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ok /lit/, you've convinced me, ill read it, should I get a guide or something? or does that make me a brainlet?

>> No.12342373

>>12342364
Read it unguided your first time and get from it what you can and then if you ever choose to reread it consider a guide.

>> No.12342393

Can I go straight to that Irish TV/radio reading I have heard is great?

>> No.12342402

>/lit/, you've convinced me
>should I get a guide or something? or does that make me a brainlet?
You're already a brainlet.

>> No.12342427

>>12342364
Idk how you should do it anon, but here's how I did:
>Read a chapter
>Read summary and analysis
>Re-read said chapter if I feel like it
>Finish Ulysses
>Read extra sources
>Wait two years
>Re-read entire book.

Good luck anon, there's a lot of joy to be had from thay book, if you're willing to work for it. I'll probably read it again in a few years.

Oh and just in case: read portrait and the odyssey first!

>> No.12342454

I think its yale that has a modernism wiki with entries for each chapter. I read those after I finished each one. Have fun OP, it's a fucking addicting book if you get into it.

>> No.12342509

If you're in the UK you can pick up the student's annotated version pretty cheap on ebay. Has 250 pages of notes and line numbering etc

>> No.12342546

just read it
it is not a book one will understand after one reading regardless

>> No.12342714

>>12342427
This is how you do it OP.

Figuring out the plot of Ulysses is tiresome and distracting so don't spoil your reading by obsessing over it. Embrace the fact that no one completely understands Ulysses on the first go. And remember it only gets better each time you reread it

>> No.12342771

>>12342364

Get an audiobook read by an irishman to go along with reading it, is my advice. It helps immensely with separating dialogue from stream of consciousness etc

Also, Re:Joyce is a god tier podcast to listen alongside

>> No.12343220

>>12342364
This is the only guidance you'll need for a first reading:
https://modernism.coursepress.yale.edu/ulysses/

Also, don't purchase the Penguin edition in your pic. Buy the Oxford World's Classics 1922 text. Joyceans, justifiably, detest the text in the penguin edition.

>> No.12343235

>>12342402
It's ok to be a brainlet as long as you acknowledge the fact. Or does acknowledging that you are a brainlet make you a midwit? A real brainlet wouldn't even know he was a brainlet, right? It's all very scientific.

>> No.12343242

>>12343220
What's wrong with the penguin text?

>> No.12343246

>>12342364
Read it once without a guide without worrying about getting a lot and then if you liked it read a guide and then read the novel again.

>> No.12343261

>>12343220
Isnt the Penguin edition the same as the 1922 text minus the errors? The Gabler/1984 edition is the one to avoid.

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12343272

>>12343235
Pictured: world's smartest brainlet.

>> No.12343276

>>12342364
Everyone, read this article, it's a fascinating read, related to Ulysses.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/magazine/the-strange-case-of-the-missing-joyce-scholar.html

>> No.12343300

>>12342364
http://rejoyce.libsyn.com

I'm not 100% sure this is complete but it appears to have each episode. This guy breaks down each sentence and spends 20+ minutes per page. I didn't even know that Mulligan was mocking the Latin mass before listening to this, and now I'm well acquainted with Joyce's biography and with the smallest details of the book's references (almost every sentence is a reference).

>> No.12343307

>>12343300
He died before he could finish it unfortunately.

>> No.12343320

Joyce fans: is ir true the current Ulysses editions are a translation from the French edition and not the actual Ulysses that Joyce first published as a serial?

>> No.12343350

>>12343320
No, but because it was published in France the manuscript was typed by French typists. This lead to many errors and an ongoing controversy on textual integrity.

>> No.12343391

>>12343276
amazing

>> No.12343400

>>12343307
How far did he get? I've only listened to the end of Telemachus

>> No.12343434

>>12342373
if you ever choose to reread it consider suicide

>> No.12343722

>>12343434
>plump Buck detected

>> No.12344798

>>12343400
Hopefully he made it to Oxen of the Sun. Would love to hear someone go on about the early parts of that chapter.

>> No.12345083

>>12343242
>>12343261
It's safest to just go with the text that Joyce saw being published.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/magazine/the-strange-case-of-the-missing-joyce-scholar.html