

>>12355859
tarkovsky is pure cinema, you utter mong

>>12351856
Surpassed pulp, but not literature.

>>12356735
Then why does he reject montage, which is a purely cinematic convention?

>>12351856
Cinema is a visual medium; it went completely down the crapper post-silent-era

>>12355859
All of that is just aesthete's problem. You don't get to define cinema.

>>12356787
What is 'cinematic' then, if editing and the movement of images aren't?

>>12355991
"TV" has fuckall to do with cinema as an art form.

Books are more honest because they are the work of a single individual. Sadly humanity is lost in crowds

>>12351856
Cinema, literature, television, newspapers, radio, comics and videogames are all the same thing
If you want to experience something truly different watch a couple dogs fight or the river drag a tree branch or the fruit on a tree slowly mature, fall and rot in the soil

>>12355991
Arousal and aggression are pretty neat
Also Japanese television is even worse than American in those aspects

>>12356830
The great directors were always authoritarian auteurs.

>>12356830
>Sadly humanity is lost in crowds
petals on a wet, black bough.

>>12355991
Kek