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Ascetic literature/philosophy discussion Anonymous Wed Dec 26 23:24:13 2018 No.12293080 [Reply] [Original]

why don't you live an ascetic life? Have you not realized that the pursuit of knowledge is the only noble path in life?

>>	« ƸЖƷ » Wed Dec 26 23:25:18 2018 No.12293084 >>12293080 Start with Epicurus

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 26 23:27:00 2018 No.12293088 >>12293084 >butterfly thread is ruined, sorry op

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 26 23:28:09 2018 No.12293091 >>12293080 I skip meals to buy books, am I doing it right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 26 23:31:21 2018 No.12293105 >>12293080 Sex and drugs feel better

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 26 23:56:56 2018 No.12293174 >>12293091 No. You could be pirating books instead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 00:01:54 2018 No.12293187 >>12293084 my dick needs sucking bitch

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 02:08:03 2018 No.12293598 Knowledge is knowing that there is more to life than knowledge. Why know everything when you would experience nothing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 02:27:26 2018 No.12293654 File: 40 KB, 640x387, 29D7FACF-70AE-45A3-A05D-E151CBED5E49.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12293084 Fuck off, tripfaggot scum.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 02:38:28 2018 No.12293682 >>12293084 Nigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 03:05:39 2018 No.12293768 >>12293084 What's your address? I know a few ISIS members who would like to meet you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 03:07:51 2018 No.12293777 >>12293598 Plato proved that knowledge is more real than experience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 03:21:21 2018 No.12293824 >>12293777 based opinion and holy trips

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 03:30:09 2018 No.12293849 I take cold showers, sleep without a pillow, fast 3 times a week and don't fap or watch porn. Can I call myself an ascetic yet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 03:35:41 2018 No.12293865 File: 1.64 MB, 1451x1262, 1544343678497.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12293849

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 03:37:51 2018 No.12293871 >>12293865 I'm going to be complety honest with you. This image casts a BIG net. It's only about 30% relevant to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 03:40:53 2018 No.12293883 >>12293871 *completely

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 03:50:44 2018 No.12293905 >>12293865 Dank and epic maymay XD!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 12:02:24 2018 No.12295286 Asceticism means Rationally humiliating your desires, not the formality of merely abstaining.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 12:12:10 2018 No.12295332 Read the Ladder of Divine Ascent by St. John Climacus. It's literally an instruction manual of monasticism

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 12:24:22 2018 No.12295379 >>12293080 Asceticism is Stoicism for cowards

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 12:24:36 2018 No.12295381 >>12293084 Fuck off and die

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 12:42:54 2018 No.12295441 >>12295379 Stoics were ascetic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 13:02:16 2018 No.12295539 >>12295441 Source? While the stoics had elements of asceticism, they were not ascetics. You cannot call yourself an ascetic unless you shun all pleasures.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 13:23:33 2018 No.12295635 I am an ascetic in all things except alcoholism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 13:24:17 2018 No.12295639 >>12293777 how tho? can you explain in like 3-5 sentences pls (no hyphens allowed)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 13:35:30 2018 No.12295695 >>12293654 Lol do you even know what a tripfag is

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 13:38:20 2018 No.12295707 >Broke up with girlfriend to flee from worldly pleasures >Wakes up with a raging boner the last month thinking about doing her doggy Still maintaining my practice, hopefully this shall pass

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 13:56:07 2018 No.12295805 >>12293105 Augustine disagrees.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 13:57:26 2018 No.12295809 >>12295707 Failure begins with a single thought. You are reinforcing its occurrence by thinking of it every single morning. Get the hell up, immediately. If it is your dream, take something like baclofen to prevent dreaming.

Anonymous Thu Dec 27 14:16:45 2018 No.12295886

>>12295441
seneca was the richest man in rome (after emperor nero), but he continued to live modestly. he once barely survived a shipwreck. stoicism is not antiwealth. it is against you getting controlled by material stuff. if seneca suddenly lost all his material wealth and fortune he wouldnt even flinch

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 14:23:29 2018 No.12295919 START WITH THE CHRISTIAN MYSTICS TERESA OF AVILA JACOB BOEHME O HILDEGARD OF BINGEN NEE O FRANCISCANS THOMAS BROWNE H ECKHART CLOUD OF UNKNOWING R O SIMONE WEIL S

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 14:58:45 2018 No.12296088 >>12293084 this faggot again

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 15:05:03 2018 No.12296120 >>12293849 Very good anon, especially if you lost the internet

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 16:34:37 2018 No.12296537 >>12293865 What's the name of the album left to the TopRamen?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 18:33:13 2018 No.12297144 >>12295441 Ascetics were stoic.

Anonymous Thu Dec 27 18:52:45 2018 No.12297236
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What about ascetic writing?

>a woman rose to ask [Robert Graves] a question. Did he, she wondered, write his poems on the typewriter? It seemed a silly, trivial question in the circumstances, but Graves treated it very seriously. ''No, madam,'' he replied, ''I have never learned to use a typewriter, and I have warned my daughters against learning to use this machine. I do not, as a matter of fact, favor a fountain pen, either. I use the old steel nib that has to be dipped in a pot of ink, and I find that a good nib takes me nicely through 4,000 pages of manuscript before it has to be changed.''

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 22:10:18 2018 No.12298010 File: 137 KB, 218x221, mfw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12293088 >>12293187 >>12293654 >>12293682 >>12296088 why do people dislike named people?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 22:35:47 2018 No.12298121 >>12293084 Fuck this guy is so annoying, when will you go away?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 22:39:08 2018 No.12298128 >>12298010 it's a chan tradition. namefags know this and do it anyways.

I am so unique Thu Dec 27 22:46:27 2018 No.12298147

>>12298010
Because what makes 4chan nice is that everyone is anonymous, so noone has anything to proof and so people go for the ball - not the person.
This butterfly gets their dick in the way by tripping and thus devolves the culture into some egocentric Reddit tear karma dynamic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 22:52:43 2018 No.12298175 >>12298147 stop name fagging tho https://youtube.com/watch?v=YO_xh7xIabk

>>	« ƸЖƷ » Thu Dec 27 22:55:17 2018 No.12298186 >>12298147 It isn’t nice. It’s alienating and only encourages bad behavior. Lit was best when there were personalities, no the nasty bucket of sludge that every other board has

>>	I am so unique Thu Dec 27 23:13:57 2018 No.12298263 >>12298175 Shit, I didn't realize I where namefagging - only did it as a jest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 27 23:15:17 2018 No.12298269 File: 22 KB, 474x646, 205e9e89592f0603a38ead46aa99f5e3--actors-male-grown-women.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12298186 i agree

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 07:50:07 2018 No.12299757 >nobody just filters namefags

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 10:05:29 2018 No.12300202 File: 657 KB, 1181x788, into great silence.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bumping to ask what is your favorite Merton book? If you could only buy one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 10:11:36 2018 No.12300225 >>12293084 I don't like you or your posts but whenever I see you I get nostalgic since you're one of the few connections to old /lit/ still around so I guess in a way I do like you butterfly. keep it up :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 10:12:34 2018 No.12300227 >>12298186 Personalities don't need a name attached to exist and contribute. In fact if they're incapable of browsing here without a name they're probably only posting to serve their online persona.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 10:20:20 2018 No.12300252 While material wealth is ultimately indifferent to my happiness, it is preferred because it can be used towards a good end. I don't see any reason to intentionally forgo that wealth or why that in itself would contribute to my happiness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 10:25:08 2018 No.12300264 >>12293084 You are correct

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 13:16:09 2018 No.12300919 >>12295441 No they weren't. Marcus Aurelius was a damn emperor for Christ's sake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 14:30:18 2018 No.12301268 >>12293080 Noble? Ascetic? What a miserable confusion of terms. What beckons you to this pursuit of nothingness, or in harsher terms, absolute mediocrity?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 14:33:27 2018 No.12301286 >>12300252 The material is not eschewed without purpose, it is generally done as a means to connect with the Absolute and to further soul purification. However, without understanding these realities, asceticism is more or less useless.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 14:35:24 2018 No.12301300 >>12300202 i started reading the seven storey mountain but it was boring

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 17:08:28 2018 No.12302075 >>12300202 Somebody answear this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 20:12:40 2018 No.12303013 >>12300227 This

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 20:16:09 2018 No.12303034 >>12300227 this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 20:18:20 2018 No.12303048 >>12303013 >>12303034 This

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 20:42:20 2018 No.12303160 >>12295379 Actually, Stoicism is Cynicism for soft decadents and the Cynics were ascetics.

Anonymous Fri Dec 28 20:43:44 2018 No.12303171
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This particular rise of asceticism in this sphere is nothing more than a blind reaction to hedonism and will quickly lead to spiritual burn-out for the few who manage to live it instead of just talk about it, and nothing more than minor guilt for the vast majority of you for lack of dedication. It is a necessary step of the process of spiritual maturation, but I tell you this because when you inevitably find yourself dissatisfied with asceticism, have the wisdom to stop the pendulum. Quiet your soul, walk the Middle Path.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 20:44:14 2018 No.12303173 >>12302075 I might just take the bullet and report back desu.

Anonymous Fri Dec 28 20:46:58 2018 No.12303185

>>12303171
asceticism is good because it leads people best to detach from irelevant material things and get a better perspective on how shitty our society and thigns we take for granted are, enable us to detach from all of it
so dont convince people away from doing a good change even if for wrong reasons

Anonymous Fri Dec 28 21:19:22 2018 No.12303390

>>12303171
Buddha's middle way may have been mild compared to the extreme self-mutilation that Indian sadhus get up to but it is asceticism by contemporary Western standards. Living in the woods wearing rags and begging one meagre meal a day from peasants while you spend your life meditating and celibate is not most people's idea of moderation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 28 23:58:19 2018 No.12304097 bump for curiosity

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 29 02:27:01 2018 No.12304577 I live an aesthetic life except for my opiate addiction

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