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>tfw NEET drop out
im interested in philosophy, can any of you normies help me on what to read or any book that can help me in the long run or something that expands the knowledge and makes me less of a brainlet

>> No.12337477
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>>12337296

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>>12337477
thanks anon, i cant wait to learn so much

>> No.12337551

>>12337477
this wont get you anywhere and starting with the greeks will take you forever and will be a slog. it is best to jump around.

>> No.12337566

>>12337551
t. retard
>>12337296
Start with geometry.

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>>12337566
>Start with geometry.
what? isn't this /lit/ and not /sci/

>> No.12337602

>>12337551
This is bait. Starting with the greeks is good. Some of the books on that list you should probably skip, like Strauss & West's books, but the list is very solid and a very good starting point.

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>>12337602
so what should i skip exactly

>> No.12339090

>>12337296
John Kaag’s suggestion:
From Socrates to Sartre, T Z Lavine
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

>> No.12339598

>>12337296
read poetry instead

>> No.12339651

>>12337626
You don't have to read all of the Greek plays, histories, and mythology to understand the Pre-Socratics, Plato, and Aristotle, though you may want to look up key terms such as arete, logos, nous, etc to understand their nuances.Reading wiki articles on the myths, the Homeric epics, and the Peloponnesian War should be good enough.

>> No.12340185

>>12337296
Unironically the Complete Works of Plato, start with the Apology

>> No.12340208

>>12340185

this op you will never regret making this crucial decision. if you are a reader and you haven't read all of plato you are missing the foundation of thought everything else rests upon this isnot a meme

>> No.12340226

>>12337296
>frog posting
>using "normies"
>clearly didn't even read the fucking sticky
You're doomed.

>> No.12340819

>>12337296
You don't need philosophy. You just need to be made aware of the life of Diogenes, the dog. A profound transformation will take place in your soul and you'll realize you've found the pinnacle of role models. From then on you will take on the noble pursuit of becoming as close to Diogenes as possible. It's staggering to think that humanity peaked over 2k years ago.

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>>12340226
eat my ass normalfag if you aren't going to help
>>12340819
uhhh...ok
>>12339598
what will that do for me
>>12340185
>>12339090
thx anons

>> No.12341889

>>12341759
>normalfag
Thank you for using the correct word. Some days I wish I was but then realise that'd likely mean having to play the fool to get along with most.
>eat my ass
No thank you.

Look you really should read the sticky and also find the "lit philosophy project". What is it you want out of philosophy anyway?

>> No.12342142

>>12341889
/r9k/ uses normie

>> No.12342146

I wish I could have been a NEET dropout sometimes.

>> No.12342163

>>12342142
/r9k/ is nothing but normalfags, attention whores, and whining teenagers. Those things are not mutually exclusive obviously.

>> No.12342350

>>12342163
/r9k/ is 4chan(nel), which means 4chan(nel) is a normie site

>> No.12342441

Start with Peirce

>> No.12342452

>>12337296
Start with Plato and Confucius.
>>12337477
You really don't need the academic books or the specific editions from this image.

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>>12341889
>What is it you want out of philosophy anyway?
idk. something new to learn since i don't know anything
about it i guess
>Look you really should read the sticky and also find the "lit philosophy project"
yeah but other anons have been telling me to read something else and not to stick with the images like >>12337477 anon provided

>>12342146
why, its not even fun. i feel like hanging myself every passing day
>>12342452
>Start with Plato and Confucius.
does it matter which works of their i start with?

>> No.12343597

just read ayn rand and u know everything you will ever need to know.

>> No.12343602

>>12337477
>asks for philosophy, gets mythology and theology

Get some Epicurus in there, whatever you do

>> No.12343638

It needs to be explicit on any sticky that:
Plato, gay
Socrates, supergayman
T E Lawrence, more like TeeHee Florence
/lit/ is almost entirely gay

>> No.12343704

Read real shit only to become alpha based divinity ubermensch

-Aristotle
-Epicurus
-Stoics
-HERACLITUS
-Pythagoras

For contemporary read Nietzsche, Lacan, Derrida, Foucault, and JUNG

>> No.12343729

>>12343582
>why, its not even fun.
I’m jealous of the time you have. I wish I had more time to put towards artistic pursuits.

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>>12343597
>>12343704
ok ill take those into account
>>12343638
why are they gay
>>12343729
i dont even atually do much with the time that i have anyways sadly

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>>12343704
>Bullshit, the posting.

Honestly, why is /lit/ full of clueless pseuds.

>> No.12343935

>>12343870
Plato and Socrates were gay, you know
Have you ever seen a yellow-bellied sapsucker?
That sort of thing
T E Lawrence was a masochist who died at 100 gay mph

>> No.12344001

>>12343704
>no Deleuze

Not gonna make it.

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>>12341759
don't listen to that diogenes retard. that's like saying you should have joji as a role model.

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>>12343935
i dont know anything about that. my school system was so fucked that they didn't even teach anything about plato or socrates
>>12343924
>pseuds.
what does that mean

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>>12344781
pseudo (fake) like pseudoscience
I should have known Allan Bloom worshipped Plato and Socrates because they’re all gay

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/lit/ won’t admit Plato and Socrates were gay

>> No.12344834

>>12344781
Pseud means pseudointellectual, mr. Dumb Frogposter

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>>12344834
IM NOT DUMB, im just not informed

>> No.12344889

>>12337296
Make sure you read the following things:
>A wide selection of Presocratics & Sophists
>Plato's complete works, starting with the Apology
>Aristotle's complete works, starting with anything that won't scare you off
>Fragments and letters by Epicurus or Lucretius' On the Nature of Things
>Some texts by Epictetus or Marcus Aurelius' Meditations

Not really an expert for the middle ages and what comes after that, but here's additional stuff that you should read:
>Texts by Confucius and Mencius
>The Upanishads and the Bhagavadgita

>> No.12344911

if u wanna read philosophy u should read authors similar to your own philosophy bcs u will understand them best

>> No.12344929

nietzsche is very good

>> No.12344936

>>12344847
You're dumb because you are frogposting, not because you're poorly informed. As for philosophy, I can recommend firstly reading a book on its history like Bertrand Russell's "History of western philosophy", then read Aristotle and Plato

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>>12344911
i dont know any
>>12344936
>You're dumb because you are frogposting, not because you're poorly informed.
suck my 5inch erect dick
> As for philosophy, I can recommend firstly reading a book on its history like Bertrand Russell's "History of western philosophy", then read Aristotle and Plato
ok thx
>>12344889
thanks anon

>> No.12345071

>>12344781
ring ring ring

sorry to hear that fren

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>>12343597
Don't you dare shitpost with my girl in a fucking faggot frog thread