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Can reading too much philosophy and exploring too many strange ideas scar you?

I mean trying to apply unusual or not commonly known thinking and trying to relive what is not real while on the other hand pondering and imagining systems of ideas that are out of what is considered normal in embracing, holistic way. Like abstract philosophical concepts coupled with emotional reliving of such concept to as much as possible depth.

>> No.12330333

>>12330306
yeah it can scar you when you're a philosophy faggot and I beat the shit out of you until you're deformed forever

>> No.12330387
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>>12330333
I want you to deform me anon.

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>>12330387
Stand still.

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>>12330402
Please, anon. I want you.

>> No.12330471

>>12330306
I want to lick her feet.

>> No.12330482

>>12330306
You need to be just the right amount of smart for that. If you're not smart enough you are immune since you won't understand shit and if you're too smart you are probably already scarred and philosophy can actually help you to deal with it.

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>>12330482
Tell me more anon. I want to hear your deeper thoughts on this.

>> No.12330617

>>12330509
Depends entirely on why you explore these ideas. As long as they are some sort of a game or a commodity for you, you're fine. You can still be smart and play with ideas in such a way quite successfully while not applying them to your life, though I'd argue it still constitutes as a sort of stupidity. Anyway as a way to have fun or to propel yourself to some academia position ideas are harmless.
On the other hand, you could have found yourself pondering some questions before you ever acquainted yourself with any philosophy, questions that keep you awake at night but have neither a definitive answer nor any visible influence over your peers, so when you ask anyone else they do not understand at best and laugh at worst. Then you're already deep in this shit and philosophy is your only way out, though it can kill you just as easy as save you at this point. You need to be careful.
Then there's a possibility that everything is fine and great with you but still you feel some longing for truth or beauty, not a necessity but a dream of dazzling happiness. This is where the real danger lies. When you pursue ideas as a dream to reach, caring enough to take them to heart but not enough to realise the gravity of what you do beforehand, your chances of hurting or outright destroying yourself rise exponentially.

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>>12330306
No, but watching too much anime will. This man is only 35.

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>>12330617
If there is a chance you are still here anon. Please write more. All three points are to a degree true. I have done all of them but I never categorized it this way. The game definition is not really much of interest to me. I tried to do such only a few times but very soon I lost interest. Sometimes I tried to confuse people with really basic ideas. Like telling them some things they dont understand that are in the field of psychology and psychodynamic school and then just get along with their answers and just make up answers to them as I go. Other times I pondered what it would be like to live as a solipsist but I was bored soon because I didnt want to really try to delude myself. I believe I once did it with religious beliefs and I fortunately got out of that dead end. It is no good for anything except to test some idea, like an experiment to see results and get data.

The academic route is something I do in my free time now, not even for any real benefit.

I ponder some questions and there are no answers. I merge my systems of thought but there isnt anything. I stopped asking people. Sometimes I tell someone something unusual to see what answer I get and hope I get inspiration but most often than no I dont. I am not the brightest or genius so I mostly dont get into that state to probe anything but I often ask myself things. I also answer myself and sometimes I am satisfied even if I know its not correct if that makes sense. I believe its my lack of intellect and knowledge.

The last thing you said makes sense and is what I was mostly talking about. The longing for some things that you know are not real, they are abstract. They are all constructed ideas and some phenomena that you want so much you cant let go of them. They are a part of you. Even though you know they are not real in a sense like there in external world, they are still real in your head and I dont believe in some dualism. It is all real, the shared and the individual and therefore I wont let go of it. You know you will never achieve it but they exist inside you, like a good waifu.

If you read this, please write more anon.

>> No.12330985

>>12330306
This image is beautiful. Simply superb!

>> No.12331005

>>12330306
>Can reading too much philosophy and exploring too many strange ideas scar you?

Scar you in what sense?

>I mean trying to apply unusual or not commonly known thinking and trying to relive what is not real while on the other hand pondering and imagining systems of ideas that are out of what is considered normal in embracing, holistic way. Like abstract philosophical concepts coupled with emotional reliving of such concept to as much as possible depth.

I don't really understand what you're getting at here.

>> No.12331096

>>12331005
I think OP is perhaps considering the possibility of philosophy disillusioning him with certain things in life and eventually molding him into being an unwelcoming individual, like a psychopath.

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>>12331005
I love you anon. Will you interlock fingers with me? I want you to absorb me as I absorb you. It is my deep desire, melancholic bliss. Please anon. Deform my horizon and I will deform yours.

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>>12331099
>tfw no /lit/ bf to hear sweet, sweet philosophic nothings from

why even life

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>>12331096
You are not wrong but that is not the focus I wanted to present. Please anon, read about psychopathy a bit. It is not what you think it is. Psychopathy is a cluster of personality disorders and many of them are very welcoming individuals, very warm, at least on the surface depending on the disorder and individuality.

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>>12331160
I'm here anon. If you want to, now is the time to ravage me.

>> No.12331201

>>12331166
I worded it wrong, but what I was trying to get at was becoming an individual that is in constant disarray and full of inner conflict

>> No.12331206

>>12330306
Heidegger talks about how becoming authentic can leave you feeling completely isolated from the world

>> No.12331207

>>12331096
>the possibility of philosophy disillusioning him with certain things in life

This is largely the point of philosophy, and its greatest benefit in my opinion, if you use 'disillusion' in its original sense it is synonymous with 'enlighten'.

>> No.12331212

>>12330387
>>12330432
>>12331099
>>12331194
if only you were a cute girl and not a greasy faggot

>> No.12331216

>>12331194
>Deform my horizon and I will deform yours.

How about I deform your colon?

>> No.12331222

I hate these effeminate tee hee anime trap faggot posters.

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>>12331201
You are right although I don't mean instability. It is a stable state. There is always a stable pillar you can construct. There is also a hope in a form of rays of sunshine conquering your inner darkness if times are bad. It can be constructed if you have the required ideas. It is like battling yourself to steer the wheel of your mostly unconscious focus and activity.

>> No.12331229

>>12331207
enlightenment cannot be equated to happiness or being free of conflict , usually when the term "disillusioned" is used it refers to someone full of anxieties based in the conflicting new insight they have on past ideals that they clung too all their life, perhaps you could be disillusioned by something central to you interactions with modern society

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>>12331206
Carl Jung gave me once an idea that deep down, there is sameness. One essence of all of us behind the rubish outside. The true self is just an illusion like a constructed tree that branches your personas.

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>>12331212
Silly anon. There is no way for you to be sure. Just ponder the nature of man and a woman.