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posting to make people mad i replied to a troll post

Dark ages is a myth.

>>12345502
>dark ages
monks keeping manuscripts were the ones actually preserving knowledge

>>12345502
>Scientific Advancement on Y-axis arbitrarily
That graph is dumb

>>12345581
No, that would be Islamic scholars. The Christian world was busy burning classical works that didn't conform to Christian doctrine.

>>12345594
It's not arbitrary it's very clearly labelled.

>>12345612
sources?

>>12345614
Lol, OK. What is the scale.

>>12345617
his ass

the dark age is a myth. it's invented to explain why the "superior european" didn't dominate the world. the "renaissance" is when the technological transfer from the east to the west happened and they finally stopped getting enslaved and btfo by people like the mongols.

any book not talking about the transfer of gunpowder/guns from mongols and europeans using sea piracy to gain resources for their leap is fiction. the west didn't even start developing "their philosophy" until they got translations of indian and chinese stuff

>>12345502

>>12345655
where are the made up words in the legend borrowed from?

>>12345661
'borrowed' from pre-diluvian history you pseud

What a bullshit pic. How the hell do you measure scientific advancement?
Imagine being pseud enough to fall for the "dark ages" enlightenment meme.

>>12345653
>the technological transfer from the east to the west happened
the fuck does this bullshit even mean? the Persians and Chinese brought over Empiricism on crates and sailboats?

>>12345683
>How the hell do you measure scientific advancement?
Um, easily? lol

just look at the technologies, medicines, knowledge etc procured by scientific endeavors.

they are almost entirely absent under christian rule (which is hilarious because they thrived under Muslim so it's not like religion is at fault per se, just the shitty western slave-moralists ones with delusions like immortal souls and turn the other cheek etc)

>>12345502
There was a book on this, but it was in the library of Alexandria

>>12345695
the west was developed with guns, gunpowder, and looting others resources. imperialism isn't through the pen with your wonderful "philosophy" it's through the gun that was transferred from the east along with everything else developed there and then sent to the middle east.

you weren't just eunuch and traded as slaves by muslims you got their ideas, money, and other things

>>12345505
heh....that's a nice start kiddo......
but behold the ascended 12th degree ironymaster who wrote a whole book review to counter this very troll graph
https://strangenotions.com/gods-philosophers/

>>12345713
>which is hilarious because they thrived under Muslim so it's not like religion is at fault per se, just the shitty western slave-moralists ones with delusions like immortal souls and turn the other cheek etc
they struggled just as much under Islam as under Christianity. the only reason the persecution didn't work in the middle east was because of the higher literacy rates.

We're gonna be stuck with the New Atheists until after we're all dead, aren't we?

>>12345803
only if you plan to die within the next couple years. in 30 years irrelevant egalitarian/moralist retards arguing with mental christians about who can be more cucked won't even be thought of by those born

when the west isn't the hegemonic power all the stupid and pointless ideology goes into the garbage with it

>>12345837
Who do you foresee having hegemony? I swear to god if you say China I’m gonna kick your ass

>>12345502
Why does scientific advancement matter if humanity isn't more happier and content?

Depression rates are high, dude.

>>12345876
>the children are sad that their candy got taken away and they aren't unique special things with a god watching their every action
boohoo. life is shit. get used to it.

>>12345719
Which ironically was burned completely for the last time by Islamic "scholars" >>12345612

>>12345502
Secular society has made humanity more depressed and life more boring just for the pursuit of "science".

Is science even worth it if it's most likely going to led to something way worse that will lead to our specie's end like self-learninh A.I?

i'll go through who is not going to be the hegemony
>1 billion christian africans
>1 billion christian south americans
>65% hispanic united north american union (formly usa, canada, and mexico)
>europe
you can figure the rest yourself

>>12345898
I don't discriminate between abrahamoids

>>12345892
If life is shit, what's the point of living?

Why even post here if we can just end it now?

>>12345923
Cringe

>>12345918
forgot the quote >>12345873

>>12345926
Go cut your son's dick off goy

>>12345502
Fetishism of science is going to lead to Humanity's downfall.

Mark my words.

>>12345892
I’m an atheist and I find your dismissal of this disturbing. Suicide rates and general malaise are having a huge effect. You can be mad at daddy on your own time fuckin faggot.

>>12345934
The idea of the Christian God is more similar to Plato's God than this simplified polytheism.
Deus omnipotentum.
To think this stick drawing of a God made in the image of corruptible man invalidates Christianity by association is grave ignorance.

>>12345961
Than why not just be a Platonist? Or a Spinozist? Why do you have to dress up your beliefs with all of the extra bullshit then?

>>12345924
the real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection.

>>12345924
>Bad faith: the post

>>12345620
Power via technological means

>>12346063
those don't gain you access to heaven by living as a coward with inverted morality who worships weakness. you gain access to heaven not by strength, cunning, or ability but by kneeling and professing your eternal slavery and servitude.

your fellow men make a mistake so they're case into eternal damnation suffering forever while you kneel and lick god's toes trying to please him so you don't suffer the same fate

>>12345876
The people who ARE happy are indeed much happier today than the happiest among us in the past, however. So, if we consider not the number of happy people, but the intensity of happiness in the world when measuring the amount of happiness in it, it really is a net positive.

>>12346102
You're worshipping a demiurge, not the Divine advocate and friend. Stop listening to people who benefit from you believing this shit. Go think for yourself

>>12346087
>power comes only from technology

>>12346169
>implications

>>12345502
>only posting a snippet of the graph

>>12345502
You realize that the so called “Dark Ages” were caused by a variety of factors and Christianity had little to do with it? In fact it was pushed hard by the Rome and it’s succesor kingdoms because it actually helped slow the collapse.

The “Dark Ages” were caused more by pagan invasions, plagues and the collapse of world trade routes caused by the Islamic conquest around the Mediterranean. Sage

>>12345502
Go away reddit

>>12345617
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_of_the_Greek_Classics

>>12345649
Read a fucking book once in a while, Jesus Christ.

>>12346585
Is this a real post? In your “Wikipedia Article” LOL it even talks about how it was mostly “Greeks and Egyptians” (IE Christians) who preserved that information.

The Islamic World became more and more irrelevant as the Christian Minorities there dwindled. After the Christian Middle East population dropped below 20% (Early 1900s) the society collapsed completely and went back to the dark ages.

what are the units of scientific advancement??

>>12346637
>he Islamic World became more and more irrelevant as the Christian Minorities there dwindled
you mean since the west finally got an advantage and has been destroying and subverting them constantly since ww1?

you know why people really hate the middle east and islam? because it makes you feel inferior. your origin myth originates from the middle east. there's no german, british, or french in the middle. your written language doesn't stem from the west is originates in the middle east. all western civilization is built on being barbarians and learning from the cradle of civilization. this is why westerners love to see the middle east burn. you're everything is borrowed from the east including your spiritual faith, but the middle east grow past christianity while you just swallowed in it

>>12346637
>he Islamic World became more and more irrelevant as the Christian Minorities there dwindled
you mean since the west finally got an advantage and has been destroying and subverting them constantly since ww1?

you know why people really hate the middle east and islam? because it makes you feel inferior. your origin myth originates from the middle east. there's no german, british, or french in the bible. your written language doesn't stem from the west is originates in the middle east. all western civilization is built on being barbarians and learning from the cradle of civilization. this is why westerners love to see the middle east burn. your everything is borrowed from the east including your spiritual faith, but the middle east grew past christianity while you just wallowed in it.

too tired typing that

>>12346729
inshallah brother

>>12346744
i'm not even muslim. i just thought it was strange how people just absolutely fucking hated the middle east and islam. it's cause an inferiority complex that westerners love to see it burn.

abrahamic religions are all the same shit so why the burning hatred? oh cause there's no mention of europe in the bible but they still have to worship a dead semite on a stick born in the middle east where everybody is a muslim. it really fucks with the mind

>>12346770
hello varg

>>12346637
>Christian Minorities
fucking lol. the innocent wittle Christian minorities were busy being studious little academics in a sea of raging ebil brown people. woe is them :'^(
seriously though the Muslims and Christians both tried to burn books but the Muslims had higher literacy rates so it wasn't as effective, that's why they could protect Greek Philosophy.

>>12345892
Intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor

>>12345681
>Centaurian Expansion
>Finnish-Korean hyper-war
>Destruction of Maldek
I'm sorry what

>>12346729
Na. My problem isn’t with the Middle East. The problem is with the religion and the backwards tribal society from the Arabian Peninsula who wrecked it and continue to hold it back. I would consider Palestinian, Leb and Syrain Christians White to be honest. Even many Copts and and Assyrians are close enough.

>>12346290
What does this mean? Do you actually beleive this?

>>12346647
Between 1-5.

>>12346783
nordicist are worse than people who believe space pyramid rocket magic shit. at least they keep it to egypt while nordicist pretend they created every civilization but somehow their superior nordic ancestors lost against people without civilization and their impotent water sperm couldn't even pass on their genes or impregnate the barbarian women.
>>12346800
>western powers prop up arabic dictators, support the spread of wahhabism, and support terrorist like isis/various freedom fighters killing christians everywhere
>damn those arabs living in the middle east messing up my utopia
westerners fucking hate christians in the middle east and like seeing them die too because they know they're just larpers while the christians in the middle east originate from people who followed the religion seriously since it was created and not western european revised shit.

It's upsetting that I can't tell if OP is serious or not. anymore.

>>12345837
muh WEST

>it's always fucking ameritards who larp this shit

>>12345678

>>12345655
beautiful

>>12345653
>they finally stopped getting enslaved and btfo by people like the mongols
This literally never happened to western Europeans, did happen plenty to the Islamic states though.

>>12345733
I see, the enraged shitskin is at it again.
Here is the thing darky, whites perfected the production and use of almost every invention they traded for. Guns, boats, railways and every single invention in modern history was either created by, and or developed and perfected almost exclusively by Europeans, Caucasoids.
Explain to me how the Renaissance and Enlightenment was not an expression of white brilliance but of Mongoloids by way of stolen Indian texts? Just go back to scrubbing your back porch of shit
>>12345961
This.
>>12345612
And those Islamic "scholars" did what, exactly with those texts?
>>12345502
European civilizations being almost exclusively responsible for the development of mankind says wonders.

>>12345934
the other day when I was rather drunk I saw this image on this board and laughed my ass off for almost an hour.
Just wanted to say that

>>12345502
Kill yourself /pol/ newfag

>>12345502
The Dark Ages weren't actually dark. If you're not planning to read medieval literature then you're only gonna get biased accounts from ignorant people.

g*rman dark ages would be more accurate

>goths and vandals sack Rome
>Huns finish off the empire which is now overrun by g*rman barbarians
>vikings rape and burn across Europe
>Mongols and turks (descendants of the g*rmanic huns) destroy any semblance of civilization in the caliphate and byzantine empire

they tried to send Europe back into the dark ages in the world wars but thankfully they could be stopped. now it's the EU that needs to be dealt with, we must be forever vigilant in the face of this menace

>>12345961
WE

>>12345502
The line should go flat with the Romans.

>>12347543
jeez, did your girl get blacked or something? So much anger

>>12347543
>all the history prior to us being good where we got enslaved and didn't accomplish anything doesn't count
>time started when we did good and i believe the eternity, forever, and the infinite period after the brief 300 years we did well doesn't exist
>our perfect, flawless, and mostest supreme besty system is collapsing in front of my eyes and barely arrived at this point so i'm 100% confident the present we see today is going to be eternal and never change
i can see you plan to be the leader of the 1,000,000,000,000 year forth reich following the 1000 year third reich which lasted 12 human years which are translated to 3,000,000 aeon (read aryan) years. i'm glad your hubris is powerful enough to sustain the world collapsing in front of your face

>>12345502
The "dark ages" myth was actually invented by pr*testants who realized that their heresy needed better PR. Repeating that myth gets you closer to hell, please keep that in mind.

>>12346729
>you know why people really hate the middle east and islam? because it makes you feel inferior
>this muslim cope
Or maybe westerners hate Islam because its adherents like to blow up themselves in their streets and the middle east for being a shithole in general LMAO.

>>12347900
>The "dark ages" myth was actually invented by pr*testants who realized that their heresy needed better PR
???

>>12346815
>he hasn't read the Comentarii on the Destruction of Maldek

>>12346585
You know, on Wikipedia there is, next to the "Article" button, a "Talk" button.
You should click on it sometimes, to understand how the article was written, and maybe see why it is completely shit.

>>12346290
>>12346815
of course thats the true history of our world dude, but theres a problem with that graph, the great emu war (descendants of the Mu race) doesnt shows in there

What about the Finnish Korean hyper war tho ?

>>12347988
>the anon believes

>>12345502
>what would've been if

typical marxist mindset.

>>12345740
The myth is shit, but monks and priests rehashing Aristotle for hundreds of years is not great philosophy

>>12345655
based & hyperboreanpilled

>not having read Spengler
okay this is epic

>>12346063
Most neoplatonists became Christians.

>>12346729

>>12346851
Oh look another autist who has no idea what he’s talking about. A: Baathists were originally aligned with the eastern bloc, and the west has been knocking them off one by one. West in no way supports wahabbism other than an American alliance with the saudi state, and actively tries to shame them for this interpretation of islam. “Supports terrorists like ISIS” You’re retarded. Yeah, fuck the arabs actually. Their entire civilization has comtributed virtually nothing to the world since the caliphates. Were it not for the existence of oil the entire world would ignore these mouth breathing retards, of course the rest of the world would still have to deal with their retarded fan fiction of judaism.

As for the supposed resentment of middle eastern christians, what the fuck are you even talking about? Every christian denomination in the west actively wants to help prevent their genocide. You’re really fucking stupid man, just stop posting. Where the fuck did you even get these ideas from?

>>12346729
Also fuck off Ahmed your prophet fucked a kid

>>12348841
based as fuck

>>12345655
Lol

>>12345655
We have technology at the level of the Centaurian Expansion, that’s not too bad.

>>12347926
>Catholicism has held us back
>join Protestantism; it's the religion of the future
I guess that's what that anon meant.

>>12349241
The beginning of the splintering of Christianity is considered to be the start of the Dark Ages.